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    Post by juliet on Sat May 21, 2011 6:29 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Enjoy the full raw, provided by Isilen in LJ...thank you very much cheers cheers


    here for the link in LJ

    Here download!!

    Thank you all!!!

    And for the new readers;

    Nana Kramer posted here in LJ the translation.

    Nana...

    She asks from us to enjoy it..so we do...press the spoiler

    Spoiler:
    1-“The King that has given up the world he used to watch from his throne”
    Chapter 72: The taste of the blood tablets.

    2-Vampire: So, let’s start the auction
    Today we have this young woman, who’s “Water of life” is free of impurities. She’s a healthy 20 year old girl…
    Vampire 2: This is Bad!
    A hunter followed our smell!

    3-Yuuki: He’s here.

    4-Yuuki: Don’t run
    Vampire: Who are you?

    5-I said
    Don’t run.

    6-Woman: Let go of my boyfriend.
    Yuuki: You’re human…
    The victim from the auction…
    Vampire: Stupid!
    I told you to run away!
    You’ll get caught!
    Woman: How can you say that?
    You were about to get caught as well!!

    7-Woman: And also…
    Didn’t you say before that you need me?
    Yuuki: Ze…

    8-Woman: Hyaaaaa!!!!
    Yuuki: You catched him in the end, but…
    You just shot without making any question…

    9-Yuuki: And without even changing your expression…
    Zero: Your’e being too gentle for being a vampire, as always.
    Maria: Ah
    Sorry,
    I was just wondering why no one came running to my area so I could catch him…
    Looks like you were having an important conversation.
    Zero: Not at all…

    10-Zero: If you hate so much my methods
    You still have that bracelet, isn’t it?

    11-Use it.
    Contain me.
    The spell of submission is still working.

    12-I won’t use it.
    If it’s not for the Level E.

    13-Yuuki (grabbing her neck): Hah…
    Maria: I didn’t see him in a while…
    But now I look at Ichiru’s brother…
    I see he has changed a little bit.

    14-Maria: And to think…
    You would be that man’s sister…
    Kain: The lava flow doesn’t stop.
    Is it okay…?

    15-Kaname: *almost unreadable part. More or less*: Don’t worry about it.
    Maybe the landscape will change a bit, but…
    Kain: It’s not just that.
    The mansion will also eventually disappear.
    Ruka is also worried about this.
    Kaname: That won’t happen.
    By that time, this mansion will already be…
    Don’t worry.

    16-By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure.
    Kain: I hope so.
    If you don’t
    I will certainly kill you
    No matter what.

    17-So well
    Where are we heading next,
    Kaname-sama.

    18-Kaien: The news arrived here as well.
    The master of the Hiou family has been awaken from his slumber…
    *almost unreadable part. More or less*: Their servants tried to protect him no matter what
    But…

    19-We saw the ones who got to escape.
    Sara: That was…
    Kaname-san…
    Isn’t it?
    Kaien: Yes…
    Sara: I have been hiding it in my heart always since before, but…
    The truth is that the one who killed Ouri-sama in the ball…
    Was Kaname-san as well.
    20-Sara: Please
    Come in.

    Yuuki: Why do you say it was him?
    Did you see it with your own eyes…?
    Kaien: Yuuki…
    Sara: Yuuki-san… I understand how you feel.

    21-Sara: Help me…
    Kaname also killed Hanadagi-sama.
    I will for sure be the next to fall!
    You are the only one
    who can keep me away from him.
    Yuuki(thinking): wait
    Sara: Please…
    Let me stay with you!
    Yuuki(thinking): Someone
    Ichijou: Someone!!
    Please open the door!!

    22-I know Sara Shirabuki
    Is inside this hunter’s association!!!
    Yuuki (thinking): Someone please stop the time, just a little bit.

    23-Yuuki: What…
    Are you doing…
    Kaname…!
    Please stop it!
    (thinking): But time won’t stop.
    Yuuki: Ah…
    Ggh…

    24-Yuuki(thinking): Neither the fact that I’m a vampire
    Will go away.
    Sara: Thank you, Takuma.
    You have come for me?

    25-Girls: Sara-sama
    We were so worried about you, Sara-sama…
    Sara: fufu, you’re so cute…
    Ichijou: Kiryuu-kun
    Please say hello to Yuuki-chan. Also, I would like to speak with her.
    I have to stay here, so could you please…?

    26-No words xD

    27-Yuuki: What
    Zero.
    Zero: Ichijou-sempai
    Wants to speak with you.
    Yuuki: Hhmph…
    How stupid of me…
    To let the door open
    Without even noticing…

    28-Sara: What’s wrong?
    Young hunter…

    29-Sara: You’re so desperately hungry…
    Poor thing…
    Yuuki (thinking): The blood tablets
    Are made from synthesized blood cells from every type.
    We can’t even know
    from who are those blood cells…

    30-Yuuki(thinking): *Cut part. I can interpret it more or less what is said, but I won’t put it as it’s only an speculation*
    Yuuki: They don’t taste well…
    Maria: I agree with you.
    But they make life a little bit easier.
    Yuuki: Maria-san
    Maria: Sorry, but I have seen
    That you don’t speak with Zero as before…
    Yuuki: well…

    31-Maria: May it be…
    That you…
    Don’t want him anymore?
    Yuuki(thinking): the taste of the tablets
    Maria: Then…
    Yuuki(thinking): That I had for the firs t time is…

    32-Maria: Maybe I should have
    Zero for me…
    Yuuki(thinking): So unpleasant.






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    Re: Vampire Knight chapter 72 complete raws!! ENJOY

    Post by juliet on Sun May 22, 2011 8:20 pm

    Nana Kramer posted here in LJ the translation.

    Nana...

    She asks from us to enjoy it..so we do...press the spoiler

    Spoiler:
    1-“The King that has given up the world he used to watch from his throne”
    Chapter 72: The taste of the blood tablets.

    2-Vampire: So, let’s start the auction
    Today we have this young woman, who’s “Water of life” is free of impurities. She’s a healthy 20 year old girl…
    Vampire 2: This is Bad!
    A hunter followed our smell!

    3-Yuuki: He’s here.

    4-Yuuki: Don’t run
    Vampire: Who are you?

    5-I said
    Don’t run.

    6-Woman: Let go of my boyfriend.
    Yuuki: You’re human…
    The victim from the auction…
    Vampire: Stupid!
    I told you to run away!
    You’ll get caught!
    Woman: How can you say that?
    You were about to get caught as well!!

    7-Woman: And also…
    Didn’t you say before that you need me?
    Yuuki: Ze…

    8-Woman: Hyaaaaa!!!!
    Yuuki: You catched him in the end, but…
    You just shot without making any question…

    9-Yuuki: And without even changing your expression…
    Zero: Your’e being too gentle for being a vampire, as always.
    Maria: Ah
    Sorry,
    I was just wondering why no one came running to my area so I could catch him…
    Looks like you were having an important conversation.
    Zero: Not at all…

    10-Zero: If you hate so much my methods
    You still have that bracelet, isn’t it?

    11-Use it.
    Contain me.
    The spell of submission is still working.

    12-I won’t use it.
    If it’s not for the Level E.

    13-Yuuki (grabbing her neck): Hah…
    Maria: I didn’t see him in a while…
    But now I look at Ichiru’s brother…
    I see he has changed a little bit.

    14-Maria: And to think…
    You would be that man’s sister…
    Kain: The lava flow doesn’t stop.
    Is it okay…?

    15-Kaname: *almost unreadable part. More or less*: Don’t worry about it.
    Maybe the landscape will change a bit, but…
    Kain: It’s not just that.
    The mansion will also eventually disappear.
    Ruka is also worried about this.
    Kaname: That won’t happen.
    By that time, this mansion will already be…
    Don’t worry.

    16-By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure.
    Kain: I hope so.
    If you don’t
    I will certainly kill you
    No matter what.

    17-So well
    Where are we heading next,
    Kaname-sama.

    18-Kaien: The news arrived here as well.
    The master of the Hiou family has been awaken from his slumber…
    *almost unreadable part. More or less*: Their servants tried to protect him no matter what
    But…

    19-We saw the ones who got to escape.
    Sara: That was…
    Kaname-san…
    Isn’t it?
    Kaien: Yes…
    Sara: I have been hiding it in my heart always since before, but…
    The truth is that the one who killed Ouri-sama in the ball…
    Was Kaname-san as well.
    20-Sara: Please
    Come in.

    Yuuki: Why do you say it was him?
    Did you see it with your own eyes…?
    Kaien: Yuuki…
    Sara: Yuuki-san… I understand how you feel.

    21-Sara: Help me…
    Kaname also killed Hanadagi-sama.
    I will for sure be the next to fall!
    You are the only one
    who can keep me away from him.
    Yuuki(thinking): wait
    Sara: Please…
    Let me stay with you!
    Yuuki(thinking): Someone
    Ichijou: Someone!!
    Please open the door!!

    22-I know Sara Shirabuki
    Is inside this hunter’s association!!!
    Yuuki (thinking): Someone please stop the time, just a little bit.

    23-Yuuki: What…
    Are you doing…
    Kaname…!
    Please stop it!
    (thinking): But time won’t stop.
    Yuuki: Ah…
    Ggh…

    24-Yuuki(thinking): Neither the fact that I’m a vampire
    Will go away.
    Sara: Thank you, Takuma.
    You have come for me?

    25-Girls: Sara-sama
    We were so worried about you, Sara-sama…
    Sara: fufu, you’re so cute…
    Ichijou: Kiryuu-kun
    Please say hello to Yuuki-chan. Also, I would like to speak with her.
    I have to stay here, so could you please…?

    26-No words xD

    27-Yuuki: What
    Zero.
    Zero: Ichijou-sempai
    Wants to speak with you.
    Yuuki: Hhmph…
    How stupid of me…
    To let the door open
    Without even noticing…

    28-Sara: What’s wrong?
    Young hunter…

    29-Sara: You’re so desperately hungry…
    Poor thing…
    Yuuki (thinking): The blood tablets
    Are made from synthesized blood cells from every type.
    We can’t even know
    from who are those blood cells…

    30-Yuuki(thinking): *Cut part. I can interpret it more or less what is said, but I won’t put it as it’s only an speculation*
    Yuuki: They don’t taste well…
    Maria: I agree with you.
    But they make life a little bit easier.
    Yuuki: Maria-san
    Maria: Sorry, but I have seen
    That you don’t speak with Zero as before…
    Yuuki: well…

    31-Maria: May it be…
    That you…
    Don’t want him anymore?
    Yuuki(thinking): the taste of the tablets
    Maria: Then…
    Yuuki(thinking): That I had for the firs t time is…

    32-Maria: Maybe I should have
    Zero for me…
    Yuuki(thinking): So unpleasant.





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    Post by sweetsolace on Sun May 22, 2011 8:55 pm

    @juliet

    there are some differences in translation between the one posted by Knightmare's friend and the one by nana kramer.

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    Post by sweetsolace on Sun May 22, 2011 9:00 pm

    juliet wrote:
    sweetsolace wrote:Now he's the one taking Yuki's prey! and yuki got mad and all he said was she can subdue him with her bracelet if she wanted.. lol what? good that she made it clear to him that its only for level e purposes... somehow i slightly sensed that zero was hitting on her in this scene..
    he is discriminating, its not ok if yuki so much as stepped in to help him in rido's fight, now she has her prey and its OK FOR HIM to take it from her?

    Μ..and then Kaname is the sovinist around here..whereas Zero totally acts with respect to the leader of the vampires...It's not the right place here though to tell you what Zero thiks about Yuuki's actions...as his own actions and sayings show..

    HELL YES! supposedly Zero's way of being sexist is more acceptable than Kaname because its "hot". He just took her prey without warning... what would happen if that happened to him ? I bet he wouldn't like it either considering he threw yuki off the roof

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    Post by ChuCookie on Sun May 22, 2011 11:33 pm

    Please Maria do soo steal Zero away. Get him away from yuuki, so that in Yuuki's mind there will only be Kaname hehe Very Happy

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    Post by rumland on Mon May 23, 2011 12:25 am

    sweetsolace wrote:
    juliet wrote:
    sweetsolace wrote:Now he's the one taking Yuki's prey! and yuki got mad and all he said was she can subdue him with her bracelet if she wanted.. lol what? good that she made it clear to him that its only for level e purposes... somehow i slightly sensed that zero was hitting on her in this scene..
    he is discriminating, its not ok if yuki so much as stepped in to help him in rido's fight, now she has her prey and its OK FOR HIM to take it from her?

    Μ..and then Kaname is the sovinist around here..whereas Zero totally acts with respect to the leader of the vampires...It's not the right place here though to tell you what Zero thiks about Yuuki's actions...as his own actions and sayings show..

    HELL YES! supposedly Zero's way of being sexist is more acceptable than Kaname because its "hot". He just took her prey without warning... what would happen if that happened to him ? I bet he wouldn't like it either considering he threw yuki off the roof

    Umm in a way zero did not actualy steal yuki's prey, zero was not originaly going to tell yuki about the vampires in the city, she over heard them and decided she was going to handle it her self, hence stealing zero's prey lol, I love a forcefull yuki and you can just tell zero wants to get punished by yuki.

    Edited in:
    I can see the future now, yuki and zero get in an arguement after she catches maria and sara alone in a room with him, yuki yells at zero and he says he don't need to take that when there are 2 girls in the other room willing to treat him right, yuki replys, fine go then, zero turns around to walk out and yuki's bracelet hits his tatto, as he falls yuki hits him in the head with the blunt end of artimis.

    Yuki goes back to kaname and agrees to marry him however there is 1 catch, she wants her own private room to use as she likes that no one is allowed in but her, he agrees and they get married, a few hundred years pass and kaname is looking for yuki one day and happens to walk past yuki's private room, while walking by he hears wimpers comeing from inside, kaname brakes the lock and enters the room to kind zero chained to the wall with whip marks and wounds cause by high heals all over his body, kaname runs towerds zero going "zero you sudenly disapeared over 200 years ago what are you doing here, then kaname feels a sharp pain to the back of his head and every thing goes black, scene cuts to kaname on the ground in front of zero and yuki is standing bihind him with the artimis. Yuki says "damn these men just wont listen to me, I said to never come in here kaname, now you must be taught a lesson just like zero"

    LoL hope this improv gave you guys even a little laught bounce


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    Post by Knightmare on Mon May 23, 2011 12:36 am

    sweetsolace wrote:supposedly Zero's way of being sexist is more acceptable than Kaname because its "hot". He just took her prey without warning... what would happen if that happened to him ? I bet he wouldn't like it either considering he threw yuki off the roof

    I think the words you're looking for is double standards or hypocrite, Zero doesn't say it because Yuuki is a girl. And Yuuki did take his prey in ch70 too, didn't actually upset him. tit for tat. Yuuki was just standing there while the 2 argued about getting away anyway.

    I don't think its the Kuran mansion, Hino probably just let people worry that it is by not actually saying where they are exactly. Maybe Kaname went to this particular mansion to watch over the volcano. You could interpret conversation between Kain and Kaname as Kaname saying he will send Ruka away before he puts her in too much danger (i don't think he's talking about the volcano), yet Kain is threatening him if he doesn't. So Kaname is content to use Ruka for now, but Kain wants to ensure Kaname doesn't put her life in danger.

    I think all in all, there's a flag of danger there for Ruka and she at this point, is the most likely person to sacrifice herself to protect Kaname and this will stir up a lot of angst.

    Speaking of deathflags, Sara is so going to die soon. how many kinds of stupid are these people? To accept that Kaname killed Ouri? It pissed me off that they wouldn't assume that Sara was the one who killed Ouri and the hunter in the first place since she was the one both Zero and Yuuki smelt fresh blood on (did neither of them tell *anyone* sFun_banghead2 ). If someone doesn't see that for the bald faced lie that it is, I'm going to smack someone soon if they're not watching Sara like a hawk and that Kaname's actions haven't lessened their suspicions of her.

    Also, the black rook and the white piece which has fallen over, which I think is the white queen. I reckon this means that Takuma is poised to take down Sara very soon, Kaname has all his pieces in place and he looks ready for the next phase of his plan.


    Yes! And the hunters what are they doing??? >>>
    Um, tracking down the trouble? Like Zero said, there's lots of chaos stirring even more than they can handle.

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    Post by nina on Mon May 23, 2011 12:25 pm

    knightmare wrote: I don't think its the Kuran mansion, Hino probably just let people worry that it is by not actually saying where they are exactly. Maybe Kaname went to this particular mansion to watch over the volcano. You could interpret conversation between Kain and Kaname as Kaname saying he will send Ruka away before he puts her in too much danger (i don't think he's talking about the volcano), yet Kain is threatening him if he doesn't. So Kaname is content to use Ruka for now, but Kain wants to ensure Kaname doesn't put her life in danger.

    I think all in all, there's a flag of danger there for Ruka and she at this point, is the most likely person to sacrifice herself to protect Kaname and this will stir up a lot of angst.


    Good remark knightmare about Hino’s intentions! I tend to think so too … Kaname and the others aren’t in the Kuran mansion also for another reason. As we saw Kaname gave a significant key to Yuuki which most likely opens the cabinet in his room <<< if that’s right and not an intentional misleading from Hino then it couldn’t be their home the one they are now and ready to be destroyed …

    Now about Ruka … my interpretation is that Ruka despite the fact that she is sad and probably worried she doesn’t want to leave and Kain wants to ensure that Kaname will send her off … here their conversation from the translation …

    Kaname: By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure.
    Kain: I hope so.
    If you don’t
    I will certainly kill you
    No matter what.


    So Kaname will do something to drive away Ruka <<< if the translation is correct Ruka doesn’t want to leave no matter what and Kaname will “force” her to do so.
    Also about the part “ even though she’ll hate” I’m not sure if Ruka will hate him of what he is about to do or cuz he’ll force her to leave! I bet is the later judging from Ruka’s history lol.
    Furthermore Kaname never forced anyone to follow him so I’m sure that Ruka is there with him by her own free will. And Kain follows Ruka as always.

    Kain’s words “I’ll kill you” … I don’t think these words have the literally meaning cuz either way Kain can’t kill Kaname. But certainly he wants to emphasize that Ruka should go to a safer place and since she doesn’t listen to him (I guess) “warning” Kaname that is his responsibility to do so. That scene reminds me the scene when Kaname drunk from Ruka and Kain said to Kaname that he won’t forgive him if he’ll do it again. I think it’s a similar situation but now Ruka is in danger to be physically hurt maybe and not so emotionally.

    knightmare wrote: Speaking of deathflags, Sara is so going to die soon. how many kinds of stupid are these people? To accept that Kaname killed Ouri? It pissed me off that they wouldn't assume that Sara was the one who killed Ouri and the hunter in the first place since she was the one both Zero and Yuuki smelt fresh blood on (did neither of them tell *anyone* ). If someone doesn't see that for the bald faced lie that it is, I'm going to smack someone soon if they're not watching Sara like a hawk and that Kaname's actions haven't lessened their suspicions of her.

    Haha I think so too about Sara … the fact that she accused Kaname for her crime it was the stupidest thing and I’m so glad she did that!
    First cuz unknowingly she whitewash Kaname from the suspicions hunters had that he was Sara’s ally hohoho! And second as you said hunters have clues that she was behind Ouri’s and hunter’s murder … so I think she digs her own grave because since she is trying to accuse someone else means she is guilty!!!!!
    Also Cross’s stance gave me the impression that he didn’t believe her but he played along for his reasons … will see …
    Not to mention that she is playing with fire by approaching Zero …
    Sara>>>
    Zero>>>

    knightmare wrote: Also, the black rook and the white piece which has fallen over, which I think is the white queen. I reckon this means that Takuma is poised to take down Sara very soon, Kaname has all his pieces in place and he looks ready for the next phase of his plan.


    Aaaa! I didn’t see the white pawn but I checked it and you’re right … there is a fallen white pawn!!!! We can’t see if it is the Queen/Sara but is very plausible!!! Here …





    And I didn’t think that the rook could be Takuma!!!!! Great analysis!!!!!





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    Post by Akaruisama on Mon May 23, 2011 12:54 pm

    It's very mysterious chapter!
    I like to se Kain protected Ruka as always. It's natural for him to follow Kaname only because of Ruka's feelings. I hope he will havw her at the end Razz

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    Post by juliet on Mon May 23, 2011 3:17 pm

    nina wrote:


    knightmare wrote: Speaking of deathflags, Sara is so going to die soon. how many kinds of stupid are these people? To accept that Kaname killed Ouri? It pissed me off that they wouldn't assume that Sara was the one who killed Ouri and the hunter in the first place since she was the one both Zero and Yuuki smelt fresh blood on (did neither of them tell *anyone* ). If someone doesn't see that for the bald faced lie that it is, I'm going to smack someone soon if they're not watching Sara like a hawk and that Kaname's actions haven't lessened their suspicions of her.

    Haha I think so too about Sara … the fact that she accused Kaname for her crime it was the stupidest thing and I’m so glad she did that!
    First cuz unknowingly she whitewash Kaname from the suspicions hunters had that he was Sara’s ally hohoho! And second as you said hunters have clues that she was behind Ouri’s and hunter’s murder … so I think she digs her own grave because since she is trying to accuse someone else means she is guilty!!!!!
    Also Cross’s stance gave me the impression that he didn’t believe her but he played along for his reasons … will see …
    Not to mention that she is playing with fire by approaching Zero …
    Sara>>>
    Zero>>>

    Ι agree here with both of you! Sara's move to accuse Kaname about Ouri's death but with what kind of evidence? Yuuki was with Kaname at the ball, when she left, Kaname was at the ballroom with everyone else.

    we are not shown what the final answer to Sara's ridiculous pleadings are though, do we?
    perhaps she is putting on that hilarious show so that she can persuade not the hunters but Yuuki that Kaname is guilty for all and force her to take her in the academy...and she does not care if the hunters believe her or not. I still have not figured her plan though.
    The tablets, the girls, the abductions of humans to her cellar, the killings...another cryptic chapter as Akaruisama said that makes me want explode explosive


    knightmare wrote: Also, the black rook and the white piece which has fallen over, which I think is the white queen. I reckon this means that Takuma is poised to take down Sara very soon, Kaname has all his pieces in place and he looks ready for the next phase of his plan.


    Aaaa! I didn’t see the white pawn but I checked it and you’re right … there is a fallen white pawn!!!! We can’t see if it is the Queen/Sara but is very plausible!!! Here …



    And I didn’t think that the rook could be Takuma!!!!! Great analysis!!!!!
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    Unfortunately Takuma can not take down Sara,not literally. Sara can be killed either by Kaname/ Yuuki or Zero or any other hunter. Perhaps it's Yuuki? It would be fair to kill Sara -woman to woman...only guesses here..

    I do not understand the role of the volcano here. Why are they watching it? Is it important or just a discussion to fill in panels such as with Ruka? because profoundly we know Ruka's love and weakness for Kaname, so what's with the rehearsal again and again?

    Now Zero is having Sara and Maria all over him?
    Maria notices that Zero's and yuuki's relation has turned colder and informs Yuuki of her intentions to play with Zero...

    Also Yuuki there- really seems to suffer with the tablets and hardly hears what Maria tells her- another point here that she had been spoiled taking Kaname's blood until now and to her the tablets seem unpleasant and strange.

    I think that between Zero and Yuuki this is one of the chapters that they are really cold and serious with each other. At least Hino breaks the triangle more and more... what do you think?






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    Post by nina on Mon May 23, 2011 7:12 pm

    Juliet wrote: Unfortunately Takuma can not take down Sara,not literally. Sara can be killed either by Kaname/ Yuuki or Zero or any other hunter. Perhaps it's Yuuki? It would be fair to kill Sara -woman to woman...only guesses here..


    Yes you’re right … literally Takuma can’t kill Sara and I wasn’t meant that Takuma(rook) will kill her, but Takuma is near to the next pawn which is about time to be killed aka Sara (black rook near to fallen white pawn). Also he can protect the king and the queen from far away. If Takuma reveals some info about Sara to Yuuki then that could be considering as a protection to Yuuki … also he could ruin Sara’s plans by double-crossing her <<< this also could be considering as a protection to the king. Furthermore we don’t know yet why he was staying with Sara.
    Anyway my point is not that Takuma (rook) is going to take down Sara (white queen) but that now is the time to play a role which will benefit Yuuki or Kaname.

    The rook is a pawn which mostly participates near to the end of the chess game. Thus far the only person who didn’t have an active role is Takuma<<< also far away from the king. And now I think is time to be unveiled his role …
    On the other hand Ruka and Kain are participating in Kaname’s plans from the beginning, Hanabusa is Yuuki’s knight ergo the only one who’s left is Takuma …

    Plus more importantly ... look at the content of the conversation and the pic … Kain asks Kaname …. “Where are we heading next, Kaname-sama.” … Kaname doesn’t answer but he reaches the resin-rose (aka Yuuki) while we see the black rook and the fallen white pawn <<< with all together we can speculate that they heading at the academy where Yuuki is, to take down Sara << the fallen white pawn where also the black rook << Takuma is.
    I mean the pic with the resin-rose and the chess pawns is like a preview of what coming next this time and not of what happened so far!

    I hope I made sense





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    Post by rumland on Mon May 23, 2011 8:10 pm

    umm do you guys play chess? The rook is not a pawn, it is a rook hence the name, in a normal chess game there are the following
    1 king, The peace to be protected at all costs.
    1 Queen, The most powerfull peace on the board
    2 rooks, longrange straight forward attackers.
    2 bishops, longrange diaganal attackers
    2 knights, midrange curving attackers
    8 pawns, The weakist peace on the board, can only move forward and can only attack diaganal, however if the pawn serves it's purpose it can become any lost peace up to the level of the queen.

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    Post by minimalve on Mon May 23, 2011 8:21 pm

    nina wrote:
    Juliet wrote: Unfortunately Takuma can not take down Sara,not literally. Sara can be killed either by Kaname/ Yuuki or Zero or any other hunter. Perhaps it's Yuuki? It would be fair to kill Sara -woman to woman...only guesses here..


    Yes you’re right … literally Takuma can’t kill Sara and I wasn’t meant that Takuma(rook) will kill her, but Takuma is near to the next pawn which is about time to be killed aka Sara (black rook near to fallen white pawn). Also he can protect the king and the queen from far away. If Takuma reveals some info about Sara to Yuuki then that could be considering as a protection to Yuuki … also he could ruin Sara’s plans by double-crossing her <<< this also could be considering as a protection to the king. Furthermore we don’t know yet why he was staying with Sara.
    Anyway my point is not that Takuma (rook) is going to take down Sara (white queen) but that now is the time to play a role which will benefit Yuuki or Kaname.

    The rook is a pawn which mostly participates near to the end of the chess game. Thus far the only person who didn’t have an active role is Takuma<<< also far away from the king. And now I think is time to be unveiled his role …
    On the other hand Ruka and Kain are participating in Kaname’s plans from the beginning, Hanabusa is Yuuki’s knight ergo the only one who’s left is Takuma …

    Plus more importantly ... look at the content of the conversation and the pic … Kain asks Kaname …. “Where are we heading next, Kaname-sama.” … Kaname doesn’t answer but he reaches the resin-rose (aka Yuuki) while we see the black rook and the fallen white pawn <<< with all together we can speculate that they heading at the academy where Yuuki is, to take down Sara << the fallen white pawn where also the black rook << Takuma is.
    I mean the pic with the resin-rose and the chess pawns is like a preview of what coming next this time and not of what happened so far!

    I hope I made sense

    Made perfect sense to me! Very Happy
    I am however curious to see the old pictures where we see kaname playing chess to see how he indicates who is who... to see if the rook is standing there somewhere along the line without making a move yet...
    Same with the white piece..

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    Post by juliet on Mon May 23, 2011 8:45 pm

    minimalve wrote:
    nina wrote:
    Juliet wrote: Unfortunately Takuma can not take down Sara,not literally. Sara can be killed either by Kaname/ Yuuki or Zero or any other hunter. Perhaps it's Yuuki? It would be fair to kill Sara -woman to woman...only guesses here..


    Yes you’re right … literally Takuma can’t kill Sara and I wasn’t meant that Takuma(rook) will kill her, but Takuma is near to the next pawn which is about time to be killed aka Sara (black rook near to fallen white pawn). Also he can protect the king and the queen from far away. If Takuma reveals some info about Sara to Yuuki then that could be considering as a protection to Yuuki … also he could ruin Sara’s plans by double-crossing her <<< this also could be considering as a protection to the king. Furthermore we don’t know yet why he was staying with Sara.
    Anyway my point is not that Takuma (rook) is going to take down Sara (white queen) but that now is the time to play a role which will benefit Yuuki or Kaname.

    The rook is a pawn which mostly participates near to the end of the chess game. Thus far the only person who didn’t have an active role is Takuma<<< also far away from the king. And now I think is time to be unveiled his role …
    On the other hand Ruka and Kain are participating in Kaname’s plans from the beginning, Hanabusa is Yuuki’s knight ergo the only one who’s left is Takuma …

    Plus more importantly ... look at the content of the conversation and the pic … Kain asks Kaname …. “Where are we heading next, Kaname-sama.” … Kaname doesn’t answer but he reaches the resin-rose (aka Yuuki) while we see the black rook and the fallen white pawn <<< with all together we can speculate that they heading at the academy where Yuuki is, to take down Sara << the fallen white pawn where also the black rook << Takuma is.
    I mean the pic with the resin-rose and the chess pawns is like a preview of what coming next this time and not of what happened so far!

    I hope I made sense

    Made perfect sense to me! Very Happy
    I am however curious to see the old pictures where we see kaname playing chess to see how he indicates who is who... to see if the rook is standing there somewhere along the line without making a move yet...
    Same with the white piece..

    Smile

    Kaname is with the black ones at least here...

    http://vampireknight.all-up.com/gallery/Vampire-Knight/chess%20game%20started-pic_94.htm

    There is also so Yuuki protects the Black King...


    The towers are usually two and under the logic that Nina mentioned, it can be also Ruka and Kain that protect Kaname. we only see the one that has overthrown a pawn there..or has helped to eliminate the Queen (?)...
    Also the tower can switch places with the King to further shield him from an attack. This move can happen at any stage of the game with the condition that this is the tower's first move.

    Even though I do not believe that Hino goes that far...

    What strikes me is that the pawn is already down...I do not think that Kaname would overthrown a pawn (enemy) out of the way, if it had not been done already.






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    Post by Knightmare on Mon May 23, 2011 11:10 pm

    juliet wrote:
    What strikes me is that the pawn is already down...I do not think that Kaname would overthrown a pawn (enemy) out of the way, if it had not been done already.

    Eh, I think the piece being already down is just an analogy for the fact that the plan is in motion with this as the end result. I don't think its a pawn, a pawn isn't important to be shown taken down, I think its a queen again.

    Because clearly, Sara has been playing right into Kaname's hands this entire time, even now blaming him for Ouri's murder, which is stupid since HE covered for her naming it as a suicide. If she were actually smart, she should be worried about WHY Kaname is covering for her and practically putting himself in a position where he is taking the fall for her crimes.

    For interest, if you've got vol3, at the end of chapter 14, there was an addition of the black king facing the white queen. But if you look at the cover of chapter 15, its the white king who is in chains and Kaname has the white queen in his hands, already having taken her. But we don't really have a white king in that arc, so Shizuka is either one or both. I think the analogy of the chess game is not really too specific or perfect for analysis. I only think its intended to remind us there is a game and Kaname is ready for his next move.


    1 king, The peace to be protected at all costs.
    This gives me the idea though, that perhaps the white king isn't a person, but an idea, what they are fighting for/protecting/opposed about. For Shizuka it was the power to take down Rido. For Sara is the ability to rule vampire society.

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    Post by Rose.Petals on Tue May 24, 2011 1:00 am

    This chapter has me convinced there is more to the blood tablets than meets the eye.

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    Post by nina on Tue May 24, 2011 1:05 pm

    When I used in my previous post the word pawn I meant it in a general way as a piece and not literally. My bad since the word pawn is used for the 8 plain pieces/pawns.

    Anyway I think the fallen white piece it’s not a plain pawn but maybe the white queen. (?)>> viz Sara.

    Juliet the cover you posted I think it could be a preview/foretoken … if you remember we have discussed it in the thread with the chess game. Back then I said that maybe in the second arc will see Yuuki (maybe as a Queen) “protecting” her King<< Kaname. So eventually we might see Yuuki to be on Kaname’s side or even save him(?) despite Sara’s efforts to turn her against him.(?) Will see …

    Now about the volcano … do you think that Kaname is behind the volcano’s eruption in Iceland?affraid Such a coincidence ???!!! Ha ha just joking cuz maybe is the only thing that Kaname isn’t accused of! Razz

    Now seriously … this is huge! An eruption?explosive What Hino have in mind?!!!! How Kaname can cause such a nature phenomenon?

    The only thing I can recall which related with mother nature and a PB’s power is Shizuka … when she went to kill Zero’s family she was standing beside a blooming sakura in the middle of winter. But I don’t know if the two incidents could be related … or if it is an indication for what a PB can do with his/her powers! confused





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    Post by juliet on Tue May 24, 2011 1:52 pm

    Because clearly, Sara has been playing right into Kaname's hands this entire time, even now blaming him for Ouri's murder, which is stupid since HE covered for her naming it as a suicide. If she were actually smart, she should be worried about WHY Kaname is covering for her and practically putting himself in a position where he is taking the fall for her crimes.

    Ι don't know I used to appreciate her like a villain..now she does seem a bit stupid..all these accuses just to get to Yuuki? and tell her that Kaname is guilty of Ouri's death? but Yuuki was there all along with Kaname and Kaname was all night in the ballroom and even before...anyway..he is covered, no matter what Sara says. How is she exposign herself that much?


    For interest, if you've got vol3, at the end of chapter 14, there was an addition of the black king facing the white queen. But if you look at the cover of chapter 15, its the white king who is in chains and Kaname has the white queen in his hands, already having taken her. But we don't really have a white king in that arc, so Shizuka is either one or both. I think the analogy of the chess game is not really too specific or perfect for analysis. I only think its intended to remind us there is a game and Kaname is ready for his next move.


    This gives me the idea though, that perhaps the white king isn't a person, but an idea, what they are fighting for/protecting/opposed about. For Shizuka it was the power to take down Rido. For Sara is the ability to rule vampire society.



    You are probably right...Ouaou...wheredid you remember vol,3. chapter 14? really good memory there, first arc had though a white King rido that was restrained after the blow he had taken but ready to be released/ now in this arc we may be lacking enough pieces...this is where your idea about the white King to be an idea might become handy.

    Now the Black Queen (is this supposed to be Yuuki? but Yuuki fits more in the role of the King in chess terms, anyway)...I doubt that we can draw conclusion like that. Hino does not use chess in a very loyal to the book way...


    Rose.Petals wrote:This chapter has me convinced there is more to the blood tablets than meets the eye.


    Hello and welcome? how did you draw that conclusion? curious...

    nina wrote:
    Now about the volcano … do you think that Kaname is behind the volcano’s eruption in Iceland?affraid Such a coincidence ???!!! Ha ha just joking cuz maybe is the only thing that Kaname isn’t accused of! Razz

    Now seriously … this is huge! An eruption?explosive What Hino have in mind?!!!! How Kaname can cause such a nature phenomenon?

    The only thing I can recall which related with mother nature and a PB’s power is Shizuka … when she went to kill Zero’s family she was standing beside a blooming sakura in the middle of winter. But I don’t know if the two incidents could be related … or if it is an indication for what a PB can do with his/her powers! :confused:


    Yes good one with the volcano rofl rofl

    About Shizuka I had not thought about it, because IF there is a chance that kaname has caused it, he might be powerful enough to have provoked it on his own. The fanbook says that he has many powers that are mystery, his full powers are unknown.
    Shizuka's main power was to manipulate plants/ I guess Kaname might has that power also now but the lava of a volcano is different. In order for him to be there, it does look like he caused the eruption..isnt that logical to assume it? Even though as an event it sounds that big.
    So he no longer needs the mansion. So this can not be the Kurans mansion but the one he was resting until now I guess, since Kain asked him where they are going afterwards.

    But returning to the academy this is dangerous under the current circumstances.

    by the way the Rose there, another indication how he had planned to leave...






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    Post by Rose.Petals on Tue May 24, 2011 7:10 pm

    Thanks for the welcome!

    This is from another translation:

    Back in the room, Yuuki thinks that the blood tablets are manufactured blood from all sorts of blood type. It is made from cell and synthetic substances. Yuuki wonders whose cell it originally from and in an instant, she felt the taste of that person whom she hasn’t seen countless times

    Could "that person" be Kaname? Yuuki has only drunken Kaname's blood, so who else's taste could she remember?

    Then again, at the end of the chapter Yuuki is thinking about the taste of the tablets.

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    Post by juliet on Tue May 24, 2011 7:31 pm

    Rose.Petals wrote:Thanks for the welcome!

    This is from another translation:

    Back in the room, Yuuki thinks that the blood tablets are manufactured blood from all sorts of blood type. It is made from cell and synthetic substances. Yuuki wonders whose cell it originally from and in an instant, she felt the taste of that person whom she hasn’t seen countless times

    Could "that person" be Kaname? Yuuki has only drunken Kaname's blood, so who else's taste could she remember?

    Then again, at the end of the chapter Yuuki is thinking about the taste of the tablets.

    cheers cheers I have not heard that mentioned before...the taste of that person whom she hasn’t seen countless times? are you sure? it almost sounds impossible..







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    Post by Rose.Petals on Tue May 24, 2011 7:45 pm

    No, I guess we will have to wait for the scans to come out. There seem to be a couple different interpretations in the translations. Being that Kaname was a scientist, I think he created the blood tablets from his cells. But it doesn't explain why Zero didn't taste the same thing Yuuki did...

    Also, Kaname didn't want Aidou to give Yuuki the tablets.

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    Post by sweetsolace on Tue May 24, 2011 7:50 pm

    I think I recall that bloodtablets were made from different ones blood cells
    and it was tasteless but Yuki doesn't like it, it was "unpleasant" because it was her first time taking it

    there are different types of bloodtablets it could be a reason. Takuma said there are risky instances where the body rejects the tablets that's probably what happened when Zero took it by the pool- episode, it rejected him and he said one time he feels disgusted when he takes it.
    but after yuki left, he said he was able to take it, so could this mean his body didnt reject it now?? i think more it has to do with the timing of taking it?

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    Post by nina on Wed May 25, 2011 1:06 am

    Umm when I first read Yuuki's monologue about the tablets I thought that maybe this was an indication for the next chapter that perhaps will have a development about the blood tablets and what Sara was scheming all this time ... like a “bridge” to that direction.

    But if that’s true …

    Rose.Petals wrote: Back in the room, Yuuki thinks that the blood tablets are manufactured blood from all sorts of blood type. It is made from cell and synthetic substances. Yuuki wonders whose cell it originally from and in an instant, she felt the taste of that person whom she hasn’t seen countless times


    … how Kaname’s blood cells could be in the common tabs???<< I assume are the common tabs which using all the members of the NC cuz while I was browsing on the first chapters I found this …

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2092-9/vampire-knight/chapter-7.html

    … a huge bottle with blood tablets for Zero from Cross! I think it resembles with the bottle Yuuki had on her night table chap.71 …

    http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/17

    So I guess the academy provides the NC with these tabs.
    Arggghhh I need answers not more mysteries …

    BTW welcome Rose.Petals!

    sweetsolace wrote: I think I recall that bloodtablets were made from different ones blood cells
    and it was tasteless but Yuki doesn't like it, it was "unpleasant" because it was her first time taking it

    there are different types of bloodtablets it could be a reason. Takuma said there are risky instances where the body rejects the tablets that's probably what happened when Zero took it by the pool- episode, it rejected him and he said one time he feels disgusted when he takes it.
    but after yuki left, he said he was able to take it, so could this mean his body didnt reject it now?? i think more it has to do with the timing of taking it?

    Well according to Shiki’s words …

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2092-43/vampire-knight/chapter-7.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2092-44/vampire-knight/chapter-7.html

    … and Yuuki’s …

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2095-13/vampire-knight/chapter-8.html

    … I think in their words there is the innuendo that when the body rejects the tabs the END is very close …
    I think that Zero’s body was rejecting the tabs cuz he was near to fall into a level-e status … by that time he was pretty close. However he was able to take them a year ago viz after he received Shizuka’s blood by proxy and also Kaname’s and Yuuki’s blood. For all this time he was stabilized as a level-d so he had no problem to consume the tablets. Now if he is permanently or temporary stabilized … well this remains to be seen …






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    Post by mariangie on Wed May 25, 2011 8:59 am

    A full summary here :

    http://tatsukida.pitas.com/

    It's too long to post whole .

    But from here is the comment about blood tablets could have Kaname's cells . This part is the opinion of the one who made this summary :

    "About the blood tablets, from Yuuki’s thoughts, it does seem that the ones Yuuki is eating are made from Kaname’s blood. Were all the others made from his blood or these ones are specially made for Yuuki? Since Kaname used to be some sort of alchemist/scientist, I won’t be surprised if he is also the one who invented the blood tablets. Hm..maybe this is the reason why he was taking the blood of those villagers before. "

    If what she said here is true , them this explain some things .

    --Why the blood tablets that uses Kaname are different from the popular kind ?

    They have to be different . Because if the popular kind uses Kaname cells as prime material , they can't give Kaname any nutricion . AS Yuuki told before a vampire own blood don't fill a vampire blood lust . So the kind Kaname uses have to be derived from other vampire source . ( whom ?? I don't know . )

    --Most probable Kaname was the one who originally invented the blood tablets .

    I had that idea from long ago . We have now enough evidence to substain this . The Night Class improved the tablets . But most probable Kaname invented them as a way to survive by his own without the need to drink human blood .

    --Why Kaname didn't want Yuuki to take the tablets ?
    If the popular brand has derived from his blood / cells , he probably didn't Yuuki to discover this .

    --If Kaname's cells / blood is a component of the popular blood tablets kind . Maybe this is why Zero could now use the blood tablets . Because Zero only could use blood tablets after being exposed to Kaname's blood . Maybe Zero created tolerance to the tablets components after being exposed to a large quantity or Kaname's blood . This part I'm not so sure .


    --Maybe this explains why some vampire can't take blood tablets . ( I'm mega speculating here . )

    It was said for humans , taking pureblood's blood was kind of a gamble . A human could die after taking it . Works here as poison . Could become a vampire . Or could be use as panacea . Be a cure for any illness ( as the case of Ichiru / Maria ) .
    Maybe in the case of blood tablets there is a kind of similar side effect for the ex - human , now Level D / E vampire that drank the blood tablet . As a vampire drinking pureblood's blood can't be changed again to a vampire . No problem here . But if the one drinking the tablet has the bad luck to react to the tablet as if it was poison . The vampire in this case could not accept the tablet . He probably don't die because he is already a vampire . Also because probably the original pureblood's blood is present in minimal quantities . But His / her body couldn't accept taking the pills without getting ill .



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    A weird comment : If the tablets are derived from a pureblood cells / blood , why they taste so awful / tasteless ? The blood of a pureblood vampire is supposed to be the best tasty thing to a vampire .

    Maybe as they are a kind of artificial product the blood taste is modified . I imagine the process to make blood tablets is similar to making some human hormones used as medicine as insulin ( by DNA recombinating techiques with modified bacterias ) Is a complex method . The most easy explananation I could think of is : You take a bunch of bacteria . Make them absorb DNA material from another cell which produce a hormone / medicine . The bacteria introduces the foreing DNA information in its own celular DNA . Now the bacteria produces the hormone / medicine .


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    Post by Knightmare on Wed May 25, 2011 12:10 pm

    juliet wrote:
    Rose.Petals wrote:Thanks for the welcome!

    This is from another translation:

    Back in the room, Yuuki thinks that the blood tablets are manufactured blood from all sorts of blood type. It is made from cell and synthetic substances. Yuuki wonders whose cell it originally from and in an instant, she felt the taste of that person whom she hasn’t seen countless times

    Could "that person" be Kaname? Yuuki has only drunken Kaname's blood, so who else's taste could she remember?

    Then again, at the end of the chapter Yuuki is thinking about the taste of the tablets.

    cheers cheers I have not heard that mentioned before...the taste of that person whom she hasn’t seen countless times? are you sure? it almost sounds impossible..

    Yeah, that part was cut off on the original raws. My friend has looked at the magazine now and she translated it as "For a moment I felt the infinite presence of a face I can't/couldn't see." She said its definitely "presence" not "taste". Meaning Yuuki couldn't quite figure out who it was.

    So yeah, it maybe explain why Zero and others reject them.



    You are probably right...Ouaou...wheredid you remember vol,3. chapter 14? really good memory there, first arc had though a white King rido that was restrained after the blow he had taken but ready to be released/ now in this arc we may be lacking enough pieces...this is where your idea about the white King to be an idea might become handy.
    Hee hee, I didn't remember, I was going to my books trying to find images of the chess pieces to try and figure out what that damn white piece was. But found she's kinda drawn them a bit differently from time to time.


    Also, Kaname didn't want Aidou to give Yuuki the tablets.
    Yeah, but thats because Yuuki wasn't using her fangs and he wanted her to learn, he was happy to use them himself later.

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    Post by Akaruisama on Wed May 25, 2011 12:11 pm

    mariangie wrote:A full summary here :

    http://tatsukida.pitas.com/

    It's too long to post whole .

    But from here is the comment about blood tablets could have Kaname's cells . This part is the opinion of the one who made this summary :

    "About the blood tablets, from Yuuki’s thoughts, it does seem that the ones Yuuki is eating are made from Kaname’s blood. Were all the others made from his blood or these ones are specially made for Yuuki? Since Kaname used to be some sort of alchemist/scientist, I won’t be surprised if he is also the one who invented the blood tablets. Hm..maybe this is the reason why he was taking the blood of those villagers before. "

    If what she said here is true , them this explain some things .

    --Why the blood tablets that uses Kaname are different from the popular kind ?

    They have to be different . Because if the popular kind uses Kaname cells as prime material , they can't give Kaname any nutricion . AS Yuuki told before a vampire own blood don't fill a vampire blood lust . So the kind Kaname uses have to be derived from other vampire source . ( whom ?? I don't know . )

    --Most probable Kaname was the one who originally invented the blood tablets .

    I had that idea from long ago . We have now enough evidence to substain this . The Night Class improved the tablets . But most probable Kaname invented them as a way to survive by his own without the need to drink human blood .

    --Why Kaname didn't want Yuuki to take the tablets ?
    If the popular brand has derived from his blood / cells , he probably didn't Yuuki to discover this .

    --If Kaname's cells / blood is a component of the popular blood tablets kind . Maybe this is why Zero could now use the blood tablets . Because Zero only could use blood tablets after being exposed to Kaname's blood . Maybe Zero created tolerance to the tablets components after being exposed to a large quantity or Kaname's blood . This part I'm not so sure .


    --Maybe this explains why some vampire can't take blood tablets . ( I'm mega speculating here . )

    It was said for humans , taking pureblood's blood was kind of a gamble . A human could die after taking it . Works here as poison . Could become a vampire . Or could be use as panacea . Be a cure for any illness ( as the case of Ichiru / Maria ) .
    Maybe in the case of blood tablets there is a kind of similar side effect for the ex - human , now Level D / E vampire that drank the blood tablet . As a vampire drinking pureblood's blood can't be changed again to a vampire . No problem here . But if the one drinking the tablet has the bad luck to react to the tablet as if it was poison . The vampire in this case could not accept the tablet . He probably don't die because he is already a vampire . Also because probably the original pureblood's blood is present in minimal quantities . But His / her body couldn't accept taking the pills without getting ill .



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    A weird comment : If the tablets are derived from a pureblood cells / blood , why they taste so awful / tasteless ? The blood of a pureblood vampire is supposed to be the best tasty thing to a vampire .

    Maybe as they are a kind of artificial product the blood taste is modified . I imagine the process to make blood tablets is similar to making some human hormones used as medicine as insulin ( by DNA recombinating techiques with modified bacterias ) Is a complex method . The most easy explananation I could think of is : You take a bunch of bacteria . Make them absorb DNA material from another cell which produce a hormone / medicine . The bacteria introduces the foreing DNA information in its own celular DNA . Now the bacteria produces the hormone / medicine .




    Very interesting indeed! You found out resolves for every problem which has been discussed by us here. Good job cheers

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    Post by juliet on Wed May 25, 2011 12:26 pm

    mariangie wrote:A full summary here :

    http://tatsukida.pitas.com/

    It's too long to post whole .

    Thank you Mariangie!! that explains it!!
    Even though this explanation sounds a bit confusing may I say it...(?), at least for me.


    "About the blood tablets, from Yuuki’s thoughts, it does seem that the ones Yuuki is eating are made from Kaname’s blood. Were all the others made from his blood or these ones are specially made for Yuuki? Since Kaname used to be some sort of alchemist/scientist, I won’t be surprised if he is also the one who invented the blood tablets. Hm..maybe this is the reason why he was taking the blood of those villagers before. "


    --Why the blood tablets that uses Kaname are different from the popular kind ?

    They have to be different . Because if the popular kind uses Kaname cells as prime material , they can't give Kaname any nutricion . AS Yuuki told before a vampire own blood don't fill a vampire blood lust . So the kind Kaname uses have to be derived from other vampire source . ( whom ?? I don't know . )


    Indeed Kaname's tablets are different from the type that the common vampires use. AS we have said before it's in the fanbook and the common are BL-XXXV 06Σ. Kaname's are 06Ω. I guess Kaname takes a different type, as you say to probably cover his pureblood increased nutritional needs, that sounds like a logical explanation.

    --Most probable Kaname was the one who originally invented the blood tablets .

    I had that idea from long ago . We have now enough evidence to substain this . The Night Class improved the tablets . But most probable Kaname invented them as a way to survive by his own without the need to drink human blood .

    Until now we knew that the nightclass developped the tablets; "The effectiveness of the tablets developped by night class has been verified...". This is a certainty, now the invention, the primary thought can certainly belong to Kaname. I will support your idea, since it totally maches Kaname's ideological profile > no harming others in order to feed> pacifism>co-existence.


    It was said for humans , taking pureblood's blood was kind of a gamble . A human could die after taking it . Works here as poison . Could become a vampire . Or could be use as panacea . Be a cure for any illness ( as the case of Ichiru / Maria ).
    And in the case of Kaname supplying the villagers with his blood or the ancestor's example that many were killed while others survived to become hunters...

    Maybe in the case of blood tablets there is a kind of similar side effect for the ex - human , now Level D / E vampire that drank the blood tablet . But if the one drinking the tablet has the bad luck to react to the tablet as if it was poison . The vampire in this case could not accept the tablet .

    Nina's remark here is a very good one:


    Well according to Shiki’s words …

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2092-43/vampire-knight/chapter-7.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2092-44/vampire-knight/chapter-7.html

    … and Yuuki’s …

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2095-13/vampire-knight/chapter-8.html

    … I think in their words there is the innuendo that when the body rejects the tabs the END is very close …
    I think that Zero’s body was rejecting the tabs cuz he was near to fall into a level-e status … by that time he was pretty close. However he was able to take them a year ago viz after he received Shizuka’s blood by proxy and also Kaname’s and Yuuki’s blood. For all this time he was stabilized as a level-d so he had no problem to consume the tablets. Now if he is permanently or temporary stabilized … well this remains to be seen …

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    A weird comment : If the tablets are derived from a pureblood cells / blood , why they taste so awful / tasteless ? The blood of a pureblood vampire is supposed to be the best tasty thing to a vampire.


    To tell you the truth and been all honest I am quite suspicious with the arguement that the tablets have Kaname's cells for a number of reasons;
    as you say, then why are they so terrible?
    if Kaname was supplying his blood to make the tablets that means a great disposal of blood of his part each month so the quantity he would lose/ he would have to receive
    its okay, you can say it's finction but then why would Kaname object to Yuuki taking the tablets with his own blood when he is not around?

    It remains to be seen...

    added:
    Yeah, that part was cut off on the original raws. My friend has looked at the magazine now and she translated it as "For a moment I felt the infinite presence of a face I can't/couldn't see." She said its definitely "presence" not "taste". Meaning Yuuki couldn't quite figure out who it was.

    I had not seen your post before so I add it here; you confirm this too? affraid affraid affraid Now it's getting really strange, so we would not be talking about Kaname making tablets out of his blood but in generally being the inventor of these? -presence? in the tablets?
    But if more sources says so...






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