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    Post by Kanamelover<3 on Wed May 25, 2011 3:11 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Yeah I translated chapter 72 myself and thought I would share it, it is the first time I have made a scanlation so sorry if it is not perfect Crying or Very sad

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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by rumland on Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:26 am

    Actualy they are interacting just how I thought the 2 charecter types would juliet and I am a zeki so to answer the question yes you are Razz
    Man it is taking them a long time to do an offical translation release, we lucked out to have Kanamelover<3 here for us bounce

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    Post by Shoujo-Zo18 on Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:46 am

    Thank you thank you for uploading thiS!!! <3<3 X3 I just found this site recently and I am a major fan of vk <3 I realized earlier, "Oh! It's June! The new chapter of VK should be uploaded somewhere!" And this site is the only place I could find it so you are my hero x3 Omg, I can't believe what Zero said to Yuuki... Makes me think he totally still loves her ;3 He basically wants her to make him her slave xD ( that's how i took it.. hehe but that's just me x3 )

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    Post by Kara on Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:55 am

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Makes me think he totally still loves her ;3 He basically wants her to make him her slave xD ( that's how i took it.. hehe but that's just me x3 )

    ...love slave??  sSig_censored  KIDDING! Haha I would LOVE to see that happen  rofl   rofl   rofl  I swear Zero was hitting on her there when he grabbed her and pulled her towards him wub Did anyone else notice the sly little smile on his face...??  Very Happy  wub

    Haha, sorry for being a little bit dirty-minded Twisted Evil (sorry not sorry, actually). But that scene was still hot  cheers  (...cause all Zero scenes are!  cheers  ...as you can probably tell, I like Zero. He's so sexy  Razz )


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    Post by nina on Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:49 pm

    Howl4fun wrote: I still don't get what this has to do with the subject... Zero bit Kaname so he could delay his process of falling to level E. He would never bite Kaname just because he suffered from a wound, Kaname did that to trigger him more into it. Maybe that was your point? Yes, wounds can trigger, but when it means biting someone you don't want to bite (ZeroxKaname) or someone you can't bite (ZeroxYuuki) other factors will play in. We might have a different interpretions of 60 too. It sounds like you think Yuuki was aware what she was doing, that she was about to bite Zero. I thought it was clear she was halfway unconscious and only followed her instincts at the time, which was biting someone who's scent smelt nice to her, not realizing who it was. She then "woke up" and realized who and the situation. Her retreating had nothing to do with their relationship, she had no right to bite him, much less allowed to do it. She's also promised Kaname to only ever drink from him, so it was probably a shock to her when she found out, as it'd almost been like cheating, lol. We know biting is used as a metaphor for love (and in some cases, sex) ("your thirst can only be stilled by your loved one"), so her "Omg, what did I do? I have to get away!" reaction afterwards is pretty funny XD But of course, if you interpret it in a different way, I won't argue with you on that. It's not that essential to this discussion either.


    Frankly I can’t simplify more my point and I have to repeat myself, but for the last time though, cuz is tiresome at least for the other readers.

    It’s so clearly all over the Vk that when a vampire is wounded the first need is blood … their basic instinct is alarmed! If they let it to drive them or restrain themselves it depends.

    When and where I said that Yuuki was aware of what she was doing?! O.o
    why not Yuuki try to bite Zero since she was traumatized (=blood thirst), unconscious (=her vampirish instinct for blood was in alert) and she was in the arms of a person she loves (=that counts for any type of love) and used to feel comfortable with; hence her guards were down.

    … I clearly stated that she was unconscious and due to her wound her basic instinct drove her to almost bite Zero … like a reflex! Do I have to bold every word? Please don’t twist my words!

    Her unconsciousness plus the nostalgic scent helped to pursuit blood more freely (=her guards were down) based on the basic instinct as a vampire! When she regained consciousness, meaning when she was aware of what she almost was going to do, she held back <<< at that time the emotions and her logic suppressed the instinct, not the other way around!

    You want to believe the reverse order, that her love for Zero drove her, that her suppressed romantic feelings were the initial reason. You are free to believe whatever you want. Unfortunately for you the conditions don’t support your POV, cuz Hino has put additional reasons such as her wound and her unconscious state! These two factors outweigh any type of feeling or the logic … the basic instinct is dominated! And that’s why I used Zero’s example to point out how the need for blood in a traumatized state has more gravity than any kind of feeling! Zero overlooked his hatred and eventually drank from Kaname! Now you said that he did it in order to delay for falling into level-e. Again that could be translated as basic instinct for survival, viz the feeling (hate) played a second role here too.

    But I’m glad that you admit that it was also his choice … he drank from Kaname by his own free will in order to be saved. I thought (according to Zekis claims) that he had no other choice due to his wound. But if this is your opinion I accept it and it’s closer to mine too, cuz I also believe that partly was Zero’s choice XD.

    Howl4fun wrote: Sorry, but that's a weak reasoning. Regardless how she drank Kaname's blood, she still drank his blood.


    And says who that is a weak reasoning? That’s your opinion and you based it on…

    Howl4fun wrote: It'd be a bit silly if all this was solved with "Oh never mind Kaname, I only had to use my fangs properly, your blood is good enough now." wouldn't it? That'd be the least complex VK dilemma ever,


    … pure personal impression of how should be solved the LT!

    The fact that Yuuki should use her fangs to receive the blood properly obviously is important …

    Kaname: “If it was anything else I would of course wait for you as long as it takes … but this is one thing that can’t go on …”

    Kaname: “Why you go on refusing yourself even when the animal inside you is this starved for my blood Yuuki?”

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-28/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-29/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-31/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

    So how can you exclude the possibility that Yuuki should use her fangs to satisfy herself? And just to prevent any further misunderstanding I’m not saying that the satisfaction is the only reason to use her fangs. Obviously she had to do that in order to accept her nature and to grow mentally and physically (in power terms) as a vampire.

    However to pierce with your fangs or receive a piercing from the person you are in love probably creates a satisfaction … examples:

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2064-22/vampire-knight/chapter-4.html

    “the sound I made when I sucked your blood … while that sound is running through my ears you’ll never be safe around me”

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2066-22/vampire-knight/chapter-5.html

    “if you hear the sound of Kaname sama drinking your blood, then for sure you’ll feel ecstasy

    And many other examples but I think these are enough to make my point.

    And of course this isn’t gonna be the resolution of the LT, but as an additional reason of why Yuuki felt partly satisfied it could work.












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    Post by Howl4fun on Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:46 pm

    It's alright Juliet, we see things differently ^^

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Thank you thank you for uploading thiS!!! <3<3 X3 I just found this site recently and I am a major fan of vk <3 I realized earlier, "Oh! It's June! The new chapter of VK should be uploaded somewhere!" And this site is the only place I could find it so you are my hero x3 Omg, I can't believe what Zero said to Yuuki... Makes me think he totally still loves her ;3 He basically wants her to make him her slave xD ( that's how i took it.. hehe but that's just me x3 )

    Haha I know, he was definetely taunting her XD I mean, did he really just rub her hand against his neck to try and make her use the bracelet? If yes, then it certanly looks like he wanted to be her slave, LOL I mean think about it, he basically said; "If you don't like my behaviour why don't you just force me into submission?" Jeez Zero, never on the first date lmao.


    I'm a bit surprised with Yuuki however, acting as if Zero is conveniently in her care whenever it suits her. She should make a decision whether to care for him permanently or not care at all. A middle thing is not nice, which is what she's currently making it look like.

    … I clearly stated that she was unconscious and due to her wound her basic instinct drove her to almost bite Zero … like a reflex! Do I have to bold every word? Please don’t twist my words!

    Her unconsciousness plus the nostalgic scent helped to pursuit blood more freely (=her guards were down) based on the basic instinct as a vampire! When she regained consciousness, meaning when she was aware of what she almost was going to do, she held back <<< at that time the emotions and her logic suppressed the instinct, not the other way around!

    You want to believe the reverse order, that her love for Zero drove her, that her suppressed romantic feelings were the initial reason. You are free to believe whatever you want. Unfortunately for you the conditions don’t support your POV, cuz Hino has put additional reasons such as her wound and her unconscious state! These two factors outweigh any type of feeling or the logic … the basic instinct is dominated! And that’s why I used Zero’s example to point out how the need for blood in a traumatized state has more gravity than any kind of feeling! Zero overlooked his hatred and eventually drank from Kaname! Now you said that he did it in order to delay for falling into level-e. Again that could be translated as basic instinct for survival, viz the feeling (hate) played a second role here too.

    First of all, I think you need to calm down. And I think the topic got a bit lost because I'm really confused now. If what you're trying to say is that Yuuki's wound in 60 is mainly what drove her to try and bite Zero, then sorry, I disagree. The fact that she's smiling so much tells me that feelings had more to do with it. But I don't disagree on wounds having a trigger effect, so whatever this is about could we end it? I got confused at your point halfway through. Again I apologize for any misunderstanding.


    The fact that Yuuki should use her fangs to receive the blood properly obviously is important …

    Kaname: “If it was anything else I would of course wait for you as long as it takes … but this is one thing that can’t go on …”

    Kaname: “Why you go on refusing yourself even when the animal inside you is this starved for my blood Yuuki?”

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-28/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-29/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-31/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

    So how can you exclude the possibility that Yuuki should use her fangs to satisfy herself? And just to prevent any further misunderstanding I’m not saying that the satisfaction is the only reason to use her fangs. Obviously she had to do that in order to accept her nature and to grow mentally and physically (in power terms) as a vampire.

    The point of this was Yuuki having to learn to drink like an adult vampire, a.k.a with her fangs, hence Kaname's sentence; "You're no longer a child." Of course, it might be more satisfying for them to drink with fangs but it still doesn't add a resolve to the previous mentioned dilemma. If you like to believe it has been resolved that way however, it's fine, we'll see what Yuuki does if or when she gets the opportunity to bite Zero again XD

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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by nina on Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:47 pm

    Howl4fun wrote: First of all, I think you need to calm down.

    I’m perfectly calm, but I won’t let any attempt which intentionally or unintentionally twisting my words, unanswered

    Howl4fun wrote: The point of this was Yuuki having to learn to drink like an adult vampire, a.k.a with her fangs, hence Kaname's sentence; "You're no longer a child."



    I’ve already covered that >>>

    And just to prevent any further misunderstanding I’m not saying that the satisfaction is the only reason to use her fangs. Obviously she had to do that in order to accept her nature and to grow mentally and physically (in power terms) as a vampire.

    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-28/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-29/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-31/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

    These ^^^ pages were to support the importance of using the fangs …


    Howl4fun wrote: Of course, it might be more satisfying for them to drink with fangs


    The satisfaction part was supported by these pages …
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2064-22/vampire-knight/chapter-4.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2066-22/vampire-knight/chapter-5.html

    I guess the short cut quote was again unintentionally … but cuz is obvious that could lead to misleading I had to step up …

    Howl4fun wrote: but it still doesn't add a resolve to the previous mentioned dilemma. If you like to believe it has been resolved that way however, it's fine, we'll see what Yuuki does if or when she gets the opportunity to bite Zero again XD


    Did I say that it would be resolved that way; OR …

    And of course this isn’t gonna be the resolution of the LT, but as an additional reason of why Yuuki felt partly satisfied it could work.


    *SIGH*





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    Post by Howl4fun on Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:52 pm

    Of course, it might be more satisfying for them to drink with fangs
    The satisfaction part was supported by these pages …
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2064-22/vampire-knight/chapter-4.html
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2066-22/vampire-knight/chapter-5.html

    It's a common thing that drinking blood is pleasuring to vampires, but yeah, if you like to interpret it as it being (somewhat) resolved after she started using her fangs I don't mind. You'll have to forgive me, sometimes when people write long comments I've a habit of skimming through them, I'll try to stop that O.o

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    Post by juliet on Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:15 am

    Kara wrote:
    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Makes me think he totally still loves her ;3 He basically wants her to make him her slave xD ( that's how i took it.. hehe but that's just me x3 )

    ...love slave?? sSig_censored KIDDING! Haha I would LOVE to see that happen rofl rofl rofl I swear Zero was hitting on her there when he grabbed her and pulled her towards him wub Did anyone else notice the sly little smile on his face...?? Very Happy wub


    M..yes, but did you notice that Yuuki kept him in a distance? no need to say that this is not how a girl in love reacts, so that's another reason for saying that the supposed "in love" Yuuki's feelings for Zero (mostly as Zero fans were saying) have decreased. Sorry did not mean to ruin your wishful thinking but I did find it as a good point to state my case.

    On the other hand I do not understand why is their interaction so limited? what Hino has in mind? after all, no one felt the need to discuss anything? I see Zero's bloodlust in the last panel but..this is a vampirish urge, where is the real thinking about the current conditions or circumstances?

    Seriously there seems to be things in the script that remain unresolved and are postponed continiously.

    And still I have not understand where is Zero standing now in relation to Yuuki? is he still on his hate mode? trying to be enemies? or are they just ignoring one another or play it associates (each one of his own role) and they avoid any true interaction because of what? Shocked






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    Post by Shoujo-Zo18 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:05 am

    I know!! It makes me mad how Zero has become so cold... T-T But that scene..those words, they made me shiver ;3 And yes, i saw that smirk on his face. What was it for? We shall never know. Maybe he was just toying with Yuuki because he feels that she toyed with him... Being a pureblood vampire all along when she was his innocent human girl... his childhood friend who he only wanted to protect from the vampires... and she broke his heart into pieces by being one of those beasts herself. I don't understand why Yuuki doesn't try to talk to him more though... she should act normal aroud him and hope he gives in! Is she afraid that he hates her?? Or afraid that Kaname will find out if she acts the way she used to around him...? She cried and said that she didn't want to be Zero's enemy... If he could have seen her then... I bet he would have taken it all back.

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    Post by sweetsolace on Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:22 am

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:I don't understand why Yuuki doesn't try to talk to him more though... she should act normal aroud him and hope he gives in! Is she afraid that he hates her?? Or afraid that Kaname will find out if she acts the way she used to around him...? She cried and said that she didn't want to be Zero's enemy... If he could have seen her then... I bet he would have taken it all back.

    lol! why should she? Zero was the one who said he will kill her a year ago and now Yuki should be the one doing the effort to talk him out of his hatred? lol, zero's the one who's rather cold towards her..not exactly conducive for conversation. And Yuki has moved on.

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    Post by Kara on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:53 am

    juliet wrote:
    Kara wrote:
    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Makes me think he totally still loves her ;3 He basically wants her to make him her slave xD ( that's how i took it.. hehe but that's just me x3 )

    ...love slave??  sSig_censored  KIDDING! Haha I would LOVE to see that happen  rofl   rofl   rofl  I swear Zero was hitting on her there when he grabbed her and pulled her towards him wub Did anyone else notice the sly little smile on his face...??  Very Happy  wub


    M..yes, but did you notice that Yuuki kept him in  a distance? no need to say that this is not how a girl in love reacts, so that's another reason for saying that the supposed "in love" Yuuki's feelings for Zero (mostly as Zero fans were saying) have decreased. Sorry did not mean to ruin your wishful thinking but I did find it as a good point to state my case.

    I agree  Smile  I'm not actually sure that that is where Hino is heading with the LT. Personally, I think it might end with Yume. But, please Hino, I want Zero to have something to live for. He needs / deserves a bit of happiness after all the trauma and heartbreak he's had already (so young Sad ). Perhaps he could find a way to move on from Yuuki, whose heart is so attached to Kaname, and find a new love. Someone who can give her whole heart to him cheers But even if he isn't paired with anyone at the end, I want him to have a reason to live / feel content with living his life.

    Since Yuuki's feelings are still so unclear, a think that mostly at this point it IS kind of one-sided on Zero's part. But I still love seeing their scenes and how they interact, even if it'll never work out between them  cheers


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    Post by juliet on Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:10 am

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:I know!! It makes me mad how Zero has become so cold...

    Well thank you, because it looked like I am the only knowing getting this total absence of true communication between Zero's and Yuuki's interaction. Hino is post-poning that, but if she is puting it that off chapter by chapter, i think the harder it becomes for them to come closer together in the future after having left so many things unresolved. It's like now they both have their mind elsewhere, specially Yuuki to be honest.

    Maybe he was just toying with Yuuki because he feels that she toyed with him... Being a pureblood vampire all along when she was his innocent human girl... his childhood friend who he only wanted to protect from the vampires... and she broke his heart into pieces by being one of those beasts herself.

    Perhaps, Zero has the wrong idea about Yuuki after all I guess; but in the latest chapter he did say that she is a soft vampire, so he starts to see slowly her character there again. And Yori had mentioned that Yuuki has not changed, so if there is a chance for Zeki somewhere, I think that first they must start moving as friends again, to re-establish their relationship and their limits. But Zero now knows (from Aido) that Yuuki is with Kaname and even if he was interested in Yuuki I do not think that he would insult her in this way. Yuuki on the other hand has to deal with more serious problems.
    I get the feeling that the LT is not in the mangakas priorities.






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    Post by Kara on Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:29 am

    juliet wrote:I get the feeling that the LT is not in the mangakas priorities.

    True, I don't really think it is either. We've had more scenes with Zero and Yuuki together, but nothing really seems to be happening with them. And we still don't know what's going on with Kaname and his plans either, at this point confused I'm sure that's what Hino is probably focussing on right now, and we're just being left in suspense, but nothing else seems to be happening all that fast scratch Apart from Sara following Zero into the woods, I suppose that could leave way for some development there with Zero's thirst problems, but even that storyline is moving quite slowly (and has been around for the entire series, the question of whether or not Zero will fall to level e ). I think he probably will at some stage (at least temporarily), what with all the build up (and Yuuki still having not used the bracelet). But apart from that, I'm really not sure where Hino is intending to head with the plot right now confused Any ideas...?? scratch

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    Post by Howl4fun on Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:35 pm

    The plot is moving very slow and inconsistent, not to mention with characters acting a bit weird/OOC, but apparently this is Hino's first really long running serie so she might not be used to it, lol.

    I love how zeki's interacting as of recently. If I could use a scene from a serie to tell how, it's about a man who suspects his wife of cheating on him. The conversation between him and another went something like this;

    "I know she's cheating on me. I just have to find out with whom. Look at that guy's she talking with. Maybe it's him?"
    "No, you idiot. She wouldn't ever talk so carefully with a guy she's cheating with in public. The man she cheats with will be a man she avoids talking to."

    I know it's not a direct resemblance, but you get the idea. Obviously their current state can mean different things depending on your viewpoint, but as of now no one can tell for sure what it is. Razz

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    Post by juliet on Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:52 pm

    Howl4fun wrote:The plot is moving very slow and inconsistent, not to mention with characters acting a bit weird/OOC, but apparently this is Hino's first really long running serie so she might not be used to it, lol.

    I love how zeki's interacting as of recently. If I could use a scene from a serie to tell how, it's about a man who suspects his wife of cheating on him. The conversation between him and another went something like this;

    "I know she's cheating on me. I just have to find out with whom. Look at that guy's she talking with. Maybe it's him?"
    "No, you idiot. She wouldn't ever talk so carefully with a guy she's cheating with in public. The man she cheats with will be a man she avoids talking to."

    I know it's not a direct resemblance, but you get the idea. Obviously their current state can mean different things depending on your viewpoint, but as of now no one can tell for sure what it is. Razz

    well that woman hide it, because she did have a love affair..haha..

    okay according to viewpoint...it can mean different things, but we do not see them occupied with each other at all, not even in inner thinking. Yuuki's inner thoughts are occupied with the tablets. Even when Maria talks to her about Zero, the name does not make her twist her interest on Maria.

    But apart from that, I'm really not sure where Hino is intending to head with the plot right now Any ideas...?

    Em...hard plot...Sara is targeting Zero. Zero needs a way to soothe his hunger, could it be possible to bite Sara? (how despeate should he get to do that?).

    Yuuki's mentioning of the bracelet again can it be an indication that Zero can fall again? I guess because eitherwise it would be no point and no excuse for Yuuki keeping the bracelet or Zero could tell her in that scene that there is no need to keep the bracelet any longer.

    Meanwhile the tablet can play a role in there. We see Yuuki taking the tablets. Sara has altered the formula? could it be? what she intends to do with the tablets? I wonder also when this thing with the formula is going to come out since Hino drags the formula thing chapters now.

    Lately Hino has turned totally unpredictable, it's good to be unprecictable but the hints that she is giving us is too few to even use our imagination and make a plot. Is Kaname going back to Yuuki? but that's too dangerous. I hope he choses to remain safe and as for Ruka, she was very worried and that's not a good sign. Sad






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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by Howl4fun on Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:26 pm


    okay according to viewpoint...it can mean different things, but we do not see them occupied with each other at all, not even in inner thinking. Yuuki's inner thoughts are occupied with the tablets. Even when Maria talks to her about Zero, the name does not make her twist her interest on Maria.

    We have no insight into their thoughts regarding each other, no (which makes it even more exciting) but it's the emphasis and detail that is added into their short/awkward interactions that I find interesting. Like several panels of them simply watching each other, their positions, highlight on their sadness (good example being this one, looks like Hino's focusing on every detail during this awkward/sad moment, lol http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/9
    http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/10 the panel only showing their feet is so cute, lol XD) and then there's Yuuki surprised at herself remembering what Zero said about desiring her blood before their separation, thinking "No, that belongs in the past. Zero must have gotten rid of those feelings." and then gets a sad look http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/16 (among others). not saying all these are meant to be romantic/showing suppressed feelings, but you know, viewpoints.

    About the last pages of 72, haha it's funny with the different "explanations" for that one. I think her thoughts went more as a "narration" than to only being her literal thoughts. There's quite an emphasis on her not so content expression appearing at the same time with Maria's "I will take Zero" and her thoughts/narration going "So unpleasant". It's pretty useless to try and say that the "So unpleasant" didn't have anything to do with Maria's words. Why would Hino put all those sentences and panels together to match so well in that case? Having some fun? I personally can't wait for her answer/reaction, though she'll probably hide however she feels about it, as is typical.



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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by aya-chan on Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:34 pm

    nina wrote:About Yuuki's hunger:

    As we know the blood-lust could be triggered from many factors and not only out of love feelings, such as if the vampire is wounded, if is under great stress and sorrow, if it passed much time from the last meal and after the slumber.

    1st case: When Yuuki had a blood-lust attack when she was alone at the mansion.

    Yuuki was separated from Zero under very rough conditions … he unveiled his romantic feelings for her and the same time declared a ‘’war” saying that from now on they are enemies, meaning that Yuuki had to cut off from her life a very important and beloved person for her (even if the type of her feelings are questionable the fact is that she was hurting). That alone is a very stressful factor to be handled especially for a Yuuki who was trying to adjust and discover her true nature from scratch. Furthermore Zero’s rejection increased and burdened her efforts and I suspect a part of her difficulties or denial to use her fangs and feed properly, were originated from that rejection.

    In short … that time she was unbalanced and she didn’t feed properly from Kaname so she couldn’t know if she could be fully satisfied only from his blood.

    2nd case: The nostalgic scent.
    Now it is apparent that the most significant factor to Yuuki’s blood-lust was her wound no? And on top of that she was semi-unconscious, meaning she was driven by pure instinct for blood, without necessarily excluding her feelings …

    And before the Zekis jumps all over me just to remind their claims in another similar situation … When Zero drunk from Kaname all the Zekis claimed that Kaname forced him to do so by hurting him, hence and Zero had no other choice but to drink his blood! Now if the wound factor is so significant that drove Zero to drink the blood from the most hateful person to him I suppose the same applies for Yuuki as well, not to mention that Yuuki never hated Zero … to the contrary she loved him and used to feel very comfortable with him, hence and the nostalgic scent.

    3rd case: blood-lust on chapter 72.

    IMO Yuuki would feel blood-lust either Zero was around or not!
    She is facing again lot of changes in her life … Kaname had left her to pursuit his plans by doing unexpected and questionable acts for Yuuki, all the world around her is against him, she had to take responsibilities and stand on her own feet, she has no source to feed upon and on top of that she is a newbie vampire who had never took tabs but only fresh blood.
    In other words she is under a great stress, she is hurting, she misses Kaname and afraid for him and she starving! All these factors are enough to trigger her blood-lust.
    If Zero was the object of her blood-lust that would be shown when she first met him, when they cross each other paths at the HA. But no … she didn’t show any sign of blood-lust whereas Zero before even see her he grabs his neck and as his fans claim it was due to the fact that he sensed her presence. Also they intercrossed again when Yuuki knocked down the vampire who escaped from Zero … non sign of thirst again!
    My point is that Yuuki started to have thirst fits gradually … her first attack wasn’t so bad so she could handle it without tabs, but as the time flew and more stressful things happened and as the time from her last meal increasing the blood-lust became more urging and eventually she had to consume tabs. That’s why I’m saying that even if there was no Zero she still eventually would have faced her thirst!
    Of course Zero’s presence worsens her situation cuz he is hurting her and putting extra burden on her shoulders either with his rough attitude either with his comments.

    Bottom line is that Hino carefully chose to add additional factors in every time that Yuuki supposedly felt blood-lust for Zero. Ergo the Yumes can support that there is no romantic cause behind Yuuki’s thirst and Zekis can still dreaming on.


    Totally agree with you. alot of factors stay at a vampire hunger and a wound is a very important factor.
    until now, zero drank from 3 people: yuuki, kaname, ichiru.

    once he drank from yuuki when he was wounded, he did not hesitated at all to drink yuuki' blood when she showed him her neck.
    zero drank kaname's blood when he was wounded too. once what zero saw blood, his vampire desire for blood "reacted": his eyes became red. even thought he hated / hate kaname, that wasn't an impediment for him to not drink.
    when zero devored ichiru, he was a wounded vampire too. of course, his desire to accomplish his goal was a factor too, but his wound was important.

    I think an important factor for hunger is night.
    zero losed his senses for the first time when it was night (the time when vampires are active).
    he drank yuuki's blood many times when it was night. he drank kaname's blood when it was night.

    yuuki had her fits (since kaname left) at night. the first time when zero and yori was outside. If i remember correctly yuuki said something like I am sorry yori, but at the time like this and she looked outside the window.
    her second fit, in the last chapter, it happened at night too.

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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by sweetsolace on Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:41 pm

    juliet wrote:
    Howl4fun wrote:The plot is moving very slow and inconsistent, not to mention with characters acting a bit weird/OOC, but apparently this is Hino's first really long running serie so she might not be used to it, lol.

    I love how zeki's interacting as of recently. If I could use a scene from a serie to tell how, it's about a man who suspects his wife of cheating on him. The conversation between him and another went something like this;

    "I know she's cheating on me. I just have to find out with whom. Look at that guy's she talking with. Maybe it's him?"
    "No, you idiot. She wouldn't ever talk so carefully with a guy she's cheating with in public. The man she cheats with will be a man she avoids talking to."

    I know it's not a direct resemblance, but you get the idea. Obviously their current state can mean different things depending on your viewpoint, but as of now no one can tell for sure what it is. Razz

    well that woman hide it, because she did have a love affair..haha..

    okay according to viewpoint...it can mean different things, but we do not see them occupied with each other at all, not even in inner thinking. Yuuki's inner thoughts are occupied with the tablets. Even when Maria talks to her about Zero, the name does not make her twist her interest on Maria.

    LOL on the affair, true, the woman would avoid the man because she was having an affair, in other words, she would not be content to avoiding him for life (unless she did something and was forever guilty, she'd avoid him) she will eventually do the cheating act when no one's around.. rofl
    I agree Yuki's thoughts on Zero seem very minimal in her mind, as if she's avoiding to think about him? well there has to be a point where they clear things up, this cant keep up forever.

    juliet wrote:
    But apart from that, I'm really not sure where Hino is intending to head with the plot right now Any ideas...?

    Em...hard plot...Sara is targeting Zero. Zero needs a way to soothe his hunger, could it be possible to bite Sara? (how despeate should he get to do that?).

    Yuuki's mentioning of the bracelet again can it be an indication that Zero can fall again? I guess because eitherwise it would be no point and no excuse for Yuuki keeping the bracelet or Zero could tell her in that scene that there is no need to keep the bracelet any longer.

    Meanwhile the tablet can play a role in there. We see Yuuki taking the tablets. Sara has altered the formula? could it be? what she intends to do with the tablets? I wonder also when this thing with the formula is going to come out since Hino drags the formula thing chapters now.

    Lately Hino has turned totally unpredictable, it's good to be unprecictable but the hints that she is giving us is too few to even use our imagination and make a plot. Is Kaname going back to Yuuki? but that's too dangerous. I hope he choses to remain safe and as for Ruka, she was very worried and that's not a good sign. Sad

    LOL at Sara getting bitten, I would love to see her reaction though rofl rofl agree with the level e and the bracelet, several times it was shown in the past in several panels, only now did someone finally noticed it and it was Zero lol! and the Level E issue comes up to the surface again for the 2nd time

    the plot pace is sooo slow... but maybe its just the pile of tension thats making me impatient. bounce the unpredictability is a bit annoying too, considering one chapter hardly explains much yet loads up on lotsss of ambiguity.. then the next chapter trashes about 1/2 of this ambiguity and creates more and more theories... i mean, cant a little bit of explanation/clarification hurt, scratch its not even part of the drawing, there won't be anything stressful to put out a few callouts to explain lol

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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by rumland on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:39 pm

    To juliet
    About yuki not being occupied by zero at all, I know this is a weak example but this page she is thinking of nothing but him.
    Spoiler:
    As for them haveing trouble talking right now it is real ochword for them, they sepirated under bad conditons so she cant realy find the words to talk to him.
    Just like is shown in these images.
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    Post by Howl4fun on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:16 pm

    Edit: About the example I mentioned, the point is you'll avoid someone you're being romantic with/having romantic feelings for when you're not supposed/allowed to. Had zeki really have no romantic feelings between them whatsoever, I believe they'd be able to speak a bit more casual with each other, instead they keep interacting as if they're both wearing masks. That's why I said "not a direct resemblence but you get the idea" XD

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    Post by PSDOL on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:46 am

    well for me maria is like rui and marbelle role in vk .

    we all know that mostly all the characters know about zero and yuuki strong relationship.

    what if maria so that thought shizuka? i mean shizuka was angry and jealous of yuuki due zero loves yuuki , and what if maria is like doing all this like ichiru's wish to see his twin at last happy? remember ichiru always tells zero to full fill his goal but what it is yuuki's love his hunter job? but again ichiru knew of zero's feelings for yuuki so maybe ichiru used to be close to maria and tell her he is worried about his big brother due he loves a pureblood. maria i think knows quiet alot of there bond due of shizuka and ichiru , so i think for me maria is there to test yuuki's feelings for him. after all yuuki can at last relasize what really zero is too her now.

    i don't think maria is controlled i think its her hio blood doing it lol i always so maria resemble shizuka lot i think she quiet has her character .

    about sara i see her control zero as her side i so see it to that she offers her blood to him. zero would accept like he did with kaname's situation . yuuki telling maria that zero is not her's or even she can do what ever she wants i can see that happening due yuuki doesn't want no one to know her feelings for him .so yea i see her act indifferent with this thing going on.

    the bracelet well yuuki after she left zero she was sure that she would not see him again in her life and that her life will be only kaname , the thing she still wore the bracelet even knowing she will not need it again due she thought she not see him again well i think its means something for her , even when kaien gave to her it was like her important treasure she felt with it she and zero might get close, but she met him many times and due she didn't want him think she has feelings for him after a year she told him for level e purpose . so i say if she was not expecting to meet him again in her life , she wouldn't have needed it being closed in the mansion so why she kept it? for me it means lot.

    as future plot for the bracelet well if zero gets controlled yuuki can bring him back to her side with the bracelet.

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    Re: Vampire Knight Chapter 72 - SCANLATED!

    Post by juliet on Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:40 am

    sweetsolace wrote:

    LOL at Sara getting bitten, I would love to see her reaction though rofl rofl agree with the level e and the bracelet, several times it was shown in the past in several panels, only now did someone finally noticed it and it was Zero lol! and the Level E issue comes up to the surface again for the 2nd time

    You think that Sara does not expect getting bitten? To me she looks like she is going for that. And one more question here (irrelevant to biting or maybe not, but what is she doing there challenging Zero when he has his "blood thirsting" problem? She certainly has nerve.

    the plot pace is sooo slow... but maybe its just the pile of tension thats making me impatient. bounce the unpredictability is a bit annoying too, considering one chapter hardly explains much yet loads up on lotsss of ambiguity.. then the next chapter trashes about 1/2 of this ambiguity and creates more and more theories... i mean, cant a little bit of explanation/clarification hurt, scratch its not even part of the drawing, there won't be anything stressful to put out a few callouts to explain lol

    I know, I feel the same....

    rumland wrote:To juliet
    About yuki not being occupied by zero at all, I know this is a weak example but this page she is thinking of nothing but him.
    Spoiler:

    As for them haveing trouble talking right now it is real ochword for them, they sepirated under bad conditons so she cant realy find the words to talk to him.
    Just like is shown in these images.
    Spoiler:


    That's okay but its quite far from the in love concept. In the same way that Yuuki here worries about Zero falling to level e, she could worry about one of her friends, specially if he was in a responsible position as Zero is and being close to her vampires. But in general their scenes now does not give us the flame or the romantism, that it should under the circumstances. After one year with supposed supressed feelings and longing where are these? I just put it in a general frame so you get the point; it's not about what she says is mostly how she says it and what's her intentions.

    Howl4fun wrote:Edit: About the example I mentioned, the point is you'll avoid someone you're being romantic with/having romantic feelings for when you're not supposed/allowed to. Had zeki really have no romantic feelings between them whatsoever, I believe they'd be able to speak a bit more casual with each other, instead they keep interacting as if they're both wearing masks. That's why I said "not a direct resemblence but you get the idea" XD

    Yes, don't worry we got it, but we can not resist telling the difference, lol. Still Hino has either turned either very laconic or she is making an economy in the panels. No POV bubbles with romance, okay, she has decreased too much all the initial hints that she could put even to imply the romantic feelings Yuuki had for Zero example the bracelet. Many thought it was a reference in the past, Hino was playing with it like it was kept mostly as a favorable memoir of the first arc, now we learn that is there still for practical reasons, so practical that even Zero can not challenge them despite his initial intention to play around with Yuuki.

    PSDOL wrote:

    i don't think maria is controlled i think its her hio blood doing it lol i always so maria resemble shizuka lot i think she quiet has her character .

    What's out Hio's blood there, they have a history of going bersek according to fanbook, rofl rofl rofl :rofl, just kidding but you never know.



    the bracelet well yuuki after she left zero she was sure that she would not see him again in her life and that her life will be only kaname , the thing she still wore the bracelet even knowing she will not need it again due she thought she not see him again well i think its means something for her , even when kaien gave to her it was like her important treasure she felt with it she and zero might get close, but she met him many times and due she didn't want him think she has feelings for him after a year she told him for level e purpose . so i say if she was not expecting to meet him again in her life , she wouldn't have needed it being closed in the mansion so why she kept it? for me it means lot
    .

    I disagree with the bracelet but I have already stated my opinion to Howl's comment above...

    as future plot for the bracelet well if zero gets controlled yuuki can bring him back to her side with the bracelet.

    She can only tame him if he gets level-e, not if he changes mind so that depends on how Sara is going to influence Zero. But in general the bracelet use is limited to the level-e stuff.
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    Post by aerah08 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:55 pm

    i've read the translated part.. and actually i got so mixed-up by kaname's true feelings with ruka..
    (Kaname's part)

    15-Kaname: *almost unreadable part. More or less*: Don’t worry about it.
    Maybe the landscape will change a bit, but…
    Kain: It’s not just that.
    The mansion will also eventually disappear.
    Ruka is also worried about this.
    Kaname: That won’t happen.
    By that time, this mansion will already be…
    Don’t worry.

    16-By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure.
    Kain: I hope so.
    If you don’t
    I will certainly kill you
    No matter what.

    17-So well
    Where are we heading next,
    Kaname-sama.

    So what now if ruka hates him? honestly is her impression of him really do mind a lot for him? well i don't think he must not being regretful if ruka will hate him or not since she is not his love right? but the way his speak its as if..he was a bit taken a back like..

    "By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure. (in his inner thought "Oh Please ruka don't be..") "
    why do he needs to emphasize that? he cares if ruka hates him how about yuuki? doesn't he think about if yuuki might be hated him for leaving her so?

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    Post by juliet on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:59 pm

    aerah08 wrote:i've read the translated part.. and actually i got so mixed-up by kaname's true feelings with ruka..
    (Kaname's part)

    15-Kaname: *almost unreadable part. More or less*: Don’t worry about it.
    Maybe the landscape will change a bit, but…
    Kain: It’s not just that.
    The mansion will also eventually disappear.
    Ruka is also worried about this.
    Kaname: That won’t happen.
    By that time, this mansion will already be…
    Don’t worry.

    16-By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure.
    Kain: I hope so.
    If you don’t
    I will certainly kill you
    No matter what.

    17-So well
    Where are we heading next,
    Kaname-sama.

    So what now if ruka hates him? honestly is her impression of him really do mind a lot for him? well i don't think he must not being regretful if ruka will hate him or not since she is not his love right? but the way his speak its as if..he was a bit taken a back like..

    "By that time, I’ll make Ruka go to a safe place.
    Even though she’ll hate me
    I’m sure. (in his inner thought "Oh Please ruka don't be..") "
    why do he needs to emphasize that? he cares if ruka hates him how about yuuki? doesn't he think about if yuuki might be hated him for leaving her so?

    Haha, it must be the same thing with you...since you don't like Kaname why do you care if he cares? (and you are not even friends like Ruka is to Kaname, at least Kaname likes her even though not in love).
    So I hope I covered your question ( no bad feelings I just pointed out the obvious).






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    Post by aerah08 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:08 pm

    well actually i really love kaname and i do feel jealous about ruka.. which is you haven't pointed out clearly.. i thought you gonna say..
    "Oh your just a jealous Yume fan.." well ofcourse being a Yume fan i honestly doesn't like ruka to be around with kaname.. that is why i don't want him to care if ruka will hate him or not.. all that he must care about is yuuki's mind-set..

    I really got so jealous when i read this part.. i was like..

    "So what now if ruka will about to hate him? Why do he needs to elaborate that? Isn't that great if ruka ends up hating him instead and quit following him? and if he do cares about ruka's feeling then why can't he ask himself about yuuki's? like

    "Im sure yuuki hates me now that i actually leaved her with no such explanation to say.. i just only said Thank you for everything yuuki then *leaves* what does she feels about me now?"

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    Post by juliet on Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:13 pm

    aerah08 wrote:well actually i really love kaname and i do feel jealous about ruka.. which is you haven't pointed out clearly.. i thought you gonna say..
    "Oh your just a jealous Yume fan.." well ofcourse being a Yume fan i honestly doesn't like ruka to be around with kaname.. that is why i don't want him to care if ruka will hate him or not.. all that he must care about is yuuki's mind-set..



    But in the other post you just stated
    that since if he won't die then what will happen with the story? is he going to end up with yuuki or not? i think personally (no offense kanamexyuuki fans) but i don't think he deserves yuuki after all.. I can't feel yuuki being happy with him..

    is that how much you love him? strange love that is...






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