Yuki's feelings for Kaname: a real love or a brotherly love?
Yuki's feelings for Zero: a real love or just a pure sympathy?
Though Im already decided on who yuki loves more, I still want to hear your opinions.
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nuitetoile21 wrote:oh what a difficult question!!
well let see the facts:
Yuuki for ten years was in love with Kaname. I don't think that this feeling can easily change although now she believes that Kaname is her brother and she grew up as a human (so she has human moral values). So I believe that she is still in love with him but the fact that he is her brother makes her feel that this feeling she has is wrong.
For Zero I believe that she feels sympathy and friendship. I am not sure if she feels something more than this. When she met him she wanted to protect him and she done that for the last 4 years (and the same did Zero for her). but where is love? Except one kiss I don't see anything more. I believe that all is on her mind (the love for Zero). She might don't know how to handle the things with Kaname and she finds in Zero faces a solution or something like that.
juliet wrote:M, that's an interesting question. I do not remember in which chapter it was, but I think it was called "Dillema" where Yuuki said that a chunk of her heart is still attached to Zero. The question is do we believe her? I will say yes because when she said that she was speaking to herself and plus when she stops thinking about Zero, she craves for Kaname's blood saying that " I feel like drinking him to his limits", so her feelings there for kaname are pictured far more intense than her feelings fot Zero.
So I believe that she is by far in love with Kaname (after all in ten volumes her love for Kaname was the only thing that we've been hearing of) than with Zero.
I believe that she is attracted to Zero, she has not seen him for a year so of course she is going to be missing him, his scent, his present, his touch, they've been through so many things together and on top of that I believe that she feels bad about the way they were separated like enemies. So there are still emotions left behind and many things that these two people should shorten out.
So they definetely need to meet and to have the chance to speak about their feelings, in that way I believe that Yuuki will understand that her feelings for Zero is more these of a hurt friend than these of a hurt lover.
I do not know about Zero though, I think that one year now he is trying to forget her, and it would also be hard for him a confrontation of that sort (if that ever happens of course).
anna wrote:
Zero on the other hand was the one who lived with her everyday for 4 years, he was the closest person to her apart from Cross and Kaname, and she definitely has feelings for him too. The big question is if those feelings are more powerful than the feelings for Kaname....I don't think so, but the only way to truly figure this out is for Zeki to have a shot..I mean, we have seen Yume in a relationship, the only way to make the comparison is to see Zeki in action as a couple too.
cleone wrote:
I too, thinks that Yuki love Kaname more. I think Yuki is mistaking his feelings for zero as love when in truth it is just a pure sympathy. Anyways, I dont remeber in what chapter in anime is this when zero told yuki that he knows by the way yuki's blood taste that it is Kaname yuki wants (I dont quiet think if the blood can lie) Also everytime Kaname is in front of Yuki, she stammers and eventually lose for words (im not sure if this is cause by fear for Kaname or just like the normal thing you do when you're inlove).
I think Yuki must fix this contradictions in her. You know, when doesn't resolve this one, she might lose both. Who's with me?
juliet wrote:cleone wrote:
I too, thinks that Yuki love Kaname more. I think Yuki is mistaking his feelings for zero as love when in truth it is just a pure sympathy. Anyways, I dont remeber in what chapter in anime is this when zero told yuki that he knows by the way yuki's blood taste that it is Kaname yuki wants (I dont quiet think if the blood can lie) Also everytime Kaname is in front of Yuki, she stammers and eventually lose for words (im not sure if this is cause by fear for Kaname or just like the normal thing you do when you're inlove).
I think Yuki must fix this contradictions in her. You know, when doesn't resolve this one, she might lose both. Who's with me?
LOL and she blushes too even when she kisses her after so long time, as he says, yes I am definetely with you, if she does not sort out her feelings she will make a mess with both of them and they do not deserve it.
Zero is having a very hard time coping with his double nature ans Kaname just loves her too much to go through a separation and stand up to it, the way Zero does now, so if she insists in this mix love, she will break both of them. Eventually her dillema and contradiction is far more dangerous for the boys...At least Kaname swallows it within their relationship because he has no other choice (good boy Kaname). But what about Zero would he accept her when she knows that her feelings for Kaname are too strong to ignore and on top of that she is pureblood vampire? They are too many obstacles for Zero to overview in order for them to become a couple in canon..
Zeki008 wrote:I think what she feels for Kaname is just of admiration. Almost just the same as how those night class students feel for him. Just like of a Fan. But because she think of him like a really great person/vampire she feel so lucky and still can't believe that someone like him will love her.
and then after finding out who he really was, her feeling did get mixed up. The feeling of admiration, feeling of being grateful cause she think of him as her savior and the feeling of love for a brother since they were like brother and sister when they were younger.
So what she feels for Zero, maybe at first she feel sorry for him but as time goes that feeling is starting to grow. Maybe just like of love for a best friend or a brother too or maybe something more.
that's sympathy. IMO. or sibling feelings. she said she treated him like a lil brother, but didnt say it was more than that.Because she did a lot for Zero. She said that she trust Kaname but still scared at him and started to keep secret from him.
She didn't mind letting zero drink her blood even though she knows that Kaname might get mad or disappointed. She is willing to be bite by the mad vampire knowing that if she do that she will turn into vampire or die just for zero.
she has conflicts with zero, so she cant be satisfied fully.Even though she drink kaname's blood she still feel so hungry but after drinking zero's blood she calmed down.
yes. because she wants to keep being friends with him.She want to run away from zero so that he will have reason to live.
LOL.So i think she loves zero more.But just don't realize it yet because she still being blinded with how she feel for kaname thinking that it is "love"
So i think she loves zero more.But just don't realize it yet because she still being blinded with how she feel for kaname thinking that it is "love"
sweetsolace wrote:Zeki008 wrote:I think what she feels for Kaname is just of admiration. Almost just the same as how those night class students feel for him. Just like of a Fan. But because she think of him like a really great person/vampire she feel so lucky and still can't believe that someone like him will love her.
and then after finding out who he really was, her feeling did get mixed up. The feeling of admiration, feeling of being grateful cause she think of him as her savior and the feeling of love for a brother since they were like brother and sister when they were younger.
So what she feels for Zero, maybe at first she feel sorry for him but as time goes that feeling is starting to grow. Maybe just like of love for a best friend or a brother too or maybe something more.
so. Even her heart reacts to admiration and respect? Lol. She skips a beat whenever she sees him, her heart reacts so badly at times she couldn't breath, and when he asked her to be a vampire she hardly hesitated saying yes, hmm I find it hard to believe such strong feelings were just Admiration and respect.. or it could carry on for 10 years and more, even after she lost her memories. I think she does respect him, she calls him -sama, but that's just a part of the whole of her feelings.
Admiration and respect can change for a person, if what they "admire or respect" is lost in that person they start to lose that feeling. For example if Yuki "admired" Kaname for his long hair and he cut it short, she would lose that admiration; or if Yuki "admired/respected" Kaname because he's kind and gentle, and she saw him do otherwise, that admiration will be lost.
But love never changes, it accepts and becomes part. She had seen atrocities he had committed, even the infamous death of Aido-dono, but even that didn't make her change her mind about him. Admiration wouldn't take her this far into accepting him for everything he has done and what she had seen from him. She even wanted to become a sinner for him. Even though she knew Kaname was hiding things from her, this didn't prevent her from loving him, instead she wanted to know his past and everything he does, instead of rejecting them.
Zero on the other hand, rejected her the moment she turned into her true self and even to the point of declaring he would kill her. His hatred was to that extent that his "love for her" didn't overcome it. One can even argue if his feelings for Yuki were simply "admiration of her humanity", reference to the example I gave above, Zero began to hate her when she stopped being "human" hence he probably only "loved/admired" Yuki's human side.
that's sympathy. IMO. or sibling feelings. she said she treated him like a lil brother, but didnt say it was more than that.Because she did a lot for Zero. She said that she trust Kaname but still scared at him and started to keep secret from him.
She didn't mind letting zero drink her blood even though she knows that Kaname might get mad or disappointed. She is willing to be bite by the mad vampire knowing that if she do that she will turn into vampire or die just for zero.
she has conflicts with zero, so she cant be satisfied fully.Even though she drink kaname's blood she still feel so hungry but after drinking zero's blood she calmed down.
she calmed down after taking zero's blood clearly since her appetite was satisfied.
yes. because she wants to keep being friends with him.She want to run away from zero so that he will have reason to live.
LOL.So i think she loves zero more.But just don't realize it yet because she still being blinded with how she feel for kaname thinking that it is "love"
EDIT
and so all this time she has been "blinded" by kaname's love even to the point she wasted so many chapters professing her love for him, all of this was due to her being "blinded" oh my god that blindfold must be made of platinum or something someone take it off her eyes before Yuki waste more chapters professing her love for kaname meanwhile all the acting she's been doing towards zero means she loves him more, even as his blood already spoke to her.. oh he is doing a phenomenal job hiding it well, as it doesn't even show in his blood
What's so funny? That is what i think. That is my opinion.
Zeki008 wrote:I think what she feels for Kaname is just of admiration. Almost just the same as how those night class students feel for him. Just like of a Fan. But because she think of him like a really great person/vampire she feel so lucky and still can't believe that someone like him will love her.
and then after finding out who he really was, her feeling did get mixed up. The feeling of admiration, feeling of being grateful cause she think of him as her savior and the feeling of love for a brother since they were like brother and sister when they were younger.
So what she feels for Zero, maybe at first she feel sorry for him but as time goes that feeling is starting to grow. Maybe just like of love for a best friend or a brother too or maybe something more.
Because she did a lot for Zero. She said that she trust Kaname but still scared at him and started to keep secret from him.
She didn't mind letting zero drink her blood even though she knows that Kaname might get mad or disappointed. She is willing to be bite by the mad vampire knowing that if she do that she will turn into vampire or die just for zero.
Even though she drink kaname's blood she still feel so hungry but after drinking zero's blood she calmed down.
She want to run away from zero so that he will have reason to live.
So i think she loves zero more.But just don't realize it yet because she still being blinded with how she feel for kaname thinking that it is "love"
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Post n°108
Re: Yuki's relationship with Zero (chapter 73-74)
by mariangie Today at 4:51 am
If Yuuki just admired Kaname . She would only need to accept Kaname as her brother . No need for kisses in the mouth . No need for promising him she will return to him after she resolved the Night Class incident with Rido. No need to be guilty of her past with Zero . Yuuki would had leave Cross Academy with Kaname without any remorse . No need for further conflict of the Love Triangle . The story would had end at chapter 49 .
If what she told Kaname here is just admiration . How she accepted the man she believed at that moment was her own brother as her lover ????? The man who confessed her being a sinner . He gave her several opportunities to refuse him as man .
This was one of them . ( chapter 49 , viz ed . ):
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Kaname : " You're being quiet . I've been making you walk for quite a while in this mountain underpass ... tired ?"
Yuuki : " It was a lot more tiring sitting in the car the way here . I'm not as weak as you think . "
Yuuki (thinking ): " Whenever he looks at me with those eyes ... I feel my heart skip a beat . "
Yuuki : " It's just ... I don't know what I should talk about ."
Yuuki ( thinking ) :" I realize I'm different from how I was ten years ago ... and it makes me a little unconfortable . "
Kaname : " hold hands with you ... like this right now ... To be honest I don't really know what I'm supposed to say either . I'm already doing everything I can to try to keep you physically here ... for now . You don't have to try and hide it . I know that ... half your heart is still connected to him ... but you're here right now ... and that's enough for me . Yuuki ...? You're being too kind again . "
Yuuki : It can't be enough . I'm not giving you anything ... I'm already so carefree because I didn't remember anything . "
Kaname : " I did tell you ... that was exactly what Father , Mother and I wanted for you . "
Yuuki ( thinking ) : " ... troubling him like a child again ... "
Kaname : " I know . But for now on ... Please don't lie to yourself ... not in front of me anyway . Yuuki . Look at me . Forgive me for being so blunt . It's fine . You spoke the truth . But you forgotten something important ... I am a wounded ... starving vampire ...I fear losing my self - control and doing something cruel to you ... It scares me . I'm being honest . I too don't want lies to accumulate between us , Yuuki . Yuuki ... I'm the one who took Shizuka's life and powers . We're here ... and I ... made full use of the connection between you and Kiryu to erradicate Rido ... so I could obtain the freedom to truly protect you . Do you want to want to go in ? This is the house where you were born . I would rather you enter the house from the front entrance and not using an underground passage like this ...but there are watchful eyes above ...and difficulties could arise . "
Yuuki : " Because Zero and I killede uncle Rido together ? We left the Academy before we were able to talk to Headmaster Cross... "
Kaname : " Ah... So you helped Zero . But no , that's not the reason , Yuuki . It's because ... I killed all the members of the Senate . You're not surprised at what I say anymore ... Do you know why I'm telling all this ? I want to know your feelings ... Yuuki. MY HANDS ... ARE FAR MORE TAINTED THAN YOU THINK . CAN YOU STAND THESE HANDS TOUCHING YOU EVERY DAY ? Seiren , Are you here ? "
Seiren : " I'm here ... my master . "
Kaname : " Please take Yuuki to her room to rest . "
Yuuki ( thinking ) : " My current feelings are a mixture of sadness and anger . "
Kaname : " Yes... "
Seiren : " Please ... come this way . "
Kaname : " But since I've decided to live countless years with you ... I wanted you to know my sins . Even if I cannot touch you ... Just having you by my side is enough . "
Yuuki( thinking ) : " What am I doing ? Ah ... All can I do ... is make him sad . "
Kaname : " Yu..."
Yuuki : " I don't mind ... If you're tainted ! Then taint me too ... "
Yuuki ( thinking ) : " What kind of world ...has he been forced to face all alone ? "
Yuuki : " I loved ... these hands ."
Kaname kissed Yuuki .
Kaname : " Yuuki ... the way you looked at me just now ... those eyes will allure a vampire ..."
Yuuki : " I too have committed a sin ... for which I can't make amends ... "
( Yuuki thinking ) : " My beloved has committed sins for my sake ... so I will be there for him too . "
Yuuki : " If your sins have caused you to fall from grace ... Then I want to descend to the bottom with you ... "
Kaname : " Yuuki ... "
Yuuki : " Yes... "
Kaname : " Vampires ... can only quench their thirst by drinking the blood of the one they love . "
Yuuki : " Yes... "
Kaname ( thinking ) : " How many countless nights ... did I spend in vain ? I have finally got hold of the girl I love , and with whom I will be spending millions of nights . "
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[ Wow! I almost quote the entire chapter 49 here . ]
You could argue whatever you like of this scene . But it is clear she did not accepted Kaname as her lover because she admired him . He gave her all the reasons in the world to hate him . To despise him . To leave him . Or live with him just as siblings . But she accepted him as man no matter what he told her .
Zeki008 wrote:I think what she feels for Kaname is just of admiration. Almost just the same as how those night class students feel for him. Just like of a Fan. But because she think of him like a really great person/vampire she feel so lucky and still can't believe that someone like him will love her.
and then after finding out who he really was, her feeling did get mixed up. The feeling of admiration, feeling of being grateful cause she think of him as her savior and the feeling of love for a brother since they were like brother and sister when they were younger.
So what she feels for Zero, maybe at first she feel sorry for him but as time goes that feeling is starting to grow. Maybe just like of love for a best friend or a brother too or maybe something more.
Because she did a lot for Zero. She said that she trust Kaname but still scared at him and started to keep secret from him.
She didn't mind letting zero drink her blood even though she knows that Kaname might get mad or disappointed. She is willing to be bite by the mad vampire knowing that if she do that she will turn into vampire or die just for zero.
Even though she drink kaname's blood she still feel so hungry but after drinking zero's blood she calmed down.
She want to run away from zero so that he will have reason to live.
So i think she loves zero more.But just don't realize it yet because she still being blinded with how she feel for kaname thinking that it is "love"
Akaruisama wrote:I have an impression it's a hot topic and we never find here a good answer.
In my opinion Yuuki loves Kaname more. Maybe it's hard to say about a power of love, she loves them both in different way.
I think in her attachment toward Kaname is more passion, this feeling is much more mature, it's a feeling of a women while a feeling for Zero it's a passion of teenager girl who is first time in love.
Yuki's always been the same, I doubt she'd act any more differently just to please Ziro. That would be like other fans saying Yuki's altering her ego to please Kaname, the infamous line "not being herself", in which case its double standard to say Yuki is altering herself to please Zero.blackfox wrote:She sure is trying to act like the same yuki towards zero the one he perferred only to make him more happy.
Remember Yuki knows he loves her but he also hates her for herself. I think that's what makes her "akward" around him. and also that Zero doesn't say anything and just keeps a blank face helps. The fact she never returned his "feelings for her" makes it look like its unrequited love for him all this time, and the fact she never hinted she wants more than friendship from him is clear that's what she wanted.Lets face it she still wants to be his friend. She never even hinted about liking him in that way either.
you're right. it is akward.And is it just me but the relationship between the two of them seem really akward.
Kaname told her Zero would be there at the ball so she was not "knowing he was there", she knew he was. Read the manga again.
when she saw him at the ball not knowing he was there to look over things she thought about how he almost kissed her, & then she goes no he was dreamin & delusional or whatever.
not kaname's approval, the vampire society's approval. Read the manga again, and carefully.But her vamp side to me trys to be to serious and mature to get kanames approvale.
Zero couldnt accept her vampire side so she cant be "free and happy with him" when he's hating on her all the time for a fault she cant do anything about.I perfer zeki because zero seemes like he doesnt care what yuki looks on the outside as long as shes happy & care free in the inside.
if he prefers yuki to wear other dresses he should have told her about it when she was human, lol, or kaname should not have made any moves towards yuki who was very much like a tomboy at the time.Well obviously kaname wants her to be happy & care free but he expects to much like wearing heels, & those frilly dresses. Well maybe his 1st love was like that idk.
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