nina wrote:Very interesting theme indeed aya-chan!
Well what can I say more? I do agree with you. I had always my doubts about on who Kaname was referring to, with the meaningless sacrifice.
I know that one obvious interpretation is to be referred on HW’s sacrifice cuz it was her story that Kaname has shown after to Yuuki through his memory/blood.
But as you also pointed out was her sacrifice meaningless or for a lost cause?
In my POV no. Cuz maybe it wasn’t enough to change the world completely but she and Kaname saved the human kind from doom. With the creation of the anti-vampire weapons, the hunters and the wars back in the past they reversed the situation. As Kaname said to the first hunters >> “Your enemies are those fools who continue to believe they can’t have their lives taken away by you.”
So her sacrifice wasn’t at all meaningless from that aspect since the humans/hunters had the power to kill PBs/vampires and defend themselves.
Also another thing that I think is adding on our speculations > On the cover for volume 14 says
“Kaname finally begins to move. There will be a big sacrifice!!” (the volume 14 is not out yet in English edition but only in Japanese. So I got this translation from a friend fluent in Japanese.)
Now the volume 14 contains the sacrifice of the HW (starts with chapter 64) and Hino has characterized this sacrifice as
big on the cover! How possible is then to put Kaname to characterise this “big sacrifice” as meaningless while it has change the course of the history? Is the salvation of the humans’ race meaningless?
My feeling is that Kaname wanted to make a point to Yuuki through HW’s sacrifice cuz as he said was frightened that one day Yuuki will give up her life for something meaningless and he didn’t want to experience that for second time << i.e. the first meaningless sacrifice was from another beloved person to him … >> which is hinted from the scene where Kaname grieving over the shattered mirror.
This scene must have taken place long after HW’s sacrifice.
Hints >>
1. Right after HW’s sacrifice he starts the creation of the first weapons and giving wisdom to the hunters >>
http://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-8/vampire-knight/chapter-64.htmlhttp://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-13/vampire-knight/chapter-64.htmlhttp://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-14/vampire-knight/chapter-64.htmlhttp://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-15/vampire-knight/chapter-64.html2. But when Yuuki talks to him and names the weapon Artemis there are signs that the period is different >>
http://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-22/vampire-knight/chapter-64.htmlhttp://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-24/vampire-knight/chapter-64.htmlhttp://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-25/vampire-knight/chapter-64.htmlHe is wearing different clothes, he holds Artemis and Bloody Rose in their full form, he is in a battle field, he has comrades ready to go for another battle >
“Kaname san the other side has already converged. It seems like its going to be an even worse situation this time.” << which means that they had given battles already and they were preparing for another big one.
At that point there is no sign from Kuran family … Kaname seems to be all alone > Kaname:
“I can hardly feel emotions anymore.” < I suppose this isn’t an emotional state for a man who has a family …
But since we know that he is the ancestor of the Kurans he must have started his family with a woman … But how he could do that since the HW was already dead? The only logical explanation is that he made his family with someone else than the HW.
3. Also in the scene with the shattered mirror there is one sign of family> Kurans mansion!
http://www.mangareader.net/104-19604-24/vampire-knight/chapter-52.htmlThe door with the emblem of Kurans. Also the crystals that Kaname holds into his hands probably it’s not only from the shattered mirror but from a dead PB.
What I’m trying to say here is that at that scene Kaname maybe had already a family (thus and the mansion) and he was grieving for a beloved person > a wife that she sacrificed her life????
Also as we saw his “narration” to Yuuki didn’t contain any info about their family tree … it stopped just before that battle takes place. Why? Why he didn’t disclose the part of his life when he was king and started his family?
I think the reason is because he didn’t want to disclose to Yuuki the root of his grief/tragedy i.e. the meaningless sacrifice … The question though is why?
My mind goes that what Kaname kept as secret somehow is related with Yuuki and his course of action currently … Maybe he is trying to change the conditions (threats) that drove his wife in the past to sacrifice her life thus he can’t reveal to Yuuki nothing until the same conditions aren’t apply in the present anymore i.e. he is trying to reverse the previous outcome this time.
And IF Yuuki is a reincarnation of his deceased wife he has another reason for keeping her in the dark >> he wants to finish with his plan before Yuuki “remembers” or “discovers” her past life …
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