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    Zeki or Yume?

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    Post by juliet Mon May 31, 2010 6:51 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    If you like Zero or Kaname then I guess you are either Zeki or Yume. Which one do you prefer to see and why?

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    Post by blackvampira Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:37 am

    i am a zeki fan all the way yuki and zero should be together their relationship has so much drama Zeki or Yume? - Page 7 36224405 Zeki or Yume? - Page 7 2554657431
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    Post by sweetsolace Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:52 am

    Lisi wrote:
    Win-chan wrote:Well, I think it's kind of a double wammy against the Kaname Yuuki relationship with the fact that he's in her brother's body, but he's the spirit of her great-great-great-great-who knows how many greats grandfather. I don't know, call me crazy, but it just doesn't sit too well with me. I would never go after my grandchild.

    If they would be humans I would think so too, but they are vampires!
    Incest is a bad thing for humans but not for vampires .
    Vampires don't get genetic diseases.
    So i don't see the problem here.
    They are vampires and should not be compared with humans.

    good. I agree with you.

    I think fans are being too picky or extremist and purist, not to mention bias, when they are "grossing" out over two FAKE siblings, only blood related VAMPIRE couple, AND in a fiction manga, or being too overdramatic in trying to "relate" themselves to that couple. rofl even if its to say they are related by blood and Kaname might be the greatgreat grandfather, what kind of grandfather is that HANDSOME or young? rofl rofl really, but if one tried hard enough and use their overactive imagination that even reads and sees something between the lines, they will imagine Kaname has graying hair, wrinkles, spots on his face, and is gnarly old enough to suit the word "eeew gross relationship!" rofl rofl yes, the grandfather-granddaughter relationship becomes more clear. Razz Razz
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    Post by Divine Rose Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:11 am

    sweetsolace wrote:
    Lisi wrote:
    Win-chan wrote:Well, I think it's kind of a double wammy against the Kaname Yuuki relationship with the fact that he's in her brother's body, but he's the spirit of her great-great-great-great-who knows how many greats grandfather. I don't know, call me crazy, but it just doesn't sit too well with me. I would never go after my grandchild.

    If they would be humans I would think so too, but they are vampires!
    Incest is a bad thing for humans but not for vampires .
    Vampires don't get genetic diseases.
    So i don't see the problem here.
    They are vampires and should not be compared with humans.

    good. I agree with you.

    I think fans are being too picky or extremist and purist, not to mention bias, when they are "grossing" out over two FAKE siblings, only blood related VAMPIRE couple, AND in a fiction manga, or being too overdramatic in trying to "relate" themselves to that couple. rofl even if its to say they are related by blood and Kaname might be the greatgreat grandfather, what kind of grandfather is that HANDSOME or young? rofl rofl really, but if one tried hard enough and use their overactive imagination that even reads and sees something between the lines, they will imagine Kaname has graying hair, wrinkles, spots on his face, and is gnarly old enough to suit the word "eeew gross relationship!" rofl rofl yes, the grandfather-granddaughter relationship becomes more clear. Razz Razz

    Haha! So humorously said, but so true. rofl rofl Great post! sFun_cheerleader2 sFun_cheerleader2

    Indeed, that is it why people say they are gross. And it seems to me they are just trying to convince themselves Yume don't stand a chance. And oh my! Kaname as an old man! Oh my! Yes, definitely becomes more clear. rofl rofl rofl
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    Post by sweetsolace Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:24 am

    Divine Rose wrote:
    sweetsolace wrote:
    Lisi wrote:

    If they would be humans I would think so too, but they are vampires!
    Incest is a bad thing for humans but not for vampires .
    Vampires don't get genetic diseases.
    So i don't see the problem here.
    They are vampires and should not be compared with humans.

    good. I agree with you.

    I think fans are being too picky or extremist and purist, not to mention bias, when they are "grossing" out over two FAKE siblings, only blood related VAMPIRE couple, AND in a fiction manga, or being too overdramatic in trying to "relate" themselves to that couple. rofl even if its to say they are related by blood and Kaname might be the greatgreat grandfather, what kind of grandfather is that HANDSOME or young? rofl rofl really, but if one tried hard enough and use their overactive imagination that even reads and sees something between the lines, they will imagine Kaname has graying hair, wrinkles, spots on his face, and is gnarly old enough to suit the word "eeew gross relationship!" rofl rofl yes, the grandfather-granddaughter relationship becomes more clear. Razz Razz

    Haha! So humorously said, but so true. rofl rofl Great post! sFun_cheerleader2 sFun_cheerleader2

    Indeed, that is it why people say they are gross. And it seems to me they are just trying to convince themselves Yume don't stand a chance. And oh my! Kaname as an old man! Oh my! Yes, definitely becomes more clear. rofl rofl rofl

    rofl rofl Kaname as an old man... rofl if I see him as a "grandfather" I would think someone's exaggerating a joke. rofl when technically its just his soul that's old, and his body is that of a 19 year old. rofl but ofc everything becomes possible if push comes to shove. Razz
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    Post by Divine Rose Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:32 am

    sweetsolace wrote:
    Divine Rose wrote:
    sweetsolace wrote:

    good. I agree with you.

    I think fans are being too picky or extremist and purist, not to mention bias, when they are "grossing" out over two FAKE siblings, only blood related VAMPIRE couple, AND in a fiction manga, or being too overdramatic in trying to "relate" themselves to that couple. rofl even if its to say they are related by blood and Kaname might be the greatgreat grandfather, what kind of grandfather is that HANDSOME or young? rofl rofl really, but if one tried hard enough and use their overactive imagination that even reads and sees something between the lines, they will imagine Kaname has graying hair, wrinkles, spots on his face, and is gnarly old enough to suit the word "eeew gross relationship!" rofl rofl yes, the grandfather-granddaughter relationship becomes more clear. Razz Razz

    Haha! So humorously said, but so true. rofl rofl Great post! sFun_cheerleader2 sFun_cheerleader2

    Indeed, that is it why people say they are gross. And it seems to me they are just trying to convince themselves Yume don't stand a chance. And oh my! Kaname as an old man! Oh my! Yes, definitely becomes more clear. rofl rofl rofl

    rofl rofl Kaname as an old man... rofl if I see him as a "grandfather" I would think someone's exaggerating a joke. rofl when technically its just his soul that's old, and his body is that of a 19 year old. rofl but ofc everything becomes possible if push comes to shove. Razz

    That's for sure. rofl rofl And he is definitely an old soul. A REALLY old soul. A REALLY REALLY old soul. rofl rofl Oh yeah! Everything is possible if it does. Oh my! Hillarious! I can't stop laughing! rofl rofl rofl rofl
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    Post by AmayaLee Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:30 am

    im a Zeki fan all the way i know kaname loves her and all but then again zeros been there for her in hard times and i feel he loves her just as much............ but id rather have Zero for myself lol Zeki or Yume? - Page 7 4021393694
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    Post by Akaruisama Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:24 am

    I'm Yume fan but I have to admitt that my heart began to beating faster when I saw in 75 chapter Zero touchs Yuuki's head like before. I was exating althought I would prefer to see Yuuki with Kaname's arms Smile
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    Post by caela Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:02 am

    Zeki: Yuuki smiles at Zero more, its as simple as that for me.

    Divine Rose and Sweetsolace: don't worry, at least as far as myself, I don't think the age difference between Yuuki and Kaname is a problem for me. Besides, I thought ladies usually like older men anyway.

    Amayalee and Akaruisama: yay, we see things the same way!
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    Post by Shoujo-Zo18 Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:47 pm

    I'm a prud Zeki fan ^^
    Well things are complicated at the moment, although they're starting to look better:) but i believe that with the old yuuki she was able to just be herself more around Zero. I've glimpsed the old yuuki a couple times in recent chapters and i hope that she begins to act like herself again soon ^^ Yuuki's not able to be herself around zero right now because of all that's happened, but they still care for each other and that's something ^^
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    Post by SassyKnight Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:23 am

    Zeki! I ADORE Zero and Yuki together! Ok....Zero has suffered ALOT, and I know that Kaname has too...But I just feel more for Zero. I mean, Kaname only used Zero as a pawn to get to Yuki. And I can;t really imagine Zero as a....Loner xD LOL He wouldnt be able to fall for anyone else...Well thats just how I see it...And Kaname is just....Scary. Here what I HOPE will happen in the end:

    Zero + Yuki (YES) xD

    Kaname + Ruka Smile Or Seiren + Kaname xD Or Ruka + Akatsuki

    Aidou Hanabusa + Yori xD LOL

    Senri + Rima

    And IDK about Akatsuki, Takuma, Maria and the rest... xD
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    Post by KuranPrince Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:00 am

    Saffron161 wrote:Zeki! I ADORE Zero and Yuki together! Ok....Zero has suffered ALOT, and I know that Kaname has too...But I just feel more for Zero. I mean, Kaname only used Zero as a pawn to get to Yuki. And I can;t really imagine Zero as a....Loner xD LOL He wouldnt be able to fall for anyone else...Well thats just how I see it...And Kaname is just....Scary. Here what I HOPE will happen in the end:

    Zero + Yuki (YES) xD

    Kaname + Ruka Smile Or Seiren + Kaname xD Or Ruka + Akatsuki

    Aidou Hanabusa + Yori xD LOL

    Senri + Rima

    And IDK about Akatsuki, Takuma, Maria and the rest... xD


    I hate to tell you the truth, Saffron... but you're completely wrong about it. You see, Kaname didn't use Zero as a pawn to get to Yuuki (and as a matter of fact, Kaname & Yuuki are engaged pureblood vampires). The truth is he had chosen Zero to kill Yuuki's evil uncle Rido (Kaname's master). Furthermore, Kaname isn't as scary as Rido so please do not confuse Kaname with Rido OK? And I hate to tell you this but... Ruka is already taken with Kain.
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    Post by caela Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 am

    KuranPrince
    Ruka is already taken with Kain.

    They are officially a couple? ummm....since when?

    (I do agree that Kaname and Ruka is never going to happen)

    Saffron161 wrote:
    Zeki! I ADORE Zero and Yuki together! Ok....Zero has suffered ALOT, and I know that Kaname has too...But I just feel more for Zero. I mean, Kaname only used Zero as a pawn to get to Yuki. And I can;t really imagine Zero as a....Loner xD LOL He wouldnt be able to fall for anyone else...Well thats just how I see it...And Kaname is just....Scary. Here what I HOPE will happen in the end:

    Zero + Yuki (YES) xD

    Kaname + Ruka Or Seiren + Kaname xD Or Ruka + Akatsuki

    Aidou Hanabusa + Yori xD LOL

    Senri + Rima

    And IDK about Akatsuki, Takuma, Maria and the rest... xD


    KuranPrince:
    I hate to tell you the truth, Saffron... but you're completely wrong about it. You see, Kaname didn't use Zero as a pawn to get to Yuuki (and as a matter of fact, Kaname & Yuuki are engaged pureblood vampires). The truth is he had chosen Zero to kill Yuuki's evil uncle Rido (Kaname's master). Furthermore, Kaname isn't as scary as Rido so please do not confuse Kaname with Rido OK? And I hate to tell you this but... Ruka is already taken with Kain.

    Perhaps calling someone scary isn't part of normal conversation, but its an opinion (well, I don't see how Kaname is scary either, unless you've been a bad vampire in the council or you are a bad pureblood). Maybe Saffron also thinks Rido is more scary? Maybe Saffron is scared by brown hair?

    anyways...I'm still a Zeki fan Cool (token effort at contributing to thread).
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    Post by SassyKnight Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:24 pm

    Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero. Then it would be a nice happy ending with her and Zero...Well...IDK I just want Yuki to be with Zero... Razz Im sortof pissed of with Zero though....He should talk some sense into Yuki and at least tell her that he LOVES HER....Then maybe she'll change....Its possible that Yori might go with Zero...But they havent really been talking much, and I cant really see Zero being with ANYBODY else except the TRUE girl that he loves....YUKI <3
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    Post by KuranPrince Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:13 pm

    caela wrote:Perhaps calling someone scary isn't part of normal conversation, but its an opinion (well, I don't see how Kaname is scary either, unless you've been a bad vampire in the council or you are a bad pureblood). Maybe Saffron also thinks Rido is more scary? Maybe Saffron is scared by brown hair?

    anyways...I'm still a Zeki fan Cool (token effort at contributing to thread).


    Caela, you should know that "...Kaname is just....Scary" isn't considered an opinion at all, but it's simply called character bashing. The rules state that you're not allowed to bash a character that you truly hate and Saffron (a newbie) isn't allowed to bash characters. And do not attempt to tell me that you're defending that newest member either.



    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero. Then it would be a nice happy ending with her and Zero...Well...IDK I just want Yuki to be with Zero... Razz Im sortof pissed of with Zero though....He should talk some sense into Yuki and at least tell her that he LOVES HER....Then maybe she'll change....Its possible that Yori might go with Zero...But they havent really been talking much, and I cant really see Zero being with ANYBODY else except the TRUE girl that he loves....YUKI <3


    Saffron... you should know that you shouldn't underestimate Hino's character. Kaname may be the most powerful pureblood vampire, but he's trying to create a peaceful world for Yuuki (HIS FIANCEE) to walk freely from danger.

    You should look at characters who freaks you out the most like Sara. You should know that she wants to become queen and make the humans suffer. In a brief conclusion-- Sara wants vampire domination, Kaname wants peace on earth... simple as that.

    Personally, I don't think Yuuki would ever go out with Zero after Kaname ends his life. If her fiance is gone, her heart will shatter into a thousand pieces and end her life. In fact, Kaname & Yuuki have been together from the very beginning. They share their good and bad times together... and some humor... along with their parents (married pureblood siblings Haruka & Juuri). They were separated after Rido brutally murdered Haruka while Haruka's wife Juuri had to sacrifices her life by sealing Yuuki's powers, erases her memories, and turned into a powerless human being. Kaname was in despair for the past 10 years since Yuuki had no memory. The only thing that his fiancee remembers on that snowy day that he saved her from a bad vampire.

    After numerous bites from the Level-D vampire/vampire hunter (childhood friend and foster sibling) Zero, Yuuki loses control. Kaname have decided to break the seal from his fiancee and shares his blood to turn her back into a pureblood vampire. If Yuuki continues to stay human, the fangs inside her would have devoured her and loses control completely and loses sanity. 6 months later, Yuuki have decided to tell him that she accepts her own path-- her true nature. There's a huge possibility that Yuuki will stop Kaname from ending his fate and instead fight for their love against the one pureblood vampire who've used the blood tablets on vampires and create an army to attack the humans.

    I understand that you're disappointed about Zero since he have pulled the gun on Kaname's fiancee. The hunter needs to apologize to her before his life ends. Can't blame Zero because Shizuka (a pureblood vowing vengeance) had murdered his parents, devouring his twin brother Ichiru, and pointing his gun on Yuuki three times.

    There's also a possibility that Zero may end up with Maria. But we'll just wait and find out. As of right now, Sara could be winning the war before it's begun.

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    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero. Then it would be a nice happy ending with her and Zero...Well...IDK I just want Yuki to be with Zero... Razz Im sortof pissed of with Zero though....He should talk some sense into Yuki and at least tell her that he LOVES HER....Then maybe she'll change....Its possible that Yori might go with Zero...But they havent really been talking much, and I cant really see Zero being with ANYBODY else except the TRUE girl that he loves....YUKI <3

    Apparently, the only chance for zeki to happen is for kaname to die and yuuki to be a human.
    in different circumstances, zeki, as a romantic pair, has no chance. Razz
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    Post by Divine Rose Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:27 pm

    KuranPrince excellent post! cheers cheers cheers cheers

    I totally agree with both you and Aya-chan. cheers cheers cheers cheers

    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero. Then it would be a nice happy ending with her and Zero...Well...IDK I just want Yuki to be with Zero... Razz Im sortof pissed of with Zero though....He should talk some sense into Yuki and at least tell her that he LOVES HER....Then maybe she'll change....Its possible that Yori might go with Zero...But they havent really been talking much, and I cant really see Zero being with ANYBODY else except the TRUE girl that he loves....YUKI <3

    So, you're saying the only chance for Yuuki to be with Zero is for Kaname to die and for her to turn back into something she's truly not? (I know she says the 10 years as a human wasn't true (I can't remember the exact words at the moment) , that still she wasn't her true self, for she was born a PB vampire.) Then I'm not seeing the possibility for Zeki at all in this. Razz

    Also, just because if Kaname does dies that doesn't necessarily mean a Zeki ending.

    I can't see Yuuki turning human. And if Kaname did sacrifice himself to do that, Yuuki would never forgive herself for being the cause of his death. She would never forget him.

    Also, it makes no sense for Yuuki to turn back human because where would the co-existence be? It would be pretty hard if impossible to happen with Yuuki as a human and Kaname dead. Doesn't matter if Zero is a vampire, the vampires wouldn't listen to him. Co-existence would be thrown out the window if this ever happened.

    Also, it's too dangerous to turn Yuuki back to being a human. Everybody knows she's a PB, and with her as a human, that would be the perfect opportunity to kill her.
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    Post by KuranPrince Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:46 pm

    Divine Rose wrote:KuranPrince excellent post! cheers cheers cheers cheers

    I totally agree with both you and Aya-chan. cheers cheers cheers cheers

    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero. Then it would be a nice happy ending with her and Zero...Well...IDK I just want Yuki to be with Zero... Razz Im sortof pissed of with Zero though....He should talk some sense into Yuki and at least tell her that he LOVES HER....Then maybe she'll change....Its possible that Yori might go with Zero...But they havent really been talking much, and I cant really see Zero being with ANYBODY else except the TRUE girl that he loves....YUKI <3

    So, you're saying the only chance for Yuuki to be with Zero is for Kaname to die and for her to turn back into something she's truly not? (I know she says the 10 years as a human wasn't true (I can't remember the exact words at the moment) , that still she wasn't her true self, for she was born a PB vampire.) Then I'm not seeing the possibility for Zeki at all in this. Razz

    Also, just because if Kaname does dies that doesn't necessarily mean a Zeki ending.

    I can't see Yuuki turning human. And if Kaname did sacrifice himself to do that, Yuuki would never forgive herself for being the cause of his death. She would never forget him.

    Also, it makes no sense for Yuuki to turn back human because where would the co-existence be? It would be pretty hard if impossible to happen with Yuuki as a human and Kaname dead. Doesn't matter if Zero is a vampire, the vampires wouldn't listen to him. Co-existence would be thrown out the window if this ever happened.

    Also, it's too dangerous to turn Yuuki back to being a human. Everybody knows she's a PB, and with her as a human, that would be the perfect opportunity to kill her.



    Thank you, Divine Rose. I'm sure that Aya-chan and I are very appreciated with your replied comment.

    And to be quite honest, I really don't see a ZeroxYuuki ending. And if it was a prefect ending, Yuuki would have become a double-edged sword... in other words (after Zero continues drinking Yuuki's blood), she would have lost her sanity with no chance of turning back to her normal self.

    Yuuki will remain a pureblood vampire and fulfill her duty as a Kuran and prevent Kaname from ending his fate. Although they're #3 in the top 50 manga/anime couples (according to an Asian forum), they're still #1 in my books.
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    Post by Divine Rose Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:02 pm

    KuranPrince wrote:
    Divine Rose wrote:KuranPrince excellent post! cheers cheers cheers cheers

    I totally agree with both you and Aya-chan. cheers cheers cheers cheers

    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero. Then it would be a nice happy ending with her and Zero...Well...IDK I just want Yuki to be with Zero... Razz Im sortof pissed of with Zero though....He should talk some sense into Yuki and at least tell her that he LOVES HER....Then maybe she'll change....Its possible that Yori might go with Zero...But they havent really been talking much, and I cant really see Zero being with ANYBODY else except the TRUE girl that he loves....YUKI <3

    So, you're saying the only chance for Yuuki to be with Zero is for Kaname to die and for her to turn back into something she's truly not? (I know she says the 10 years as a human wasn't true (I can't remember the exact words at the moment) , that still she wasn't her true self, for she was born a PB vampire.) Then I'm not seeing the possibility for Zeki at all in this. Razz

    Also, just because if Kaname does dies that doesn't necessarily mean a Zeki ending.

    I can't see Yuuki turning human. And if Kaname did sacrifice himself to do that, Yuuki would never forgive herself for being the cause of his death. She would never forget him.

    Also, it makes no sense for Yuuki to turn back human because where would the co-existence be? It would be pretty hard if impossible to happen with Yuuki as a human and Kaname dead. Doesn't matter if Zero is a vampire, the vampires wouldn't listen to him. Co-existence would be thrown out the window if this ever happened.

    Also, it's too dangerous to turn Yuuki back to being a human. Everybody knows she's a PB, and with her as a human, that would be the perfect opportunity to kill her.



    Thank you, Divine Rose. I'm sure that Aya-chan and I are very appreciated with your replied comment.

    And to be quite honest, I really don't see a ZeroxYuuki ending. And if it was a prefect ending, Yuuki would have become a double-edged sword... in other words (after Zero continues drinking Yuuki's blood), she would have lost her sanity with no chance of turning back to her normal self.

    Yuuki will remain a pureblood vampire and fulfill her duty as a Kuran and prevent Kaname from ending his fate. Although they're #3 in the top 50 manga/anime couples (according to an Asian forum), they're still #1 in my books.

    Thanks KuranPrince.

    That is very true. If Yuuki does turn human and it does have a Zeki ending, Yuuki will just turn back into a PB with Zero drinking her blood. She would have to stay away from Zero to stay human, cause I doubt he could resist from ever biting her. Razz

    Yeah, I don't see the Zero/Yuuki ending at all either. And with all of this into consideration, it doesn't look possible logically at all.

    Yes, they are my number #1 canon couple too. wub
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    Post by Bloodredhead Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:41 pm

    Saffron161 wrote:Zeki! I ADORE Zero and Yuki together! Ok....Zero has suffered ALOT, and I know that Kaname has too...But I just feel more for Zero. I mean, Kaname only used Zero as a pawn to get to Yuki. And I can;t really imagine Zero as a....Loner xD LOL He wouldnt be able to fall for anyone else...Well thats just how I see it...And Kaname is just....Scary. Here what I HOPE will happen in the end:

    I'd like to correct you on one very important statement you made. Kaname did not use Zero to get Yuuki.
    1) Yuuki was already in love with Kaname before Zero came along.
    2) Kaname had Zero as a Knight to protect Yuuki, nothing more, nothing less.
    3) If he wanted to 'get yuuki' as you say no guy or girl would let the competition get close to the person of their affection.

    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero.

    If yuuki did choose zero, due to kaname being dead, then that makes a default ending, and i honestly dont see how any zeki fan could be happy with that if she is choosing Zero EVENTUALLY, because kaname is dead and he is the only option for some happiness. If i was a zeki fan i would want yuuki to choose zero over kaname, because she loves him more and wants to be with him, not because he is the only option. Also that would just prove how yuuki loves kaname more than zero if she only goes with him due to kaname being dead.

    KuranPrince wrote:
    Personally, I don't think Yuuki would ever go out with Zero after Kaname ends his life. If her fiance is gone, her heart will shatter into a thousand pieces and end her life. In fact, Kaname & Yuuki have been together from the very beginning. They share their good and bad times together... and some humor... along with their parents (married pureblood siblings Haruka & Juuri). They were separated after Rido brutally murdered Haruka while Haruka's wife Juuri had to sacrifices her life by sealing Yuuki's powers, erases her memories, and turned into a powerless human being. Kaname was in despair for the past 10 years since Yuuki had no memory. The only thing that his fiancee remembers on that snowy day that he saved her from a bad vampire.

    After numerous bites from the Level-D vampire/vampire hunter (childhood friend and foster sibling) Zero, Yuuki loses control. Kaname have decided to break the seal from his fiancee and shares his blood to turn her back into a pureblood vampire. If Yuuki continues to stay human, the fangs inside her would have devoured her and loses control completely and loses sanity. 6 months later, Yuuki have decided to tell him that she accepts her own path-- her true nature. There's a huge possibility that Yuuki will stop Kaname from ending his fate and instead fight for their love against the one pureblood vampire who've used the blood tablets on vampires and create an army to attack the humans.

    Agreed.

    I'd like to add on this point KuranPrince and say that making yuuki back into a human means there could be a chance of her going mad again, and her vampire side breaking through. Also as a human she'd be in more danger as the Vampire society know of her exitance now, she wont be able to esacape from her linerage. Yuuki becoming human is a step back and brings more danger to her than solves problems unless all vampires didnt exist(which i dont see happening).
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    Post by Divine Rose Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:47 pm

    Bloodredhead wrote:
    Saffron161 wrote:Zeki! I ADORE Zero and Yuki together! Ok....Zero has suffered ALOT, and I know that Kaname has too...But I just feel more for Zero. I mean, Kaname only used Zero as a pawn to get to Yuki. And I can;t really imagine Zero as a....Loner xD LOL He wouldnt be able to fall for anyone else...Well thats just how I see it...And Kaname is just....Scary. Here what I HOPE will happen in the end:

    I'd like to correct you on one very important statement you made. Kaname did not use Zero to get Yuuki.
    1) Yuuki was already in love with Kaname before Zero came along.
    2) Kaname had Zero as a Knight to protect Yuuki, nothing more, nothing less.
    3) If he wanted to 'get yuuki' as you say no guy or girl would let the competition get close to the person of their affection.

    Saffron161 wrote:Haha Yeah I know KuranPrince, But something about Kaname just freaks me out....No offence to Kaname fans, but I really hope he sacrifices himself and turns Yuki back into a human. Then Kaname would be gone and Yuki would EVENTUALLY forget about him and go with Zero.

    If yuuki did choose zero, due to kaname being dead, then that makes a default ending, and i honestly dont see how any zeki fan could be happy with that if she is choosing Zero EVENTUALLY, because kaname is dead and he is the only option for some happiness. If i was a zeki fan i would want yuuki to choose zero over kaname, because she loves him more and wants to be with him, not because he is the only option. Also that would just prove how yuuki loves kaname more than zero if she only goes with him due to kaname being dead.

    KuranPrince wrote:
    Personally, I don't think Yuuki would ever go out with Zero after Kaname ends his life. If her fiance is gone, her heart will shatter into a thousand pieces and end her life. In fact, Kaname & Yuuki have been together from the very beginning. They share their good and bad times together... and some humor... along with their parents (married pureblood siblings Haruka & Juuri). They were separated after Rido brutally murdered Haruka while Haruka's wife Juuri had to sacrifices her life by sealing Yuuki's powers, erases her memories, and turned into a powerless human being. Kaname was in despair for the past 10 years since Yuuki had no memory. The only thing that his fiancee remembers on that snowy day that he saved her from a bad vampire.

    After numerous bites from the Level-D vampire/vampire hunter (childhood friend and foster sibling) Zero, Yuuki loses control. Kaname have decided to break the seal from his fiancee and shares his blood to turn her back into a pureblood vampire. If Yuuki continues to stay human, the fangs inside her would have devoured her and loses control completely and loses sanity. 6 months later, Yuuki have decided to tell him that she accepts her own path-- her true nature. There's a huge possibility that Yuuki will stop Kaname from ending his fate and instead fight for their love against the one pureblood vampire who've used the blood tablets on vampires and create an army to attack the humans.

    Agreed.

    I'd like to add on this point KuranPrince and say that making yuuki back into a human means there could be a chance of her going mad again, and her vampire side breaking through. Also as a human she'd be in more danger as the Vampire society know of her exitance now, she wont be able to esacape from her linerage. Yuuki becoming human is a step back and brings more danger to her than solves problems unless all vampires didnt exist(which i dont see happening).

    Awesome post Blood! Outstanding! cheers cheers cheers cheers
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    Post by SassyKnight Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:28 am

    Wow...Lots of replies xD Well now I'm sortof understanding it a bit more now...Thanks everyone!

    Well like you guys said, Yuki would probably stop Kaname from sacrificing himself, and hopefully she might realize her feelings for Zero (I hope) But if she does choose Kaname...IDK what would become of Zero....I JUST CANT SEE IT! Zero and Maria Razz Zero and Yori....I doubt that, but its possible....

    But I really think Yuki (Pureblood Vampire) and Zero (Vampire and Vampire Hunter) Is MUCH more interesting than PB and PB. With Zero and Yuki there is alot more drama and suspense. But with Yuki and Kaname, there is some danger, but it probably would be very lovey-dovey.

    BTW Sorry about bashing Kaname....I didn't really mean it that way, I AM a new member though. And I hope Sara is killed by Kaname Smile But...Its just so hard to predict! Matsuri Hino likes to keep us in the dark alot Razz

    ALSO KANAME SAYS THAT HE NO LONGER CARES FOR YUKI 0_0 It said that on Vampire Knight Wiki...This is what it said...

    Kaien confronts Kaname who's outside Isaya's house.
    During the confrontation, Kaname states to Kaien and anyone who's around that 'He no longer wants Yuki to be with him. and it's okay for him if Kaien will take her away from him. He also say he doesn't care for Yuki anymore.

    HOWS THAT? ZERO ALL THE WAY!!! LOVE U ZEKI FTW! Heres some pics of chapter 75 of Kaname and Kaien. ALSO!!! You know the Hooded Woman? She is Kaname's TRUE lover...The first woman who he ever fell in love with....



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    Saffron161 wrote:But if she does choose Kaname...IDK what would become of Zero....I JUST CANT SEE IT! Zero and Maria Razz Zero and Yori....I doubt that, but its possible....

    he can remain a bachelor. Its not too hard to imagine. Yuki is not meant to be with him in many ways, its like a bird falling in love with a fish

    But I really think Yuki (Pureblood Vampire) and Zero (Vampire and Vampire Hunter) Is MUCH more interesting than PB and PB. With Zero and Yuki there is alot more drama and suspense. But with Yuki and Kaname, there is some danger, but it probably would be very lovey-dovey.

    more drama and suspense but thats it. Logic wise they fail in many areas as a couple.
    Class: pureblood- immortal, level d-not immortal
    if zero is a level d he will forever drink from yuki which doesnt make it equally balanced
    zero is also overly indebted to yuki, he will always want to repay her, which may be mistaken as love
    yuki will not grow as a person if she's with zero since they just keep "supporting" each other, she'll "always be herself" with him which is being the idiotic naive Yuki, there's no challenge in wanting to develop for the other person, yuki will be stunted as she is, while with kaname she is challenged to prove herself and be his equal.
    yuki does not love zero as much and the way she is attached to kaname will eternally bound him to him. she treats him more like a brother and does so until now.
    zero has to overcome his hate fully before he can accept yuki and before he can even begin to love her. his love is conditional and has terms that must be met for it to happen.
    zero is a hunter that has a built in instinct to hate vampires including yuki which means even if he has accepted her he will eventually hate her every now and then.
    zero is immature and yuki is also immature, its a childish fantasy pairing circling around each other on a common need, they both need someone mature to make them grow up.
    its based on need to survive, not need to love.
    its based on taboos and forbidden acts, not rational.
    another thing, the manga keeps emphasizing that purebloods can only be with purebloods, and the fate of level e's is to die. for zeki to happen it must defy the entire manga, and thats where FANFICTION comes in. or if another zeki fan becomes a mangaka she will probably recreate zeki love story in its own time where the conditions are not ALL against them.
    yuki had accepted her fate as pureblood, while zero stayed with it. nothing has changed, their fate as incompatible is sealed, they're like incompatible blood types that if you mix them together that person will suffer and die, however "happy" they are .


    Yuki does not even say she loves Zero, so how can they be considered a couple in the first place?
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    Post by jayashree Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:33 am

    Kaname and yuuki i am a fan 4 life
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    Post by SassyKnight Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:44 am

    ZERO IS NOT A LEVEL "E" GET IT RIGHT Smile
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    Post by KuranPrince Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:37 am

    Saffron161 wrote:ZERO IS NOT A LEVEL "E" GET IT RIGHT Smile

    You don't have to scream out loud, Saffron. We all know that Zero isn't Level-E--



    YET!!!!!! The only way for Zero to get rid of his fall of becoming an uncontrollable Level-E permanently is to directly drink Shizuka's blood. The problem is she's already dead.



    Saffron161 wrote:ALSO KANAME SAYS THAT HE NO LONGER CARES FOR YUKI 0_0 It said that on Vampire Knight Wiki...This is what it said...

    Sorry, but the Vampire Knight Wiki isn't a very reliable source. rofl Kaname have never said that he no longer cares for Yuuki. We all know that he loves Yuuki and he'll do anything to make their world a more peaceful and harmonious place for both races. If you want a more reliable source than VK Wiki, I strongly suggest you to buy the English translated Vampire Knight volume sets from Shojo Beat.

    Don't get mad just because Kaname & Yuuki Kuran are #3 in the top 50 manga couples and Zero Kiryuu & Yuuki Cross are not on the list, OK? Get over it and move on. Oh... and one last thing--

    Saffron161 wrote:You know the Hooded Woman? She is Kaname's TRUE lover...The first woman who he ever fell in love with....

    You're still denying. Yuuki Kuran is evidently Kaname's TRUE LOVER and she's engaged to him. Get your facts straight!!!!!!


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    Post by soulkeeper_pol Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:42 am

    ALSO KANAME SAYS THAT HE NO LONGER CARES FOR YUKI 0_0 It said that on Vampire Knight Wiki...This is what it said..

    Where does it say that on wiki and I'll go change it to Kaname loves her soooo much even though he had to leave her. ~_^. Nyahahaha

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