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    Post by bearcute <3 on Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:31 pm

    this has been really bothering me a lot? And I dont like it when someone is blocking my mind from saying something when i posted this in a topic before so I opened a thread for it

    like Hino implying some characters are homo? like the crossdressing chairman of the president who died... I think its just one of them.

    For Zero, I think there is a hint that says he is homo. I posted in a thread before , I think he is confuse about his self . He is mean to girls who are just being girls and he is not mean even to guys who are hurting him, like kaito and kaname. I think this shows a passive and submissive personality that hint on him being a partner in yaoi in the future in a "sadistic setting". Very Happy they say the more you hide the more it becomes clear, Zero's actions speak louder than any voice he made.

    For Kaname, yeah hint that he is homo it looks like he is when he slap someone, but I see that is normal in vampire setting and other than that he is very manly to me. maybe im bias. Razz

    if its true Kaname and Zero can get together and leave Yuki alone. its interesting to see this happen. But then Kaname will be so alone.. Sad

    Yuki, if she is yuri I dont see it? except when Yuki pounce yori , but that was when she was hungry. and in a picture but other than that doesnt seem enough they just seem good friends and not afraid to show it.

    edit: sorry not meant to offend anyone, i just want to try be clear on something and want discussoin. Smile
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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by aya-chan on Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:47 pm

    bearcute <3 wrote:

    like Hino implying some characters are homo? like the crossdressing chairman of the president who died... I think its just one of them.


    I noticed this is an usual thing in manga, so maybe hino wanted to have her share as well. It's possible for the former hunter president to have another sexual orientation.
    A good example is Haruka *sailormoon* she was a girl but liked men's clothes and she was gay.

    For Zero, I think there is a hint that says he is homo. I posted in a thread before , I think he is confuse about his self . He is mean to girls who are just being girls and he is not mean even to guys who are hurting him, like kaito and kaname. I think this shows a passive and submissive personality that hint on him being a partner in yaoi in the future in a "sadistic setting". they say the more you hide the more it becomes clear, Zero's actions speak louder than any voice he made.

    rofl zero gay rofl it will be like an atomic bomb rofl but I strongly believe that he's not gay. he's like that because he's tsundere.

    For Kaname, yeah hint that he is homo it looks like he is when he slap someone, but I see that is normal in vampire setting and other than that he is very manly to me. maybe im bias.

    kaname slaping Aidou? That remind me of "slap of love" rofl
    But again he's not gay, he's just elegant in his moves, his status in society request that. he's a royalty sSig_DOH

    f its true Kaname and Zero can get together and leave Yuki alone. its interesting to see this happen. But then Kaname will be so alone..

    I am totaly against the pair kaname x zero aka kaze. I barely accepted yuuki having kaname, I won't let zero to put his hands on kaname





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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by Anneliezz on Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:50 pm

    I think hino likes to use sugestions to make it hotter for yaoi fans ( for ex, when zero bites kaname or ichiru) maybe even for yuri fans ( yuuki and yori or maria)


    But the part where you are saying zero might be homo, are serious about that or just kidding? Really....I donno where that comes from..
    We know zero is confused but not about that.....
    I'm not going to start about his band with yuuki cause that will be off topic (LT discussion and that's not what we are going for Very Happy), but in the fanbook he says he likes women with big boobs so...
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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by caela on Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:57 pm

    Anneliezz wrote:I think hino likes to use sugestions to make it hotter for yaoi fans ( for ex, when zero bites kaname or ichiru) maybe even for yuri fans ( yuuki and yori or maria)


    But the part where you are saying zero might be homo, are serious about that or just kidding? Really....I donno where that comes from..
    We know zero is confused but not about that.....
    I'm not going to start about his band with yuuki cause that will be off topic (LT discussion and that's not what we are going for Very Happy), but in the fanbook he says he likes women with big boobs so...

    Darn, Zero will never pay attention to me then....(or Yuuki for that matter...)... Shocked

    I think Hino-san gave instructions for the Zero-Kaname bite in episode 13 of the first VK anime series to make sure to not to give it the Yaoi treatment....but I'll have to find the source again...I think it was SGK, so....I'm not sure how much you guys will trust it.



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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by bearcute <3 on Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:59 pm

    just to say I dont want people to be uncomfortable discussing this so just saying Razz I dont want to see you all run away? haha

    aya-chan wrote:
    I noticed this is an usual thing in manga, so maybe hino wanted to have her share as well. It's possible for the former hunter president to have another sexual orientation.
    A good example is Haruka *sailormoon* she was a girl but liked men's clothes. But again she was gay.

    I ddint' know, wow you know sailormoon? but I think I remember that there was someone there who was gay.. haha Razz maybe it was a girl..

    kaname slaping Aidou? That remind me of "slap of love"
    But again he's not gay, he's just elegant in his moves, his status in society request that. he's a royalty

    I think its a bit odd to see Kaname punching someone when he looks quite refined (like his hair, his dress, moves....). So yeah I agree with you. And yeah there are guys who slap other people but its my first time to see a guy slap another guy. But in family setting, when that happens, usually between father and son who disgraced him. So I see the same with Kaname is doing. I dont know why they misinterpret this.


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    well I dont know because Zero often lies and doesn't say the truth. Smile For me is a possibility. But again maybe Im bias and I see it through a tunnel vision
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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by Katherine on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:11 pm

    Anneliezz wrote:I think hino likes to use sugestions to make it hotter for yaoi fans ( for ex, when zero bites kaname or ichiru) maybe even for yuri fans ( yuuki and yori or maria)


    But the part where you are saying zero might be homo, are serious about that or just kidding? Really....I donno where that comes from..
    We know zero is confused but not about that.....
    I'm not going to start about his band with yuuki cause that will be off topic (LT discussion and that's not what we are going for Very Happy), but in the fanbook he says he likes women with big boobs so...

    ;) I´ve read that somewhere yet that Zero can´t deal correctly with woman and that it "works" better with men...I don´t remember in which post it was...I beliieve in Zero, he will find a woman he loves

    if someone wants to see this "gay side" of Zero I could say that Hino loves her characters, maybe she has some dreams about Kaname and Zero sSig_censored rofl rofl rofl I could understand it...think about it, no zeki or Yume in the end, the final couple will be Zero and kaname (just kidding^^) Nah Zero loves women with big boobs, well you rarely find men with big boobs, so Zero has to find himself a woman ;)


    like Hino implying some characters are homo? like the crossdressing chairman of the president who died... I think its just one of them.

    like aya-chan already said, it isn´t unusual...I beliebe he should be gay, for me it is good, it shows that even homosexuality is imnportant in such a genre, we have to admit that homosexuality is everywhere around us...many people don´t say it...I like it that Hino shows it (even if it isn´t totally clear)

    For Kaname, yeah hint that he is homo it looks like he is when he slap someone, but I see that is normal in vampire setting and other than that he is very manly to me. maybe im bias. Razz

    No sign of homosexuality...I mean somehow he has to punish others and he is a pureblood --> only natural...I think it would be only a sing of homosexuality if it would be obvios that he or the person enjoys it...I can´t see that here

    Yuki, if she is yuri I dont see it? except when Yuki pounce yori , but that was when she was hungry. and in a picture but other than that doesnt seem enough they just seem good friends and not afraid to show it.

    it´s a deep and old friendship...it´s only natural that you really like your best friends and sometimes you start loving them like siblings...I think that´s the case here


    Finally I have to say: Nope Zero isn´t gay, I can´t believe that, my image of him would be totally destroyed
    Maybe Hino shows some homo themes but not very open, furthermore none of the main characters is gay...so it´s no real big topic in Vampire Knight
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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by aya-chan on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:13 pm

    bearcute <3 wrote:

    I ddint' know, wow you know sailormoon? but I think I remember that there was someone there who was gay.. haha Razz maybe it was a girl..

    I grow up with Sailormoon, it is the anime of my childhood.
    The sailors were only girls and haruka *Uranus* was hook up with Michiru *Neptun*

    I think its a bit odd to see Kaname punching someone when he looks quite refined (like his hair, his dress, moves....). So yeah I agree with you. And yeah there are guys who slap other people but its my first time to see a guy slap another guy. But in family setting, when that happens, usually between father and son who disgraced him. So I see the same with Kaname is doing. I dont know why they misinterpret this.


    Kaname punching someone is really odd. I guess he slap only when he doesn't want to cause permanent damages. For him fists aren't necesary to bring death upon his enemy, his pureblood powers are enough.
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    Post by Anneliezz on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:14 pm

    caela wrote:Darn, Zero will never pay attention to me then....(or Yuuki for that matter...)... Shocked

    I don't think you need to worry there. It think it was somewhere where yuuki was playing interviewer to kaname and zero (at the same time)
    Yuuki was asking what sort of girls they liked
    I think that for his own sake, he avoided to say anything that could be linked to yuuki xD Imagine him getting red, and kaname and yuuki becoming all suspicious if he mentioned a trait yuuki owned xD
    ...(This might also have been on the drama cd, but if you find it I suggest reading a tranlsation, it's really funny xD)


    bearcute <3 wrote:to anneliezz

    well I dont know because Zero often lies and doesn't say the truth. Smile For me is a possibility. But again maybe Im bias and I see it through a tunnel vision
    Yeah he does lie a lot, but still zero= gay????
    I think you may be indeed a bit biased Very Happy (not to offend you eh :p)


    @katherine: haha your post made me laugh. Well we need to remember theres also a certain fandom for the Kanamexzero ending Very Happy They'd be happy xD

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    Post by juliet on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:17 pm

    And Sara and the Harem? now all that harem? I mean okay mercy...all these poor girls going like pets around Sara's legs there?

    rofl rofl rofl no wonder that Takuma that did not want to leave that place...I understand him

    And Aido-Kaname relationship? now Aidou has turned obsessed..(you know that in the fan book it says that "the night before last, he had ten photos under his pillow..." and many more...






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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by Katherine on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:24 pm

    aya-chan wrote:
    bearcute <3 wrote:

    I ddint' know, wow you know sailormoon? but I think I remember that there was someone there who was gay.. haha Razz maybe it was a girl..

    I grow up with Sailormoon, it is the anime of my childhood.
    The sailors were only girls and haruka *Uranus* was hook up with Michiru *Neptun*


    it was the first Anime I watched and I loved it...this relationship between them was weird for me at this age but from my position today, I like it that they did it ;) Although I´m not gay, we should respect this and accept it in our society Smile

    At first I wondered about her haistyle...I loved everything with long hair ;) But her "outfit" was very feminin too^^

    And Sara and the Harem? now all that harem? I mean okay mercy...all these poor girls going like pets around Sara's legs there?

    rofl rofl rofl no wonder that Takuma that did not want to leave that place...I understand him

    Oh right the Harem...it seems to be very homo right? How she look at sara...I´m not sure if it is just like that because sara is their master. maybe they hide deep and strong feelings inside...for me one of the most obvious signs of homosexuality in VK

    Yeah poor takuma...so many women an no one in love with him^^
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    Post by aya-chan on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:26 pm

    juliet wrote:And Aido-Kaname relationship? now Aidou has turned obsessed..(you know that in the fan book it says that "the night before last, he had ten photos under his pillow..." and many more...

    Aidou and kaname have a special servant-master relationship rofl :

    - bond 1: slap of love
    - bond 2: bucket holding
    - bond 3: I am a "kuran"
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    Post by juliet on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:31 pm

    Katherine wrote:

    Oh right the Harem...it seems to be very homo right? How she look at sara...I´m not sure if it is just like that because sara is their master. maybe they hide deep and strong feelings inside...for me one of the most obvious signs of homosexuality in VK

    Yeah poor takuma...so many women an no one in love with him^^
    I know its definitely an indication that we can not just ignore....

    aya-chan wrote:
    juliet wrote:And Aido-Kaname relationship? now Aidou has turned obsessed..(you know that in the fan book it says that "the night before last, he had ten photos under his pillow..." and many more...


    Aidou and kaname have a special servant-master relationship rofl :

    - bond 1: slap of love
    - bond 2: bucket holding
    - bond 3: I am a "kuran"

    rofl rofl rofl rofl It surpasses any other...that's why we see here Kaname putting aside both Aidou and Yuuki (he knows how much Aido loves him...)






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    Post by bearcute <3 on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:32 pm

    no zeki or Yume in the end, the final couple will be Zero and kaname (just kidding^^) Nah Zero loves women with big boobs, well you rarely find men with big boobs, so Zero has to find himself a woman ;)
    it is rare to have a man with big boobs, haha

    but what about if it is , then zero does not love Yuki and prefer big boob women?

    Finally I have to say: Nope Zero isn´t gay, I can´t believe that, my image of him would be totally destroyed
    im glad to hear you say that coming from you. haha I just want to know i dont think thats wrong... but yeah cant help it .


    I grow up with Sailormoon, it is the anime of my childhood.
    The sailors were only girls and haruka *Uranus* was hook up with Michiru *Neptun*
    oh ok I remember now. you have good memory though Smile

    Yeah he does lie a lot, but still zero= gay????
    I think you may be indeed a bit biased Very Happy (not to offend you eh :p)
    what, dont tell me its wrong now to have unique ideas. I dont mind at all, I have doubts about it. Razz yeah why not...
    And Sara and the Harem? now all that harem? I mean okay mercy...all these poor girls going like pets around Sara's legs there?

    no wonder that Takuma that did not want to leave that place...I understand him

    And Aido-Kaname relationship? now Aidou has turned obsessed..(you know that in the fan book it says that "the night before last, he had ten photos under his pillow..." and many more...


    oh I completely forget that! Yes there are really strong homo themes there with the harem. I wonder why some mangaka like putting this innuendoes..

    and your right aya-chan, Kaname did do a lot for Aido... hehe..

    Yeah poor takuma...so many women an no one in love with him^^

    aww. But dont worry I love him
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    Post by Katherine on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:35 pm

    juliet wrote:
    Katherine wrote:

    Oh right the Harem...it seems to be very homo right? How she look at sara...I´m not sure if it is just like that because sara is their master. maybe they hide deep and strong feelings inside...for me one of the most obvious signs of homosexuality in VK

    Yeah poor takuma...so many women an no one in love with him^^
    I know its definitely an indication that we can not just ignore....

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    juliet wrote:And Aido-Kaname relationship? now Aidou has turned obsessed..(you know that in the fan book it says that "the night before last, he had ten photos under his pillow..." and many more...


    Aidou and kaname have a special servant-master relationship rofl :

    - bond 1: slap of love
    - bond 2: bucket holding
    - bond 3: I am a "kuran"

    rofl rofl rofl rofl It surpasses any other...that's why we see here Kaname putting aside both Aidou and Yuuki (he knows how much Aido loves him...)

    Aidou loves Kaname so much that he isn´t able to hate him even after the death of his father...I think Kaname is aware of that.
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    Katherine wrote:
    juliet wrote:
    Katherine wrote:

    Oh right the Harem...it seems to be very homo right? How she look at sara...I´m not sure if it is just like that because sara is their master. maybe they hide deep and strong feelings inside...for me one of the most obvious signs of homosexuality in VK

    Yeah poor takuma...so many women an no one in love with him^^
    I know its definitely an indication that we can not just ignore....

    aya-chan wrote:


    Aidou and kaname have a special servant-master relationship :

    - bond 1: slap of love
    - bond 2: bucket holding
    - bond 3: I am a "kuran"

    It surpasses any other...that's why we see here Kaname putting aside both Aidou and Yuuki (he knows how much Aido loves him...)

    Aidou loves Kaname so much that he isn´t able to hate him even after the death of his father...I think Kaname is aware of that.

    it is very simple. Aido is a masochist. I think he also keep telling that to himself.

    no need to complicate things
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    Post by Katherine on Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:03 am

    bearcute <3 wrote:
    Katherine wrote:
    juliet wrote:
    I know its definitely an indication that we can not just ignore....



    It surpasses any other...that's why we see here Kaname putting aside both Aidou and Yuuki (he knows how much Aido loves him...)

    Aidou loves Kaname so much that he isn´t able to hate him even after the death of his father...I think Kaname is aware of that.

    it is very simple. Aido is a masochist. I think he also keep telling that to himself.

    no need to complicate things


    At least he gets in touch with Kaname...every person like Aidou would like that and turn into a masochist
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    Katherine wrote:
    bearcute <3 wrote:
    Katherine wrote:

    Aidou loves Kaname so much that he isn´t able to hate him even after the death of his father...I think Kaname is aware of that.

    it is very simple. Aido is a masochist. I think he also keep telling that to himself.

    no need to complicate things


    At least he gets in touch with Kaname...every person like Aidou would like that and turn into a masochist

    what a nice excuse! So people sticking to Kaname will now turn to masochists..

    yeah someone hear Aido say he liked it and we just agree. Maybe Seiren is a masochist too. Its convenient explanation why they may like kaname Very Happy
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    Post by zeroyuuki666 on Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:49 pm

    You guys cravk me up rofl rofl rofl rofl
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    Post by Katherine on Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:38 pm

    bearcute <3 wrote:
    Katherine wrote:
    bearcute <3 wrote:

    it is very simple. Aido is a masochist. I think he also keep telling that to himself.

    no need to complicate things


    At least he gets in touch with Kaname...every person like Aidou would like that and turn into a masochist

    what a nice excuse! So people sticking to Kaname will now turn to masochists..

    yeah someone hear Aido say he liked it and we just agree. Maybe Seiren is a masochist too. Its convenient explanation why they may like kaname Very Happy

    ey you see that too ;) In a few years every one who came somehow in contact with Kaname is a masochist --> so many masochists in the world ;)
    Well I prefer staying a sadist but if I would be able to spend time with kaname if I´m a masochist I would change that directly
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    Katherine wrote:
    bearcute <3 wrote:
    Katherine wrote:


    At least he gets in touch with Kaname...every person like Aidou would like that and turn into a masochist

    what a nice excuse! So people sticking to Kaname will now turn to masochists..

    yeah someone hear Aido say he liked it and we just agree. Maybe Seiren is a masochist too. Its convenient explanation why they may like kaname Very Happy

    ey you see that too ;) In a few years every one who came somehow in contact with Kaname is a masochist --> so many masochists in the world ;)
    Well I prefer staying a sadist but if I would be able to spend time with kaname if I´m a masochist I would change that directly

    So I guess Seiren is now a masochist and also Ruka and Kain Razz Razz

    I guess I will be both just to be safe. I like playing safe but make it appear im only one Smile

    to the topic: yeah i think homo themes are common in manga and I think only those who can appreciate homo theme can see it. like when i think about it I can see the innuendo. Smile im not a fan of yaoi since Im a real girl (Im not pretending to be one Razz) also cant see yuri themes. But yeah in japanese manga this themes are really common as inuendo.

    Sara and her harem, i think she is bi or homo too? But she also collects men , not only women. And poor Takuma I think he likes being abuse by Sara and let her control him, I can imagine sometimes i think he enjoys it and the fans keep saying otherwise. I mean, he said he stayed to get information but until now he got none, maybe he's making excuses to keep staying with her. Takuma is a bit of a homo too with Shiki, so Im not surprised he would like a bi.. rofl of course if you take this seriously that means you think of it too.. haha dont pretend, its true. Smile my friend said when you get piss over a joke it means its half true and I see that a LOT in this forum
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    Post by Katherine on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:07 pm

    bearcute <3 wrote:
    Katherine wrote:
    bearcute <3 wrote:

    what a nice excuse! So people sticking to Kaname will now turn to masochists..

    yeah someone hear Aido say he liked it and we just agree. Maybe Seiren is a masochist too. Its convenient explanation why they may like kaname Very Happy

    ey you see that too ;) In a few years every one who came somehow in contact with Kaname is a masochist --> so many masochists in the world ;)
    Well I prefer staying a sadist but if I would be able to spend time with kaname if I´m a masochist I would change that directly

    So I guess Seiren is now a masochist and also Ruka and Kain Razz Razz

    I guess I will be both just to be safe. I like playing safe but make it appear im only one Smile

    to the topic: yeah i think homo themes are common in manga and I think only those who can appreciate homo theme can see it. like when i think about it I can see the innuendo. Smile im not a fan of yaoi since Im a real girl (Im not pretending to be one Razz) also cant see yuri themes. But yeah in japanese manga this themes are really common as inuendo.

    Sara and her harem, i think she is bi or homo too? But she also collects men , not only women. And poor Takuma I think he likes being abuse by Sara and let her control him, I can imagine sometimes i think he enjoys it and the fans keep saying otherwise. I mean, he said he stayed to get information but until now he got none, maybe he's making excuses to keep staying with her. Takuma is a bit of a homo too with Shiki, so Im not surprised he would like a bi.. rofl of course if you take this seriously that means you think of it too.. haha dont pretend, its true. Smile my friend said when you get piss over a joke it means its half true and I see that a LOT in this forum

    to the first point: yeah makes sense. I f you stay both you can play both sides and if you get more intime with Kaname it makes more fun to be sadist, I mean two masochists, that isn´t so perfect right? (Sorry it´s late in France, you can turn a little bit pervy at this time rofl rofl rofl )

    To the second part: I think she is bi, that´s not bad, there are many people out there who are. So it´s only natural that something like this is in a popular manga too.
    She loves collecting men and women. She feels superiour this way. She is a woman who searches for strength. She wants to become queen...now she is queen over her harem. That gives her power and support. I think many people would feel good in that position, to have the power to rule. Sara enjoyes it and it makes fun in her eyes...but in my eyes I don´t see love in the harem. She treats the girls like children or school-kids while she is the teacher and they eat everything she gives to them. of course you can enjoy this in a sexual way too.

    To Takuma: Well I´m a huge fan of him, he and Aidou are on position 2 right now although Takuma is alittle bit in front of Aidou right now^^ (changes at least two times a day^^). I love it when he smiles, when he thinks about his mangas and friends. He is absolutely adorable...the whole Sara.thing shocked me. At the beginning I thought: omg? what happens, poor Takuma! I wanted to know more...then the chapter came out when she hurt him badly...I was shocked and began to hate her, but when the chapter came out when he received the invitation of Kaname he looked awesome, as beautiful as ever and then I began to wonder what really happened...when I think abput everything that happened until today I think that she threatened him at the beginning but that he lost more and more the will to fight and worked together with her (I still hope it´s because of Sara´s blood but we don´t know) although it doesn´t support his wishes. He lost controll over him and isn´t himself right now...I mean sometimes we can see that he is still the caring friend, so it can´t be totally voluntary...
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    Post by bearcute <3 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:35 pm

    Katherine wrote:
    bearcute <3 wrote:
    Katherine wrote:

    ey you see that too ;) In a few years every one who came somehow in contact with Kaname is a masochist --> so many masochists in the world ;)
    Well I prefer staying a sadist but if I would be able to spend time with kaname if I´m a masochist I would change that directly

    So I guess Seiren is now a masochist and also Ruka and Kain Razz Razz

    I guess I will be both just to be safe. I like playing safe but make it appear im only one Smile

    to the topic: yeah i think homo themes are common in manga and I think only those who can appreciate homo theme can see it. like when i think about it I can see the innuendo. Smile im not a fan of yaoi since Im a real girl (Im not pretending to be one Razz) also cant see yuri themes. But yeah in japanese manga this themes are really common as inuendo.

    Sara and her harem, i think she is bi or homo too? But she also collects men , not only women. And poor Takuma I think he likes being abuse by Sara and let her control him, I can imagine sometimes i think he enjoys it and the fans keep saying otherwise. I mean, he said he stayed to get information but until now he got none, maybe he's making excuses to keep staying with her. Takuma is a bit of a homo too with Shiki, so Im not surprised he would like a bi.. of course if you take this seriously that means you think of it too.. haha dont pretend, its true. Smile my friend said when you get piss over a joke it means its half true and I see that a LOT in this forum

    to the first point: yeah makes sense. I f you stay both you can play both sides and if you get more intime with Kaname it makes more fun to be sadist, I mean two masochists, that isn´t so perfect right? (Sorry it´s late in France, you can turn a little bit pervy at this time )

    To the second part: I think she is bi, that´s not bad, there are many people out there who are. So it´s only natural that something like this is in a popular manga too.
    She loves collecting men and women. She feels superiour this way. She is a woman who searches for strength. She wants to become queen...now she is queen over her harem. That gives her power and support. I think many people would feel good in that position, to have the power to rule. Sara enjoyes it and it makes fun in her eyes...but in my eyes I don´t see love in the harem. She treats the girls like children or school-kids while she is the teacher and they eat everything she gives to them. of course you can enjoy this in a sexual way too.

    To Takuma: Well I´m a huge fan of him, he and Aidou are on position 2 right now although Takuma is alittle bit in front of Aidou right now^^ (changes at least two times a day^^). I love it when he smiles, when he thinks about his mangas and friends. He is absolutely adorable...the whole Sara.thing shocked me. At the beginning I thought: omg? what happens, poor Takuma! I wanted to know more...then the chapter came out when she hurt him badly...I was shocked and began to hate her, but when the chapter came out when he received the invitation of Kaname he looked awesome, as beautiful as ever and then I began to wonder what really happened...when I think abput everything that happened until today I think that she threatened him at the beginning but that he lost more and more the will to fight and worked together with her (I still hope it´s because of Sara´s blood but we don´t know) although it doesn´t support his wishes. He lost controll over him and isn´t himself right now...I mean sometimes we can see that he is still the caring friend, so it can´t be totally voluntary...

    yeah I like playing safe but Im more leaning to one side right now. Smile Its fun.

    I think if Sara will have a preference she will be a masochist, in a way the Receiver. She is like Zero who can be mean and rude to opposite sex but is submissive and playful with his same gender, so they complement each other like that. No wonder Sara wants him to be her piece. maybe Zero can also start his own harem, just for fun, I want to see a harem made of boys (like a host club) and Zero has a torn, angsty look in his face all the time while the eyecandy sexy men bite him here and there.... rofl rofl

    yeah I think it is also late here. I cant tell rofl

    Sara just needs some sadistic love like Zero does, she had a harem just for that which means its part of her. Yeah Takuma is in denial I think he is a sadist too deep within, and Sara is maso, he likes getting hurt and staying with her shows he wants it...

    I just like Takuma because he's not blaming Kaname for something he started. rofl it makes him look very mature, and I like that a lot. he is with Sara because he wants it, maybe also for his personal reasons (like maybe he love her?) but I can see that he is very caring to friends even Kaname. Even if it betrays Kaname, as long as HE SAVES EVERYONE he is content. And this is his double nature, he wants to save everyone even if it means betraying some friends but he also doesn't want someone else to do the same thing he does, somehow he is like a hypocrite this way as if he cant decide his priorities. But yeah he's a lovable person....smiling a lot. Smile (by the way, my crack pairing for him is Seiren. Smile I like matchmaking pairs, but I dont want others when they do it. rofl) I think he is just like that, too hot or too cold, sometimes normal rofl
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    Re: homo themes in vk

    Post by sweetsolace on Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:19 am

    bearcute <3 wrote:this has been really bothering me a lot? And I dont like it when someone is blocking my mind from saying something when i posted this in a topic before so I opened a thread for it

    like Hino implying some characters are homo? like the crossdressing chairman of the president who died... I think its just one of them.

    For Zero, I think there is a hint that says he is homo. I posted in a thread before , I think he is confuse about his self . He is mean to girls who are just being girls and he is not mean even to guys who are hurting him, like kaito and kaname. I think this shows a passive and submissive personality that hint on him being a partner in yaoi in the future in a "sadistic setting". Very Happy they say the more you hide the more it becomes clear, Zero's actions speak louder than any voice he made.

    For Kaname, yeah hint that he is homo it looks like he is when he slap someone, but I see that is normal in vampire setting and other than that he is very manly to me. maybe im bias. Razz

    if its true Kaname and Zero can get together and leave Yuki alone. its interesting to see this happen. But then Kaname will be so alone.. Sad

    Yuki, if she is yuri I dont see it? except when Yuki pounce yori , but that was when she was hungry. and in a picture but other than that doesnt seem enough they just seem good friends and not afraid to show it.

    edit: sorry not meant to offend anyone, i just want to try be clear on something and want discussoin. Smile

    interesting topic. Smile Glad someone made a thread like this. Funny I never saw it until now

    Well I guess "its fun" to say that Zero may be a homo to get rid of the bickering, after all the signs you said, he CAN be gay, but that would mean trashing the entire LT and giving way to Zero-Kaname combo.

    oh what fun. Finally the "competition" only exist between who's "on top or who's at the bottom" uke or seme.

    If he is homo, he can only be paired with Kaname. As the rest already have pairs: Shiki-Takuma, Kaien-Yagari, etc.. that should solve the problem. Smile

    Yuki can be with Yori -no COMPETITION
    Sara can be with her harem and leave Takuma alone -but I guess she is bi and she won't leave a masochist wanting pain alone.

    What fun if VK is all about homosexuals fighting over who's on top or bottom haha... And I do think that with every yaoi or yuri pair, there is someone who is 100% girl or boy, and the other one is questionable. Smile

    I think most mangas nowadays that have an opposite sex relationship only feels like its a "cover" to show their propriety, but deep inside (or in an alternate universe setting, maybe) is the tension they show to the other same sex that I think shows what they truly desire. Nothing wrong with that.

    i dont have problems with homosexuality, I just find it cute in the context of manga.

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