caela wrote: What was the correct interpretation that was intended by Kaname?
Why was there additional information in Zero's version?
Hm … I didn’t notice that the message that Zero passed to Yuuki was slightly different from what Kaname actually said.
Could be an inconsistency from the author? Cuz I can’t see what’s the point from Zero or Kaien to add Hanadagi’s name moreover since Yuuki probably had figured that Kaname killed him.
Either way the most “shocking” part of Kaname’s message was that he killed also Ouri … a killing that has different gravity and that the next will be Sara. So?
I have an opinion on Kaname’s intended translation of the message. I agree that he wants Yuuki to stay on the school campus. I do not think he had the protection of Sara on his mind though…
Ofc not Kaname didn’t have the protection of Sara in his mind by sending that message. But by saying that Sara is the next one could indicates again his wish for Yuuki to stay at the academy … is quite different.
And I think this is what Yuuki decodes from his message since she said to Zero that she wants to do what Kaname wants “at the entrusted place” >> the key phrase is “the entrusted place” viz most likely at the academy.
Now we do not know if someone changed this message on purpose and frankly I can’t see any valid purpose/motive here from any of the “mailmen” …
All I have to show is that Cross changed the message.
Kaien Cross thinks that Sara did not kill Ouri; he thinks that Kaname did it but Sara was the actual murderer.
If Kaien convinced so easily from Kaname’s lie then something is wrong here cuz Zero (as you also stated) smelt fresh blood from Sara at the soiree which means that he didn’t inform Kaien or the rest of the hunters about that significant info? Remember that the hunters ran an investigation about this incident and despite that they “closed” the case as suicide they weren’t at all convinced that this was what actually happened. In fact Kaito stated that he was determinate to go to the bottom of this. So did or didn’t Zero inform them about his discovery?
Not to mention that Kaname was all along present at the soiree and he never deserted the place … So he has a strong alibi since the place watched from hunters …
Kaien: (chapter 76) [Kaname] said the next one would be Sara Shirabuki. Although we don’t know if it’s true or not, we should inform her to be more careful.
Kaien to Kaname (chapter 75): Why are you trying to annihilate all the purebloods?...[thoughts] Kaname is serious about deciding to exterminate all the purebloods.
If Kaien thought that Sara was one of the murderers, there would be no reason to warn her about Kaname. Instead, Kaien would be protecting other purebloods from Sara.
Kaien’s intention is to stop the bloodshed … so even if he wasn’t sure that Kaname killed Ouri I think he would try to “protect” Sara by informing her about Kaname’s “intention”. Here he sheltered Touma, a PB who attacked and hurt Yuuki without any reason …
But in any case Kaien has wrong judgment here cuz obviously Sara is a big threat not only for the other vampires who are students at HIS academy but eventually for humans too.
As a result of thinking Sara innocent, Kaien probably thinks that Kaname killed Ouri (the only other [/b]pureblood in attendance other than Sara and Yuuki at the Ouri-death party)
Kaien Cross beliefs on Hanadagi’s death: Probably thinks Kaname did this one, especially with the thought, “Kaname is serious about deciding to exterminate all the purebloods”. Kaien has no proof of this because he did not witness it.
Right … Kaien believes that Kaname killed Hanadagi and he believes that because he was ONE of the witnesses at Hanadagi’s castle. The other witnesses were Yuuki and Hanabusa. Did Kaien saw something more than the others?
No … he saw exactly what Yuuki saw as well. So what’s the purpose to add Hanadagi’s name in Kaname’s message? The only new info was Ouri’s killing not Hanadagi’s not even Hio’s … Yuuki knew about those already and haven’t changed her heart.
What I’m trying to say here is that even if Kaien’s motive was to persuade further Yuuki about Kaname’s killings in order to be more disappointed from Kaname, Hanadagi’s death can’t change Yuuki’s views. She didn’t change her mind/trust in Kaname despite that she saw with her own eyes the killing of Aido-dono and the death of Hanadagi would make the difference?
But what you forgot to add or emphasize from Kaien’s wordings are the ones that Kaien shows disbelief in what Kaname’s says. >>
1. “Kaname kun you are seriously planning to extinguish all the PBs … except Yuuki. OR ELSE
… (chapter 75)
2. “He said Shirabuki is the next one … I should tell her to protect herself no matter if it’s TRUE or NOT.
” (chapter 76)
So in other words there is still doubt in Kaein’s mind if Kaname is indeed planning to annihilate ALL the PBs. And he is not the only one from the hunters who has doubts >>
Kaito: “I don’t know that guy’s purpose and how FAR will he wield that hunter’s sword and remain calm but without doubt, you (Yuuki) will not be extinguished.” (chapter 75)
Also Kaito doesn’t know if Kaname’s plan is to kill all the PBs << going as far.
Another reason for Kaien to have doubts IMO is the incident with Touma. IF Kaname wanted Touma dead he could have removed his heart thus and any blow from Kaen’s sword would be the lethal. But as we saw Touma is still alive. Kaname left him alive in Kaien’s “protective” hands … hm
In any case Kaien seems like he doesn’t have grasped the whole picture>
- He doesn’t know the involvement of Sara in Hanadagi’s death.
- He doesn’t know that Sara had a scent of fresh blood at the soiree where Ouri’s murder took place.
- The hunters and Kaien as well seem (thus far at least) that have no clue about Sara’s tampered tablets and that are distributed not only in dark alleys but also in the supposedly secured academy under their noses!
- And what happened with the children kidnaps and the auction of the young human girl? Zero supposed to be in charge of these cases … ???
However Yagari was right about one thing >>
Yagari: “If the PBs wished to, can you imagine what they are capable to do? They would be the tyrant of not only the vampires but also human beings.”
>> the panel of Sara under this wording of Yagari is the evidence that the real enemy here is Sara and not Kaname … So whatever Kaien’s belief is about Kaname’s intentions doesn’t mean that his perspective of the whole situation is right or completed.
Cross takes Kaname’s message as Kaname’s rejection to being good; therefore, Cross has motive to poison Yuuki’s mind against Kaname.
If so then he is obviously mistaken here for the above reasons that I unfolded whether are originated from the lack of info or from bad judgment.
Though IMO Kaien isn’t convinced about Kaname’s intention to kill all the PBs or his “rejection to being good”, but that doesn’t mean he won’t try to keep Yuuki at the academy. For me these are two different things.
And to go back in the initial question of this thread … I think ONE of the purposes of Kaname’s message was for Yuuki to be convinced to stay at the academy (the next will be Sara) << something that as it seems all the parties decoded as such … Yuuki and Kaien as well.
If Kaname also wanted to convey additional messages such as he is the bad guy here by taken upon his shoulders Ouri’s murder apparently it’s not so convincing because there are trails that pinpoints on Sara and moreover these trails are spotted from Yuuki … Also Takuma knows the truth for Ouri’s murder from Sara’s own mouth, not to mention the new discovery of Sara’s tablets and the caged Hanadagi’s servant.
So in my opinion what Kaname’s “confession” about Ouri’s murder brought was Yuuki’s further irritation/annoyance >> as she already said to Takuma previously >> “What’s pissing me off and annoying me is that he seems like won’t care even if he is suspected by the whole world.” (chapter 73)
And bottom line … this Kaname’s lie and his attempt to uncharge Sara is short-lived cuz Sara’s involvement either with Ouri or Hanadagi is going to be unveiled sooner or later so even if he actually wanted to convince Yuuki otherwise probably his “wish” will fail. Thus I’m really reserved to believe that Kaname is so “shortsighted” and couldn’t predict the developments which will shatter his lie eventually …
But even if he stupidly thought that his lie was valid (which I do not believe) it failed … I think Yuuki saw through that message thus she decides to stay at the “entrusted place” and advance Kaname’s plan for the time being.
the good thing is that Yuuki remains true to herself even with Ouri's death...(that I do not know if she fully believes this point
but it does not seem to effect her that much or really surprise her)..
Oh and wanted to add that either the hunters made the message to appeal more dramatic in their intention to scare Yuuki, either Zero or just Cross changes, Kaname certainly had intended to make the worst of himself with that message the main point is that they fail, they fail, they fail...
all of them, so I do not care LOL, Yuuki has set her own mind and her won conclusion and there Kaien, Zero, the hunters and Kaname's intentions fail...
Haha I agree
. My interpretation is the same …