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    Post by witlessfool on Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:27 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Disclaimer: I've done this a couple of times before so for those who are familiar with me translating VK chapters from Chinese, you know the drill. The translation will inevitably be wrong in certain spots. Other areas, the dialogue could probably be worded a bit better but I want to keep everything as direct translations where-ever possible. Brackets contains my interpretations of the dodgy areas.

    Also, whenever one character is speaking across several panels, I put them in separate lines.

    EDIT: Underlines signify japanese translation of dodgy areas. See Narumi Maruru's comment on LJ for the details.

    Titlepage: The Seventy-fifth Night: Puppet
    Byline: Vampire Hunter’s Fight and – Loneliness

    Page 1:
    Zero: Kaname Kuran, hasn’t he already decided to kill out all the pureblood?
    In that case, there’s no reason to stop him, in my opinion.

    Back at the school
    Yuuki: Strange
    Rima: Eh?

    Page 2:
    Yuuki: Where’s Aidou-senpai?
    Rima: He’s taking over your duties and have ducked out for awhile
    Yuuki: Ah...
    Because I cannot freely leave this place
    Yuuki: Ah... but what if he does something strange and deliberately annoys the Hunter Association?
    Rima: Who knows?
    [Next panel, still Rima, glancing over at Sara]: Ah, Class President, for this reason, he’ll be temporarily absent.
    Sara: Ah... it’s like that...

    Page 3:
    Yuuki: Please don’t let the Association carelessly aggravate Aidou-senpai
    Kaito: What arrogance...
    [Glancing over at Zero] Although, we already know roughly where that rascal has gone to. Oi, Zero, you saw too, right?
    Zero: They’re here
    Yagari: Sorry for the wait
    Zero: What happened? To deliberately drag us here to the corner of the school ground?

    Page 4:
    Yagari: Because there’s something that we need to say that cannot be heard within the walls of the Association’s headquarters.
    [Yuuki stands in front of Zero]
    Yagari: Hey...
    Yuuki: What are you planning to do to Zero?

    Page 5
    Zero [Pushes Yuuki aside]: You weren’t called here. Go.
    Don’t act like my guardian or something (This line was slightly confusing. The general gist is Zero doesn’t want Yuuki to jump in and protect him)
    "Don't act like you own me"
    Yuuki: That type of speech
    That tone of disgust... it’s just like before
    Yagari: It’s okay, Zero. Maybe it’s a good thing to let her hear it. We just don’t want the President to hear this.

    Page 6:
    Yagori: We don’t share the President’s viewpoints. We hope Kaname Kuran can continue what he’s doing.
    Therefore... we feel, this time, his individual actions will only get in the way.

    Page 7:
    Kaname, blocking the sword: What a strange thing to ask...
    You of all people here have the most experience dealing with vampires. You should know very clearly.
    Kaien: I, Kaname, have thought that you’ve decided

    Page 8:
    Kaien: to walk down the path together with Yuuki.
    There would come a day... when you will reveal to me the responsibilities you’ve carried on your shoulders.
    [Flash back]
    When Yuuki grows up, there’s no way she can maintain her “human” self.
    When that time comes, I think this time... this time it will be my turn to change Yuuki into a “human”


    Page 9:
    Kaien: Your plans from back then have not transpired. To tell you the truth, I breathed out a sigh of relief.
    Because Juuri-san, they would not have wanted this type of ending... But –
    After having changed your mind, is this really the path you’re going to choose?
    Yuuki, somewhere deep inside, still believes in you

    Page 10:
    Kaname: That’s so like Yuuki...
    Please tell Yuuki – if you tell her this, maybe she’ll realize – tell her I killed Ouri-san. Next one will be Sara Shirabuki.

    Page 11:
    Kaien: Kaname...!
    Ruka looks on from the side. She glances up and notices Isaya watching from the window.

    Page 12:
    Hanabusa: Lost track of him...
    Where did he go... President of the Association?
    I saw the heavy expression on the President’s face as he headed off somewhere.
    Due to my excellent quick-thinking (Basically, Aidou's praising himself here), I sneakily followed him here


    Page 13:
    Hanabusa: The President must have found out Kaname-sama’s whereabouts
    Therefore... Kaname-sama could be somewhere close by...
    [Panel, super furious Hanabusa] Feel it! My Kaname-sama sensor! (Basically, Hanabusa thinks he should be able to sense Kaname’s whereabouts)
    [Panel, calm Hanabusa] That sort of thing... I would have done that sort of thing in the past... I was so naive back then...
    Hanabusa: What? There’s a party nearby?

    Page 14:
    Akatsuki, looking on...
    Lady with the tablets: Thank you so much
    Guy handing out the pills: It’s nothing really
    Akatsuki grabs the tablets as the lady walks by him

    Page 15:
    Lady: Ah! What are you doing? Give it back to me.
    Hey! Give it back!
    Akatsuki, with the bottle high above his head: What’s in the bottle?
    Guy, setting down another jar: If it’s okay, you can take this one.
    Guys runs away and bumps into Hanabusa: Ah, sorry
    Hanabusa: Was there a ball or a meeting somewhere here?
    Guy: No

    Page 16:
    Aidou: Ai...
    Akatsuki: ... Hanabusa ...
    Aidou: Eh... you...
    Where have you been, I can never get ahold of you!
    (Can also be interpreted as “I can’t make contact with you”)
    Hey... Akatsuki...

    Page 17:
    Aidou, stepping and pausing: Huh?
    Akatsuki: Sorry, Hanabusa.
    Please escort this collapsed lady to the Association. Her behaviour was very strange.
    Hanabusa: What?
    Akatsuki: Also take that jar of medicine rolling around on the ground with you.
    Hanabusa: Hey, wait a second.
    Wait, where are you going?

    Page 18:
    Akatsuki, setting a line of fire between him and Hanabusa: Back... back to Kaname-sama’s side

    Page 19:
    Vampire girl: Hey, do you know what type these new blood tablets are?
    (Not sure if she’s asking about "What do you think about these tablets" or if she's asking what blood type it is or what. The chinese characters were a bit ambiguous)
    Rima: I don’t know
    Girl: But... my grandmother did recommend this
    Rima: To push out a new drug at such times of unrest?
    Girl: I think it was under Sara-sama’s orders. It came out through Ichijou’s pharmaceutical company.
    Rima: But... how is a good enough reason to take those pills?
    Girl: Why?
    Rima: Because it’s too quick. Did they spend enough time thoroughly testing their effects?

    Page 20:
    Rima: Us vampires are totally submerged into the human society and their politics.
    But humans can kill vampires with no legal consequence. And to casually push out a relatively unknown new blood tablet.
    We might have a lifespan that’s so much longer than a human’s and much stronger powers. But apart from the reputation of nobles, we really have nothing to protect ourselves. If only the Senate had better used their powers...
    The reason for my bitter thoughts...
    (Image of Kaname's back) is because the king of the purebloods have already betrayed us vampires...

    Page 21:
    Kaname: So troubling... I want you to pass that message to Yuuki
    (I have a feeling the first bit "So troubling" is wrong, but I can't figure out he's trying to get at here)
    "It's troublesome..."

    Page 22:
    Kaname: Please... do not stop me
    Kaien: Do you seriously expect me to stand aside and watch the Shouto clan be destroyed?
    "you expect me to let you attack Isaya-kun's house and watch doing nothing?"
    Stop joking, I haven’t yet asked you.
    What are your reasons for doing this?

    Page 23:
    Kaname: It’s so simple, there’s no need to say it out loud –
    It’s just that the road forward will be different, the aim has never been changed.
    "my objective has been the same all along, I just changed the road to reach it"
    Say –

    Page 24:
    Kaname: As the President of the Vampire Hunter Association, you should have no problems with my actions, Kaien Cross.

    Page 25:
    Kaien: Huh, I have no wish to see the destruction of the purebloods.
    (Kaname collapses into a horde of bats)
    Kaname...!

    Page 26:
    Touma: So cruel... I’ve been seriously used...
    Kaien: You... you’re from the pureblood Touma clan, aren’t you?
    He was controlled?
    Touma: Say... how about giving me one last blow? OR In a way, it’s like giving me one final blow.
    (Hard to decide what he was saying. One way of interpreting it is he wants Kaien to finish him off. But it can also be interpreted as a reference back to Chapter 61, when Kaname said “I won’t do more to you than this one last hit” as in this was Kaname’s final hit to him as punishment for what he did to Yuuki. Maybe the Japanese translation will be a lot more clearer than this.)
    Kaname is serious about deciding to exterminate all the purebloods.

    Page 27:
    The man, to whom Yuuki meant everything...
    (Translation may be completely off with this line)
    Yuuki: Ah... In a little while, it will be morning.
    Kaito: So calm... have you taken in what they’ve said?

    Page 28:
    Yuuki: If that’s a way to tell me to “go and tell your adoptive father”, it won’t work, Kaito-sensei
    Kaito: Whatever. If Kaname Kuran was to destroy the purebloods, then our wishes would be fulfilled.
    Chairman... If he was to know about this, he would be very saddened.
    Kaito (con’t): You, also, don’t try to interfere. Although I’m saying this, in reality, you can’t do anything but stay here.
    Don’t know what that rascal’s aims are. And we also don’t know much about the anti-vampire weapon he’s wielding. But it’s clear that no matter what, you will be spared.
    To spare a pureblood who’s sympathetic to humankind is not a bad thing. As long as it’s just one person.

    Page 29:
    Yuuki: Just like your sensei, you should just let all those ruthless words off your chest. If there’s just me living for eternity, all the problems of the existence of purebloods will cease to exist.
    Zero: I’m clearly aware of that. It’s so clear I want to forget it all.
    Kaito sighs: I’m going to sleep. I’ll pass the responsibility of escorting her back to you, Zero.
    Yuuki: Zero... I can’t make any promises. Because I’ve already decided, no matter what, to stop Kaname...

    Page 30:
    Yuuki: But the important people in the Hunter Association all want the purebloods to all disappear
    Zero: Yes, eventually
    Yuuki: Does Zero also wish for “all”?
    Zero: All
    [Panel, Yuuki’s thought] All...

    Page 31:
    Yuuki (Grabbing Zero): Is there any shade around here?
    The morning rays are so painful
    Zero: If you are done talking, I’ll be going
    Yuuki: Sorry, I...

    Page 32:
    Yuuki: Sorry... I... I know... Just then, [flashback to when Zero was pushing her away] you were just...

    Page 33:
    Yuuki: In front of a horde of vampire hunters with killing auras, you protected me
    The pair looked at each other

    Page34:
    Yuuki: To eliminate all the purebloods, you never believed in that.
    Zero is more gentle than anyone else
    Therefore, your heart has not been broken.
    Zero puts gun to her temple.

    Page35:
    Yuuki: It’s okay. If I am wrong, then pull the trigger.
    Besides, sooner or later, I’ll be dealt with by the Hunter Association.
    (Literal translation: I’ll be picked off by the Hunter Association. As in, the vampire hunters will pick off the purebloods one at a time)
    Sara walks in: Ah... what a dangerous game...

    Page 36:
    Sara walks into the scene
    Yuuki: What is it?
    Sara: What an attitude, am I not trusted?
    What have I ever done to you?
    Yuuki: Ah... nothing

    Page 37:
    Sara: I see... Even if I were to tell you secrets, it would be a waste of time.
    Yuuki: Secrets...?
    Sara: Did you think I would carelessly reveal things to those who do not trust me?
    You two... please continue whatever it was you were doing...

    Page 38:
    Takuma knocking on the door: Shiki, are you asleep?
    Shiki, opening the door: What is it, Ichijou?
    Takuma, smiling, holding up those tablets: I’ve got something to give you.

    Done! cheers cheers cheers

    There's bound to be mistakes Embarassed So apologies in advance

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by sweetsolace on Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:44 am

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:
    Peaceful coexistence...right... because that's exactly what kaname's trying to do right now isn't it? He doesn't think coexistance stands a chance... that's why he is killing all the purebloods...he doesn't trust them not to bite humans. Yea, you're right..Yuuki is the only one so far who supports a peaceful co-exsitence, well other than Kaien, and maybe a few of the night class fangirls at cross academy. Do you really think all the vampires will be happy with Kaname killing off all the purebloods, and then himself? If anything Kaname would be leaving Yuuki with a giant mess to deal with. A lot of vampires will not trust her, just like before when they spoke cruel words of distrust to her when she wanted to restart the night class.

    do you really think its that simple? kill all purebloods = peaceful world for yuki? And how exactly do you know that this is what Kaname is planning? and exactly as you said, if his purpose is to create a peaceful world FOR HER, killing all purebloods AND THEN leaving her alone will put ALL the blame on her, which in a sense killing all purebloods achieves NOTHING. Therefore his plan I believe is just part of his grand list, a list even you will not be able to guess.
    for everyone to coexist everyone should LIVE together in PEACE without any deaths.
    and that is an ideology. who knows if it is possible or it will happen in another way

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by juliet on Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:30 am

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Juliet... you said "That can also be a reason that Yuuki gets a special treatment but I tend to think that right now Yuuki is the one that represents co-existence, or the one that can actually make it true. If she falls, who is going to remain and lead the rest of vampires into a peaceful co-existence?"

    Peaceful coexistence...right... because that's exactly what kaname's trying to do right now isn't it? He doesn't think coexistance stands a chance... that's why he is killing all the purebloods...he doesn't trust them not to bite humans. Yea, you're right..Yuuki is the only one so far who supports a peaceful co-exsitence, well other than Kaien, and maybe a few of the night class fangirls at cross academy. Do you really think all the vampires will be happy with Kaname killing off all the purebloods, and then himself? If anything Kaname would be leaving Yuuki with a giant mess to deal with. A lot of vampires will not trust her, just like before when they spoke cruel words of distrust to her when she wanted to restart the night class.

    Yes I believe it, as the song says "Its takes a night to see the dawn", it takes a hole to built a mountain"...

    and I strongly believe that this is the case here;

    it really depends on how to view the script and each action; as a scene indivindually or a whole?

    We say that Kaname is ready to sacrifice many in order to save and protect one (meaning Yuuki) but I see the reverse thing: Kaname is ready to sacrifice few to save many.

    If Yuuki is just a girl, any girl, that for her sake many lives (without justification) have to be lost, apparently the script loses its touch, its magic; the VK co-existence is demoted, flushed away.
    But if Yuuki stands for co-existence herself and she has to survive because there is no other that can deliver that new era, then all of the heroes action have meaning.

    By protecting Yuuki, and not wanting her to follow his lead and his path, Kaname supports co-existence. If he did not care and he was just a killer then he could go unoticed and hide, he could fool Yuuki to be with him, he woud not put up a show (and actually) a tragic one to push her away and to keep her clean.

    Not only because he loves her but he loves and the ideal that she represents;

    A lot of vampires will not trust her, just like before when they spoke cruel words of distrust to her when she wanted to restart the night class.

    That's exactly why Kaname deliberately (I believe) wants Yuuki againts him, so that she can represent the Kuran's ancient role of the pacifier that her familly always defended and exactly earn the trust of the vampires and of this society.






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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by ckaien on Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:50 pm

    The purebloods are Yuukis strongest Allies and I dont know why Kaname doesnt see thst. Alot of the current sleping pureblood families went to sleep when Haruka was still King. thell be waking up to the shock that Haruka and Juuri are gone when its clear all the purebloods loved them accept thier own brother and the vampire concil.

    Kaname is doing exactly as Asato hadhoped he would. Start a war. Speaking of Asato..... His death is highly suspicious because we dident see him die. We saw an injured takuma but no evidence that he succeeded.... Which made me wonder if Asatos going to make a comeback. I remeber searching that scene for a hint on asato. A pile of dust , anything, nothing. Just sara. X.x

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    Post by Shoujo-Zo18 on Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:22 pm

    "do you really think its that simple? kill all purebloods = peaceful world for yuki?"
    Never said that, i clearly said it would create problems for her rather than peace.

    "And how exactly do you know that this is what Kaname is planning?"
    Well idk..he may have mentioned it a few times? I'm not the one who came up with the big theory that Kaname's plan was to kill all purebloods for the greater good since ancient times... it was someone on this site, but i thought it was actually a good theory. Nothing is ever exact in vampire knight though... plans could change.

    "and exactly as you said, if his purpose is to create a peaceful world FOR HER, killing all purebloods AND THEN leaving her alone will put ALL the blame on her, which in a sense killing all purebloods achieves NOTHING.for everyone to coexist everyone should LIVE together in PEACE without any deaths.
    and that is an ideology. who knows if it is possible or it will happen in another way"

    Exactly my point! So someone finally agrees! You're telling me that all yumes don't support kaname's killing after all....? That's a relief.

    By the way in one of your earlier posts you mentioned that yuuki being human is the only way for zeki to happen? I really don't care if she's human or vampire, yuuki is yuuki. I believe there is a chance either way Razz But what I won't do is claim that either of the two guys are PERFECT for Yuuki... cuz they both have their faults. Both guys have a chance, i just happen to be rooting for zero... Razz

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by sweetsolace on Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:34 pm

    The purebloods are Yuukis strongest Allies and I dont know why Kaname
    doesnt see thst. Alot of the current sleping pureblood families went to
    sleep when Haruka was still King. thell be waking up to the shock that
    Haruka and Juuri are gone when its clear all the purebloods loved them
    accept thier own brother and the vampire concil.
    most purebloods have their own agenda and the few who are known are not that involved or interested in coexistence, so far only purebloods became the major causes of trouble in the manga, they're more trouble than help.

    Kaname is doing
    exactly as Asato hadhoped he would. Start a war. Speaking of Asato.....
    His death is highly suspicious because we dident see him die. We saw an
    injured takuma but no evidence that he succeeded.... Which made me
    wonder if Asatos going to make a comeback. I remeber searching that
    scene for a hint on asato. A pile of dust , anything, nothing. Just
    sara. X.x
    Asato wanted the rule of Elders/Senate to govern, not war. he wanted to replace Kaname with Rido to make this happen and facilitated Rido's revival.
    Asato is dead, it was said somewhere in the manga.

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:"do you really think its that simple? kill all purebloods = peaceful world for yuki?"
    Never said that, i clearly said it would create problems for her rather than peace.

    look again:
    Peaceful coexistence...right... because that's exactly what
    kaname's trying to do right now isn't it? He doesn't think coexistance
    stands a chance... that's why he is killing all the purebloods...
    still the same, you said coexistence A.K.A. peaceful world for yuki can be achieved thru killing.

    Well
    idk..he may have mentioned it a few times? I'm not the one who came up
    with the big theory that Kaname's plan was to kill all purebloods for
    the greater good since ancient times... it was someone on this site, but
    i thought it was actually a good theory. Nothing is ever exact in
    vampire knight though... plans could change.
    I don't recall he said it, there were two versions of his actions and I believe in the other one.


    Exactly
    my point! So someone finally agrees! You're telling me that all yumes
    don't support kaname's killing after all....? That's a relief.
    no, im not telling you everyone agrees , I'm agreeing with your
    logic since I don't buy that theory as well. It is shallow and
    straightforward.

    By the way in one of your earlier posts you mentioned that yuuki being human is the only way for zeki to happen?
    If you want to respond to that post, do it there.

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by ckaien on Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:00 am

    Is theere an official english release yet? Its past the 24th and I cant find it yet x.x

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by ckaien on Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:05 am

    I admit Im a little hurt Yuukis not even remotely defensive of Kaien. Shes always been so cold to him. X.x Does Yuuki even remotely care about Kaien as her father? Or is he always just going to be an annoying pest in here life she cant shake. X.x.

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by soulkeeper_pol on Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:36 am

    I admit Im a little hurt Yuukis not even remotely defensive of Kaien. Shes always been so cold to him. X.x Does Yuuki even remotely care about Kaien as her father? Or is he always just going to be an annoying pest in here life she cant shake. X.x.

    Actually I do feel for you on this. When Yuuki was little it was Kaien who took her in as his daughter but it seemed to me that Yuuki's whole existence at that point revolved only on Kaname and Zero. Although Yuuki and Kaien's ideals coincide with each other, it looks to me that Yuuki only believed in vampires because of Kaname and not because of Kaien's influence. Have you ever seen Yuuki once doubt Kaien's smiles and jaunty attitude? Have you ever seen her wondering what kind of life Kaien might have as a hunter who wishes for coexistence? I really am annoyed with Yuuki's lack of care towards Kaien. It's always just Kaname and Zero. Maybe if Kaien dies she'll finally realize how much she took her father figure for granted. But then this does not really surprise me much because Yuuki's role has been trash for a long time now. I've been waiting for Yuuki's redemption since chapter one. And I'm still waiting.

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by Narutomanga1234 on Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:43 pm

    Lolcalm down of course yuuki cares about kaien its her father for goodness sake

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by Lisi on Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:44 pm

    ckaien wrote:Is theere an official english release yet? Its past the 24th and I cant find it yet x.x
    No official english release will take loooonggg, but there are fan translations. Look at the first post of this topic

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by Akaruisama on Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:54 pm

    soulkeeper_pol wrote:
    I admit Im a little hurt Yuukis not even remotely defensive of Kaien. Shes always been so cold to him. X.x Does Yuuki even remotely care about Kaien as her father? Or is he always just going to be an annoying pest in here life she cant shake. X.x.

    Actually I do feel for you on this. When Yuuki was little it was Kaien who took her in as his daughter but it seemed to me that Yuuki's whole existence at that point revolved only on Kaname and Zero. Although Yuuki and Kaien's ideals coincide with each other, it looks to me that Yuuki only believed in vampires because of Kaname and not because of Kaien's influence. Have you ever seen Yuuki once doubt Kaien's smiles and jaunty attitude? Have you ever seen her wondering what kind of life Kaien might have as a hunter who wishes for coexistence? I really am annoyed with Yuuki's lack of care towards Kaien. It's always just Kaname and Zero. Maybe if Kaien dies she'll finally realize how much she took her father figure for granted. But then this does not really surprise me much because Yuuki's role has been trash for a long time now. I've been waiting for Yuuki's redemption since chapter one. And I'm still waiting.

    It's a very interesting observation. It was always strange for me that Yuuki didn't say goodbye to Kaien while she was leaving the Academy.
    I think she used to be cold to Kaien because of her thoughts about her true family, maybe she didn't show him more affection because she thought about it as a treason.

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by Bloodredhead on Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:44 pm

    Wow was such a full chapter with lots going on. Was deffinatly worth the wait to me.

    Don't know if these things have already been discussed, as havent read the whole thread, so sorry if i repeat things already said.

    Firstly the hunters. I have to say my opinion of them has dropped alot due to this chapter. They seem fine with killing all purebloods and i even think they wouldnt mind yuuki being killed in the end too. Isn't their job to keep the peace and help stop any bad vampires that may threaten humans? Yet they seem more hellbent on exterminating the whole race. Their are good vampires like Yuuki, Aidou, Maria, Senri etc. They don't deserve to die just because of their race. Its very prejudice and racist really in my mind. Also they are sort of backstabbing Kaien this chapter having a secret meeting behind his back. Isn't he supposed to be their leader? To me the HA is sort of a mess at the moment and that isnt good with Sara lurking about. The good guys should be working together to stop this threat not going off on personal and prejudice vendetta's.

    Secondly Touma affraid . I felt bad for him in a way but he did attack yuuki without cause and seemed to reveal in violence. Though my kaname making kaien give the last blow he has now pulled kaien into this vicious circle. Also kaname has some serious power if he can control another pureblood, granted touma was injured at the time but still i see it as impressive if not a bit scary.

    Thirdly Kaname. I don't condone his actions but i back his good intentions. He still didnt give much away this chapter and he let kaien make his own asumptions on his actions and plans. He didnt defend himself or explain what he was doing he let kaien make his own conclusion and left it at that. Whatever kaanme's plan is he's staking nearly everything on it so i view it as being vitally important to co-existance, even if his methods are slightly extreme sometimes.

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:
    Well idk..he may have mentioned it a few times? I'm not the one who came up with the big theory that Kaname's plan was to kill all purebloods for the greater good since ancient times... it was someone on this site, but i thought it was actually a good theory. Nothing is ever exact in vampire knight though... plans could change.

    Firstly, i dont think kaname is killing all purebloods. At the moment he has only killed heads of families and left the others. It's not random killings, its very calculated.

    We see this from handagi's castle. Only the head handagi was killed the rest of his family was left. If Kaname was killing all purebloods surely he'd have finished those still in slumber as they easy pickings really. Also touma's sister seems to be left unharmed and only the head of the Hio family was killed too. No evidence of any of the other memebers being killed at all.

    sweetsolace wrote:
    most purebloods have their own agenda and the few who are known are not that involved or interested in coexistence, so far only purebloods became the major causes of trouble in the manga, they're more trouble than help.

    Exactly i don't think many purebloods would be yuuki's allies. Most have their own agenda and plans like Rido and Shizuka did and now Sara. Also some arent interested in world events as they just wish to spend the years with their mate away from it all. And others like Isaya are just spectatures who don't want to get involved either. To me Yuuki's allies are really Zero, Kaien and some members of the night class.

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    Re: Chapter 75 Translation

    Post by caela on Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:57 pm

    @Bloodredhead
    ....Touma . I felt bad for him in a way but he did attack yuuki without cause and seemed to reveal in violence. Though my kaname making kaien give the last blow he has now pulled kaien into this vicious circle. Also kaname has some serious power if he can control another pureblood, granted touma was injured at the time but still i see it as impressive if not a bit scary.

    This is new to the thread as far as I've seen. Nice observation.

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    I think that Kaname initially did want to kill all the purebloods and he still does. But he only wanted to spare Yuuki because he loves her and he knows that she is not dangerous. I don't think that's fair to all the other pureblood vampires.... it's like Yuuki is getting special treatment because of who she is and that she was kaname's lover. I think that Kaname will go through with the plan of turning her human, or atleast try to. She might try to stop him , or other people might try to stop him too. I don't think Kaien likes the idea... But if he does turn Yuuki into a human I hope he lets her keep her memories so she won't be driven insane by not knowing the truth about herself...that would be horrible. Or maybe he would just alter some of her memories... make her forget all the time since she became a vampire, or anything having to do with kaname,so that way she wouldn't have to suffer over anything and be the happy Yuuki she once was Or make her forget about anything to do with the world of vampires and vampire hunters. I think Yuuki would be much happier if she could be a normal girl ^^


    she has to turn human, otherwise ZEKI have no other way of happening so I can imagine why ZEKIfans are so interested in this idea eventhough it was implied he had abandoned that plan. it is okay to be desperate.

    I disagree with both. (haha, i love fighting, sorry for butting in your fight guys, but I couldn't resist a Zeki argument Razz) I think that Zero can only be with a vampire.

    Chapter 53, conversation between Kaito-sensei and Yori

    Kaito: You know, its the first time I've seen a human who is close friends with a vampire and wasn't all fed upon 'til they're torn to pieces

    Zero has a big blood-pill-eating-habit. If he doesn't end up with Yuuki, the person who he ends up loving will need to be a fast healer. A human girl has no shot at surviving a relationship with Zero.

    Even Kaname made a comment in the first arc about how Zero was feeding on human Yuuki with smaller intervals between bites. If the first arc lasted longer with human Yuuki, Zero might have actually killed her. Zero even dreamt of that possibility. The big understatement is that a human Yuuki and vampire Zero would never be a long-term relationship.

    In conclusion:

    Human Yuuki is impossible for endgame no matter if she ends up with one of the two guys (both are vampires) or is the last-one-standing (she remains a target).

    Also, I think Yuuki is getting special treatment because nobody sees her as a threat, even Yori said something similar. I hope that changes soon.

    Yuuki seems resistant to memory spells (she has been through two spells and she broke them both)...I doubt Kaname will try to repeat Yuuki's insanity trip from around chapter 30.

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