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      Post by The Chrysalis Whispers on Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:08 pm

      So i have heard a lot of people say that Kaname and Zero have a lot of similarities. Also the last few chapters also suggested the same. do you think that Kaname and Zero are same? If so then how and could this be a coincidence or is it another to anticipate?
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by juliet on Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:41 pm

      What do you mean "same"? Can you clarify the similarities that you see, to clear the picture a bit, please?






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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by The Chrysalis Whispers on Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:43 pm

      Um, well... same as in their behavior and attitude, also the changes of their lives... I wanted you to tell me in what things they were similar, lol
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by Akaruisama on Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:35 pm

      There aren't some similarities between them. Sometimes they act similar and they are both so much in pain. I'm sure they both have no trust in people because they was hurted many times. It can call them introverts. But that is all.

      Kaname act very calmly, he never shows his feelings to others and he cannot open himself to them. He has lived for many years, he knows vampire's nature so he doesn't trust them. But he is very good leader, he shows respect to people. He can also show his love to Yuuki, he can be very gentle, understanding and tender to her. He realises his plans and doesn't act without consideration, he is sensible but he is also unpredictable.

      Zero is rebellious guy who cannot show his love, he is very hot-tempered, he act without consideration althought now it seems he is going to change.. Very Happy
      Zero suffered a lot but he still has a little experience comparing with Kaname.

      Hino Matsuri wrote that she had wanted to draw them opposite. Perhaps in thei characters too...
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by juliet on Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:10 pm

      Akaruisama wrote:There aren't some similarities between them. Sometimes they act similar and they are both so much in pain. I'm sure they both have no trust in people because they was hurted many times. It can call them introverts. But that is all.

      Kaname act very calmly, he never shows his feelings to others and he cannot open himself to them. He has lived for many years, he knows vampire's nature so he doesn't trust them. But he is very good leader, he shows respect to people. He can also show his love to Yuuki, he can be very gentle, understanding and tender to her. He realises his plans and doesn't act without consideration, he is sensible but he is also unpredictable.

      Zero is rebellious guy who cannot show his love, he is very hot-tempered, he act without consideration althought now it seems he is going to change.. Very Happy
      Zero suffered a lot but he still has a little experience comparing with Kaname.

      Hino Matsuri wrote that she had wanted to draw them opposite. Perhaps in thei characters too...

      Τhey do seem in the same secretive mood lately even though Zero just acts that way about his feelings (but perhaps they have not changed and that much so there is nothing secretive there, we already seen him having problems).

      Things that I can see really common among them is like that:
      they both need a purpose to go on...Kaname has Yuuki and Zero has his hate or his objective (as Ichirou at the grave mentioned which I have not understand and which is it)...but yes they both need fuel to go on, no matter how they call it...

      And another thing is that they both defend the weaks (you may not believe it but yes we saw Kaname acting like that and supporting the hunters even though he had lost an important person to him), respecting things...

      They both fight for the good even though they act out of personal reasoning for that (as I mentioned above) but they do not harm anyone in reality...






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      Post by The Chrysalis Whispers on Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:27 pm

      Wow, Juliet i never knew Kaname was so kindhearted.
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      Yea, he was.... not sure if he is now.
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by juliet on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:16 pm

      The Chrysalis Whispers wrote:Wow, Juliet i never knew Kaname was so kindhearted.
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      Yea, he was.... not sure if he is now.

      Ha? Why who did he really hurt that did not really deserve to, Rido? Shizuka? The council? As a friend of mine says all that he did was on his way to protect...

      But anyway yes his means can be dark and secretive. But you never answered your post, are they alike? Zero is turning secretive as well though and at the special chapter, he had tha glance again...to tell you the truth wasn't that a vampire look? Very sexy indeed. Twisted Evil






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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by Akaruisama on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:48 pm

      They are both handsome and untalkative... and suffering a lot like Gothe's Werter :roll:

      Zero is a good person who want to kill vampires, because his life has been broken by one of them. It is not because of his cruelty, but his way of thinking, he sees happiness and safety of people in destroying of vampire's society.

      Kaname is kindharted( It is nothing to be suprised explosive ) bot he is also determined and logical. The goal is more important for him that the way of setting his objective. He calculates his moves like good chess players but his goal is creatin a better world.

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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by The Chrysalis Whispers on Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:21 am

      juliet wrote:
      The Chrysalis Whispers wrote:Wow, Juliet i never knew Kaname was so kindhearted.
      :sFun_Nahnahnab
      Yea, he was.... not sure if he is now.

      Ha? Why who did he really hurt that did not really deserve to, Rido? Shizuka? The council? As a friend of mine says all that he did was on his way to protect...

      But anyway yes his means can be dark and secretive. But you never answered your post, are they alike? Zero is turning secretive as well though and at the special chapter, he had tha glance again...to tell you the truth wasn't that a vampire look? Very sexy indeed. Twisted Evil

      Well, in my view, he is evil... lol
      I think they are alike a bit, but no way is Zero a love deprived, love hungry evil dude.. oopsiesss ooooh ooooh ooooh
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      Post by Bloodredhead on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:45 pm

      I can see some sililarities with zero and kaname.

      Both of them have been through some form of trauma. Zero lost his parents and was chanaged into a creature he had been brought up to mistrust and kill. Kaname lost his adopted parents and he also lost people who were close to him back in his nacestor days. They both know the feeling of loss, to lose family and people close to them.

      Zero was betrayed by ichiru the night his parents died, and i have a feeling kaname has been betayed aswell.

      They both dont let people in easily. They both shoulder their pain on their own. They both want to protect their loved ones and their ideals. They both have a goal they wish to achieve.

      So in some ways they are similar but they are very different in many ways. They have very different personalities and do things very differently.
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by Howl4fun on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:47 pm

      An interesting similarity between them is that they both had a scenario were they tried to kill their master, but realized in shock that they couldn't.

      Zero and Shizuka:
      http://www.mangareader.net/104-2120-3/vampire-knight/chapter-16.html
      http://www.mangareader.net/104-2120-4/vampire-knight/chapter-16.html

      Kaname and Rido:
      http://www.mangareader.net/104-2164-20/vampire-knight/chapter-38.html
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by Anneliezz on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:06 am

      hmm
      ofcourse there are the similarity's that are already mentioned by others, but this topic kinda reminds me of the situation with the blood tablets
      kain noticed before (dunno wich chapter) that kaname was taking a huge amount of blood tablets, when he just lost his parent and yuuki
      now kaito noticed the same thing about zero
      so i guess the situation zero is in now, and the situation kaname used to be in, are the same
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      Kaname and Zero

      Post by jayashree on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:26 am

      Well first i should say i am a fan of kaname and to all the fans of both kaname and zero please put your differences aside and think of what Kaname and Zero have in common and how they can relate to each. To the fans who love both kaname and zero you guys are welcome here too


      EXAMPLE:I am a fan of kaname and and one think he and zero share is that they both know true pain they both know how it feel to be alone and the feeling of despair and anxiety





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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by caela on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:30 am

      lol, I know the answer to this one: they are in love with the same person. (I love giving the obvious answer!)


      hmm...seriously? Both are loners who have concrete plans (unclear to us) for the future. Both have had human parents (hunters count as human, right?) and I think both don't like being vampires (Kaname, IMO, seems to not like being a vampire, just not as strongly as Zero)
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by mabel on Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:26 am

      Both are very arrogant and they both distance themselves from people
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by zeroyuuki666 on Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:51 pm

      caela wrote:lol, I know the answer to this one: they are in love with the same person. (I love giving the obvious answer!)


      hmm...seriously? Both are loners who have concrete plans (unclear to us) for the future. Both have had human parents (hunters count as human, right?) and I think both don't like being vampires (Kaname, IMO, seems to not like being a vampire, just not as strongly as Zero)
      I agree with you comepletely
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      Re: Kaname and Zero... same?!~

      Post by Katherine on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:11 pm

      caela wrote:lol, I know the answer to this one: they are in love with the same person. (I love giving the obvious answer!)


      hmm...seriously? Both are loners who have concrete plans (unclear to us) for the future. Both have had human parents (hunters count as human, right?) and I think both don't like being vampires (Kaname, IMO, seems to not like being a vampire, just not as strongly as Zero)

      absolutely correct

      both have feelings for yuuki, they may differ but I think both of them have strong feelings towards her

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