Ok I got it ... we were talking about the same thing
… but my reservations are:
1. You connect the two "sinful crimes" ... although are mentioned in the same chapter I'm not sure if they are the same ... it might be a trick from Hino, but certainly isn't a coincidence.
2. Takuma accused Sara after he found out that she turned the president against his will, viz she spoiled the pact between hunters & vampires and also Takuma I think he knows about the research for the tablets, so he might figured what Sara aiming to do in the process or that she already did it.
Seeing it from a distance perhaps (always perhaps) Hino wishes to answer our own questions and provides us the answers to it since kaname-aidou dialogue was reffering to the same sinful crime for which takuma is blaming Sara some pages after (if we can trust the translation).
now according to a more correct translation Kaname did not witnessed but he PARTICIPATED in the most sinful crime in the history, if we take Takuma's interpretion then Hino is providing the answer...he changed people.
Kaname wish to let the senate and Ichiou think that he is ok with their actions, so he could tricked them about Seiren, or even if he did turned her at that time this action wasn't a crime even if Aidou's and Kaname's ideology was different. I don't know the whole idea seems to me very contradictory ... we saw in Kaname's past that he was refused to take blood from humans to the extend of faint ... This idea-refusal is the core of Kaname, even if he suffered tremendously by Yuuki's absence ... but I do noticed that he wasn't "happy" about Aidou's statement. Anyway we aren't even sure if he "witnessed" or "participated" in that crime ...
Akaruisama wrote:It is very interesting theory, but I doubt if turning someone into a vampire even against his will, would be recognise as a crime by vampires. They were so cruel, feeding on humans was something normal for them.
Of course Kaname could change Seiren in this situation, it would be against his morally, but he was forced by Council as they wanted to have him as a puppet, obedient to them.
Aidou are with the monarchy so with Kurans which defended the changing so for the most part of the history "changing" can be seen perhaps as a crime...
Well it was not about Seiren or Yuuki, it was the fact that Kaname had not restored his powers yet and he could not go againts their will, so for the time being he chose to act as a puppet.
Irrelevant to Seiren or not, Kaname states that he shall play along so he did partipate there...perhaps a key to the theory is Shizuka going missing...that was after her attack on Kiryus iF I remember well because the council was hunting her.. (I have to check the dates as it seems that Kaname's crime took place during that period)...
but more than that Aidou's dad says even before that Kaname would not hesitate to sacrifice them all to achieve his plans- a rumour stasted by Ichoiu- Kaname says; If you refraining to the council and Aidou dono corrects him stating that he refers to a "crime" that took place long ago..
If Kaname had to play along with the council to fullfil his plans back then and participated in a sacrifices of human (againts his own family royal believe's and tragic history) isn't that the proof that he is indeed willing to do whatever necessary to achieve his goals> and sacrifice what it takes to achieve his plans (the bigger good) despite the sorrow he fills and even his own beliefs?
another tragic irony here since Aidou dono sacrifice himself a chapter afterwards..as asked by kaname to achieve his goals.
Well as you said this is a theory and a mystery for the time being ... so I hope this time juli you will prove wrong ... cuz I don't like the idea at all :no: :no: :no:
I hope I am right because under the circumstances Nina that's the less it could have happened, after all if Seiren was his sacrifice, she is fine.
And something about the theory for the spoiled tablets … I noticed that everything happened almost synchronously … Sara turned the president and imprisoned him and at the same time we saw Kaname taking the tablets twice (one when Yuuki barged into his room and one when he was talking with Ruka and Akatsuki) and then the blood stain on the floor … All this incidents I think that happened together or almost together … so I was thinking … even if Sara was aiming to spoil the blood tablets, did she had enough time to do it and also to pass them to Kaname ??? Except if Sara’s visit to the president of the pharmacy company was days before the scenes were Kaname take the tablets, but I didn’t get that feeling… (?)
Time element is difficult in Vk but you are right, is as like everything is taking place in the same chapter ...there was a spoiler reffering to Sara's plans even before Yuuki's sleep and delving in Kaname's memories, according to that spoiler Sara's actions are taking place before Yuuki's sleep but the chapter was postponed and we only saw Sara two chapters after that so I am not sure what changed Hino's time plans...we will see, i would be happy to know that Kaname is forcefull as ever but somehow that bleeding at his hand after instantly killing Hanadagi does not convince me...