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    Can Sara Be Related to the Ancestor Lady?

    Post by neosolaris12 on Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:24 am

    **ATTENTION SPOILERS FROM CHAPTER 67!!***

    Sara Shirabuki = Ancestor Pureblood Woman???

    Soooo this was just a thought I had after reading the latest chapter. I mean, we see how devious and threatening Sara-sama is to the other purebloods, and she is quite clever than what the others think. Hanadagi-sama was a bit surprised that she was able to take Ouri-sama's powers so easily to break through his barrier. Even if he says she's good at deception, I feel like there is something else that makes her more powerful and pushes her to be the top of all purebloods; the great queen of all vampires. Plus she's obsessed about finding Kaname's weakness. And the ancestor lady...well, I don't know if she was powerful of all vampires but her death did bring about the ultimate weapon to kill vampires. And she had a pretty close relation to Kaname. I don't know what could go wrong for the two to become rivals, but these are just my theories.

    And one last additional thought...if in case it is true that Sara is probably the resurrection of the ancestor woman, then could Kaname already have known that? Kaname said he had an original plan that he must follow now and few chapters ago, Kaname did tell Yuuki that "one person cannot be replaced by another. This is why is so hard to say goodbye." Is his original plan then to destroy the evilness of Sara and make her realize her "good" past? Because he may have loved her and doesn't want to let her go? Hmmmmm...

    I don't know, maybe my theories are completely ludicrous and I'm just over-thinking things (which I do best Very Happy). But what do you think? Possible?
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    Re: Can Sara Be Related to the Ancestor Lady?

    Post by juliet on Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:05 pm

    hi neosolaris, a question: do you like the ancestor lady? Don't worry about the crazy theories, don't you see me? LOL I do it all the time.

    Irrelevant I was reading in the fanbook Sara's Shirabukis profile and she appears to be a little older than Kaname. Also she appears to be all over Kaname.

    Respects: The progenitor
    Taste in men: Kaname
    Well there is a woman who knows what she wants :don't speak: .

    I am certain though that she learned from Takuma (poor Takuma :flush: I am still mourning his loss) that Kaname is the ancestor and she might came up with all that crazy theories about becoming the Queen.

    If Hooded woman and her are related my eyes... I will go :sFun_crazy3: ( I like neither of them). But with VK I never say never...

    I remember rumours saying that she (the hooded woman) might be related to Zero because of the horse and the open color hair...

    By the way the fanbook mentions the word "progenitor" not founder, so progenitor in a way all vampires are related coming from one ancestor? the way they have put it in the fanbook is confusing to tell you the truth..we know that they first vampires evolved from the change climate so who is the progenitor? The ancestor lady or Kaname? I can't even make out.






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    Post by Akaruisama on Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:26 am

    I think she is not a relative of ancestor. This woman resembles Yuuki rather than Sara. But is is possible that ancestor and Shirabuki's founder were sisters or sibilings. Sara could be one of their descendants. I hope not Embarassed
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    Post by nuitetoile21 on Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:38 am

    oh I hope you are wrong. really if scenario turns this wasy I will be very dissapointed. Sara - ancestor??NO WAY!!
    oh and I have and an fact that ''destroys''(i am sorry for the word, i can't think any other now) your theory: ancestor wanted to procted humans - and we saw how sara using them. couldn't be the same person! their ideologies are very different!
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    Post by neosolaris12 on Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:08 am

    Hiii Juliet Very Happy Mmmm, I don't really have an opinion on the ancestor woman. She's dictative and pushy towards Kaname (which makes me hate her) but also believes in a unified world and respects human beings (plus she was against the purebloods raising armies by turning humans into vampires) so in a way, I guess it's a fifty-fifty like and dislike. What about you? Do you despise her to the extreme? haha.

    Ah that's interesting. I don't have the fanbook so that's mostly new information to me, but it's funny how she says her taste in men is Kaname. Lol, so she's obsessed over him simply because he's an ancestor? And let me fast forward to your last statement about who is the progenitor? Well if Sara respects the progenitor and yearns for Kaname, there could be a slight possibility that he's the progenitor. But then again,an easy answer is never what Hino-sensei puts in her story, so maybe not. And you have to admit, there are sOOoooo many theories that one can develop from VK.

    For instance, if people say the ancestor lady is related to Zero 'cause of the horse (Lily?) and hair, then does that mean Zero has some vampire ancestry in him? A pureblood ancestry? Then what does that tell us about the other hunters? Do they have some vampire ancestry too or are their ability to use the weapons just derive from "feeding" on vampires many years ago? And what about Kaein Cross? He seems to have lived for a very long time and has some mysterious past we don't know about. Is he related to Zero or the ancestor? Anything about him that relates to the past? And do you see how I am going soooo off topic? lol!

    So with your question on a progenitor...I'm a bit confused with that too. If there is one source from which the vampires were born, then I'm not sure if it's either Kaname or the ancestor lady. I thought they were just like any other pureblood that were born at that time, but with different humanitarian ideals (which is another thing to note: what makes them different thinkers than their kind?). But then if all the purebloods were born at a certain time frame from different regions, where did they come from? Did they come from human mothers? And a BIG question: How can a climate change make someone immortal? (I can understand mutation can result in them being monsters but everlasting life?). That question irks me too. It's kind of weird when you think about it. I'm going to say some human woman made a pact with the devil and gave birth to them. Maybe he's the progenitor lol.

    Sorry if I'm spilling all these questions, but it's fun to discuss these practical/psychological questions. That's why VK is a fun read. I like stories that screws with your brain. The sequel to my first VK fanfic, "Refugee" does that ...screws with your brain and makes you think and anticipate. Also, I'm hoping to do a manga like Hino-sempai's VK someday, although it's more about (don't laugh) spirituality and the divine power.
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    Post by neosolaris12 on Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:32 am

    nuitetoile21 wrote:oh I hope you are wrong. really if scenario turns this wasy I will be very dissapointed. Sara - ancestor??NO WAY!!
    oh and I have and an fact that ''destroys''(i am sorry for the word, i can't think any other now) your theory: ancestor wanted to procted humans - and we saw how sara using them. couldn't be the same person! their ideologies are very different!

    Yes, I think I will be completely horrified myself if they are the same person. I just hope I'm wrong!

    Ah yes, that DOES destroy my theory, and I did mention that as one of the many things that may be a downside for it to be possible, but assume another possibility (and this may be assuming too much) that the ancestor lady wasn't "protecting" humans from purebloods but was preventing the purebloods from gaining too much power (so she could later have it for herself like Sara wants). Perhaps her ideals are not as nice as we think and Kaname didn't know that until now. I'm only saying this because Sara seems completely determined to gather the pureblood's power. What makes her so special and powerful above all the other purebloods? Even if the ancestor and Sara have opposite ideals, they do behave somewhat similarly: authoritative, pushy etc. Could it be that the ancestor lady killed herself to let the hunters finish most of her work and found another way to return to continue her "goal"? I'm saying this all on a whim without supportive facts. It was just something I had to put out there and perhaps it's completely impossible. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.


    And here's something on the interesting side: It's funny that she's one of those purebloods who have a "goal" in mind rather than those who get bored with their immortality and kill themselves from madness. So she wants all the power, destroy the human race and be queen ultimatum. But then what? A reign must have its end or boredom ensues. If she doesn't have children to take over, then Sara's kingdom will break for sure.
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    Re: Can Sara Be Related to the Ancestor Lady?

    Post by nina on Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:06 pm

    neosolaris12 wrote:**ATTENTION SPOILERS FROM CHAPTER 67!!***

    Sara Shirabuki = Ancestor Pureblood Woman???

    I can't see how Sara could be reincarnation of the ancestor. confused Yes the hooded woman was a very pushy-bossy lady and had leadership abilities but further than that I can't find any similarities. Their ideologies as nuit pointed out are completely opposite.

    neosolaris12 wrote:
    So with your question on a progenitor...I'm a bit confused with that too. If there is one source from which the vampires were born, then I'm not sure if it's either Kaname or the ancestor lady. I thought they were just like any other pureblood that were born at that time, but with different humanitarian ideals (which is another thing to note: what makes them different thinkers than their kind?). But then if all the purebloods were born at a certain time frame from different regions, where did they come from? Did they come from human mothers? And a BIG question: How can a climate change make someone immortal? (I can understand mutation can result in them being monsters but everlasting life?). That question irks me too. It's kind of weird when you think about it. I'm going to say some human woman made a pact with the devil and gave birth to them. Maybe he's the progenitor lol.

    About the progenitor ...

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    As we can see from ancestor's words, some humans gave birth the first vampires, the so called ancestors, but they were scattering all over the world. After the climate changes they started to look for their own kind and gathered all together. Hooded woman's parents loved and protected her, but we don't know anything about Kanames parents (or the parents of the other ancestors-vampires). Did they loved him? Did they accepted him? My guess is that for some reason Kaname had to leave his family, cuz through many scenes we saw him to wondering around all alone and probably for many many years to the extend he "forgot" his own name. However he liked humans and he was trying to help them and that was the common base with the hooded woman.
    So Kaname isn't the progenitor of the vampire race and we don't know for sure if he is the progenitor of the Kuran clan. If he is then my guess is that he must have had children with the hooded woman, mostly because the Kurans are the only PBs who have the ability to use the anti-vampire weapons!
    Then, after the sacrifice of the ancestor he became the leader through the war between the PBs, he won the battle and became the King. sFun_hailtheking


    I'm not sure if he was the king ... I don't know why but I have a feeling that maybe he wasn't, but the hooded woman she must has a connection with the Kurans ... how? scratch Hino has the answer ...
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    Post by juliet on Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:09 pm

    nuitetoile21 wrote: ancestor wanted to procted humans - and we saw how sara using them. couldn't be the same person! their ideologies are very different!


    One of the strongest points why these two woman could not be related, you are certainly right there.

    [quote="neosolaris12"]Hiii Juliet Very Happy Mmmm, I don't really have an opinion on the ancestor woman. I guess it's a fifty-fifty like and dislike. What about you? Do you despise her to the extreme? haha. [quote]

    To be honest I share your feelings, mm..perhaps a 60% dislike a 40% like. I did not like her exchange plan and that so bosy attitude, on the other hand yes...More over I did not like that she in a way became the main reason that Kaname stained his hands (and he can't stop ever since LOL)... Forget the last part...I never said it LOL affraid

    Well if Sara respects the progenitor and yearns for Kaname, there could be a slight possibility that he's the progenitor. But then again,an easy answer is never what Hino-sensei puts in her story, so maybe not. And you have to admit, there are sOOoooo many theories that one can develop from VK.

    More than soooooooooooo many I can say, that's so fun about VK, it let's your fantasy go..I tend to think that he is the progenitor/now it's confusing. I will add a post about the mentions of it in the fanbook...but to tell you the truth it's confusing as it is no matter the fanbook info.

    For instance, if people say the ancestor lady is related to Zero 'cause of the horse (Lily?) and hair, then does that mean Zero has some vampire ancestry in him? A pureblood ancestry? Then what does that tell us about the other hunters? Do they have some vampire ancestry too or are their ability to use the weapons just derive from "feeding" on vampires many years ago? And what about Kaein Cross?


    Shouldn't they have fangs though? scratch if related...this idea stopped me several times into throwing myself into theories about the hunters. But if I had to choose between Zero or Kaien be related to the hooded woman, I would take Kaien...(the hair LOL and his so mysterious past LOL)...

    And a BIG question: How can a climate change make someone immortal? (I can understand mutation can result in them being monsters but everlasting life?). That question irks me too. It's kind of weird when you think about it. I'm going to say some human woman made a pact with the devil and gave birth to them. Maybe he's the progenitor lol.

    Yes tell me about it, immortality is a tough question, there. If you just put the blame on change climate, it does sound quite impossible...

    The sequel to my first VK fanfic, "Refugee" does that ...screws with your brain and makes you think and anticipate. Also, I'm hoping to do a manga like Hino-sempai's VK someday, although it's more about (don't laugh) spirituality and the divine power.

    Almira right? I was just hoping for some justice to come along lol! Teasing you...I would also like to do manga, come to think about it but it's a very hard work..wish you accomplish it.

    Even if the ancestor and Sara have opposite ideals, they do behave somewhat similarly: authoritative, pushy etc. Could it be that the ancestor lady killed herself to let the hunters finish most of her work and found another way to return to continue her "goal"? I'm saying this all on a whim without supportive facts. It was just something I had to put out there and perhaps it's completely impossible. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. If she doesn't have children to take over, then Sara's kingdom will break for sure.

    Now wouldn't that be a twist? And I would so much enjoy (Hi,hi, Twisted Evil Kaname taking both of them down) To tell you the truth, the way ancestor was killed was quite peculiar or to easy, I was expecting that at least they would competely devour her after her heart was tossed in the furnace or she would have several times to injure herself to stop herself each time from regenerating anf taking multiple blows..
    anyway the overall idea that there is another prominent danger outhere (like Rido was in the previous arc) but we have not seen it yet is also in my mind theories..as you say so we will see

    nina wrote: but we don't know anything about Kanames parents (or the parents of the other ancestors-vampires). Did they loved him? Did they accepted him? My guess is that for some reason Kaname had to leave his family, cuz through many scenes we saw him to wondering around all alone and probably for many many years to the extend he "forgot" his own name. However he liked humans and he was trying to help them and that was the common base with the hooded woman.
    So Kaname isn't the progenitor of the vampire race and we don't know for sure if he is the progenitor of the Kuran clan. If he is then my guess is that he must have had children with the hooded woman, mostly because the Kurans are the only PBs who have the ability to use the anti-vampire weapons!
    Then, after the sacrifice of the ancestor he became the leader through the war between the PBs, he won the battle and became the King. sFun_hailtheking


    I'm not sure if he was the king ... I don't know why but I have a feeling that maybe he wasn't, but the hooded woman she must has a connection with the Kurans ... how? scratch Hino has the answer ...[/color]

    It is stated that Kaname was the progenitor (official volumes) of the Kurans but we are not sure who the progenitor of the vampire race as it is mentioned -progenitor- is.

    I also have the feeling that Kaname must have been rejected from his parents and wondered around that much that lost his own memory of his familly (poor guy). I think that he did not manage to become the King but his descedants did. Also just to say my opinion on that I have the feeling that kaname and the ancestor had no descedants together...could Hino skip such an event? and the ancestor would live her own kids to go and sacrifice herself or burden Kaname (who he wanted as a fighter) with the burden of kids as well? affraid


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    Post by nina on Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:18 pm

    juliet wrote:
    It is stated that Kaname was the progenitor (official volumes) of the Kurans but we are not sure who the progenitor of the vampire race as it is mentioned -progenitor- is. I also have the feeling that Kaname must have been rejected from his parents and wondered around that much that lost his own memory of his familly (poor guy). I think that he did not manage to become the King but his descedants did. Also just to say my opinion on that I have the feeling that kaname and the ancestor had no descedants together...could Hino skip such an event? and the ancestor would live her own kids to go and sacrifice herself or burden Kaname (who he wanted as a fighter) with the burden of kids as well? affraid

    Why aren't we sure about the progenitor of the vampire race? According to hooded woman's words, the progenitor of the vampires was also humans:
    " all of us were born from humans parents after all .... even though we happened to be born as a very different form of creatures instead" ??? :craziness...: ❓

    If Kaname is the progenitor of the Kurans and he didn't had offsprings with the ancestor woman then how or with whom he created the Kuran clan??? And why only the Kurans have the ability to use anti-vampire weapons ??? Some sort of connection have to be there,between the ancestor- woman and the Kurans. scratch

    juliet wrote:
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    Kaname to the hunters: Here, you go and kill these fools that want to steal your lives and make them pay for their crimes... I will join you as soon as :sEm_blush8: change diapers to my daughter, learn to my son to walk, bathe the babies, put them to sleep, prepare their milk-blood any case, swip the house to be clean (baby's hygiene) and...here hold that gun in case the little brats make me go crazy :sFun_crazy3: i would hate to have an accident...

    rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl sFun_hailbig





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    Post by juliet on Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:50 pm

    Why aren't we sure about the progenitor of the vampire race? According to hooded woman's words, the progenitor of the vampires was also humans:
    " all of us were born from humans parents after all .... even though we happened to be born as a very different form of creatures instead" ??? :craziness...: ❓


    I tend to think that the term 'progenitor of vampires" is a general term like we say the progenitor of today's dog is the wolf...that does not mean that a single wolf existed in the past but many..so Kaname, the hooded-lady and all others (Hanadagi as shown was also an ancestor) are the progenitors of the vampire race. I hope that this is it because it solves my "term" issues.

    If Kaname is the progenitor of the Kurans and he didn't had offsprings with the ancestor woman then how or with whom he created the Kuran clan??? And why only the Kurans have the ability to use anti-vampire weapons ??? Some sort of connection have to be there,between the ancestor- woman and the Kurans. scratch
    Kaname is the progenitor of the Kuran clan that's stated but we do not know how he did it...vampires do not multiply themeselves, that's a question that Hino has to answer and Yuuki does not care to ask sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 (in my imagination we have not seen the Kuran ancestor yet..)







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    Post by nina on Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:49 pm

    juliet wrote:
    I tend to think that the term 'progenitor of vampires" is a general term like we say the progenitor of today's dog is the wolf...that does not mean that a single wolf existed in the past but many..so Kaname, the hooded-lady and all others (Hanadagi as shown was also an ancestor) are the progenitors of the vampire race. I hope that this is it because it solves my "term" issues.


    Exactly my point! Many humans gave birth the first vampires ... the ancestors, as the hooded woman, Kaname(ancestor), Hanadagi and more others we don't know! So all the ancestors-vampires came from humans. There isn't only one progenitor!!! Then some of the ancestors made match only with their kind and they maintained pure from human blood, aka PBs. At least this is what I figured out so far ...


    juliet wrote:
    Kaname is the progenitor of the Kuran clan that's stated but we do not know how he did it...vampires do not multiply themeselves, that's a question that Hino has to answer and Yuuki does not care to ask sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 (in my imagination we have not seen the Kuran ancestor yet..)


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    Post by nina on Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:14 pm

    Ok now I have read your info from the fanbook and according to that, there was only one progenitor .... but still this theory is contradictable with hooded woman's statements about her parents ... she was talking about fragile beings who tried to protect her ... sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2

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    Post by neosolaris12 on Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:15 pm

    Okay, so back to the Sara deal. I admit that there are more impossibilities for her and ancestor lady to be alike. I don't doubt that opinion at all, but there could be some kind of relation. It's not a coincidence that Kaname decided to show Yuki his past right at the point Sara declared herself to want to be queen. And Hino-sempai would not show something without it having some importance. And ancestor lady has big importance. Sara seems to be like the ultimate evil here, and Kaname knows he has to leave Yuuki (whether temporarily or forever) to face her. I'm not saying that they are related now, I just see a connection to the time. I mean, did Sara wanted to be queen before and Kaname and the ancestor woman got in the way? And if she is taking pureblood's blood and hearts now, is she going to use their combined power to overpower the hunter weapons? (she cant make weapons with the hearts because vampires can't use hunter weapons as it seems). There's alot to think about, and Hino-sempai just adds more unexplained scenes that I can't relate to the other mysterious scenes lol.


    I tend to think that the term 'progenitor of vampires" is a general term like we say the progenitor of today's dog is the wolf...that does not mean that a single wolf existed in the past but many..so Kaname, the hooded-lady and all others (Hanadagi as shown was also an ancestor) are the progenitors of the vampire race. I hope that this is it because it solves my "term" issues.

    It makes sense to use it as a general term, but I've heard it used in plural form more often when it talks about species (like progenitorS of cats/progenitorS of dogs). Progenitor alone I think of one person (like Adam is the progenitor of all human beings in the Bible). I may be wrong and it's being directing to ALL the pureblood vampires and not just one. If they came around the same time and there were no vampires before them, then they are the progenitors. BUT if it IS talking about ONE progenitor, then that's a mystery. If Sara is older than Kaname, then he can't be the progenitor (he's just the ancestor of HIS family). The ancestor lady could be the one, but it doesn't support the fact that the first vampires all showed up at once and were born from human parents (again if they were progenitors, that would make it plural). So I'll just stick with your opinion.

    And another question when concerning the humans that gave birth to the "progenitor(s)". So it's the climate change's fault that it occurred? It led to some form of evolution or mutation? But that's where it gets confusing a little bit. Did the evolution just "happen"? How did it dictate which humans would give birth to those beings? (because not ALL humans gave birth to vamps). I don't want to say it's evolution because there are still humans who give birth to humans. It's not like their race has died out yet to make way for the vampires only. And pureblood vampires just don't "pop" out from human couples anymore. It's funny that modern day vampires don't concern themselves with those "special" humans that started their race. Because if you think about it, the humans WERE the FIRST progenitors above all.

    If Kaname is the progenitor of the Kurans and he didn't had offsprings with the ancestor woman then how or with whom he created the Kuran clan??? And why only the Kurans have the ability to use anti-vampire weapons ??? Some sort of connection have to be there,between the ancestor- woman and the Kurans. scratch
    Kaname is the progenitor of the Kuran clan that's stated but we do not know how he did it...vampires do not multiply themeselves, that's a question that Hino has to answer and Yuuki does not care to ask sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 sFun_banghead2 (in my imagination we have not seen the Kuran ancestor yet..)

    Lol, Juliet, I love your frustrated emoticon! rofl Darn it Yuki, why can't you just ask all these questions like a normal person??? Her one statement after waking up from Kaname's memories is (summed up) "its okay, you're still my hot stuff, I don't give a damn what happened so I'm just not going to ask any questions" GUHHHH :x But then again, Kaname would just ignore her curiosity anyway, like always. Double GUHHHH!! :x :x

    So back to that quote, I would think that if Kaname is the progenitor of the Kuran clan, he MUST have had offspring with someone (Juuri and Haruki had children so we know giving birth is how vampires are "created"). And I'm guessing few other purebloods did the same thing (since we have a list of pureblood descendants from the Touma and Hio family). According to the social class, the noble vampires like Ichijo came from purebloods who at some point gave birth through a human, so they have both mixed blood. And the level A's and Ds or what not came through I guess humans turned to vampires who had offsprings with humans (or something like that). But who Kaname did it with we have yet to know. If it's the ancestor woman, it would make the most sense because the Kurans are the only ones who can use the weapons (which means his offsprings have the woman's blood in them). I still wonder who his first child was, or why Yuuki out of all Kurans is his only reason for living, and also when the Kurans started to take their role as kings.
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    Re: Can Sara Be Related to the Ancestor Lady?

    Post by juliet on Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:55 pm

    @Neosolaris I posted the answer concerning the progenitor in this thread; http://vampireknight.all-up.com/t407-vampires-and-hunters-from-the-official-fanbook#4529

    It's better since there are the extracts there about the ancestors and the hunters...

    Okay, so back to the Sara deal. I admit that there are more impossibilities for her and ancestor lady to be alike. I don't doubt that opinion at all, but there could be some kind of relation. It's not a coincidence that Kaname decided to show Yuki his past right at the point Sara declared herself to want to be queen. And Hino-sempai would not show something without it having some importance. And ancestor lady has big importance. Sara seems to be like the ultimate evil here, and Kaname knows he has to leave Yuuki (whether temporarily or forever) to face her. I'm not saying that they are related now, I just see a connection to the time. I mean, did Sara wanted to be queen before and Kaname and the ancestor woman got in the way? And if she is taking pureblood's blood and hearts now, is she going to use their combined power to overpower the hunter weapons? (she cant make weapons with the hearts because vampires can't use hunter weapons as it seems). There's alot to think about, and Hino-sempai just adds more unexplained scenes that I can't relate to the other mysterious scenes lol.

    M, in the fanbook is mentioned that she is older than Kaname but I think that sticks to their current obvious age (unless Hino is such a dimplomat)....

    But as I told you before with VK I exclude nothing. There is a tremendous possibility that Sara could herself be of the past or she seems to know more for her age of what she is supposed to like Hanadagi's have been sleeping for so many years but she knew how to break the fortress seal or made a very good scheme in order to kill Ouri.

    So she is quite smart for her age. Even Hanadagi was suprised that Ouri was beaten by a young girl like this. If she is like this now how is Sara going to be if she reaches Kaname's level of expertise? Under this view your question about Sara is something that I also find odd in her ability to think that much in such a young age...

    Think Yuuki Vs Sara..






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    Post by neosolaris12 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:47 pm

    Almira right? I was just hoping for some justice to come along lol! Teasing you...I would also like to do manga, come to think about it but it's a very hard work..wish you accomplish it.

    Oh yes, justice does come along. I said it was going to be a happy ending Very Happy I'm almost done, just 1 or 2 chapters to go. There is something I'm going to mention at the end which would debate whether I should carry on the story to another sequel, but if I did, I would have to twist the canon around alot more once again, so I thought I should leave the end to people's interpretation. I don't know, we'll see how readers react. I'll post mine here when I'm done. Fanfiction.net is a great site for readers to read, but some comments (sorry to say) lack in constructive criticism, and that's kind of what I need in order to improve myself so I can write my own original work someday. Your fanfic (which I read and I think it's beautiful!) has nice constructive reviews, so maybe I'll post mine here soon too. And thanks! It's going to be tough work creating a manga,and I need more people to help me, but its one of my goals so hopefully it would come around well Smile
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    Re: Can Sara Be Related to the Ancestor Lady?

    Post by juliet on Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:03 pm

    neosolaris12 wrote:
    Almira right? I was just hoping for some justice to come along lol! Teasing you...I would also like to do manga, come to think about it but it's a very hard work..wish you accomplish it.

    Oh yes, justice does come along. I said it was going to be a happy ending Very Happy I'm almost done, just 1 or 2 chapters to go. There is something I'm going to mention at the end which would debate whether I should carry on the story to another sequel, but if I did, I would have to twist the canon around alot more once again, so I thought I should leave the end to people's interpretation. I don't know, we'll see how readers react. I'll post mine here when I'm done. Fanfiction.net is a great site for readers to read, but some comments (sorry to say) lack in constructive criticism, and that's kind of what I need in order to improve myself so I can write my own original work someday. Your fanfic (which I read and I think it's beautiful!) has nice constructive reviews, so maybe I'll post mine here soon too. And thanks! It's going to be tough work creating a manga,and I need more people to help me, but its one of my goals so hopefully it would come around well Smile

    Αh thannk you about that sLo_BigBearHug Aren't VK fanfics difficult to do? I know I am out of subject off topic but can't help it. Almira had a lot of sensitivity along with a hard core down to earth personality, a good combination that I liked very much as a character. You convinced me about her existence and her feelings, and I wanted her back also!!! lol!

    If you have any ideas or need help pm me, I sure enjoy reading and writing that much, keep on and let us know. I really enjoyed it.






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    Post by neosolaris12 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:35 pm

    Αh thannk you about that sLo_BigBearHug Aren't VK fanfics difficult to do? I know I am out of subject off topic but can't help it. Almira had a lot of sensitivity along with a hard core down to earth personality, a good combination that I liked very much as a character. You convinced me about her existence and her feelings, and I wanted her back also!!! lol!

    If you have any ideas or need help pm me, I sure enjoy reading and writing that much, keep on and let us know. I really enjoyed it.

    Yeah I know what you mean! But I enjoyed doing this one more than any other fanfic I've written (which was only 3 and they were left incomplete), mostly 'cause I got intensely creative when it came to introducing a new race and adding all their origins, political system and interaction with the vamps. There's a fictional twist I put on Kaname's origin (not as a vampire, and you'll see what I mean). And thank you so much! I enjoyed writing about my OC as well. In fact, I got her from my original story (I nitpick most things out of my own works to use as OCs in fanfics). She's not a werecat in that one, but more of a complex mysterious character without a past and future: a teacher and a messenger, but also human with virtues and desires. I made her less than how she is in the fanfic to fit the situations. But in any rate, she does return in the sequel...so all is well! Very Happy

    And of course we'll discuss more! If you have any ideas, don't hesitate to share! I love creative exchanges

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