In short he says that despite she did her job –devouring one more PB – still he can’t let her live any longer.
Ι agree that it makes more sense and also that changes the meaning of his phrase from actually approving her ways and just being no more use to him to disapproval or resentment of her actions despite if this is a thing he may also wishes.
It fits better and that’s a line that Kaname has used before but we have to wait for a clearer Japanese translation to confirm it.
i may have to dissagre with you here if you look back to chapter 71 kaname was killing and eating a pure blood so it was sara saying kaname smelled
But could be regarding Ouri? I think that the reference on the smell pinpoints more to a recent death.
Yes that was chapter 71 (where Kaname eats Hio, I suppose) and chapter 55-56? At the ball where Sara eats Ouri…
So irrelevantly of who says the above lines, both crimes are actually far behind don’t you think?
And ever since there we have no clues or evidence that another pureblood has been harmed. Sara is less suspicious than Kaname because a) she can not leave the academy and b) she can not use anti-vampire weapon.
But Kaname also killing another pureblood out of the blue (Hino at least show us Hio why not this crime also)?
Therefore I was suggesting that perhaps it’s a more of a metaphorical use like “you made it up to this point but I know your crimes”…like Sara had said to Zero that he smells like the Kurans, and was taunting him with his notion and we know that a year had passed ever since Zero had gotten any blood.
But let’s be patient, I do not want to jump into conclusions about any crimes yet because there are not and so many purebloods left (Isaya? Who else is introduced to us but I highly doubt it).
If his plan is to annihilate all the PBs; but he needs help as he said to Sara why not collaborate with the hunters? Isn’t that what they want?
And I mean at least in secret … the hunters could lend him a hand and he could have taken the blame as he did with Sara.
Good point, well they might give him a hand towards the end, LOL. Its so strange though, I’ve been thinking that the weapons (Artemis and Bloody Rose) are reflecting the ancestors feelings of hate;
“These weapons are only thinking of merely slaughtering vampires” , Kaname, chapter 64.
And the hunters also;
“You will seek bloodshed just as we have, from a hateful instinct”.
“And blood that runs through our body whispers NOT to forgive the vampires for their inhumanity”, Zero, chapter 64.
And that’s the ancestor’s blood running through the hunters body as Zero says and these are the feelings that it promotes; hateful instict, no forgiveness, slaughtering vampires.
And getting back to the original task that the ancestor had placed at Kaname’s hands in exchange for the power that she had lend him during being weak her words were;
“The only way to stop more servants from being created is to destroy the source. I do not relish destroying our kind after I searched them out. I am sorry I am asking you to do such an unpleasant job, forgive me Kaname”, the ancestor, official viz media translation volume 13”.
Therefore from the above we can say that the first hunters and Kaname as an ancestor came upon with a task and an obligation to exterminate the purebloods that shall change humans. Now reading the volumes there is this observation from Yuuki that we also had questioned speaking about purebloods;
Yuuki:“Purebloods …we don’t die…so there should be a lot of our kind…I”
Kaname: “if we include the ones taking a long rest, there were 33 purebloods in all…but the numbers have decreased since then…
Yuuki: “but they are too few…did the purebloods want to end their lives like Ouri-Sama?”
In the continuation of their conversation Yuuki doubts Ouri’s desire to commit a suicide as this was provided as an official explanation. Then Kaname trying to provide an answer talks about his grandfather. At that time it seemed totally irrelevant, at this point we know that Kaname switched the subject because that was the true answer to Yuuki’s question about the purebloods and also in an indirect way for Ouri;
Kaname: “My grandfather once became the leader of the purebloods…He was the King of vampires. Yes…He did it to stop the fighting. A large number of purebloods died during that battle…” Viz official translation, volume12.
The lady ancestor provides the answer at volume 13…
“More than half our members…are already thinking about turning every human into one of our own..”
So that means that at that time, the first war, Kaname and the hunters killed more than half of the first purebloods that existed…and the party went on…
Kaname: “ And once again, the quarrel was repeated several times. One less person. One less person again. During that time, when our existence disappeared from the face of human history-“
In few words I think that Kaname (and a truth about his past that he was so much afraid of revealing) is a killing machine (and not the gentle vampire that Yuuki pictured) or in more bright colors (since he fought the good fight as Coelo would say (LOL) the real vampire knight that actually fought many wars, not one, took many lives with him but also saved humanity and finally made it to accommodate enough power and respect in order to stop the wars and make his enemies quit from their desire to change humans.
Perhaps the ones that did not like it but quit in time to save their lives followed a long slumber? Who knows? After all, it is also Kaname that says that many purebloods lost their will to live any longer and it is also Sara the one that says that if she follows the subtle life of the Kurans and does not give into her instincts, she would be losing her will to live (so who knows? That’s only an observation)…
Also that brings me back to your question and to Sara’s words at the current chapter;
so what war, what conflicts? We haven’t seen any lol.
And also isn’t she the one who wanted to start a war? “
Now reading all the above extracts I think that we are in full understanding of that big war that Sara mentions…in few words her tablets and her preparations whatever they are, set the stage for another war to repeat... and her words to Kaname at this point seem to me as a warning, a last act of warning to him;
that if you agree, we still can avoid repeating the slaughtering of the past ( she refers to purebloods fighting, because that was the big war about ) and still be able to dominate the rest of the races with a more subtle and innocent looking way (since she has the tablets).
In a funny way it reminds me what the mean guys propose at the good ones when they face them; "Hey Kaname, don't be fool, we have anti-vampire, tablets, harem, Takuma, now Shiki joined too, we are a familly, take the Crown, I shall be the Queen, leave Yuuki to its baby sitter (yes that's Zero), and join the party...
sorry could not resist, that sounds tempting though, if she meant that, LOL...
hm, hm, anyway...
“I’d say that this rule was not set in our interest at all >> Sara reveals again what’s the core and the spot friction between Kaname (and the Kurans) with the rest of the PBs. This rule is the root and one of the reasons of why ALL the Kurans are opponents of the PBs. And we know pretty well that Sara has deliberately broken that rule.
And here I refer your post as additional sources of how provocative Sara is and how even Aido-dono estimates that’s breaking the rules will eventually lead to a war among purebloods. And that’s a fact I think…
Sara’s speech about the breaking of the agreement and her army >>
> And Aido-dono had also mentioned about conflicts, to Sara at Hanadagi’s castle>>
Let’s not forget that while purebloods are actually playing their war games, they are taking down with them numerous of victims, we have seen that before with Shizuka and Rido.
Now back on my speculations … IMO Sara is trying to re-create the same conditions that led Kaname’s wife in the past to death. Conditions that perhaps are related to that rule as well.
Therefore Kaname is trying to destroy these conditions reversing the old outcome. And IF Yuuki was his past wife then it could be also a “fight” with the time before Yuuki “retrieves” that sealed past of hers.
Perhaps, a further estimation that i have is that Sara does not really want a war; she wishes to be acknowledged as a Queen before reaching the point of an open war since she has the weapons that can take her there and she wants to use them or she intends an open war but only as a last resort (and therefore she has also set the stage for that) at least it would be expected from her to try to avoid it as much as possible... Kaname does need an open war though.
And IMO that’s the part in which he does not want Yuuki to stop him.
And Aido-dono should also know about his plan or he must knew at least a certain part of him would give in to Sara's challenge and therefore Aido-dono was wondering how Yuuki would be in any position to stop him. That would also explain why he later on from Sara not to initiate a war> thus also her provocative actions with the making of a female harem, army or slave girls was already declaring her intention to throw the glove to Kaname for a challenge where he should step out of his house.
So IMO Kaname wants this war to happen, and through that war (with all the pieces alive and active), he wants to fulfill his OP, which in my opinion is identified with the ancestors wish (to give an end to the ones that change humans even with the humans consent as she had stated)/ at least I see that as a part of his OP, because that was one of the primary tasks that were addressed to him from the ancestor. Now that Sara might have set the pieces, he may no longer need her to go on and fulfill the continuation.
We saw at the first arc that the nobles that co-sided with the council and approved of its crimes were also killed and Kaname verified at that point that he shall fulfill his original plan starting with them. So in a greater scale Kaname perhaps intends to give an end to every aspect or person that he believes to be rotten and to have played a role in the misery of the past. Of course that’s only my estimation and I could be wrong but this is where my thoughts are leading me at the current point.
And the hunters that you referred above, I think that he does intend to use them. Only that they don’t know about it... yet (LOL). We shall see…
His ultimate motive, yes to offer to Yuuki a safer world and of course to humans also since they are threaten now openly….As Sara says and that’s a very important fact:
we can now co-exist with humans. Even if this co-existence is just temporary, we are still able to avoid repeating the big war that took place in the past
So it is like Asato; humans must be food and purebloods exterminated (as she had stated at the previous chapter), thus this war continues for Kaname with a new face this time and new revelations (but everything is coming out slowly).
I guess that it was easy for him to guess Sara's intentions since she was gathering up an army by changing humans and also since he knew that she shared Asato's opinions and ideals, its no wonder that he left Takuma there, he was waiting for her at the corner.
But it seems that he was expecting from her to make all the moves possible and start the flaming? Perhaps because as I said above he wishes to finish all threats that he knows for once and for all (but for the time being we can not see them and a reason can be Yuuki and her concealed past as you said, just like the first arc, not all villains and facts came first).
Meanwhile Sara can be his alibi at the end (if you get what i mean) so that all actions shall be revealed that came from her? which up to a point that's truth.
If however there is a war among purebloods coming, its no wonder that he wants Yuuki out of the way at this point, still if he intends to sacrifice himself we do not know, (his protection overexceeds the normal limits for me) or if he even feels unworthy of her after so much crimes we wont know until the end, at least until we see where his plan is heading. I agree that pieces are missing and they are very important to shed more light but despite Hino’s delay with the plot, everything shall fall in place eventually.
That was a long post and I am leaving you here, haha, thanks for the patience.
Also one last addition;
The chinese tl for the page above has the last line is confirmed in the japanese from the other spoiler. but some peopole keep saying kaname said his feelings for yuuki have changed here as well? does someone have the japanese for that? thanks! just want to satisfy my curiosity. kaname comes up with some strange lies!
Even so what is he supposed to do? in the college where Sara has multiple spies? Kaname is ditching himself one hundred meters under the ground and that is a strange lie? until now all efforts of Sara to use his secrets and weaknesses against him (see purebloods murders, Shizuka revelation to Yuuki, Zero's hate, sins of the past) have hit the wall and he is the one returning the ball back to her in greater speed and gravity than the one she actually threw! He is standing strong, not allowing her to use his weaknesses that could make him stop and that's important.