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    Post by kialovejapan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:36 pm

    Hi there!
    I was admiring the amazing art book of Hino Matsuri, (lol) and thanks to the last chapter, when I see that picture I started to see all clear!!!!



    (if you click on the link, you'll see another seize of the same picture more big and clear!! ^^)

    There are a lot of hidden message:
    1) Seiren is following Kaname...(like we saw in the last chapter Seiren is the only alley to Kaname).
    2)Ruka and Kain left Kaname...their roads are going to separate....(I don't know if they will be enemy but I don't really think so...because
    3)Ruka (like you can see from the immage) is wearing on her coat a brooch in the form as a butterfly (It's Yuki!!) We know that Ruka said to Kaname that she has going to be Yuki's alley!! And
    4) Pay attention at the ring that Ruka is wearing!! xD Is she going to engage with Kain?!?! Wow this sounds great!!
    5) Finally you can see a the moon!!! The position of the Moon suggest the crescent's moon (and in the web I saw this interesting meaning of the crescent's Moon:

    The crescent moon is the dynamic excellence. In fact, coming from a period of meditation and relaxation, is characterized by an energy bubbly, bouncy, playful and represents the new, youth and spring.The growing phase of the Moon grants independence. We can find our space, our crop of times only to plan, learn, learn and discover, all actions are not finalized, but dictated only by the pleasure of doing what we want to do at that very moment, regardless of subsequent realizations practices.The symbol that better than any other represents the energy of this moon is Artemis, the virgin huntress, venerated in the covens of witches under the Roman name of Diana. Daughter of Zeus and Leto, Apollo's sister, is armed with arrows forged by Hephaestus and the Cyclopes, and moves on carts faster the wind, had a gift from Pan. She lives in the mountains and forests, and is always accompanied by dogs. Callimachus Hymn to Artemis, so she turns to her father, Zeus

    Only a coincidence?!?!? Mmmhh -.- I don't think so

    Last but not least Hino-sama wrote about this image in her art book this:

    The loyal submitted that protect the secrets moments of the boss.

    About her explenation maybe she uses the expression "Loyal submitted" in order to emphasize the "Ruka's betrayal" (if we wanna call in that way...)
    Finally what secrets moments she is going to talking about?! About the fact that Kaname wants to kill all the purebloods?! Or there is something behind?!??!
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    Post by msa-x on Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:34 pm

    Great observation Kia! Very Happy But if you pay attention to Ruka's ring.....There's a symbol!! It's Zero's symbol xD cheers Is she going to marry with Zero? o.O hahaha xD well...maybe it's like a promise,like...a agreement. That explain her actions in chapter 82 U____U that ring symbolize the relation between zero and Ruka (of course not of engagement Razz )
    Did you see the artbook too? xD When I finished reading some post of meanings in hino's illustrations I took my artnook and began looking for hidden messages hahahaha and I saw this picture like you explain cheers
    Kaname is walking through the grave with bunch of roses....for who? for HW?
    Ruka and Kain are waiting outside the grave like "we don't want to have more troubles" and Seiren is looking after Kaname inside like a bodyguard Cool
    About the moon...^^ I serached about Artemis a few months ago and it's a confussed relation between yuki and that god U___U At this illustration yuki looks like artemis xD "always accompanied of dogs"
    http://kisuki.net/artbooks/hino-matsuri-illustrations-vampire-knight/item26
    god of animals...hunter...moon...virgin...pure...
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    Post by kialovejapan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:56 pm

    ahah xD well osservation too msa-x!!
    I pay attention at the image that you posted and the white wolf is Zero (obviously lol) but the interesting thing is that on its left eye, the white wolf-zero has an earing..a percing!! XD I've never seen a wolf with a percing..ahah
    The black wolf is Kaname because of the colour of its eyes rdd blood xD
    But Yuki is dressing a marring dress?! OMG O.o
    I love Hino-sama art book is a master piece of art!!! XD I love her style of drawning in her time she improved her self!!! ;) she's great
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    Post by libra on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:45 pm


    I like this topic... Great observation! Well done.

    If all these were ment to be small hints, then Ruka must be the key to the "secret moments" since she is holding a diary where usually our secrets are kept. And the diary has two little things hanging. A rose (probably Yuki) and what's the other?
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    Post by kialovejapan on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:18 pm

    libra wrote:
    I like this topic... Great observation! Well done.

    If all these were ment to be small hints, then Ruka must be the key to the "secret moments" since she is holding a diary where usually our secrets are kept. And the diary has two little things hanging. A rose (probably Yuki) and what's the other?

    Thanks for the compliments!! ^^
    But if you ONLY think at how many picture Hino-sama did in her art book....... o.O
    I mean there are a lot of hidden messages in!! xD
    So cool!
    Oh yes!
    You're right, I don't think at the diary!!! Yeah that's true...all the secrets....I think Ruka knows well Kaname (more than Yuki) ... Do you remember the part in which Ruka adviced Kaname (a little after when he showes his memory to Yuuki)...Ruka proclamed her self as a Yuki's alley...!
    Yeah female's power!! ì.ì
    Do you reffering to the strange thing that Ruka is hanging?! There is a diary and....I don't know maybe a piece of paper?! A page of the diary?!? :/ Or is simple a ribbon of the Ruka's coat?!?!?
    Ah Hino-sama will get crazy all of us....>-< xD
    off topic Nice signature Libra!! *.* off topic lol! sEm_oops
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    Post by kanachanimmortal on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:45 am

    nice observation but.........................if ruka is in on yuuki's side then that means she wants to kill kaname as well.what the heck?? Shocked
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    Post by Katherine on Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:18 pm

    lucykaede wrote:nice observation but.........................if ruka is in on yuuki's side then that means she wants to kill kaname as well.what the heck?? Shocked

    That doesn´t mean that she wants to kill him! I don´t think that she will fight against him with the intention to kill...I think that she will be a little bit passive. She isn´t on Kaname´s side anymore, but that doesn´t make her a full supporter of Yuuki...I think that Kain and Ruka will leave the location without fighting (but that´s just my opinion)
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    Post by libra on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:17 pm

    kialovejapan wrote:Do you reffering to the strange thing that Ruka is hanging?!

    I was reffering to the small two things that there were hanging from the top of the diary. The right one looks like a rose but I can't find the word for the left one scratch

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    kialovejapan wrote: off topic Nice signature Libra!! *.* off topic lol! sEm_oops

    thanks cheers cheers
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    Post by XxContradictionsxX on Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:11 pm

    If you look closely, Kaname is holding a chain or collar of some sort, which i'm assuming means he's let them go to complete there own tasks so to speak. Surprised
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    Post by Anneliezz on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:00 pm

    libra wrote:
    kialovejapan wrote:Do you reffering to the strange thing that Ruka is hanging?!

    I was reffering to the small two things that there were hanging from the top of the diary. The right one looks like a rose but I can't find the word for the left one scratch

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    kialovejapan wrote: off topic Nice signature Libra!! *.* off topic lol! sEm_oops

    thanks cheers cheers

    It seems like a fang to me.
    You know like the ones from a shark to put on a necklace?



    I'm getting two posssible meanings out of this.

    1. reference to her alliance with zero and yuuki (yuuki has been depicted with roses before, and the fang kinda reminds me of zero's piercing)
    2. Maybe these are hints about the secret...the fang could be a reference to the vampire race in general and well, the rose I don't know...roses come up a lot in vk...it's kinda hard to guess


    The problem with these hints is that you usually only get them afterwards xD


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    Post by kialovejapan on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:26 am

    Anneliezz wrote:
    libra wrote:
    kialovejapan wrote:Do you reffering to the strange thing that Ruka is hanging?!

    I was reffering to the small two things that there were hanging from the top of the diary. The right one looks like a rose but I can't find the word for the left one scratch

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    kialovejapan wrote: off topic Nice signature Libra!! *.* off topic lol! sEm_oops

    thanks cheers cheers

    It seems like a fang to me.
    You know like the ones from a shark to put on a necklace?



    I'm getting two posssible meanings out of this.

    1. reference to her alliance with zero and yuuki (yuuki has been depicted with roses before, and the fang kinda reminds me of zero's piercing)
    2. Maybe these are hints about the secret...the fang could be a reference to the vampire race in general and well, the rose I don't know...roses come up a lot in vk...it's kinda hard to guess


    The problem with these hints is that you usually only get them afterwards xD


    Oh what a nice osservation Annelize!!!
    Hip-hip-urra!!!
    So funny this topic i love solve mysterious messages...xD
    I agree with your interpretation
    maybe they are fangs...but i have to add this one thing: maybe thestrange object is a horn...in my country it's a goodluck..like a lucky charm, a talisman... If you take with you this object will give you luck!!..
    But what luck we have to wait from that?! Maybe the real meaning is that luckily thanks to ruka we can see zero still alive cause she saved him...
    I don't think that hino did that picture with somes messages disconnected...i mean they are all referring to chapter 83..so all the object..moon..diary..fangs..horn..have to solve that chapter...this is my little thought Smile


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    Post by rosaever on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:57 am

    kialovejapan wrote:
    Anneliezz wrote:
    libra wrote:

    I was reffering to the small two things that there were hanging from the top of the diary. The right one looks like a rose but I can't find the word for the left one scratch

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    thanks cheers cheers

    It seems like a fang to me
    .
    You know like the ones from a shark to put on a necklace?



    I'm getting two posssible meanings out of this.

    1. reference to her alliance with zero and yuuki (yuuki has been depicted with roses before, and the fang kinda reminds me of zero's piercing)
    2. Maybe these are hints about the secret...the fang could be a reference to the vampire race in general and well, the rose I don't know...roses come up a lot in vk...it's kinda hard to guess


    The problem with these hints is that you usually only get them afterwards xD


    Oh what a nice osservation Annelize!!!
    Hip-hip-urra!!!
    So funny this topic i love solve mysterious messages...xD
    I agree with your interpretation
    maybe they are fangs...but i have to add this one thing: maybe thestrange object is a corn...in my country it's a luckhand... If you take with you this object will give you luck!!..
    But what luck we have to wait from that?! Maybe the real meaning is that luckily thanks to ruka we can see zero still alive cause she saved him...
    I don't think that hino did that picture with somes messages disconnected...i mean they are all referring to chapter 83..so all the object..moon..diary..fangs..corn..have to solve that chapter...this is my little thought Smile


    Well, I think it's a fang. Here is the thread where you can find more pictures with mysteorious fang and theory about it:
    http://vampireknight.all-up.com/t812-vampire-knight-object-logo-symbolisms

    After last chapters this picture with Seiren, Ruka,Kain and Kaname looks really like a premonition of what is happening. I am not sure what is Kaname holding in his hands, in one there are roses but in second...?
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    Post by msa-x on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:43 pm

    After last chapters this picture with Seiren, Ruka,Kain and Kaname looks really like a premonition of what is happening. I am not sure what is Kaname holding in his hands, in one there are roses but in second...?
    A black ribbon? is a black ribbon of the bunch of roses?
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    Post by kialovejapan on Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:36 pm

    I'm sorry I have to apologize I wrong the transaltion...^^' I was reffering about the HORN of goodluck!! ^^'
    Sorry sorry sorry!
    I add an image of what I'm saying:

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    And this is a little explenation of the meaning and the origins of that ancient talisman:

    The goodluck charm is the horn, rigorously red,preferably in coral and handmade, (even if today they are found mostly in is plastic and produced industrially).
    The horn because it seems that since the Neolithic it was symbol of power and fertility and so it was a good omen for those who had.
    In coral because the popular mind regarded the coral as a precious stone with the power to cast hexes and to protect pregnant women. Red because is a color that is often associated, and in many cultures, to luck.
    Handmade because it buys the beneficial powers of hands that realize it.
    The horn does not buy, you give away (at the very most is stolen..we are joking!! ): in case of need - if we see an evil eye, if a black cat crossed our road, if we pass under a ladder carelessly - we have to rub it vigorously between the fingers.
    Some models are equipped with hump. In fact, the hunchback is another lucky.

    The interesting things are somes not all (obviously ^^):
    1) The fact that this horn can protect pregnant women....I mean is there in Vampire Knight some girls whi will be in pregnant soon?!??! :/ mmmhhh I have some doubts on hit, because it's not the time for a similar thing...But I'll so happy to see some kids!! xD
    2)The fact that is a powerfull talisman...Maybe referring to that picture is meaning that Ruka and Kain are strong together...Who knows?!
    3)The color red I know that it doesn't involved...The horn in the picture is white...white is the color of the purity,the withness, the innocence,....
    4) the fact that in several picture Hino-sama (thanks to rosaever...^^) added this particular detail is "strange" there is a deep meaning under all this mess xD
    But the most probably possibility is that the horn is really a fang cause it's more vampire!!xD
    And also I don't think that Hino-sama take inspiration by the italian horn, which is so sooo famous...^^
    Finally is interesting that the horn (Sorry I'm reyturning to my sunk's theory...^^') has to be gift!! Not to buy!!! Who gave the horn/fang to Ruka?!??! :/
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    Post by Anneliezz on Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:40 pm

    Also, we might wanna check out what Kain's wearing.
    -I don't know if the necklace is random or not..Can't see anything in it,but you knever know..
    -also, on his jacket, near his shoulder, there's some kind of christal. It seems like the type of chrystal coming from a pureblood when they die. (Like in the intro from the anime, but here smaller)It could be something elso also. Opinions? And would it also be a reference to the secret?


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    Post by kanachanimmortal on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:55 pm

    and just look how seiren is looking at them,either she will fight against them or join them,i think.but there are more hopes for her to fight because she is so loyal to kaname,that is why i love her,atleast she does not lie that she will trust kaname even if she is betrayed,yuuki so lied about that,ch 83 proves it.
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    Post by kialovejapan on Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:24 pm


    I have to add it cause imageshack.us give me somes problem in the upload of the image edited by me..with the highlights that I made it!

    I re-study the picture and these are my results:
    1)RED CIRCLE:If you pay attention to the Ruka’s ring you’ll see a little little simble on it: it’s the same (I think…I have zoomed on it!! Please do also you!! ^^) logo of Zero’s tattoo!!! Hino-sama wanted to shows as (and now she shows us finally) a deeply bond with these two far characters…because if you think on it Ruka and Zero doesn’t speak a lot each others…
    2)PURPLE CIRCLE: I zoomed also on this detail and for me it seems a rose…a carillon, a bell, a pendant that is a markbook.. And this is another link with Zero: the Bloody Rose!! But I zoomed another time and I saw a little two signs on it, they seem like a bat’s wings…is ita another simble of Zero?! If you look on this topic you’ll understand....[url=http://vampireknight.all-up.com/t812-vampire-knight-object-logo-symbolisms ]symbolisms of Vampire Knight[/url]
    3)INDIGO CIRCLE: this is the famous fangs/horn (to me) cause this two elements (the little bell rose and the fang/horn) are so so closer: this is another message: the hotn is a goodluck and the rose is Zero so the interpretation is that Ruka will give luck to Zero (in other words she saved him xD)
    4)YELLOW CIRCLE: If you pay attention at the two yellow circles that I’ve hightlighted on the background you’ll se a cemetery!!! O.o Kaname is walking with Seiren in a cemetery …this is a clear message on what Kaname is doing: he wants to kill all the purebloods!!! (or another interpretation could be the fact that he lived for so long that he saw a lot of death!!...And Seiren is always by his side, she always walking behind him, she continues to follow him…..Why!?!??!?!? :/
    5)GREEN CIRCLE: Kaname on his right hand is carrying a bunch of flowers!!! For who are this flowers?! I hope for Sara! Ah ah ah xD… Or maybe for his beloved Yuki…or it was a goodbye to Ruka who betrayed him!! It’s like she rejected the bunch of flowers…
    6)WHITE CIRCLE: On the left hand Kaname is carrying on another thing!!! But what is it?! A balck chain?! (mmh I’ve several doubts…cause there are no trace of the tipical design of a chain)..in my opinion it’s more like a black ribbon!!! Maybe that ribbon was hug the diary that Ruka is handing…But I think that Hino-sama wouldn’t do something to hard to understand…maybe is only the ribbon that was with the bounch of the flowers…(P.s:the flowers are RED ROSES!!! Passion yeah but do you remember some Yuki’s picture…?! Also the still doll ending of the anime!! Yuki is surrounded by BLUE ROSES and in another picture Kaname was squeezed BLUE ROSES….-.-…:/)
    7)ORANGE CIRCLE: Finally the necklack of Kain!! I zoomed on it and there are little words written on hit not understandable…unfortunately…but if you look at it with attention you’ll see two parts! There is a little chain that link the two elements of the “talisman-tag”…I think that this could be referring to the new link-relationship between Ruka and him!! Afterall he finally kissed her!!! ^^
    And you?! What have you found in this amazing picture of Hino-sama?!?!
    Hey?! Maybe we could open a investigation club!! xD
    I conseil you to save and zoom the image I did it to find this brand news details!! ^^


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    Post by Brendaandrea16 on Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:07 pm

    really interesting theory
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    Post by kialovejapan on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:54 am

    Thank you Brenda!! ^^
    P.s I love your avatar...I love your Signature!!! *.*
    So beautiful!!! ;)
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    Post by ILOVEZERO!!! on Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:26 am

    Wow good eye on all this detail. Most people would have never thought about this stuff but these pictures really have a lot of meaning to them... very thoughtful. Good job on the research
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    Post by kialovejapan on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:56 am

    ILOVEZERO!!! wrote:Wow good eye on all this detail. Most people would have never thought about this stuff but these pictures really have a lot of meaning to them... very thoughtful. Good job on the research
    Oh thank you so much!! I'like investigate..!! 8D But I found all this hidden messages for a really pure case cause I was admiring the wonderful hino matsuri's artbook on my bed and then when I saw that picture it was all so clear. Cause Ruka and kain with kaname and seiren are really few..xD that's all thanks for your comment. P.s I've just see the new graphics of the forum o man I'm a Zeki but That Picture of Kaname make me go out of mind ah ah vampire knight forever!! Come on June is going to end and July is knocking on the door..can't wait anymore for the 84 chappy....xD

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