Yukieee wrote: In respect of that I might just figure what Kaname's reaction was after he got Sara hide into the HA -BINGO!- lol Maybe now I got answered my former question about the usefulness in having so many people (Zero, Kaien, Yuki) know about Kaname's next step. It was not making sense for me to "promote" his next killing like that so he would face a hell of opponents all at once when it came to slash Sara. I do agree when you claim he prolly wanted Sara to get scared and look for protection from the hunters.
Knightmare wrote: I feel like its kanames plan to get her into the ha too.
Juliet wrote: but why I have the feeling that Sara wants to be there?
I agree with all of you lol … and to sum up … I also get the vibe that Kaname wanted Sara at the HA but also Sara wants to go there!
And the question is … who is playing whose game here???
- First about Kaname …
Except from all the reasons that said above of why his visit to Sara doesn’t convince to have the purpose to kill her … there is also Touma’s case that leaves too many questions and it could be related with the latest development …
We have pointed out repeatedly that if Kaname wanted to kill him – even if he couldn’t do it by himself using the sword thus he needed Kaien’s hand – still he could have ripped his heart off hence any blow from Kaien would have been fatal.
Furthermore if you have noticed that scene … Kaname is flying up on a high wall at first to avoid Kaien’s attack and then he falls down on Kaien’s sword … here’s the scene:
> Kaien’s attack >> http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/75/25
> Kaname flies up on the wall >> http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/75/26
> and then falls down on Kaien’s sword >> http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/75/27
>> this movement made me think that Kaname could have had calculated where Kaien’s sword would hurt him i.e. where Touma’s body would have been harmed … and as we saw the blow wasn’t on the heart’s side << again that blow could have had killed Touma.
So I’m thinking if that was the case then leaving an alive Touma into Kaien’s hands the most likely outcome would have been Kaien to take Touma at the HA as it happened.
Thus I thought that Kaname maybe also wants Sara at the HA as well … Now for what reason; I do not have a clue! To trigger a certain reaction of the hunters??? How and for which purpose??? In relation with the tabs??? In relation with the toddlers kidnaps??? I’m clueless.
- Now about Sara …
From her theatricalities there in front of Takuma and Zero that scene reminded me of how she kneeled in front of Jimnou and plead for mercy and shelter at the academy playing the card of Ouri and Hio in front of Kaien and Yuuki later!
So this time she exploited again Kaname’s threatening attack to show that she is no longer safe at the academy.
Why she wants to transfer at the HA though??? Again I do not know lol. She wants to use the hunters somehow??? Even and if Kaien eats her acting again I hardly can see her show to fly with Yagari hahaha … Except if this is what she wants to create there >> a conflict/chaos in-between the hunters as she did in the academy …
How many lost puppies *ahem* PBs
can Yagari tolerates there I wonder? hahaha
This is what I can think currently.
Knightmare wrote: i think takuma was torn between Sara and kaname. takuma loves/wants sara, but he doesn't trust her. i think the blood cements takuma to her.
Okay let’s say that he was torn moreover since Kaname threatened to kill her … again how authentic could be Takuma’s feelings for Sara since we know that she’s using her blood to submit vampires? Cuz isn’t only the fact that Takuma drank from her … is also the proven usage of her blood … she is using it to coerce and create certain bonds. There is an intention behind …
So that’s why I don’t buy either Takuma’s feelings for her … and I mean Takuma might believe that he is in a twisted way in love with her but from what I have saw from Sara I believe that this is a delusion
which has been created from the power of her blood. Thus the question is … would Takuma have felt in the same way if she wouldn’t have used her blood to tie him??? IMO no.
do you guys think sara loves takuma? cos i certainly don't, i think takuma is more than a little bit delusional about her. but i keep seeing people saying she does. but the love confessions in this chapter are anything, takuma is clearly reading too much into her possessiveness and selfish desires because he so badly wants a hold on her.
sara's designs on takuma remind me of shizuka wanting zero obsessed with hating her. she doesn't care for him, she just wants a unique toy that shines for her.
… this is what I’m screaming from the beginning!
She is using him because of his relationship with Kaname! Thus I said if in Takuma’s place was Kain she would have done and said the same things! So Takuma is a pawn for her … there is not love … and I’ll dare to say not even like the twisted love/bond that Shizuka wanted to have with Zero!
I think her alter form of spiders suits her like glove … she certainly moves like the “black widow” … like a tarantula who’s trapping her preys into her web!
(I do not know how many days I’ll rant about Sara/Takuma’s case!)
First I think he wanted Kaname as mate maybe cuz of his power and potential leadership … but when she found out about Yuuki’s existence she changed course and set a plan to take him down. In any case though, Takuma was the needed pawn the link, since Kaname was unapproachable.
well, i don't think we can trust the imagery of kaname anymore, because he uses his blood copy thingy, it could be that version we saw when he visited hio. we don't know when he's off doing multiple things. when he was with kain at the volcano, he could also have been off fetching touma. how're we supposed to know whats real?
Yes you have a point … however I was thinking that in both scenes there was no reason to be in his alter-ego …
First in Hio’s case … if he went there to kill him and not only to attack him then he certainly would have needed his real body cuz of its powers.
Also in the volcano scene again … for what purpose to be there in his alter thingy in the first place? I mean even as you said he should have been elsewhere what’s the purpose to appear in front of Kain just to chat??
Don’t know … this case is getting on my nerves.
but as for using it in the ancestral past, we didn't see him with the sword before. each weapon is sentient and chooses to accept its bearer and also when to attack. when yuuki touched BR in 46 it didn't like her either.
Lol … I hadn’t thought of that … and maybe you are right. This sword either way was Rido’s … but we saw him to wield it as a child without harm. Hm… maybe the time frame that he is holding it plays a role or even maybe when it kills someone with it … we had in the past a theory that the anti-vampire weapons might absorb energy of the user when are used to kill … and Zero’s case as Juliet pointed out, after he killed Rido might be another hint.
Certainly though I hope that isn’t an inconsistency!
i gotta admit, i really wanna know where he is hiding the sword when he changes into bats???
I’m afraid you will remain with the curiosity hahaha here I have tons of questions … what’s the meaning of Hanadagi’s castle shield; why Sara took his heart; why she kept his guard; why she imprisoned humans at her dungeon;
Why; why; why; … someone to stop me
… and I’m afraid that I will remain with many why …
@Mariangie this is a nice observation and I surely hope that there is a meaning behind that indifferent scene between Ruka and Kageyama because I couldn’t care less about his love confession … so many panels wasted!
However there is the possibility that Hino wanted to stress only the power of his feelings that brought the breaking of the spell since the title of the chapter is love confessions!
But I hope you are right and something more meaningful comes out of this such as the disclosure of vampires’ existence … In any case though we saw that the spell can be broken even from a plain human …