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    ZeKi still in run to win?!?!

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    Does Zero hate all pure bloods, including Yuki???

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    ZeKi still in run to win?!?!

    Post by The Chrysalis Whispers on Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:09 am

    First topic message reminder :

    ZeKi has lost the battle of LOVE?!?!

    confused argue
    Is it possible for Zero to realize that he can't live without Yuki, before its too late? Even if he realizes it, can he do anything about it? Can he fight against Kaname?
    Also, can Zero really hate Yuki? Does his heart think otherwise? Is it possible that ZeKi has lost to YuMe?
    Zero said that he wanted to kill every pure blood, but when Yuki met him, he didn't do anything to her. The fact that he offered his blood, was it because he thought that he was in debt to Yuki or was it love?!?!
    There are many events suggesting that he does love her. But how long can he deny it?

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    Re: ZeKi still in run to win?!?!

    Post by Duskola on Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:46 pm

    nina wrote:All the above questions MUST be answered … because an interpretation OWES to be able to explain ALL the relevant scenes/thoughts/emotions/actions and not only some isolated scenes that may be utilized to twist things in our favor!

    I bow down to the VK true master! sFun_hailtheking

    The fact is, that every time I make a Yume theory, I make also counter-theories, to be sure.
    I.e. for the fact Yuuki says to Kaname she had Zero in her heart, that was unexplainable to me, at first.

    But Yuuki resolves this doubt herself, as you said:

    http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/73/27

    "Those excessive words I so childishly said"
    "Even if you don't say so, I would still act that way"
    (That is, f*ck the promise, I didn't need that).

    Thank you to make me notice those panels. Now I'm sure that Yuuki's words were truly Teenage Paranoia lol!

    So, these two panels are not enough to destroy "sated" theory?

    How can Yuuki POV be false? O_o

    And why Zeki don't do counter-theories like Yume? =_=
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    Post by ButterflyWingsx on Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:57 pm

    nina wrote:Bottom line … why she chooses a criminal (according to them), who abandoned her, who broke her heart, with whom she isn’t IN LOVE, who cannot sate her, who destroyed Zero's (hers TRUE LOVE) everything, from whom she is finally free... and NOT the man with whom she is TRULY IN LOVE, who is a good guy, who now doesn’t see her as enemy, who finally has accepted her nature, from whom she now acknowledges his romantic feelings???? O.O

    Or Yuuki is the stupidest girl in the entire world, or the biggest masochist in the world! Razz Razz Razz

    Haha, I ask the same thing why Yuuki insist on being with the man she doesn't love? And well, Zero can't live forever with Yuuki and she fears being alone so she simply want to be with Kaname because he can live forever with her. She has no love for Kaname since she never knew him she only see Kaname as a family and it goes on and on..

    Ironically, no matter how much they claim Yuuki is in love with Zero she has yet to choose Zero or declare her deep love for Zero. Not to mention, there's no 'i love yous' from Zero to Yuuki and vice versa but they are so sure Zeki is in love. Yet, there's 'i love yous' from both Kaname and Yuuki and still they continue to deny Yuuki loves Kaname and that Kaname loves Yuuki because recently Yuuki hasn't said 'I love you' to Kaname. LMAO.

    If Yume say any more "I love yous' it will be played out they both already said it so many times. The love is still there..as if it wasn't obvious. Why does Yuuki see herself belonging to Kaname when she's so in love with Zero?

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    Re: ZeKi still in run to win?!?!

    Post by nina on Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:15 pm

    @Duskola thank you… But what I have formed in my mind is the result of many-many discussions in depths with the members of this forum… I had great interlocutors thus it is a team work
    The master of VK is Hino ... cuz she is the creator of Kaname! (I barely utter his name and I’m practically melting! )
    That says it all!!!! rofl

    As for Yuuki’s words … well this is the natural course of a story … some ambiguities or mysteries at some point owe to be addressed. And I think that’s the purpose of these words…
    It was Yuuki’s inner thought … so I agree ... I cannot find any reason to be dishonest to her own self either! O.O

    ButterflyWingsx wrote:
    nina wrote:Bottom line … why she chooses a criminal (according to them), who abandoned her, who broke her heart, with whom she isn’t IN LOVE, who cannot sate her, who destroyed Zero's (hers TRUE LOVE) everything, from whom she is finally free... and NOT the man with whom she is TRULY IN LOVE, who is a good guy, who now doesn’t see her as enemy, who finally has accepted her nature, from whom she now acknowledges his romantic feelings???? O.O

    Or Yuuki is the stupidest girl in the entire world, or the biggest masochist in the world! Razz Razz Razz

    Haha, I ask the same thing why Yuuki insist on being with the man she doesn't love? And well, Zero can't live forever with Yuuki and she fears being alone so she simply want to be with Kaname because he can live forever with her. She has no love for Kaname since she never knew him she only see Kaname as a family and it goes on and on..

    Ironically, no matter how much they claim Yuuki is in love with Zero she has yet to choose Zero or declare her deep love for Zero. Not to mention, there's no 'i love yous' from Zero to Yuuki and vice versa but they are so sure Zeki is in love. Yet, there's 'i love yous' from both Kaname and Yuuki and still they continue to deny Yuuki loves Kaname and that Kaname loves Yuuki because recently Yuuki hasn't said 'I love you' to Kaname. LMAO.

    If Yume say any more "I love yous' it will be played out they both already said it so many times. The love is still there..as if it wasn't obvious. Why does Yuuki see herself belonging to Kaname when she's so in love with Zero?

    rofl rofl … then apparently there is no LT since Yuuki turned into her true nature … so where are we disagreeing all these years??? Razz

    And may I assume that they have skipped the pages where Yuuki yearned for Kaname (her words not mine) and said “I do want to become a vampire and live with you” when she was still a human???
    Back then she wasn’t a coward neither she was thinking the difference not only regarding the lifespan but in EVERYTHING… huh?

    Too bad for them but as I have said many times the actual script provides the answers … not us.
    But I do not know if I should laugh or be sad about such comments … I think the later though … so much negativism and effort to deconstruct a story certainly ain’t good indication…





    "... I want to fall down with you to the very farthest depths ... taint me too Kaname"



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    Re: ZeKi still in run to win?!?!

    Post by Duskola on Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:10 pm

    nina wrote:@Duskola thank you… But what I have formed in my mind is the result of many-many discussions in depths with the members of this forum… I had great interlocutors thus it is a team work

    Yes, and this team work is really wonderful! I hope I can make my own little contribution ;)

    But, finally, do you know what's really funny about all this? Haters' comments, theories founded on nothing, and so on.

    It's the fact that if you really like Zero character, you can't simply confine him in a (invented) LT. His role will really be - according to me - much, much more important than "Oh well I suffered but in the end I will passively take Yuuki after Kaname's death". He's an active character, he wants to find a reason to live, a sense to what he's become. This is the real sense of his personality. How can you hope he will simply act as a teenage puppet?

    He's the KNIGHT. Damn. He's a fighter. Not some kind of love beggar.

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    Post by kanachanimmortal on Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:20 am

    Duskola wrote:
    nina wrote:@Duskola thank you… But what I have formed in my mind is the result of many-many discussions in depths with the members of this forum… I had great interlocutors thus it is a team work

    Yes, and this team work is really wonderful! I hope I can make my own little contribution ;)

    But, finally, do you know what's really funny about all this? Haters' comments, theories founded on nothing, and so on.

    It's the fact that if you really like Zero character, you can't simply confine him in a (invented) LT. His role will really be - according to me - much, much more important than "Oh well I suffered but in the end I will passively take Yuuki after Kaname's death". He's an active character, he wants to find a reason to live, a sense to what he's become. This is the real sense of his personality. How can you hope he will simply act as a teenage puppet?

    He's the KNIGHT. Damn. He's a fighter. Not some kind of love beggar.


    exactly he is not a love beggar at all.he is a knight and will fight to save the queen but queen should also have some role.i hate her being in always protection of kaname or zero.
    zero definitely has a role to play and i hope it will be positive and not contributing in kaname's death because i hate to say but i fear that maybe yuuki will decide to kill kaname.

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