And the same goes for Kaname too, or not? In fact he has been through much more than Zero who only “fought” for his life! He saved the human race, he fought for a greater cause, he constantly protects Yuuki from day ONE and currently he has sacrificed his personal happiness for something apparently bigger cuz if he was the self-centered, possessive, evil “b******” that some fans think then he would have stayed home and play lovey-dovey with his love as Yuuki suggested … Why bother???
Or it would be fair for Kaname to sacrifice his life for a better world OR for ZEKI as a few fans suggested huh? Haha … GREAT sense of justice and fairness there … one-sided, biased, flexible and convenient for the Zeki ship
You are so right there, Nina. If we go by worth and what they have done or trying to do, Kaname definitely has a more right to live. Indeed biased and one sided. I agree with you completely, great logic. Very convenient for Zeki indeed.
Zero's death is actually a possibility too, and the fact that his level E was not written off as cured makes it more probable. There's nothing to say "he doesnt want to die" in fact he welcomes it, he also has a tendency to sacrifice himself.
Totally agree … there are even some fans that supported that Kaname didn’t save him with his blood cuz Zero really didn’t want to live so his life had no value for him!
On the other hand Kaname has his motive for go on living, and that’s his love for Yuuki and his determination to make a better and safer world for her AND the human kind. What’s Zero’s goal/purpose in life? Negativism and hate? Yes … I agree he should be rewarded Or he should have Yuuki or else he wouldn’t have any reason to live! That’s pity not love … just a lame excuse! A reasoning that downgrades Zero …
Another amazing logic. From both of you Nina and Sweet.
Really, being awarded for negativism and hate is crazy sounding.
And really is unfair. And indeed that is pity not love. Being with someone because of pity is not good, and the relationship with crumble. It's a horrible reason to be with someone and like you said does in fact downgrades Zero...
If he's not going to redeem himself thru acceptance then his only option is to die. The only reason he lives is to accept himself, the manga revolves around this like a fruit fly, so if he doesn;t... its clear what else he has left there.
Precisely! This is one of the messages Hino trying to pass over. Acceptance is the key word and not only for Zero … Kaname had to accept his nature at the beginning … we also saw Yuuki to struggle to accept her true nature as well … So Zero has to accept also that he isn’t a human any more but a vampire and believe in co-existence or else, what’s the point of his existence?
Yes, indeed a constant theme. Great posts Sweet & Nina. Zero is just having a way harder time with it. Yes, Zero does have and yeah, no point for his existence if he doesn't.
Exactly! All of them had a tragic life so far and many deaths have happened that brought much pain and not only to the protagonists. Therefore VK has already justified the genre as tragedy… doesn’t need a tragic death in the end to support its title!
That's for sure, Nina. It definitely doesn't need a tragic death at all.
And for the ones who wishing or dreaming a Zeki ending through Kaname’s death and moreover from Yuuki’s hands they can kiss goodbye their ship …
Not to mention that this would overshadowing everything. So if they can’t see a Zeki ending with Kaname alive then something wrong is going on with their ship cuz I can see perfectly a Yume ending with the three main characters alive and happy!
That's for sure! It definitely would overshadow everything. Great logic! And that is one reason why I truly believe that it will have a Yume ending. It's hard to imagine all 3 alive and happy at the end with a Zeki ending. I can easily see the Yume ending with all happy and alive.
And this is supported from Hino’s words … The KEY for the co-existence (which is the main idea in VK) are the three of them … Yuuki, Kaname and Zero, in this order actually!
So how accurate, fair or innocent are the opinions that Zero and Yuuki can only actualize co-existence thus and should be the end game (while Zero has done nothing in that direction thus far) and Kaname is the antagonist who is fighting against it??? I just wonder … Maybe they know better from the author …
Indeed. Wonderful logic. All 3 are needed, so all 3 should be alive at the end so saying just Zero and Yuuki can and thus be together is absurd. Indeed with working for co-existence, Zero is more of the antagonist than Kaname by a long shot. Zero's wanting to kill the vampires and hating them so, is not supporting co-existence at all.
Yeah, maybe they do know better. Haha
In the real VK the ONLY one of the three charas is Kaname who have done the major difference for co-existence throughout the story until now. So how so he doesn’t deserve happiness??? Even Kaien’s dream for a mixed academy never would have happened IF KANAME didn’t support the idea …
You are so right there. Kaname is the only one who has done anything out of the 3. Zero has been against it. He definitely deserves happiness. Yeah, only because of Kaname did Kaien's dream come true. The vampires openly said that they were only there because of Kaname. They never would have gone or agreed if it wasn't for him.
And my theory about Kaname knocking off the heads of families, is that they are doing something secretly bad, that would destroy the co-existence. And besides, look who is taking the place of the heads. Hanabusa Aidou is the head of his family now right? And he has gone to the academy, so he most likely thinks differently from his father and that would help the co-existence. Kaname is one to work for the greater good, even if very dangerous.
I so agree with that lol!
And remember the pic with Kaname the blue bird and the eggs! It’s a pic full of hope and happiness … I think it’s a message from the author that something good will come through from all this darkness in the end …
I believe so too. She does draw tragic looking pictures, but also ones filled with hope and happiness. I believe that she is telling us that. It is a long road to get there, but it's coming...
Personally I want a happy end for the three of them!
Me too! Makes everything they've gone through worth it. Ah, how satisfying.
EDIT: Sorry. Having trouble figuring out the quote system.
That's why no names are on them.