Those words when Rido said to Kaname in chapter 76,what do you think they're mean?

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"Finally you meet the flower only blooming for you.Though it will fade away and die someday..."

Hmmm...I actually very confuse here and I think they may have a lot of meaning.What about you? Do you think there are some hints in those words?

SassyKnight wrote:

But what I found interesting in the manga was when Rido said this to Kaname "You want to watch over your beloved bird as she flaps her young wings...But you also want to tear off those wings..." So does that mean that Kaname has a part of him that wants to kill her?

No I dont think it means he wants to kill her I believe it means that he wants her to be free but he also wishes to take her freedom away and keep her away from the world just for himself.

heres a page that helps explain.
http://www.mangareader.net/104-40425-27/vampire-knight/chapter-56.html

In here kaname directly say that he wants Yuuki to himself.

I hope this helps you.

And in the future chapter when the two meet Yuuki nor any of our favorite charather dies.It would be bad becuase we would have reactions like this: :[IMG]http://i9 And so on becuase that would be terrible.

Maria Kuran wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:I think it's a vision of Yuki's death..And that Rido has a strong connection with Kaname I think he'll be able to somehow take control of Kaname and do what he wants and thats why Kaname is keeping his distance from her...

And IMO, I think Kaname has a side of him thats extremely cruel and dangerous, and Kaname probably has no control of that part of himself. Kaname is full of lies and won't tell Yuki anything...It drives me insane... But I think eventually he will, and Yuki will finally make up her decision on who she loves...

But what I found interesting in the manga was when Rido said this to Kaname "You want to watch over your beloved bird as she flaps her young wings...But you also want to tear off those wings..." So does that mean that Kaname has a part of him that wants to kill her?

I think no kill her, the meaning there is "Have yuki just for him" keep lock up in the mansion, and chained to him for ever, and well that meaning too the bad part of kaname... like this picture... And if you look well, "yuki", i think is her, she is white dress With A hooded, like a women we know, so hi That Meaning That does all that thing for her to Keeping "life" and not sacrifice. ..

I think you're wrong about the picture
I asked some friends from Japan and they told me this woman could be Kaname's past wife, or we could say Yuuki in her past life, yuuki could be a reencarnation of his past love,that's why he's so overprotective of her!
That's what they told me!

Yeah I agree lilovelilica! Just like in the Vampire Diaries! xD

SassyKnight wrote:Yeah I agree lilovelilica! Just like in the Vampire Diaries! xD

Huh/? It's the same kind of story on Vampire iaries?I didn't Knew that
WOW
How cool

Haha well sort of yeah xD This vampire Stefan is in love with this other vampire named Katherine in 1864, but she ends up being captured...Then like 100 years later Stefan sees a girl that looks EXACTLY like this human girl Elena and he wonders why. So Stefan watches her from a distance ever since he saw her and eventually meets her and they fall in love ect. Its a really good story xD

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:I think it's a vision of Yuki's death..And that Rido has a strong connection with Kaname I think he'll be able to somehow take control of Kaname and do what he wants and thats why Kaname is keeping his distance from her...

And IMO, I think Kaname has a side of him thats extremely cruel and dangerous, and Kaname probably has no control of that part of himself. Kaname is full of lies and won't tell Yuki anything...It drives me insane... But I think eventually he will, and Yuki will finally make up her decision on who she loves...

But what I found interesting in the manga was when Rido said this to Kaname "You want to watch over your beloved bird as she flaps her young wings...But you also want to tear off those wings..." So does that mean that Kaname has a part of him that wants to kill her?

I think no kill her, the meaning there is "Have yuki just for him" keep lock up in the mansion, and chained to him for ever, and well that meaning too the bad part of kaname... like this picture... And if you look well, "yuki", i think is her, she is white dress With A hooded, like a women we know, so hi That Meaning That does all that thing for her to Keeping "life" and not sacrifice. ..

I think you're wrong about the picture
I asked some friends from Japan and they told me this woman could be Kaname's past wife, or we could say Yuuki in her past life, yuuki could be a reencarnation of his past love,that's why he's so overprotective of her!
That's what they told me!

Yes maybe!!! will be so romantic...

Kaname's Angry with both yuuki(for giving her blood to other vampires)and with zero for pushing yuuki and blurting such lies to her^^ i'm just supposing it here ok?you don't need to believe my words if you don't like that idea!

lililovelilica wrote:Kaname's Angry with both yuuki(for giving her blood to other vampires)and with zero for pushing yuuki and blurting such lies to her^^ i'm just supposing it here ok?you don't need to believe my words if you don't like that idea!

well yeah, but not exactly angry with yuki, a think is with the situation that is going on!! but is totaly!!! angry with zero!!! If zero is distracted, kaname is going to kill him!!!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Kaname's Angry with both yuuki(for giving her blood to other vampires)and with zero for pushing yuuki and blurting such lies to her^^ i'm just supposing it here ok?you don't need to believe my words if you don't like that idea!

well yeah, but not exactly angry with yuki, a think is with the situation that is going on!! but is totaly!!! angry with zero!!! If zero is distracted, kaname is going to kill him!!!

I don't think Hino will do that...Zero is one of the 3 main characters so,if they're here now it means this 3 are the remaining pieces to kaname's secret

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Kaname's Angry with both yuuki(for giving her blood to other vampires)and with zero for pushing yuuki and blurting such lies to her^^ i'm just supposing it here ok?you don't need to believe my words if you don't like that idea!

well yeah, but not exactly angry with yuki, a think is with the situation that is going on!! but is totaly!!! angry with zero!!! If zero is distracted, kaname is going to kill him!!!

I don't think Hino will do that...Zero is one of the 3 main characters so,if they're here now it means this 3 are the remaining pieces to kaname's secret

But that´s is the point, he will not distract!!! i hope!!!

rido was just telling kaname the truth about his love for yuki kaname has a very vampreic way of loveing.it is in a vampires genes to want blood, so for a vampire to be in love the feeling they get when they are with that person is not any thing a human could comprhend. for a vampire in love(kaname) not drink evry drop of blood in yukis body is like not driking for days and when you get a bottle of water you are only alloued to drink half of it.


another thing
kaname is very protective of yuki he treats her as if she was made of glass and could shatter at any moment....
in many ways kaname is very much like rido him self, because rido loved juri soo much that he wanted her life,sole,body all that she was. kaname is the same he wants yuki soo badly that he is willing to put the hole world in dager for her.
hope that made sence

yukikuran90210 wrote:rido was just telling kaname the truth about his love for yuki kaname has a very vampreic way of loveing.it is in a vampires genes to want blood, so for a vampire to be in love the feeling they get when they are with that person is not any thing a human could comprhend. for a vampire in love(kaname) not drink evry drop of blood in yukis body is like not driking for days and when you get a bottle of water you are only alloued to drink half of it.


another thing
kaname is very protective of yuki he treats her as if she was made of glass and could shatter at any moment....
in many ways kaname is very much like rido him self, because rido loved juri soo much that he wanted her life,sole,body all that she was. kaname is the same he wants yuki soo badly that he is willing to put the hole world in dager for her.
hope that made sence

I loved what you said...that's everything i think of rido and kaname(both of them loved their woman so much,that just by sucking her blood entirely wouldn't be enough...that's the vampire side that calls...
but if you see clearly both of them are romantic in a strange way
but kaname surely treasures yuuki very much...just like edward from breaking dawn treasures bella^^(the sex scene was so hot too)i was thinking of yuuki doing it with kaname that time...

lililovelilica wrote:

yukikuran90210 wrote:rido was just telling kaname the truth about his love for yuki kaname has a very vampreic way of loveing.it is in a vampires genes to want blood, so for a vampire to be in love the feeling they get when they are with that person is not any thing a human could comprhend. for a vampire in love(kaname) not drink evry drop of blood in yukis body is like not driking for days and when you get a bottle of water you are only alloued to drink half of it.


another thing
kaname is very protective of yuki he treats her as if she was made of glass and could shatter at any moment....
in many ways kaname is very much like rido him self, because rido loved juri soo much that he wanted her life,sole,body all that she was. kaname is the same he wants yuki soo badly that he is willing to put the hole world in dager for her.
hope that made sence

I loved what you said...that's everything i think of rido and kaname(both of them loved their woman so much,that just by sucking her blood entirely wouldn't be enough...that's the vampire side that calls...
but if you see clearly both of them are romantic in a strange way
but kaname surely treasures yuuki very much...just like edward from breaking dawn treasures bella^^(the sex scene was so hot too)i was thinking of yuuki doing it with kaname that time...

Haha, go again to discuss issues perverts! lol

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

yukikuran90210 wrote:rido was just telling kaname the truth about his love for yuki kaname has a very vampreic way of loveing.it is in a vampires genes to want blood, so for a vampire to be in love the feeling they get when they are with that person is not any thing a human could comprhend. for a vampire in love(kaname) not drink evry drop of blood in yukis body is like not driking for days and when you get a bottle of water you are only alloued to drink half of it.


another thing
kaname is very protective of yuki he treats her as if she was made of glass and could shatter at any moment....
in many ways kaname is very much like rido him self, because rido loved juri soo much that he wanted her life,sole,body all that she was. kaname is the same he wants yuki soo badly that he is willing to put the hole world in dager for her.
hope that made sence

I loved what you said...that's everything i think of rido and kaname(both of them loved their woman so much,that just by sucking her blood entirely wouldn't be enough...that's the vampire side that calls...
but if you see clearly both of them are romantic in a strange way
but kaname surely treasures yuuki very much...just like edward from breaking dawn treasures bella^^(the sex scene was so hot too)i was thinking of yuuki doing it with kaname that time...

Haha, go again to discuss issues perverts! lol

Well i'm a yaoi lover so..that's what you would expect of my mind...but i also have a very romantic way of thinking like that:kaname in chapter 79 goes to yuuki and hugs her,say to her he's sorry for hurting her feelings,then kiss her,grab her hand and takes her inside some room to explain everything about his plans...

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
I loved what you said...that's everything i think of rido and kaname(both of them loved their woman so much,that just by sucking her blood entirely wouldn't be enough...that's the vampire side that calls...
but if you see clearly both of them are romantic in a strange way
but kaname surely treasures yuuki very much...just like edward from breaking dawn treasures bella^^(the sex scene was so hot too)i was thinking of yuuki doing it with kaname that time...

Haha, go again to discuss issues perverts! lol

Well i'm a yaoi lover so..that's what you would expect of my mind...but i also have a very romantic way of thinking like that:kaname in chapter 79 goes to yuuki and hugs her,say to her he's sorry for hurting her feelings,then kiss her,grab her hand and takes her inside some room to explain everything about his plans...

oh! God here we go again .... LOL

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:


Haha, go again to discuss issues perverts! lol

Well i'm a yaoi lover so..that's what you would expect of my mind...but i also have a very romantic way of thinking like that:kaname in chapter 79 goes to yuuki and hugs her,say to her he's sorry for hurting her feelings,then kiss her,grab her hand and takes her inside some room to explain everything about his plans...

oh! God here we go again .... LOL

hehe...don't worry...i don't think that way(yaoi)on Vampire Knight,i'm a total shoujo fan too^^ i am a SUPER YUME FAN!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
Well i'm a yaoi lover so..that's what you would expect of my mind...but i also have a very romantic way of thinking like that:kaname in chapter 79 goes to yuuki and hugs her,say to her he's sorry for hurting her feelings,then kiss her,grab her hand and takes her inside some room to explain everything about his plans...

oh! God here we go again .... LOL

hehe...don't worry...i don't think that way(yaoi)on Vampire Knight,i'm a total shoujo fan too^^ i am a SUPER YUME FAN!

JAJAJAJ i´m kidding!!! I´m Shojo Fan too!!! and this make the topic more interting!!! hahaha And Of course YUME 4EVER AND EVER!!!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

oh! God here we go again .... LOL

hehe...don't worry...i don't think that way(yaoi)on Vampire Knight,i'm a total shoujo fan too^^ i am a SUPER YUME FAN!

JAJAJAJ i´m kidding!!! I´m Shojo Fan too!!! and this make the topic more interting!!! hahaha And Of course YUME 4EVER AND EVER!!!

Back to the topic...after what Rido said,what were your opinions,i think that his feeelings for Juuri were a type of love that's different from Kaname but the desire was the SAME!
hum...and he said that Kaname have many contradictions inside him,that includes what he's doing(killing Aidou-san)when he doesn't want to do that...and many other things like leaving Yuuki...etc?

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
hehe...don't worry...i don't think that way(yaoi)on Vampire Knight,i'm a total shoujo fan too^^ i am a SUPER YUME FAN!

JAJAJAJ i´m kidding!!! I´m Shojo Fan too!!! and this make the topic more interting!!! hahaha And Of course YUME 4EVER AND EVER!!!

Back to the topic...after what Rido said,what were your opinions,i think that his feeelings for Juuri were a type of love that's different from Kaname but the desire was the SAME!
hum...and he said that Kaname have many contradictions inside him,that includes what he's doing(killing Aidou-san)when he doesn't want to do that...and many other things like leaving Yuuki...etc?

As I said before, Rido is all the evil that insists on Kaname. And that evil part can be mixed with his love to Yuki, would become the desire to drink her blood, then I will not be equal, is that part of rido is kaname ... Only really bad part, because Kaname has to hide that part of him!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

JAJAJAJ i´m kidding!!! I´m Shojo Fan too!!! and this make the topic more interting!!! hahaha And Of course YUME 4EVER AND EVER!!!

Back to the topic...after what Rido said,what were your opinions,i think that his feeelings for Juuri were a type of love that's different from Kaname but the desire was the SAME!
hum...and he said that Kaname have many contradictions inside him,that includes what he's doing(killing Aidou-san)when he doesn't want to do that...and many other things like leaving Yuuki...etc?

As I said before, Rido is all the evil that insists on Kaname. And that evil part can be mixed with his love to Yuki, would become the desire to drink her blood, then I will not be equal, is that part of rido is kaname ... Only really bad part, because Kaname has to hide that part of him!

sO COULD WE SAY THAT kANAME have many sides,and his Evil side is Rido,so who's his kind side?maybe he got some from Shizuka?and the others vampires and humans that he sucked blood?we have the information:Pureblood vampires can take the memories from other vampires and humans when sucking their bloods...so Kaname changed after he met the Hooded Woman and sucked her blood right?
So Rido is also included?

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
Back to the topic...after what Rido said,what were your opinions,i think that his feeelings for Juuri were a type of love that's different from Kaname but the desire was the SAME!
hum...and he said that Kaname have many contradictions inside him,that includes what he's doing(killing Aidou-san)when he doesn't want to do that...and many other things like leaving Yuuki...etc?

As I said before, Rido is all the evil that insists on Kaname. And that evil part can be mixed with his love to Yuki, would become the desire to drink her blood, then I will not be equal, is that part of rido is kaname ... Only really bad part, because Kaname has to hide that part of him!

sO COULD WE SAY THAT kANAME have many sides,and his Evil side is Rido,so who's his kind side?maybe he got some from Shizuka?and the others vampires and humans that he sucked blood?we have the information:Pureblood vampires can take the memories from other vampires and humans when sucking their bloods...so Kaname changed after he met the Hooded Woman and sucked her blood right?
So Rido is also included?

yes, maybe that's a good deduction, but the most defining aspect of Kaname is his bad side, meaning "Rido" ...

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

As I said before, Rido is all the evil that insists on Kaname. And that evil part can be mixed with his love to Yuki, would become the desire to drink her blood, then I will not be equal, is that part of rido is kaname ... Only really bad part, because Kaname has to hide that part of him!

sO COULD WE SAY THAT kANAME have many sides,and his Evil side is Rido,so who's his kind side?maybe he got some from Shizuka?and the others vampires and humans that he sucked blood?we have the information:Pureblood vampires can take the memories from other vampires and humans when sucking their bloods...so Kaname changed after he met the Hooded Woman and sucked her blood right?
So Rido is also included?

yes, maybe that's a good deduction, but the most defining aspect of Kaname is his bad side, meaning "Rido" ...

But Kaname also "had" the Kurans baby blood,so he has the kind and good side,both from Yuuki and the baby?

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
sO COULD WE SAY THAT kANAME have many sides,and his Evil side is Rido,so who's his kind side?maybe he got some from Shizuka?and the others vampires and humans that he sucked blood?we have the information:Pureblood vampires can take the memories from other vampires and humans when sucking their bloods...so Kaname changed after he met the Hooded Woman and sucked her blood right?
So Rido is also included?

yes, maybe that's a good deduction, but the most defining aspect of Kaname is his bad side, meaning "Rido" ...

But Kaname also "had" the Kurans baby blood,so he has the kind and good side,both from Yuuki and the baby?

Well, I do not think, just saying that because he always keeps saying its bad side is Rido ... I take it as if indeed, after that Rido is Kaname's body, Rido then controls that part of him.

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

yes, maybe that's a good deduction, but the most defining aspect of Kaname is his bad side, meaning "Rido" ...

But Kaname also "had" the Kurans baby blood,so he has the kind and good side,both from Yuuki and the baby?

Well, I do not think, just saying that because he always keeps saying its bad side is Rido ... I take it as if indeed, after that Rido is Kaname's body, Rido then controls that part of him.

But Kaname could always control himself from Rido...so that he won't hurt Yuuki,but he's making some distance from her,maybe it could be that he's afraid to hurt her because of Rido and Sara's battle?
he REALLY treasures her very much!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
But Kaname also "had" the Kurans baby blood,so he has the kind and good side,both from Yuuki and the baby?

Well, I do not think, just saying that because he always keeps saying its bad side is Rido ... I take it as if indeed, after that Rido is Kaname's body, Rido then controls that part of him.

But Kaname could always control himself from Rido...so that he won't hurt Yuuki,but he's making some distance from her,maybe it could be that he's afraid to hurt her because of Rido and Sara's battle?


he REALLY treasures her very much!

So that means us,that the bad part of Kaname is being controlled by Rido, then for that reason Kaname is running form Yuki to control that part and not leave lose his control of it?

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

Well, I do not think, just saying that because he always keeps saying its bad side is Rido ... I take it as if indeed, after that Rido is Kaname's body, Rido then controls that part of him.

But Kaname could always control himself from Rido...so that he won't hurt Yuuki,but he's making some distance from her,maybe it could be that he's afraid to hurt her because of Rido and Sara's battle?


he REALLY treasures her very much!

So that means us,that the bad part of Kaname is being controlled by Rido, then for that reason Kaname is running form Yuki to control that part and not leave lose his control of it?

Yes it's exactly that...it's what i'm trying to say to you...even if Kaname is in control of Rido now...he could lose his control and hurt his little "bird"...that's why he sent her "free" aside from just making her stay at the mansion as a prisioner ...making her all for him!she would be his queen and woman forever there