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    Ups and Downs of Kaname Leaving Yuki?

    Post by oOblackwhiteOo on Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:55 am

    just as it says... to you,
    what are the positives and negatives on kaname leaving yuki?


    for me, its kinda a good thing Kaname left Yuki, ( dont get me wrong, im a 100% Kaname X Yuuki fan :heart: ) because with him around, protecting her and everything, she won't be able to grow... With Kaname around, Yuki can't harness her powers. Come on, don't you wanna see Yuki actually defeating a strong vampire? with Kaname around, she can't learn nor do those things. Yuki is strong; she's a pureblood, she has powers. she needs learn that she can do it.

    the downside to Kaname leaving Yuki is that there's no more lovey-dovey Crying or Very sad , yuki will be very sad Crying or Very sad and finally, ZERO MIGHT TAKE HER AWAY !! Crying or Very sad


    so, what do you think? to you, what are the ups and downs of Kaname leaving Yuki?
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    Post by rumland on Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:44 am

    I am for it, as long as yuuki is being treated as a doll by kaname she will never be his equal, it says that he is giving her a choice on what she wants to do however from what we have seen so far she has no real choice, now that he is gone she will be able to grow and become stronger.

    The problim now is zero trying to keep her safe while hideing it, he went around trying to get other people to get her to stop doing the vampire hunting.
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    Post by juliet on Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:03 pm

    Well it's a positive (that Kaname has left) for Zero's fans because the script can now more develop between Yuuki-Zero's relation and clear their feelings.
    This is also something positive about Yuuki. Because after a long time she can really now remain unaffected by Kaname's love influence. For me she has already decided to be with Kaname and I think that she won't change her mind but support her decision as she already does. I want to hope that this won't change into the future and Yuuki to be represented indecisive and untrustworthy. Kaname's departure should clear these things.
    Also Yuuki can now appreciate and take time to think what Kaname meant to her and how many he did over the time for her. He literally helped her to grow and made her stronger. He protected her when she was in danger and literally it's the first time that he is missing from her life.
    Kaname is a leadership persona so when he is around it's logical to overshadow Yuuki or the other characters in general. So his dissapearance also helps the script to promote the other characters as well.

    What we miss? well its the loving feeling, the romantic scene and of course his air of mystery that follows him. Vampire Knight is not a mystery without Kaname. For Yuuki I think it's negative because a separation is always painful but in the end I think that it will turn good for her. At least she will learn to stand on her own grounds, be more alert of dangers and fight for her ideals.
    I do not think that Kaname's departure in this point was accidental, he saw that her time had come. And he trusts her..






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    Post by Rose on Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:24 pm

    Because after a long time she can really now remain unaffected by Kaname's love influence. For me she has already decided to be with Kaname and I think that she won't change her mind but support her decision as she already does. I want to hope that this won't change into the future and Yuuki to be represented indecisive and untrustworthy. Kaname's departure should clear these things.
    Also Yuuki can now appreciate and take time to think what Kaname meant to her and how many he did over the time for her.

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    that was a great way of seeing things! I also agree abou Zero, maybe things will get a little bit complicated now but it is only to test Yukis love? Is it just me or after learning about Kanmes secret Yuki was excited and happy and in next moment when she found out abot Ruka she became ANGRY!?
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    Post by Akaruisama on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:34 am

    It's a good idea to make Kaname leave Yuuki's side. She has now freedom to act on her will so she is force to grow up already. I think Yuuki is able to be a leader of vampires and make something good for them but she needs a chance to develop her abilities. As one of purebloods, she has natural capacity of ruling others but as a person fostered like normal girl, she is more humanish than the rest of them.

    More important, she depends now on herself, she is not only a doll protected by others. We can see now her true personality. By himself, she can decide what she is feeling for Kaname and Zero and choose one of them.

    I hope Hino will show us not only Yuuki's moves but also Zero's moves so Kaname's. It would be interesting to see their acting and crossing their ways.
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    Post by tunafishsandwich on Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:42 am

    The down is that Yuki misses Kaname very much. She shows it by the way she is so quiet and pensive all the time, and by the way she is pushing for their dream to have a peaceful coexistence by regrouping the night class and leading a peaceful revolution. However, the up of it is that Yuki is becoming a strong woman, while Kaname is able to finish what he's wanted to for a while, so that in the end they can make up and live their happily ever after =)
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    Post by Knightmare on Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:25 pm

    Upside is Kaname left Yuuki. Kaname is no longer held back by Yuuki and is going all out and the story is actually getting livier, both of them were getting pretty dull there for a while. no romance, no action, no tension, all it had was mystery. Now we get more Zero and Yuuki actually moving into action that brings back some familiar faces and some badly needed Zero and Yuuki friendship.

    The downside is now we get to see Yuuki whinging about Zero.

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    Post by Bloodredhead on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:10 pm

    tunafishsandwich wrote:The down is that Yuki misses Kaname very much. She shows it by the way she is so quiet and pensive all the time, and by the way she is pushing for their dream to have a peaceful coexistence by regrouping the night class and leading a peaceful revolution. However, the up of it is that Yuki is becoming a strong woman, while Kaname is able to finish what he's wanted to for a while, so that in the end they can make up and live their happily ever after =)

    absolutly agree.

    yuuki can now become more independant and grow more easily without kaname around. its obvious she misses him terribly but i think its a good thing he left for awhile. he can focus on his mission and she can grow more into a strong woman.

    i think that her growing will help their relationship and make them more equal. so in that sense i see it as a good thing, though i would have prefered them to have been together all the time. they really do look cute together. wub
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    Post by aerah08 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:37 pm

    as for me.. i think kaname do all this thing including his departure to let yuuki decide as to what is she really want.. remember the chapter where yuuki has to drink his blood? http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-13/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html

    he says he already knows what yuuki is really up to.. and her decision is to stay with kaname to protect him.. but i think kaname had sense it already that being with him is not what she had really wanted.. i remember one part when aidou meets up with yuuki when she is at the ground floor..
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2179-25/vampire-knight/chapter-51.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2179-26/vampire-knight/chapter-51.html

    he ask her if she's getting fed by kaname's blood.. to where she answers YES..
    he then says "why you are still hungry?"
    this actually proves that yuuki isn't satisfied with kaname's blood really.. not not being quenched by it.. surely aidou knows that only the blood of the love ones can quenched a vampire thirst.. and he knows yuuki loves kaname.. so he actually somewhat shock by the idea as to why is she being still thirsty? and the proceeding pages proves that yuuki admits in front of kaname that she was indeed not satisfied by it since part of her heart still attached to zero.. remember in the party? when kaname escorting Yuuki inside the ball room.. he cathes yuuki having a glimpse with zero.. same as where they were about to depart at the cross academy.. she was having a glimpse on him before leaving..
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-33723-4/vampire-knight/chapter-54.html

    I think kaname already have that idea that yuuki has a strong attachment with zero.. since they'v been together since they were a child.. the bond between them two becomes stronger when kaname pushes yuuki away for her safety.. remember when he drinks Ruka's blood? zero is the one to confront her, then on she is actually beginning to be close to zero.. though yuuki is in fact inlove with kaname i think she hadn't recognize the fact that she is clinging to zero.. perhaps that is why kaname have said this words..

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-14/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html

    "Yuuki had done so much for me.. and that is enough.." then after a few days he began his journey leaving yuuki in zero's hand.. perhaps he wanted yuuki to search for her true feelings..
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    Post by ShiroiYuki911 on Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:00 am

    I think that one of the positives of Kaname leaving Yuuki is the fact that she can have a chance to get to know herself without the influence of Kaname. There has never really been a proper moment when Yuuki could grow without Kaname guiding her. Even as a human child, she looked up to him as he saved her and was, therefore, her role model.
    Also I think that it gives the story another chance to balance out the love triangle- recently there's been alot of YuMe going on, so I think that it's good that ZeKi is having another go at the spotlight...
    Maybe I'm biased in this view, though, as I'm a ZeKi fan...however, on another note I think that a negative is that this would be an alien feeling for her. Yuuki has always had som eone by her side, whether it was Zero or Kaname, but now Kaname has left and Zero is sworn to kill her one day. If I were her, I'd be feeling lost, but I think she's also trying to not let this new way of living be a burden to her. Or maybe I'm just reading into it too much????
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    Post by Pinacolada on Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:10 pm

    hmmm I think that it could be a "test" which kaname tries to find out how strong their relationship is..1. I agree with areoh08 in the point that kaname give her the chance to find out her true feelingsbut on the other hand I think he is trying to let her doing her own thinks businesse.....to become more confident and to learn how to use her vampire skills better.2.and secondly he assume that something terrible will happen and he gives her the chance to protect everything what she loves...because he knows that she would´n be able to forgive herself If something happen to one of her beloved friends...

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    Post by kashiku on Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:37 pm

    Okay...the downs of Kaname leaving Yuuki is that he leaves her upset and broken and scared at what he did. (Remember what he did before leaving her?) But i think that he leaving her also has its good points...(although i still preer them 2 be together!! makes Kaname happy?)
    Anyway, Yuuki will probably grow stronger if Kaname's not there to protect her all the time. And I guess that Yuuki will have a chance to protect all that she loves (especially Zero as Kaname pretty much hates that guy).
    Am i making sense? i don't think i am...oh well... i just hope that everything turns out okay in the end...=.=
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    Post by Pinacolada on Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:48 pm

    I agree with you kashiku^^ it will turn everything fine in the end and kaname is just folloeing on theorie^^ which my mum has already told me :If you love something !! Let it go!! if it returns to you then it would be yours forever^^
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    Post by rumland on Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:21 pm

    Only problim with that is the kaname is the one that left so that would only apply if yuki was letting kaname go, kaname actualy asked yuki to wait for him in the mansion.
    Hunestly latly I think kaname is trying to get yuki to distance her self from him, only she isn't reacting in the ways he belives she will. First the talk about his tainted hands, then the talk about if she were to leave him he should kill her or she would have to kill him (I was disopointed when he said this), then showing her his past and now leaveing her behind.
    Is it possible that just maybe kaname is afrade of what he might do to yuki in the future and is trying to drive her away or maybe he is afrade what might happen to her by being near him. He realy seems to be trying to drive her away at some points, doing actions he belives will make her lose her feelings for him.
    The only reason I can come up with him doing this is if he plans on dieing in the end.
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    Post by sweetsolace on Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:39 pm

    he wasnt distancing himself O.o he was preparing Yuki for whatever happens next. even yuki realized that Kaname meant for her to realize something (in chapter 66) she thought, "he gave me artemis and allowed me to see his past..." Yuki knows he's up to something, but this is something he doesn't tell, and she's sad because he's hiding things from her. Yuki was also conflicted with many feelings at once, jealousy at seeing the woman in his past, confusion to whats going on esp about the rest of his past which is why she ran on a bad suspicion when she saw Ruka's sad face, and the need to know him better as the man she loves hence the "start over". Kaname agreed to this, but for some reason cancelled it...
    there's obviously still much stuff to explain to yuki and the readers. I do not want to think that Kaname will die simply because of a gut feel or lack of explanation, there were many things left unsaid and hanging, these weren't left unsaid for no reason
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    Post by Pinacolada on Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:52 am

    he just wants to protect her...maybe he thought that the truth just hurts her..and it is better to let her unknown yeah of course it isn´t the right way to hide everything from her instead of giving her the chance to decide how far it would harm her or on which way she would react...I am afraid of that Kaname is starting a war...
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    Post by juliet on Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:48 pm

    I think that a main reason that Kaname did not talk of his plan to Yuuki would be the fact that she would stop him (logically) since Kaname is turning the vampire society against him in a way...placing himself at a danger.

    This was what Aidou's dad was reffering I suppose

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    Now how I interpret this part...Aidou's dad is very well aware of Kaname's plan (even though his part in the plan maybe unknown to him), so he warns Yuuki in an indirect way of what there seems to follow..

    it's sweat that at the end he says but "this is after all the selfish wish of a parent" ...
    it like he declares that this is just his mere opinion and in the same point of view, that of a parent, he had suggested Kaname taking his daughter as a mistress; so in overall his wish might be after all a bit egoistic but still he would like for the sake of safety, things to be preserved the way they are right now.

    So Kaname did not leave Yuuki, went to fulfill his plan, I do not believe that if Yuuki knew about it, she would let him, and I do not believe that if she resisted that much to his plan, he would not give in to her after all.






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    Post by Pinacolada on Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:03 pm

    hmm I don´t understand what his old plan to make his daughter to Kanames misstress has anything in common with the fact that kaname is leaving yuuki for a short period?
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    Post by juliet on Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:13 pm

    it has nothing to do lol...it's just referred by Aidou's dad as an example to Yuuki that his wishes (that of a parent) can be considered egoistic (and so his wish for Yuuki to stop Kaname)...that's the meaning of that reference I believe.






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    Post by sweetsolace on Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:34 pm

    hmm I don´t understand what his old plan to make his daughter to Kanames
    misstress has anything in common with the fact that kaname is leaving
    yuuki for a short period?

    yep this got nothing to do with kaname leaving yuki for a "short period". http://www.mangareader.net/104-58423-8/vampire-knight/chapter-66.html

    it says there, BEFORE I was thinking that my daughter would make a good mistress
    he was just talking about the past Razz
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    Post by Pinacolada on Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:36 pm

    ohh !! okay thank you ,-) but his daughter isn´t soo cute like aido xD
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    Post by rumland on Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:14 pm

    Umm when I said kaname left yuki, I meant left as in went away, not left as in broke up, just to clear that up Razz
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    Post by nina on Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:46 pm

    hmm I don´t understand what his old plan to make his daughter to Kanames
    misstress has anything in common with the fact that kaname is leaving
    yuuki for a short period?


    Mm … I’ll try to explain this part cuz you’re right … as it is Aido-dono’s reference to his daughter it sounds a bit irrelevant with the main conversation. I also had the same question when I read those scans.

    But I have in mind a different version of the particular passage which explains Aido-dono’s words … and I believe is more accurate.

    He says to Yuuki that he now supports her relationship with Kaname and that’s why he doesn’t want them to take the wrong path. << this is the part that it’s not clear from the available scans … his reference to Yuuki-Kaname’s relationship and then brings in their conversation his daughter involvement.

    So my interpretation is…

    His reference to his daughter and his proposition to Kaname to make her his mistress was before he knew the existence of her (Yuuki) hence and made this offer to Kaname. But now as he is well aware of their relationship, acknowledge that this offer was an egoistic wish from a father’s point of view.

    I think it was an indirect “apology” or if you like, an explanation to Yuuki about his previous attitude. He acknowledge Yuuki-Kaname’s relationship as a romantic one, he supports it and cuz of that, he wants to stay as it is ( << and that’s why asking Yuuki to stop him if she believes that he is doing something wrong/dangerous) and somehow “withdraw” his offer/wish since now is inappropriate. Also is obvious that he had an idea of what Kaname was planning to do … and wanted to motivate Yuuki to stop him …

    Well this is my understanding lol. geek





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    Post by MGM on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:43 pm

    This is something I supposed to post like… one month ago…. *sigh* .... So sorry this is not replying to the above... only related to the topic.

    I think it is good for Kaname to leave Yuuki and with this such clear cut good bye, Yuuki now have no choice but to choose whether she wants to go after one of the boy or not (and of course…. Which boy?)

    She passed the test not drink from Zero once. And that is when she still has Kaname with her. Will she pass the test again now that Kaname not around? Actually by telling her to forget their time together, Kaname is releasing her from the punishment of only taking his blood. She is thirsty. Last time her thirst never quenched fully, because eventhough she has Kaname’s blood and satisfy her hunger for him, she never able satisfy her thirst for Zero. But she was still okay because at least she is half content. Now she is hungry for both guys blood. Kaname is not around. Zero is around but not “friendly”. But she wants Zero’s blood and Zero wants her. Will they finally bite each other neck?

    Plus Maria is there provoking Yuuki with question that she will take Zero if Yuuki doesn’t want him. What will Yuuki’s answer to this question? *heh!* Will she just glare and let it pass? From past pattern in VK: it is more likely that she will not give Zero up easily to any girl. She (as per we know all this time) cares for Zero’s happiness (or at least wants Zero to be happy). I think if it is not a girl Zero wants, she wont give him up. But she wont drink from him also. It was always something like that… hang in the middle … just like Skip Beat.. ch176 and Ren still hasn’t (French) kiss Kyouko.

    I hope Yuuki finds out soon that Zero still only want her blood. And yes….. in this situation clearly not favorable to Kaname, what will be her choice. What she will do? I need to see this. It is only fair to get an honest answer for this torturing love triangle. *me is just one stupid fan who tortured along* I need to see whether she is able to stay loyal as Kaname’s lover. Is she worthy of Kaname? If however she drinks from Zero; than it is just gonna free me. I cant say much seeing that she is able to keep herself from biting Zero last time. She is worthy enough but only barely pass though…. I bet Kaname’s heart wrenching so much knowing that she still got this desire for other man. Is it really no other way to sort this situation? At least Bella comes to love Edward more once she changes into a vampire herself. If .. she could not learn to love Kaname more.. than I wouldn’t care if she goes to Zero. *and thus I will keep Kaname for myself*

    Kaname has sacrifice a lot (if not everything) for her… I sadly think, that probably if the situation is not going this bad and make Kaname fell in despair, he will probably just live happily with Yuuki in their mansion … willingly sharing her heart with other guy (T_T) *wipe tears* poor Kaname-sama!… But then, Kaname realize that over time Purebloods wont change and the biggest threat comes from them.. and hence… I think what he meant by “things I hesitate doing” is = erasing the Purebloods (and probably himself too T_T because he always want to die) Kaname wont die from it but sure it will seriously damage his heart… every time he slashes to take life he slashes his own heart too because that is just the thing he doesn’t want to do the most. I think he take this path because he think it is the only way to keep Yuuki safe permanently. (just how stupid a man in love can be).

    I just thought that by witnessing with his own eyes (well… part of him as a bat did) chapter 60 – the almost bite between Yuuki and Zero, Kaname has come to conclusion that probably Yuuki will survive without him (Kaname) – something like: she loves them both; so she can live with either one (Kaname or Zero). That’s why Kaname ask Yuuki in ch 66 – “How do you see me?” And by Yuuki answer, probably he just convinced that what he thought is true and thus he just left to kill Purebloods (Right now I suspect he only kills Purebloods that he thought gonna be “problem” .. but not all Purebloods.. but who knows maybe I’m wrong and he will go to the extreme measure? But I wont be surprised if later turns out that Hiou and Hanadagi were one of the Pureblood who increase their army in the past or at least did very bad things in the past time) ….

    To me it seems that Kaname even purposely make himself look like a bad guy in Yuuki’s eye, so that it will be easier for Yuuki to forget her love for him. Kaname is never more stupid than Sara, Kaname is usually brilliant, it is kinda off for him to lose from Sara. Sara never caught in the act, while Kaname always have some people witness his doing. To the point that Sara can put him as the suspect who kill Ouri-sama (Sara’s fiancé) So for him to “get caught” killing Hanadagi-sama, Aidou’s father and Hiou-sama – I think he intentionally make it like that. He definitely purposely left it so that Aidou and Yuuki witness the moment. I guess what Kaname said to Aidou’s father before Kaname kill him is the key which hold the answer to the mystery.

    Moreover, I wont be surprise if Kaname also already calculating that by the time, Yuuki’s hunger already overcoming her and she will already bite Zero … Plus Kaname knows that Zero still loves her eventhough Zero himself is in denial. All in all, I think Kaname just want to make everything easier for Yuuki. *sigh*

    And, I really really need to know whether Yuuki able to keep her promise to Kaname and .. whether she is worthy of Kaname or not. Only of course, in my heart, still hoping for the tiniest hope of Yuuki will finally settle her heart to one person (and well yea.. desperately… I hope it is Kaname). I hope she will be able to keep her promise to drink only from Kaname. That as per what Aidou’s father said: “Will you be able to stop Kaname-sama? … If you think something is wrong, please plead with Kaname – sama not to do it.” So I hope for Kaname: Yuuki will find Kaname and stop him from this genocide idea and most importantly from destroying himself.

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