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    how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by lalaland on Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:36 pm

    i'm interested to see what you guys think he is about to do!
    that chap was such a cliff-hanger.... damn you Hino~sama
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    Re: how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by juliet on Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:38 pm

    tell me about...just at the best part...the thing is why is Kaname there? and why should the ball lure him anyway? due to the presence of the purebloods?

    I am still behind cause i have not checked the full translation yet, so...I am reserved to all of this..but good question...what is the reaction that should be expected here?

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    Re: how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by nina on Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:09 pm

    Good question indeed …

    Kaname supposedly must be okay with what he sees no? This wasn’t his plan to push Yuuki away; to make her abandon him; to follow separate paths etc? If so then he should be thankful to Zero I suppose rofl

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    Re: how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by lalaland on Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:16 pm

    juliet wrote:tell me about...just at the best part...the thing is why is Kaname there? and why should the ball lure him anyway? due to the presence of the purebloods?

    I am still behind cause i have not checked the full translation yet, so...I am reserved to all of this..but good question...what is the reaction that should be expected here?

    by the way, welcome lalaland... cheers
    well, i think that it would lure Kaname because of the purebloods being there (Yuki and the other guy who i can't remember the name of)now was it just me or was the whole ball thing kind of random? i mean the last chapter they were out to get Kaname now they are partying with the vamp's and kissing??? W.T.F.???
    but i think that this chapter was longer, there seemed to be more pages then normal- or maybe that's just me....
    at any rate i think there are lots of different possibly for what Kaname could do. he could remain calm turn into a bunch of bats (i doubt we are seeing the real Kaname just his clone) then he would try to kill the pure blood dude whose name i can never remember. then zero and yuki will come and (with the help of pure blood dude) trap Kaname (somehow....) then the chapter will end there and hino will make up wait some more.... damn you Hino-sama.
    p.s in one the pages (can't remember which one) i swear i saw rima she had a cloak on and everything and she was with a bunch of other vampires! wait maybe that's it! Yuki invited all of the night class and together they will trap (hopefully not kill) kaname!
    edit: thank you for welcoming me! i hope we can discuss together well! (my spelling is crazily bad, sorry about that)
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    Re: how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by juliet on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:16 pm

    i mean the last chapter they were out to get Kaname now they are partying with the vamp's and kissing??? W.T.F.???
    but i think that this chapter was longer, there seemed to be more pages then normal- or maybe that's just me....

    haha, yes Hino seems to go from another point to another; i mean they said good-byes (yuuki to Yori, kain to the kids), it gives you the impression that they are going on a journey of some sort and then they are all back to Isaya's place who is making a ball to trap Kaname (?) and everybody joins. I don't see the lure or the bait again> Kaname could have visited him any time...what's the meaning of the presence of all? to kill them all? Shocked after all he is only after purebloods, yes anyway...

    p.s in one the pages (can't remember which one) i swear i saw rima she had a cloak on and everything and she was with a bunch of other vampires! wait maybe that's it! Yuki invited all of the night class and together they will trap (hopefully not kill) kaname!

    yes, you are right that was Rima, and the bait to capture him i guess or stop him or whatever but again i do not see why they thought that Kaname would respond...

    at any rate i think there are lots of different possibly for what Kaname could do. he could remain calm turn into a bunch of bats (i doubt we are seeing the real Kaname just his clone) then he would try to kill the pure blood dude whose name i can never remember. then zero and yuki will come and (with the help of pure blood dude) trap Kaname (somehow....) then the chapter will end there and hino will make up wait some more.... damn you Hino-sama.

    this is an option but due to the previous chapter and the goodbyes, i think that here something bigger is going to happen; perhaps Yuuki this time manages to follow Kaname, somehow, or anyway something of a greater development happens because she otherwise it will be a repetition of the other two times (one in academy- one in the HA) where they lose his track and he dissapears.

    thank you for welcoming me! i hope we can discuss together well! (my spelling is crazily bad, sorry about that)

    you are welcome, don't worry i also type fast some times and i do not see even I what i am typing lol...at least i hope that i am making sense lol

    Kaname supposedly must be okay with what he sees no? This wasn’t his plan to push Yuuki away; to make her abandon him; to follow separate paths etc? If so then he should be thankful to Zero I suppose

    it seems that this was his plan from the beginning placing Zero next to Yuuki, when he lost his parents, yes, i think that Kaname normally would not even interfere if it had not been for Rido, Yuuki herself breaking the spell, and his own feelings that grew unexpectedly. So yes, normally he must step away and let them be as such, because that was the route to go. But if this plan works (which at least in the previous chapters could not see it working that much), then what is left to reverse here? His plan must meet a flaw, in order for Yuuki or Zero to be able to stop him, and Yuuki as we know is the only one that could do that.

    So in a far more general concept perhaps this scene has also its value as Kaname might be thinking that his plan progresses as it should be...but is it? Does he appear there and then out of pure jealousy? because i can not understand how he always manages to appear at the right time, even so, even if he does not admit anything (i do not think that he shall admit it) apparently he will interrupt the scene and this can be enough...

    then walk to his target, Isaya?






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    Re: how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by lalaland on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:12 pm

    this is a little of topic but, were did Kaname get his mask/cloak/outfit from? did he like, mug some poor Vampire he happened to pass? how did he find out about the ball, i mean yuki/pure blood dude/zero kind of plan it suddenly how did he find out so suddenly?
    but anyway if he was so in a rush to kill of the P.B. (pure bloods) why show his face (or, well, mask) to yuki/zero. surely he would know that they would try to get him? well, i'm hoping that he got jealous when he saw that and interrupted to stop it.
    man, i hope that's the case, i wanna see a jealous Kaname. i'd also love to see a protective Kaname while he's at it.
    i know it woun't happen but i can dream right?
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    Post by lalaland on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:31 pm

    there is also the possibility that Kaname my have planed his own plan and he is only trying to district Zero/yuki with his "fake" presents on the landing while the real Kaname kills the P.B.'s in the ball room, i think the Toma P.B. (i think that's this name) was also invited but i can't remember that well.... anyway i think that Kaname will take charge of the situation and use it to his advantage.
    i don't think he's dumb enough to fall for whatever trick they (yuki/zero e.c.t) have up their sleeve.
    he ain't dumb! (well, i hope not)
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    Post by juliet on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:30 pm

    there is also the possibility that Kaname my have planed his own plan and he is only trying to district Zero/yuki with his "fake" presents on the landing while the real Kaname kills the P.B.'s in the ball room, i think the Toma P.B. (i think that's this name) was also invited but i can't remember that well....

    I do not remember Toma being referred, Toya is Rima's last name though and she was there...

    i don't think he's dumb enough to fall for whatever trick they (yuki/zero e.c.t) have up their sleeve.

    for Kaname to appear this "trap" should be convenient, somehow...i hope that at least at the next chapter he says/explains something, last few chapters its like he is mute or something.. Evil or Very Mad development Hino! Please!!






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    Post by kanachanimmortal on Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:22 pm

    kaname's plan to make zeki together wow.then zero should be thankful to kaname.i don't understand,why she wants to stop him?you kissed zero,you love him,you feel for him,you wanna stay with him then miss most annoying character,you should take artemis and stab right at his heart.why to stop him?
    i guess next development of hino is going to be,yes kaname you are my enemy now,from now on i won't try to stop but kill you.he ha ha ha ha.... sFun_hailtheking

    huh?why hino is wasting her pages on nonsense things?let yuuki clearly say this,kill kaname and stop the manga.why to torchur reader with the crap.


    about kaname's reaction,well he will be jealous but i don't think he will do anything.he will directly go to isaya to kill him.

    i think this killing will make yuuki change her mind from stop to kill kaname.


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    Post by RIchard on Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:55 pm

    I doubt yuuki would kill kaname unless it is some sort of extreme reason, we have seen yuuki in the past only wanting to capture even vampires that abduct children so her killing him for anything but desperation in the moment is kinda unthinkable. The only way I see her killing him is to save zero which I doubt will happen. Not cause kaname can't kill zero, after the hunter HQ invasion I am sure he can kill zero, all he has to do is turn his blood inside zero into bats again.

    If yuuki does kill kaname the only way I can see it coming about is kaname saying or doing some thing to send zero into a rage and as zero attacks yuuki uses the bracelet to stop zero, then kaname stabbing the helpless zero [Not a fatal wound, just to get a reaction out of yuuki] to which yuuki panics and kills kaname. This type of ending will however leave a really bad taste in my mouth.

    The only way to truly end the love triangle is for her to love one in spite of the others presence not cause the lack of it.
    This is the reason I am not a yumi, it can be considered that yumi started only cause the possibility of zeki was removed. [Yuuki believing she can never be with zero and he would never accept her cause she is a vampire pb] So this can be seen as a relationship caused from lack of presence.
    However right now zeki is doing the same damn thing, yuuki and zero being together cause kaname cant be with yuuki anymore. Again just like with the yumi even if you don't agree it is still a consideration.
    Now with this said you might wonder why I am a zeki, the answer is simple, it is cause of yuukis thoughts, we see most of her thoughts, even when she was with kaname shifted to zero often and her reactions when she see's zero. Put simply what I see from her reactions with zero are actions of a girl in love, even if she is to thickheaded to admit it.

    But then again this is just the way I interrupt the story.
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    Post by kanachanimmortal on Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:46 pm

    RIchard wrote:I doubt yuuki would kill kaname unless it is some sort of extreme reason, we have seen yuuki in the past only wanting to capture even vampires that abduct children so her killing him for anything but desperation in the moment is kinda unthinkable. The only way I see her killing him is to save zero which I doubt will happen. Not cause kaname can't kill zero, after the hunter HQ invasion I am sure he can kill zero, all he has to do is turn his blood inside zero into bats again.

    If yuuki does kill kaname the only way I can see it coming about is kaname saying or doing some thing to send zero into a rage and as zero attacks yuuki uses the bracelet to stop zero, then kaname stabbing the helpless zero [Not a fatal wound, just to get a reaction out of yuuki] to which yuuki panics and kills kaname. This type of ending will however leave a really bad taste in my mouth.

    The only way to truly end the love triangle is for her to love one in spite of the others presence not cause the lack of it.
    This is the reason I am not a yumi, it can be considered that yumi started only cause the possibility of zeki was removed. [Yuuki believing she can never be with zero and he would never accept her cause she is a vampire pb] So this can be seen as a relationship caused from lack of presence.
    However right now zeki is doing the same damn thing, yuuki and zero being together cause kaname cant be with yuuki anymore. Again just like with the yumi even if you don't agree it is still a consideration.
    Now with this said you might wonder why I am a zeki, the answer is simple, it is cause of yuukis thoughts, we see most of her thoughts, even when she was with kaname shifted to zero often and her reactions when she see's zero. Put simply what I see from her reactions with zero are actions of a girl in love, even if she is to thickheaded to admit it.

    But then again this is just the way I interrupt the story.

    i advice hino to find a boyfriend for herself so that she can differentiate between friendly love and romantic love.
    it looks like yuuki doesn't know what love is.she knows just to give herself to anyone who is in distress.cheap girl created by hino who thinks cheap.sry but this chapter was a very very cheap way to develop zeki.
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    Re: how will Kaname react to chap 87?

    Post by mariangie on Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:24 pm

    The problem of how I see Kaname would react about finding Yuuki with Zero kissing (or almost kissing ) . Is that Kaname already left Yuuki as a way to protect her . Also he believes he deserve her no more due to his sins . He knows if his plans are to go as planned , he will die . So no matter how jealous of Zero he is . Or how crazy to take Yuuki back , kiss her and tell her "I love you " . Kaname can only lie to Yuuki about how he feels . Telling her she is free to decide for herself what she wants . To go with Zero if that is her own choice .

    This creates the situation of a Zeki pairing ending expectation by readers . Expectations that could shatter by later events .

    A masquerade party scene where both Zero and Yuuki hide thier faces from each other with masks . A way for Zero to believe he is again with the "human "Yuuki he loves and not the vampire one . Yuuki remembering she has cherished the moments she expend with Zero as a " human " herself . Yuuki's doubts if her feelings for Zero continues to be just treasuring Zero as a boy or if they has morphed to love him as a man . A kiss appears to happen between Zero and Yuuki . Yuuki notices Kaname is there . Removes her mask . Saying "But , I ... "

    " But I ..." what ? That she continues to love Kaname . Or she knows she can't be Zero's until she confronts Kaname and breaks with him definitively . Or other reason . This is the question now .

    Here is where Yuuki has to confront Kaname to justify herself why she was kissing Zero . The deal here is if the plot was to progress to a natural Zeki end . Yuuki has to show Kaname she has no more doubts about her feelings for Kaname nor Zero . That she has to prove both Kaname and Zero her love feelings for Kaname had faded . Make Kaname see no matter how cold he acted in front of her . Yuuki didn't care about Kaname feelings nor actions against her .

    But most probably when Yuuki confronts Kaname . There would be clues of her continue to have love feelings for Kaname . Because she would want to see Kaname reacting against what he saw . To see him jealous or mad or anything . To do something more than stand there with a poker face . Telling her , "You're free to do as you pleases . "

    A posibility here is Yuuki telling Kaname why he has not fulfilled his promise to kill her or allow her to kill him if he really continues to love her .

    What could happen next is Yuuki deciding to go to Zero as Kaname desires . But contines to doubt if she is making the right choice . If she is just chosing Zero because Kaname is pushing her to do so . Or if she is doing so because her love for Kaname is no more and now Zero is the one .

    Another thing is the truth about Kaname's " crimes " will be revealed soon . At least the part about Aido - dono will be revealed in one or two chapters . If Yuuki discovers Kaname is only pretending to be the "bad guy ". Lying to everybody , including her about his involvements in the past events . That Kaname did play a part in the events of Zero's past . But not the way they think he had . Yuuki would try to help Kaname reinvindicate himself . Creating the path for eventually Yuuki notice the one for her was always Kaname .

    So a posibility about the recent plot . It is trying readers to believe the end would be Zeki . But later surprising the readers to find the real end was meant to be Yume .

    I was expecting a "false" Zeki end with Kaname telling Yuuki to go to Zero because he deserves her no more . Before the final events that make Yuuki see she is really Kaname's . My surprise is to see happening so soon .

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    Post by RIchard on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:52 pm

    lucykaede wrote:
    RIchard wrote:I doubt yuuki would kill kaname unless it is some sort of extreme reason, we have seen yuuki in the past only wanting to capture even vampires that abduct children so her killing him for anything but desperation in the moment is kinda unthinkable. The only way I see her killing him is to save zero which I doubt will happen. Not cause kaname can't kill zero, after the hunter HQ invasion I am sure he can kill zero, all he has to do is turn his blood inside zero into bats again.

    If yuuki does kill kaname the only way I can see it coming about is kaname saying or doing some thing to send zero into a rage and as zero attacks yuuki uses the bracelet to stop zero, then kaname stabbing the helpless zero [Not a fatal wound, just to get a reaction out of yuuki] to which yuuki panics and kills kaname. This type of ending will however leave a really bad taste in my mouth.

    The only way to truly end the love triangle is for her to love one in spite of the others presence not cause the lack of it.
    This is the reason I am not a yumi, it can be considered that yumi started only cause the possibility of zeki was removed. [Yuuki believing she can never be with zero and he would never accept her cause she is a vampire pb] So this can be seen as a relationship caused from lack of presence.
    However right now zeki is doing the same damn thing, yuuki and zero being together cause kaname cant be with yuuki anymore. Again just like with the yumi even if you don't agree it is still a consideration.
    Now with this said you might wonder why I am a zeki, the answer is simple, it is cause of yuukis thoughts, we see most of her thoughts, even when she was with kaname shifted to zero often and her reactions when she see's zero. Put simply what I see from her reactions with zero are actions of a girl in love, even if she is to thickheaded to admit it.

    But then again this is just the way I interrupt the story.

    i advice hino to find a boyfriend for herself so that she can differentiate between friendly love and romantic love.
    it looks like yuuki doesn't know what love is.she knows just to give herself to anyone who is in distress.cheap girl created by hino who thinks cheap.sry but this chapter was a very very cheap way to develop zeki.

    Bad, BAD, don't you dare jinx this, we don't want hino getting pregnant and going on a 9 month break to have the baby like the mangaka of dead man wonderland did. pale Crying or Very sad
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    Post by kanachanimmortal on Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:48 am

    kana chan has to do lot more things than to stop his enemy and ex fiancee from kissing. lol!
    atmost he will accuse yuuki of infidelity,thats it and then boom his all sexy attentions towards isaya sama.
    i love you kana chan.even if you die in the manga,i will always cherish you,you are better dead than with stupid yuuki.love you. lol!
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    Post by XxDeepDarkForestxX on Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:13 pm

    Maybe a final fight between Zero & Kaname? scratch but that seems a bit early...

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