Is Zero on Sara's Side?

aya-chan wrote:In chapter 78, according to chinese raws:

>>> sara called zero a weapon, and everything is okay if she will get her weapon

>>>kaien asked zero who spread the blood tablets in cross acedemy, a flashback of sara went through his mind but he kept silent.

>>>Moreover he said to kaien they should have purebloods by themself who can be advantageous to them and he - zero - likes the idea to have purebloods inside cross academy.

>>>Moreover, zero told yuuki he won't let her do anything to sara.

Moreover he said to kaien they should have purebloods by themself who can be advantageous to them

mariakuran wrote:But really, i dont think zero is a weapon, i think he is a distraccion, becuase, really kaname is a pure blood and zero (Im not sure) but i think he is a level-E, so you see the diferent, kaname is more strong than zero, and smart, zero think unconsciously!!! so like i tell you he is a distraccion, so Sarah can "Kill" or finish her plan!!!!

mariangie wrote:

mariakuran wrote:But really, i dont think zero is a weapon, i think he is a distraccion, becuase, really kaname is a pure blood and zero (Im not sure) but i think he is a level-E, so you see the diferent, kaname is more strong than zero, and smart, zero think unconsciously!!! so like i tell you he is a distraccion, so Sarah can "Kill" or finish her plan!!!!

Sorry to disagree . Zero is indeed a weapon . " A VAMPIRE KNIGHT IS A WEAPON . " The issue here is for who that weapon is working . At the first arc it was obvious his duty was to protect Yuuki . Because of many reasons . Including his romantic love to her . But now Sara wanted that same power to aid her to get rid of Kaname . Kaname is the main impediment to prevent her becoming Vampire Queen . Sara needs a weapon = strong vampire hunter who can use anti - vampire weapons at her side to help in her plans . As Zero didn't help her with her charms . She used a more strong Ace in her sleeve . Knowing a lot of Kaname's past because Takuman told her . Using that information to favor her and getting what she wanted .

Zero is not a distraction . He is a very important part of Sara's plan to become Vampire Queen . The raw power she lacks .



Another detail here . Zero is not a Level E yet . For now is a Level D who apparently is temporary stabilized . But there are signals of Zero could fall to Level E in a near future . He is in need of blood and not getting it soon enough . Losing control for small periods of time . Even Maria noticed Zero needing to drink blood .

SassyKnight wrote:I don't think he is on her side exactly, I believe he wants her alive for more information about his family's death 5 years ago. Zero has a reason to act that way and I think he's just desperate for answers...Zero might perhaps protect Sara from being killed...

lililovelilica wrote:Sara is finaly playing the game in a weird way...
so it's true that she got to take the "gun guy" with her!
That's zero trying to protect her from kaname!
and yuuki also said that she's gonna protect sara
so WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THIS STORY?!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Sara is finaly playing the game in a weird way...
so it's true that she got to take the "gun guy" with her!
That's zero trying to protect her from kaname!
and yuuki also said that she's gonna protect sara
so WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THIS STORY?!

No yuuki is not going to protect sara!!! KanameYuki is going to kicks her fat ass!!!!

lililovelilica wrote:Sara is finaly playing the game in a weird way...
so it's true that she got to take the "gun guy" with her!
That's zero trying to protect her from kaname!
and yuuki also said that she's gonna protect sara
so WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THIS STORY?!

juliet wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Sara is finaly playing the game in a weird way...
so it's true that she got to take the "gun guy" with her!
That's zero trying to protect her from kaname!
and yuuki also said that she's gonna protect sara
so WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THIS STORY?!

Good question! I understand Yuuki because she is literally in the story mode of peaceful co-existence and does not wish a bloodshed for no side, now about Zero his attitude has changed a lot since Sara approached him with that "secret". If he kills Kaname for her, she will have certainty concluded her scope as Yuuki is an easy then target that can be manipulated> more than this, if Yuuki takes Kaname's side on this, she is also risking to become a target for Zero who will act as Sara's puppet. THe only thing that comforts me is that i am certain that Sara's plan can not reach its success and that balance one way or another shall be restored.

After all if Zero here just acts as her pawn, then Kaname at the other side has not made his move yet...if Kaname's plan has predicted all of these, then it is Zero in a difficult position and not Kaname because he shall be used in order to backfire.

But I shall leave this predictions for later, I think that the main question now is if he is a pawn > another puppet that as Sara claims he is at the same level of Takuma or if he plays his own game here and we are underestimating his intentions and scopes...

does he play chess or is he played around?

lililovelilica wrote:KAname is too cool to kill sara
i think he's waiting for the moment to take action and finish his plans
AFTER that he'll spend eternity by Yuuki's side!
that's what his plan is
because he said to yuuki before
-"if you are a good girl and wait for me i'll come to you and do what you want!"
Kya
what a thing to say
is he okay with marriage?
i would marry him in a flash
he's the best guy i'd wish for!
he's clinging,lonely(wants to be loved),and charming,caring,rich and beauttiful,what do you want more yuuki?
ps:Zero's just pretending to defend sara after that he'll kill her!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:KAname is too cool to kill sara
i think he's waiting for the moment to take action and finish his plans
AFTER that he'll spend eternity by Yuuki's side!
that's what his plan is
because he said to yuuki before
-"if you are a good girl and wait for me i'll come to you and do what you want!"
Kya
what a thing to say
is he okay with marriage?
i would marry him in a flash
he's the best guy i'd wish for!
he's clinging,lonely(wants to be loved),and charming,caring,rich and beauttiful,what do you want more yuuki?
ps:Zero's just pretending to defend sara after that he'll kill her!

You are so damn right!!! I alway thinking the same that you w/ that phrase!!! Kaname is saying that believe in him( with no ask anything:23emu: )and waiting for him(I will do that for him!) and he want to she stay home!!! But really?!? Yuki stay in home!!! Please she is like a kid!!!
Well kanamae your are the best!!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:KAname is too cool to kill sara
i think he's waiting for the moment to take action and finish his plans
AFTER that he'll spend eternity by Yuuki's side!
that's what his plan is
because he said to yuuki before
-"if you are a good girl and wait for me i'll come to you and do what you want!"
Kya
what a thing to say
is he okay with marriage?
i would marry him in a flash
he's the best guy i'd wish for!
he's clinging,lonely(wants to be loved),and charming,caring,rich and beauttiful,what do you want more yuuki?
ps:Zero's just pretending to defend sara after that he'll kill her!

Yeah so cruel!!! Yuki tried to be a good lover or your not deserve kaname. and then I'm going to take with me!!

You are so damn right!!! I alway thinking the same that you w/ that phrase!!! Kaname is saying that believe in him( with no ask anything:23emu: )and waiting for him(I will do that for him!) and he want to she stay home!!! But really?!? Yuki stay in home!!! Please she is like a kid!!!
Well kanamae your are the best!!!!

she's not home anymore you see
she went to cross gakuen
ps:when kaname went to his mansion she was not there waiting for him(how cruel of her)
and the rose he gave her was in the house,maybe she forgot?

SassyKnight wrote:I think Zero is on Sara's side for now...I think he wants answers so he'll probably protect her for the time being...But IMO I think what Sara said COULD be true.

Firstly, Ichiru led Shizuka to his home (stated in the Fanbook) and even though he said "Did you suffer having your fate twisted by Shizuka Sama?" It doesn't mean that he DID ask Shizuka turn Zero, because it didn't even say that...Well I might be wrong but that's just how I see it..

BTW guys, I don't see why some of you keep lowering my Rep...I'm not bashing or anything I'm just saying what I believe...

Juliet wrote: I think that the main question now is if he is a pawn > another puppet that as Sara claims he is at the same level of Takuma or if he plays his own game here and we are underestimating his intentions and scopes...

does he play chess or is he played around?

Anneliezz wrote: I don't think I ment you on that comment xD I quickly went to the prvious posts, and I read it somewhere in a post?. It was just my point that Zero suddenly revealing what he 'knows' was no deliberate move. Yuuki saying that Kaname was innnocent after all (or something like that) must've been the last drop (I don't even know if this expression is used in english, but you know what I mean?). I think sometimes we (we all) seek to much (like motives) behind simple emotional reactions. These are all humans (or vampires but you get the point ), not Robots.

That's why I said we don't need to put him into a corner with Sara. Like everyoneone said it is totally against his values. But if he feels like he might only get the truth form her, then he will want to at least protect his information source. For example to win time.

Anyways getting his source killed, would be unfurtunate.

Hmm, I see for the murder of his parents Yagari would know more.but.. Kaien could possibly know more from K.(Like the situation with Yuuki, Kaien knew about it). Indeed he trusts Yagari, but that's why he wouldn't ask. Yagari would never hold back any information like that. While Kaien has already done that. The difference is that that time it was for Yuuki's best interest...But then again he never really trusted Kaien when it came to vampire matters.

Sarah seems to have told him K had everything to do with his family, so it's not weird for Zero to ask If Kaien knew about Kaname's plans, like he knew about his plans with Yuuki.

nina wrote:The quotes are from this thread >> https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1079p50-vampire-knight-chapter-78-full-raws-first-translation#24453

Juliet wrote: I think that the main question now is if he is a pawn > another puppet that as Sara claims he is at the same level of Takuma or if he plays his own game here and we are underestimating his intentions and scopes...

does he play chess or is he played around?

I hardly can see Zero playing chess, at least he never shown to have such trait as character. Moreover his reaction towards Yuuki and his wordings –for me at least- it is way too emotional and intense thus inconsistent with someone who’s thinking strategically and self-possessedly. >>

Anneliezz wrote: I don't think I ment you on that comment xD I quickly went to the prvious posts, and I read it somewhere in a post?. It was just my point that Zero suddenly revealing what he 'knows' was no deliberate move. Yuuki saying that Kaname was innnocent after all (or something like that) must've been the last drop (I don't even know if this expression is used in english, but you know what I mean?). I think sometimes we (we all) seek to much (like motives) behind simple emotional reactions. These are all humans (or vampires but you get the point ), not Robots.

Okay then sorry if I misunderstood.
So we agree …
I count his reaction more of an impulse driven from mixed and intense suppressed feelings rather as a well calculated move to serve a plan there. And while this estimation doesn’t rule out the possibility to have acted this way because he can’t stand Yuuki defending Kaname and want to go to him –thus and badmouthing him- it does limit the explanation that he is protecting her as a source for more info. >>

That's why I said we don't need to put him into a corner with Sara. Like everyoneone said it is totally against his values. But if he feels like he might only get the truth form her, then he will want to at least protect his information source. For example to win time.

I do not believe either that he suddenly loved Sara of course. But I think that he fully believed her thus placed himself into her web. If Zero had doubts for what Sara told him or a plan to counter her IMO he wouldn’t badmouth Kaname especially to Yuuki. Although we know his personal biased opinion for Kaname I find it difficult to degrade him in front of her moreover since Yuuki didn’t express the intention to kill Sara.
I mean in case that he wanted to protect the source for more info as you supported, why he went to such extents? Was Sara running any danger to be killed from Yuuki at that moment? Why such rush and determination to protect Sara right there? Why he treated roughly Hanadagi’s guard ignoring her testimony?

Anyways getting his source killed, would be unfurtunate.

Didn’t Yuuki say that she’ll stop Kaname? If Yuuki stops Kaname wouldn’t that serve Zero’s interest IF his interest is to protect Sara only in order to gain more time and info? If that was his motive then he should have let Yuuki to stop Kaname cuz their interests coincide.


His wording “I won’t let you lay your hands on that woman …” !!!! and
“That man … Kaname Kuran … every single one of his cells, the entirety of his existence, is nothing but filth!” IMO are very strong and emotional to indicate only his attempt to protect a source. And how by saying that Kaname is filthy protecting Sara? When he said that Kaname hadn’t appeared yet!?

Additional if his only intention was to protect only Sara=source why he said to Kaien>>

Zero: “…I just wish we had more purebloods like this who serve our interest.”

He wished to have more PBs to serve their interests?!!!! What this could have to do with his intention to protect ONLY Sara for the time being at least?

I think Yuuki’s words together with Zero’s statements nailed your estimation about Zero’s motive.

Furthermore Sara seems pretty confident that she gained the weapon aka Zero that she was seeking for long and that he shall fall as Takuma. Her words leading me to the thought that Zero believed her and thus possibly he’ll drink from her in the near future something that will bond him further and bring him on the same position as Takuma, if not even worse cuz Takuma knows her deceptions and he has self-awareness of the position that he is in to.

Hmm, I see for the murder of his parents Yagari would know more.but.. Kaien could possibly know more from K.(Like the situation with Yuuki, Kaien knew about it). Indeed he trusts Yagari, but that's why he wouldn't ask. Yagari would never hold back any information like that. While Kaien has already done that. The difference is that that time it was for Yuuki's best interest...But then again he never really trusted Kaien when it came to vampire matters.

I hardly can believe that Kaien would cover Kaname’s involvement into Zero’s parents’ murder. The fact that Kaien hid from Zero Yuuki’s true nature has a totally different gravity to be compared. Moreover, didn’t Kaien hide Zero’s vampirism from Yuuki and on expense of her? Zero has no right to mistrust Kaien based on this in the first place. And if that is his rational then in my eyes he is irrational.
Furthermore –maybe it’s me- but this speculation seems contradictory …
He goes to Kaien who doesn’t trust to ask about Kaname’s plan? And why trusting what Kaien would have to say since he doesn’t trust him; especially concerning Kaname’s affairs?

Sarah seems to have told him K had everything to do with his family, so it's not weird for Zero to ask If Kaien knew about Kaname's plans, like he knew about his plans with Yuuki.

For me it is weird! I’ll repeat myself … what connection can have Kaname’s current or future moves with the death of his parents??? Asking for Kaname’s current plan for a matter that happened 5 years ago and it is over!?

If you have any idea I would gladly hear it cuz frankly I can’t think any connection right now.