chapter 90 predictions

so how do you think chap 90 will start and what cliff-hanger do you think we'll be left with at the end? what will happen in-between will we see anymore of kaname and yuki in bed? will zero get his memo's back?
what do you think?
p.s i know chap 89 has just come out but what do you think will happen in chap 90???
p.s.s. has anyone else noticed the fact that at the end of chapter 89 it says the next issue will come out on 23 not the 24?????

I think chapter 90 will be a "transition chapter". Maybe we could see the preparation of the furnance, thoughts about Yuuki's plan and Zero been annoyed because he feels its someting wrong in his head xD

Yuuki might be shocked when Zero go to the Kuran manor for a mission U___U

I don't think there will be more bed scenes, instead there will be love revelations (where yuki's heart lay)

No many ideas yet . Probably some after sex scenes . Not sure if Kaname would left her again alone in bed .

One thing I would watch would be if Kaname left Yuuki her resin rose vial next to their bed if he leaves to check the final preparations alone for the furnace . Her memento of Kaname . His final wish to show her he loves her the most before dying .

Probably some encounter and discussion between Zero and Yuuki about the furnace and Kaname . Could include some nasty comments about what Kaname and Yuuki were doing inside the Kuran Manor that night from Zero .

Of course showing the final preparations for the furnace .

It's possible to show the purebloods that desire Kaname dead trying to find someone who can help them in their plans . Maybe trying to make Zero to side them . As he is the best candidate for the job .

p.s.s. has anyone else noticed the fact that at the end of chapter 89 it says the next issue will come out on 23 not the 24?????

Because February 24 is Sunday . And they never release LaLa on Sundays . So they release it on Saturday .

This is hard, really, at this point anything could happen, and i mean anything.
if you told me two chapters ago that yume were getting a bed scene i would have taken you to a police station and said you were a druggy.

anyway as i was saying, i think that there will be a little drama with Zero at the mansion, maybe a few sly glances from Kaname at Zero since Kaname is so shocked Yuki could take Zero's memory's.
maybe yuki will further prove her dedication to Kaname by acting normal to Zero like she never really remembered Zero either....
ok,
maybe i should shut up now nothing i'm saying seems to be making sense on paper as it dose in my head....
basically what i'm saying is, there will be drama and yuki may further prove her TRUE love to Kaname, how she will do this?
F**k me, b*tches, i don't know!
hino is FULL of surprises!

It's possible to show the purebloods that desire Kaname dead trying to find someone who can help them in their plans . Maybe trying to make Zero to side them . As he is the best candidate for the job .

At first i was thinking the same as you...i had even written that to the thread but then thinking it over... m..does not seem logical, because under the view that Kaname intends to go on with sacrificing himself (I guess), then Zero has no reason to play the game and kill him before the sacrifice to satisfy the purebloods. If he does then he shall be accused as a traitor from the hunters since the replacement of the weapons shall not occur and both hunters and the humans shall lose a great chance to secure against purebloods. Whereas if Zero allows thinks to take their way...everything shall be easy for him. So this theory does not stand so much. I am thinking that perhaps Hino wants to accelerate the time where Zero finds his memories so that he may protect her during a battle? or something like that or

Spoiler:

LOL...

when we skip the drama remind me to write a fan fic about it...

somehow i get the feeling that the next chapter will be a filler, not a bad one. but something to help the reader comprehend the last chapter, maybe some flash backs and a bit of ZUKI drama. but i don't think we'll be seeing a lot of action juts a lot of talking (in a good way....i hope)

msa-x wrote:I think chapter 90 will be a "transition chapter". Maybe we could see the preparation of the furnance, thoughts about Yuuki's plan and Zero been annoyed because he feels its someting wrong in his head xD

Yuuki might be shocked when Zero go to the Kuran manor for a mission U___U

I don't think there will be more bed scenes, instead there will be love revelations (where yuki's heart lay)

I also think it will be a transition chapter. There might be a confrontation between Zero, Yuuki, and Kaname ( if he's still there when yuuki wakes up to find Zero there guarding... ) I also think that Zero might feel irritated and on edge because he feels like he is forgetting something, but just can't put his finger on it. And then about the part where you said "there will be love revelations" I don't think that will happen, since yuuki erased all of the memories zero has of her, instead, she might just act as if she hasn't met him before and act indifferent to him... I don't know it really does bother me ...

What do you all think???

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msa-x wrote: since yuuki erased all of the memories zero has of her, instead, she might just act as if she hasn't met him before and act indifferent to him... I don't know it really does bother me ...

What do you all think???

i think your right with the whole, "yuki will act indifferent," i'm interested to see how kaname will treat yuki now that she isn't a innocent little girl but a woman, a woman who he has recently had intercourse with.

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darkwolf123 wrote:

msa-x wrote: since yuuki erased all of the memories zero has of her, instead, she might just act as if she hasn't met him before and act indifferent to him... I don't know it really does bother me ...

What do you all think???

i think your right with the whole, "yuki will act indifferent," i'm interested to see how kaname will treat yuki now that she isn't a innocent little girl but a woman, a woman who he has recently had intercourse with.

I would also like to know what yuuki thinks about that, how she will react when she wakes up next to the man she's in love with. What will he do?

[quote="darkwolf123"]

LANA_DEL_REY wrote:

darkwolf123 wrote:
i think your right with the whole, "yuki will act indifferent," i'm interested to see how kaname will treat yuki now that she isn't a innocent little girl but a woman, a woman who he has recently had intercourse with.

I would also like to know what yuuki thinks about that, how she will react when she wakes up next to the man she's in love with. What will he do?

damn, i wish i knew.
with kaname i think it could be the following, a) he smiles at yuki when she wakes up and kisses, b)he has already gone to kill himself when yuki wakes up so HINO would basically be throwing us right into the action right when we thought we had hit safe ground.
with yuki, a) she freaks out and goes all shoujo heroine on us, b) finally become mature and becomes a real woman.

[quote="LANA_DEL_REY"]

darkwolf123 wrote:

LANA_DEL_REY wrote:

I would also like to know what yuuki thinks about that, how she will react when she wakes up next to the man she's in love with. What will he do?

damn, i wish i knew.
with kaname i think it could be the following, a) he smiles at yuki when she wakes up and kisses, b)he has already gone to kill himself when yuki wakes up so HINO would basically be throwing us right into the action right when we thought we had hit safe ground.
with yuki, a) she freaks out and goes all shoujo heroine on us, b) finally become mature and becomes a real woman.

i really don't want to say/or believe what i'm about to say, but i think i'm leaning towards the possibility that he might just up and leave yuuki there, he might return zero's memories ( if that's even possible ) and then proceed to throw his heart into the furnace. I also think that ( if he does go and try and kill himself ) yuuki just might accept it and cry... but then again, i don't think that would work very well... so i really hope kaname doesn't leave anymore and just have yuuki face the problems with kaname. at this point . . Anything can happen and i'm sure its driving everyone insane!

huh, this is really hard for me too so many things could happen! we just had the bomb, now we need to see the aftermath
there's a lot of things than be. will yuuki change his mind? will he proceed? will she change him?
there's gonna be trouble now with the purebloods, so i think we are going to see some of that. maybe zero will see some action in this upcoming chapter.
at this point, i'm thinking we'll either see a few more bed scenes, or after that. maybe some reflections on what they talked about, and to see where yuuki's heart lies.
and this is important. maybe kaname will change plans depending on her reaction/response.
maybe there will be some interaction between zero and yuuki. that would be interesting. for sure, i bet he'll still be scratching his head trying to remember!
but, now yuuki is ready. she wanted to be kaname's equal, and i think she's reached that (even before the bed scene. she stood up to him, and got ticked off). no more the naive innocent girl.
so pretty please hino, grant my request! lol

i can't wait until the chapter comes out!!!

After the last two chapters I have a feeling that the next one will be filler. Kaname will talk and Zero will feel that somethings missing. Yuki will sadly be more confuse about her feelings.

This is not exactly a chapter 90 prediction . But a more general speculation .

The story will reveal in a few chapters what exactly happened during the Shizuka / Zero incident . Zero believes Kaname is the one at fault about him losing his family and becoming a vampire . Zero wants vengance . He hates Kaname . He has no memories of Yuuki to hold him back from killing Kaname .

Zero would try to kill Kaname as revenge in the next 2 or 3 chapters . Maybe induced by the purebloods who are plotting to kill Kaname .

Apparently Zero has being told a half lie / half truth about thw Shizuka / Zero incident . What can be the lie part ?

For now , the facts are : Kaname free Shizuka from her prision . Kaname wanted to use Zero as Yuuki's protector since he discovered his existance as a 8 - 9 year old boy . Shizuka's lover was killed by higher orders given to vampire hunters . Shizuka wanted revenge from the hunters who killed her lover . Zero's parents were killed by Shizuka and his twin taken by her . Shizuka bite Zero and he became a vampire later .

The almost facts : Shizuka's main reason for infiltrating Cross Academy was to kill Kaname because she believed he was involved in her tragedy . Shizuka noticed Yuuki wasn't a regular human , but in reality a pureblood vampire related to Kaname . Kaname gave Kaein Cross both Artemis and Bloody Rose to be given to yuuki and Zero .

But there are plot holes . One that is not so obvious is why Zero after being bitten by Shizuka was allowed to live . And I'm talking not just being taken into custody by the vampire hunters as an orphan . But to actually being killed by the hunters after becoming a vampire . As apparently one rule of vampire hunters was to prefer dying before becoming vampires ( suicide or being kill by a partner ). Ex. : the vampire hunter girl from the Kuran ball incident . That most people believed she took her own life when discovered she was bitten by a vampire . As a normal vampire hunter would .

What the story gave so far was . Instead of Zero placed into custody of Yagari / Vampire Hunter Association . with the intention of killing him or placing into observation . Zero was given to Kaien Cross , an ex - vampire hunter to his care . As another child to rise . A vampire boy placed to live with a human pre - teen girl . Putting the girl into danger if he lost control and attacked / bitten her . Why ?

What I can speculate is : Kaname had planned to use Zero as Yuuki's shield and knight . But as a human vampire hunter . He needed a human powerful enough to be near Yuuki . A vampire / vampire hunter was too risky . He could attack Yuuki instead . So his original plan was to make a human Zero meet Yuuki as a family friend and fellow student at the Academy .

Kaname thought if he freed Shizuka , she could try to kill Rido as revenge . As Rido being somehow responsible of her being jailed . But Shizuka decided to escape with her lover and forgot about Rido . Harming Kaname's plans .

Maybe Kaname had some influence to try to arrange Shizuka to change her original intentions . Some misinformation about Rido responsible of her freedom and /or wanting to imprision her again . But the plan failed again . As hunters ended with orders to kill Shizuka's lover and the Kiryus' were the ones who executed that . Making Shizuka revenge on the hunters instead of wanting to kill Rido as Kaname wanted .

But after Zero being attacked by Shizuka . He was supposed to be taken into custody by the hunters to determine if they kill him later or what . Because Zero destiny was to become a vampire . Kaname discovered this . Talked with Kaien Cross to make the hunters put Zero into Kaien's custody at his home instead . Because Kaname needed Zero alive to protect Yuuki until Rido was killed at least .

Maybe later Kaname was the one who give the information to Cross about the bracelet / tattoo spell to keep Zero in check and control . As Kaname needed Zero alive and Yuuki with a way to protect herself if Zero tried to attack her as a vampire .

My main speculation is : Kaname was the one responsible of allowing Zero to live after becoming a vampire . If this is true , when the revelation is given to Zero . Zero won't believe this . Maybe becoming angrier and decide to kill Kaname on the spot .

So the mystery is not as much as if Kaname was the one responsible to made the hunters allow Zero to live in the same house as Yuuki . ( Because this part is almost 99.999% true . ) But why the hunters didn't kill Zero and allowed a vampire to live with a human girl instead . Putting her into danger . And who avoided Zero from dying that day .

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LANA_DEL_REY wrote:

darkwolf123 wrote:
damn, i wish i knew.
with kaname i think it could be the following, a) he smiles at yuki when she wakes up and kisses, b)he has already gone to kill himself when yuki wakes up so HINO would basically be throwing us right into the action right when we thought we had hit safe ground.
with yuki, a) she freaks out and goes all shoujo heroine on us, b) finally become mature and becomes a real woman.

i really don't want to say/or believe what i'm about to say, but i think i'm leaning towards the possibility that he might just up and leave yuuki there, he might return zero's memories ( if that's even possible ) and then proceed to throw his heart into the furnace. I also think that ( if he does go and try and kill himself ) yuuki just might accept it and cry... but then again, i don't think that would work very well... so i really hope kaname doesn't leave anymore and just have yuuki face the problems with kaname. at this point . . Anything can happen and i'm sure its driving everyone insane!

HELLOOOOO GALS!
i'm back after so much time of absence,sorry about that,but i was so sad about the last chapters that i didn't want to see the chapter 89...
but in this 2013 new year i hoped to see something new and so i created corage to read the remaining chapters...and what i see?
Yuuki taking Zero's memories about her away...i was,OMG YES!
Yuuki and Kaname talking to each other while she cries in his chest,YES!
and then she kisses him and say that he doesn't have to be lonely anymore,Kaname replies that he won't run away from her anymore since she had done the same as Juuri did with yuuki,taking her memories so that she won't suffer anymore...
But seriously,Hino is making things the wrong way,I don't want to see the next chapter because Kaname (maybe he will die in the furnace)
I'm praying to god to put an idea in the mangaka,Kaname is not lonely anymore,and he deserves Yuuki,even more than Zero,cause they were meant to each other...forever!
YES!I'M A ADDICTED YUME FAN! SINCE THE BEGGINING OF THE MANGA!

so i wish this would happen when they wake up after the sex night...
Kaname kisses yuuki as she's asleep...
Yuuki wakes up and kisses him back and kaname gives up the idea of dying and decides to live for eternity by her side since she finally decided Kaname was her true love I'm sorry i'm blurting out all of this things without quoting the right thing about your post,but i'm answering it now
FIRST THING:Yuuki won't accept if kaname dies and she's left alone...
Yuuki won't be with Zero anyway because she decided to stay with Kaname

Hino is making us readers troubled because she loves to make this eternal puzzle about Kaname's past ,once she makes him explain that Yuuki is the reencarnation of his past wife,we can't get forward anymore....

The manga(maybe is reaching the wits end)But Hino will get a Lot of HATERS beggining with me!
If she decides to kill Kaname at Chapter 90!

The final chapter needs to have 50 pages at least
1-To explain why he wants to die when she's by his side now
2- Why President Cross doesn't solves things by destroying the forge forever!
3-Hanabusa (maybe he'll help yuuki)
4-Yuuki would sacrifice herself and make kaname human so he won't die...
5-No one dies...and there's Yume happy end
6-Zero dies and there's Yume End
7-Someone dies but theres Yume happy end
8-I don't have more ideas but i will only accept a YUME HAPPY ENDING!

lililovelilica wrote:
HELLOOOOO GALS!
i'm back after so much time of absence,sorry about that,but i was so sad about the last chapters that i didn't want to see the chapter 89...
but in this 2013 new year i hoped to see something new and so i created corage to read the remaining chapters...and what i see?
Yuuki taking Zero's memories about her away...i was,OMG YES!
Yuuki and Kaname talking to each other while she cries in his chest,YES!
and then she kisses him and say that he doesn't have to be lonely anymore,Kaname replies that he won't run away from her anymore since she had done the same as Juuri did with yuuki,taking her memories so that she won't suffer anymore...
But seriously,Hino is making things the wrong way,I don't want to see the next chapter because Kaname (maybe he will die in the furnace)
I'm praying to god to put an idea in the mangaka,Kaname is not lonely anymore,and he deserves Yuuki,even more than Zero,cause they were meant to each other...forever!
YES!I'M A ADDICTED YUME FAN! SINCE THE BEGGINING OF THE MANGA!

so i wish this would happen when they wake up after the sex night...
Kaname kisses yuuki as she's asleep...
Yuuki wakes up and kisses him back and kaname gives up the idea of dying and decides to live for eternity by her side since she finally decided Kaname was her true love I'm sorry i'm blurting out all of this things without quoting the right thing about your post,but i'm answering it now
FIRST THING:Yuuki won't accept if kaname dies and she's left alone...
Yuuki won't be with Zero anyway because she decided to stay with Kaname

Hino is making us readers troubled because she loves to make this eternal puzzle about Kaname's past ,once she makes him explain that Yuuki is the reencarnation of his past wife,we can't get forward anymore....

The manga(maybe is reaching the wits end)But Hino will get a Lot of HATERS beggining with me!
If she decides to kill Kaname at Chapter 90!

The final chapter needs to have 50 pages at least
1-To explain why he wants to die when she's by his side now
2- Why President Cross doesn't solves things by destroying the forge forever!
3-Hanabusa (maybe he'll help yuuki)
4-Yuuki would sacrifice herself and make kaname human so he won't die...
5-No one dies...and there's Yume happy end
6-Zero dies and there's Yume End
7-Someone dies but theres Yume happy end
8-I don't have more ideas but i will only accept a YUME HAPPY ENDING!

oh YEA!!!! you go girl!!! haha, this chapter sure did excite me let me tell you!

i agree, it's pretty moot to even consider yuuki going back with zero. sheesh, she's trying to close that door!!! and yup, she'll do anything in her power to save kaname.

oh boy i would just die of glorious happiness for a yume ending!!!
but, gotta admit, my hopes are high

I think chapter 90 will be a filler until the last few pages. My theory regarding the bed scene is that it was the right time for it to have happened. Got to say, out of my group of friends, I was the only one that speculated right about Yuki and Kaname having sex. Back to my theory. I think that Kaname wanted to give Yuki something permanent in case he does somehow die (I think Kaname dying is unlikely). Back to my chapter predictions. I think that Kaname and Yuki will hear of the pureblood led attack on them from either Kaien, Kaito or Yagari (if Kaname hasn't heard already) and the last few pages will show the start of the assault on the Kurans. In the long term for the manga, I can see Kaname and Yuki surviving (most likely just on Kaname's part)the assault and Touma's heart will be thrown in the furnace by someone while Kaname's distracted (I can see Kaien throwing Touma's heart into the furnace). Zero will probably get some of his memory back but most likely the insufferable need to drink Yuki's blood and he will most likely be the final obstacle. I think Zero gaining the thirst for Yuki's blood will be caused by one the two offending purebloods. I actually think Zero will be killed but not any of the people you would. I think Yuki will enstill his memories back and keeps the promise she made him (you know that if Zero ever lost himself, he would want Yuki to end his life). So I think the ending to this manga will be bittersweet, keeping within the tone of the manga.

Hatsuhana wrote:I think chapter 90 will be a filler until the last few pages. My theory regarding the bed scene is that it was the right time for it to have happened. Got to say, out of my group of friends, I was the only one that speculated right about Yuki and Kaname having sex. Back to my theory. I think that Kaname wanted to give Yuki something permanent in case he does somehow die (I think Kaname dying is unlikely). Back to my chapter predictions. I think that Kaname and Yuki will hear of the pureblood led attack on them from either Kaien, Kaito or Yagari (if Kaname hasn't heard already) and the last few pages will show the start of the assault on the Kurans. In the long term for the manga, I can see Kaname and Yuki surviving (most likely just on Kaname's part)the assault and Touma's heart will be thrown in the furnace by someone while Kaname's distracted (I can see Kaien throwing Touma's heart into the furnace). Zero will probably get some of his memory back but most likely the insufferable need to drink Yuki's blood and he will most likely be the final obstacle. I think Zero gaining the thirst for Yuki's blood will be caused by one the two offending purebloods. I actually think Zero will be killed but not any of the people you would. I think Yuki will enstill his memories back and keeps the promise she made him (you know that if Zero ever lost himself, he would want Yuki to end his life). So I think the ending to this manga will be bittersweet, keeping within the tone of the manga.

Good thinking... But i still don't believe that Zero would die that easily...even if i don't like him,i can't seem to wait for 1 of the 3 main characters to face death at the ending... sure i can think of someone else dying and also kaien trowing the heart at the furnace instead of kaname,even if the plot is taking too long to end it's that awaiting time that make us fans so more addicted than before don't you think?
So as i was thinking yesterday Kaname only thinks of sacrifice in order to save Yuuki from the bad bloody vampires in this world ,since she's already a pureblood vampire princess and can't deny it that she has her own duties now...Even if someone dies at the end(for sure)it's not gonna be Kaname,Hino said the series would be a bloody vampire thing so if she doesn't put on some mystery there no one would be so interested in the manga right?
I only hope they'll make the 3rd season of the anime to close all the remaining arcs with golden key... But i can't accept the fact hino tricked us with the sheets ,shit she's such a bully
ps:I was so LOL in the moment Yuuki appeared behind the woods and Kaname made that face can't think of better way to make him express his surprise from Yuuki's actions...Kaien was right,she did it not only for Zero's sake,she did it for the main reason to stay with kaname,so that he won't run away from her anymore and to show him her true intentions when saying:- "I love you!"

Hatsuhana wrote:I think chapter 90 will be a filler until the last few pages. My theory regarding the bed scene is that it was the right time for it to have happened. Got to say, out of my group of friends, I was the only one that speculated right about Yuki and Kaname having sex. Back to my theory. I think that Kaname wanted to give Yuki something permanent in case he does somehow die (I think Kaname dying is unlikely). Back to my chapter predictions. I think that Kaname and Yuki will hear of the pureblood led attack on them from either Kaien, Kaito or Yagari (if Kaname hasn't heard already) and the last few pages will show the start of the assault on the Kurans. In the long term for the manga, I can see Kaname and Yuki surviving (most likely just on Kaname's part)the assault and Touma's heart will be thrown in the furnace by someone while Kaname's distracted (I can see Kaien throwing Touma's heart into the furnace). Zero will probably get some of his memory back but most likely the insufferable need to drink Yuki's blood and he will most likely be the final obstacle. I think Zero gaining the thirst for Yuki's blood will be caused by one the two offending purebloods. I actually think Zero will be killed but not any of the people you would. I think Yuki will enstill his memories back and keeps the promise she made him (you know that if Zero ever lost himself, he would want Yuki to end his life). So I think the ending to this manga will be bittersweet, keeping within the tone of the manga.

hmm...good thoughts! it's hard to consider any of the trio dying...i don't want any to die! i really want to see zero and kaname happy, they deserve it! they've been hanging on the "yuuki thread" for so long now something gotta give (which i think we've reached that point!)
i'd hate for zero to die, but yea it's a possibility. i don't think kaname will die either, there seems to be more than one person trying to prevent that lol. (and with what happened...)
hehe, i'd actually be glad to see touma gone, he annoys me
but, i'm thinking that maybe it would be (sorry i forgot his name) the pb that kaname spoke to at the ball who will sacrifice himself.
i do agree that there is a big chance of a bittersweet ending. i hope hino doesn't end up trolling us again!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Hatsuhana wrote:I think chapter 90 will be a filler until the last few pages. My theory regarding the bed scene is that it was the right time for it to have happened. Got to say, out of my group of friends, I was the only one that speculated right about Yuki and Kaname having sex. Back to my theory. I think that Kaname wanted to give Yuki something permanent in case he does somehow die (I think Kaname dying is unlikely). Back to my chapter predictions. I think that Kaname and Yuki will hear of the pureblood led attack on them from either Kaien, Kaito or Yagari (if Kaname hasn't heard already) and the last few pages will show the start of the assault on the Kurans. In the long term for the manga, I can see Kaname and Yuki surviving (most likely just on Kaname's part)the assault and Touma's heart will be thrown in the furnace by someone while Kaname's distracted (I can see Kaien throwing Touma's heart into the furnace). Zero will probably get some of his memory back but most likely the insufferable need to drink Yuki's blood and he will most likely be the final obstacle. I think Zero gaining the thirst for Yuki's blood will be caused by one the two offending purebloods. I actually think Zero will be killed but not any of the people you would. I think Yuki will enstill his memories back and keeps the promise she made him (you know that if Zero ever lost himself, he would want Yuki to end his life). So I think the ending to this manga will be bittersweet, keeping within the tone of the manga.

Good thinking... But i still don't believe that Zero would die that easily...even if i don't like him,i can't seem to wait for 1 of the 3 main characters to face death at the ending... sure i can think of someone else dying and also kaien trowing the heart at the furnace instead of kaname,even if the plot is taking too long to end it's that awaiting time that make us fans so more addicted than before don't you think?
So as i was thinking yesterday Kaname only thinks of sacrifice in order to save Yuuki from the bad bloody vampires in this world ,since she's already a pureblood vampire princess and can't deny it that she has her own duties now...Even if someone dies at the end(for sure)it's not gonna be Kaname,Hino said the series would be a bloody vampire thing so if she doesn't put on some mystery there no one would be so interested in the manga right?
I only hope they'll make the 3rd season of the anime to close all the remaining arcs with golden key... But i can't accept the fact hino tricked us with the sheets ,shit she's such a bully
ps:I was so LOL in the moment Yuuki appeared behind the woods and Kaname made that face can't think of better way to make him express his surprise from Yuuki's actions...Kaien was right,she did it not only for Zero's sake,she did it for the main reason to stay with kaname,so that he won't run away from her anymore and to show him her true intentions when saying:- "I love you!"

A full legion of vampires ( level E or the last remains of Sara's zombified ones ) attacking the Kuran Manor or Cross Academy ( the former most probable ) will fill my need for crazed vampire fight against the good guys . So I liked that idea . Hope it's true . Specially if my idea of Yuuki's Artemis has a third transformation happens . If Artemis become a healing weapon that could help the crazed vampires . Even turn into level D stable the Level E ones . This would be an interesting battle .

A thing about that battle would be that Yuuki won't want anybody to kill the innocent . In that case would be the crazed vampires by Sara's blood pills . Also there would the problem of not many anti - vampire weapons available . Meaning the hunters have to improvise a bit . So the story have to find a way for ending that fight without many casualties and Yuuki looks good at the same time .



I did expect Zero to be an obstacle in the last part of V. K. But most because he hates Kaname and wants revenge . So I expect more of Zero aiding the pureblood complot against Kaname . Only because he would be manipulated by one of those purebloods . But Zero eventually would have to return to the light .

And yes , I don't expect Zero to die . As I said before , the main purposes of Zero are :

1- To fulfill his promise to Ichiru of living and do the things he couldn't .

2- To fulfill Yuuki's promise to see him smile from the bottom of his heart .

None can happen if Zero's dies . More , in reality both promises are the same . What Ichiru couldn't do was smile from the bottom of his heart . As he only find sadness and tragedy on his life .

3- Last purpose of Zero's is to learn that vampires and humans can coexist together in peace .
If Zero dies , this is a futile lesson .

But someone dying to save Zero could be a possibility . Kaien Cross is the one I have in mind . But there are options . the one I didn't want to be is Yuuki .

A reason to not killing Kaname is to at last give Yuuki ( and us as readers as well ) the closure to all the remain mysteries available . As many of Kaname's past life mysteries that remains can't be clarified unless Yume is definitively the final couple . Wit no more buts, ifs or lies between them . As Kaname is the only one with the answers .

Another thing I'm intrigued about . It's there any need to create a new furnace ???
I'm actually inclined to think the story would end without the creation a a new furnace . Because one thing implied is the furnace metal desires only killing and hate . Who could create a new furnace without the anti - vampire continue to keep hate and kill desires ? I presume Yuuki is the only one who could . But that would imply she has to die as well . And even if she is the more gentle vampire alive . This doesn't prevent her feelings won't change to hate if her spirit is inside the furnace . If eternity alone inside a furnace won't turn her spirit bad or crazed .

But if there is no furnace . There will be the need for weapons who can be used against vampires . But if Artemis could be used as both a healing and a killing weapon for vampires ( depending on the " victim's " heart / desire ) . And hunters could use normal weapons against the regular non - pureblood vampires . There is no need for a lot of anti - vampire weapons .

mariangie wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Hatsuhana wrote:I think chapter 90 will be a filler until the last few pages. My theory regarding the bed scene is that it was the right time for it to have happened. Got to say, out of my group of friends, I was the only one that speculated right about Yuki and Kaname having sex. Back to my theory. I think that Kaname wanted to give Yuki something permanent in case he does somehow die (I think Kaname dying is unlikely). Back to my chapter predictions. I think that Kaname and Yuki will hear of the pureblood led attack on them from either Kaien, Kaito or Yagari (if Kaname hasn't heard already) and the last few pages will show the start of the assault on the Kurans. In the long term for the manga, I can see Kaname and Yuki surviving (most likely just on Kaname's part)the assault and Touma's heart will be thrown in the furnace by someone while Kaname's distracted (I can see Kaien throwing Touma's heart into the furnace). Zero will probably get some of his memory back but most likely the insufferable need to drink Yuki's blood and he will most likely be the final obstacle. I think Zero gaining the thirst for Yuki's blood will be caused by one the two offending purebloods. I actually think Zero will be killed but not any of the people you would. I think Yuki will enstill his memories back and keeps the promise she made him (you know that if Zero ever lost himself, he would want Yuki to end his life). So I think the ending to this manga will be bittersweet, keeping within the tone of the manga.

Good thinking... But i still don't believe that Zero would die that easily...even if i don't like him,i can't seem to wait for 1 of the 3 main characters to face death at the ending... sure i can think of someone else dying and also kaien trowing the heart at the furnace instead of kaname,even if the plot is taking too long to end it's that awaiting time that make us fans so more addicted than before don't you think?
So as i was thinking yesterday Kaname only thinks of sacrifice in order to save Yuuki from the bad bloody vampires in this world ,since she's already a pureblood vampire princess and can't deny it that she has her own duties now...Even if someone dies at the end(for sure)it's not gonna be Kaname,Hino said the series would be a bloody vampire thing so if she doesn't put on some mystery there no one would be so interested in the manga right?
I only hope they'll make the 3rd season of the anime to close all the remaining arcs with golden key... But i can't accept the fact hino tricked us with the sheets ,shit she's such a bully
ps:I was so LOL in the moment Yuuki appeared behind the woods and Kaname made that face can't think of better way to make him express his surprise from Yuuki's actions...Kaien was right,she did it not only for Zero's sake,she did it for the main reason to stay with kaname,so that he won't run away from her anymore and to show him her true intentions when saying:- "I love you!"

A full legion of vampires ( level E or the last remains of Sara's zombified ones ) attacking the Kuran Manor or Cross Academy ( the former most probable ) will fill my need for crazed vampire fight against the good guys . So I liked that idea . Hope it's true . Specially if my idea of Yuuki's Artemis has a third transformation happens . If Artemis become a healing weapon that could help the crazed vampires . Even turn into level D stable the Level E ones . This would be an interesting battle .

A thing about that battle would be that Yuuki won't want anybody to kill the innocent . In that case would be the crazed vampires by Sara's blood pills . Also there would the problem of not many anti - vampire weapons available . Meaning the hunters have to improvise a bit . So the story have to find a way for ending that fight without many casualties and Yuuki looks good at the same time .



I did expect Zero to be an obstacle in the last part of V. K. But most because he hates Kaname and wants revenge . So I expect more of Zero aiding the pureblood complot against Kaname . Only because he would be manipulated by one of those purebloods . But Zero eventually would have to return to the light .

And yes , I don't expect Zero to die . As I said before , the main purposes of Zero are :

1- To fulfill his promise to Ichiru of living and do the things he couldn't .

2- To fulfill Yuuki's promise to see him smile from the bottom of his heart .

None can happen if Zero's dies . More , in reality both promises are the same . What Ichiru couldn't do was smile from the bottom of his heart . As he only find sadness and tragedy on his life .

3- Last purpose of Zero's is to learn that vampires and humans can coexist together in peace .
If Zero dies , this is a futile lesson .

But someone dying to save Zero could be a possibility . Kaien Cross is the one I have in mind . But there are options . the one I didn't want to be is Yuuki .

A reason to not killing Kaname is to at last give Yuuki ( and us as readers as well ) the closure to all the remain mysteries available . As many of Kaname's past life mysteries that remains can't be clarified unless Yume is definitively the final couple . Wit no more buts, ifs or lies between them . As Kaname is the only one with the answers .

Another thing I'm intrigued about . It's there any need to create a new furnace ???
I', actually inclined to think the story would end without the creation a a new furnace . Because one thing implied is the furnace metal desires only killing and hate . Who could create a new furnace without the anti - vampire continue to keep hate and kill desires ? I presume Yuuki is the only one who could . But that would imply she has to die as well . And even if she is the more gentle vampire alive . This doesn't prevent her feelings won't change to hate if her spirit is inside the furnace . If eternity alone inside a furnace won't turn her spirit bad or crazed .

But if there is no furnace . There will be the need for weapons who can be used against vampires . But if Artemis could be used as both a healing and a killing weapon for vampires ( depending on the " victim's " heart / desire ) . And hunters could use normal weapons against the regular non - pureblood vampires . There is no need for a lot of anti - vampire weapons .

As i was talking with another VK fans,i've got news:

Hino-sensei isn't gonna make Kaname commite suicide by trowing his heart at the furnace,cause the furnace will be destroyed so that no one else need to die again to create more weapons,those weapons only create more pain and suffering for the ones who are murdered and the ones who kill with them,as Kaien previously said,there's no need to create more.

Kaname thinks theres a need to create more,for protective reasons(yuuki needs to be his cute girl forever)

For Yuuki she will do anything to save kaname from this sad end

We just have to wait and see then.

Most probably Kaien will die or even Touma,he wants to kill the Kuran clan,to take posses of the current kingdom family or whatever,just need to say,with the vampires getting possessed by the Sara's blood pills,Kaname needs a good plan to protect Yuuki instead of thinking in making her even more lonely

lililovelilica wrote:

mariangie wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Good thinking... But i still don't believe that Zero would die that easily...even if i don't like him,i can't seem to wait for 1 of the 3 main characters to face death at the ending... sure i can think of someone else dying and also kaien trowing the heart at the furnace instead of kaname,even if the plot is taking too long to end it's that awaiting time that make us fans so more addicted than before don't you think?
So as i was thinking yesterday Kaname only thinks of sacrifice in order to save Yuuki from the bad bloody vampires in this world ,since she's already a pureblood vampire princess and can't deny it that she has her own duties now...Even if someone dies at the end(for sure)it's not gonna be Kaname,Hino said the series would be a bloody vampire thing so if she doesn't put on some mystery there no one would be so interested in the manga right?
I only hope they'll make the 3rd season of the anime to close all the remaining arcs with golden key... But i can't accept the fact hino tricked us with the sheets ,shit she's such a bully
ps:I was so LOL in the moment Yuuki appeared behind the woods and Kaname made that face can't think of better way to make him express his surprise from Yuuki's actions...Kaien was right,she did it not only for Zero's sake,she did it for the main reason to stay with kaname,so that he won't run away from her anymore and to show him her true intentions when saying:- "I love you!"

A full legion of vampires ( level E or the last remains of Sara's zombified ones ) attacking the Kuran Manor or Cross Academy ( the former most probable ) will fill my need for crazed vampire fight against the good guys . So I liked that idea . Hope it's true . Specially if my idea of Yuuki's Artemis has a third transformation happens . If Artemis become a healing weapon that could help the crazed vampires . Even turn into level D stable the Level E ones . This would be an interesting battle .

A thing about that battle would be that Yuuki won't want anybody to kill the innocent . In that case would be the crazed vampires by Sara's blood pills . Also there would the problem of not many anti - vampire weapons available . Meaning the hunters have to improvise a bit . So the story have to find a way for ending that fight without many casualties and Yuuki looks good at the same time .



I did expect Zero to be an obstacle in the last part of V. K. But most because he hates Kaname and wants revenge . So I expect more of Zero aiding the pureblood complot against Kaname . Only because he would be manipulated by one of those purebloods . But Zero eventually would have to return to the light .

And yes , I don't expect Zero to die . As I said before , the main purposes of Zero are :

1- To fulfill his promise to Ichiru of living and do the things he couldn't .

2- To fulfill Yuuki's promise to see him smile from the bottom of his heart .

None can happen if Zero's dies . More , in reality both promises are the same . What Ichiru couldn't do was smile from the bottom of his heart . As he only find sadness and tragedy on his life .

3- Last purpose of Zero's is to learn that vampires and humans can coexist together in peace .
If Zero dies , this is a futile lesson .

But someone dying to save Zero could be a possibility . Kaien Cross is the one I have in mind . But there are options . the one I didn't want to be is Yuuki .

A reason to not killing Kaname is to at last give Yuuki ( and us as readers as well ) the closure to all the remain mysteries available . As many of Kaname's past life mysteries that remains can't be clarified unless Yume is definitively the final couple . Wit no more buts, ifs or lies between them . As Kaname is the only one with the answers .

Another thing I'm intrigued about . It's there any need to create a new furnace ???
I', actually inclined to think the story would end without the creation a a new furnace . Because one thing implied is the furnace metal desires only killing and hate . Who could create a new furnace without the anti - vampire continue to keep hate and kill desires ? I presume Yuuki is the only one who could . But that would imply she has to die as well . And even if she is the more gentle vampire alive . This doesn't prevent her feelings won't change to hate if her spirit is inside the furnace . If eternity alone inside a furnace won't turn her spirit bad or crazed .

But if there is no furnace . There will be the need for weapons who can be used against vampires . But if Artemis could be used as both a healing and a killing weapon for vampires ( depending on the " victim's " heart / desire ) . And hunters could use normal weapons against the regular non - pureblood vampires . There is no need for a lot of anti - vampire weapons .

As i was talking with another VK fans,i've got news:

Hino-sensei isn't gonna make Kaname commite suicide by trowing his heart at the furnace,cause the furnace will be destroyed so that no one else need to die again to create more weapons,those weapons only create more pain and suffering for the ones who are murdered and the ones who kill with them,as Kaien previously said,there's no need to create more.

Kaname thinks theres a need to create more,for protective reasons(yuuki needs to be his cute girl forever)

For Yuuki she will do anything to save kaname from this sad end

We just have to wait and see then.

Most probably Kaien will die or even Touma,he wants to kill the Kuran clan,to take posses of the current kingdom family or whatever,just need to say,with the vampires getting possessed by the Sara's blood pills,Kaname needs a good plan to protect Yuuki instead of thinking in making her even more lonely

I hope you're right ! I don't want to see a new furnace . For the reasons I stated before . That would only continue the hate between hunters / humans and vampires . There has to be a way for protect everybody without the need to continue the circle of hate .

I hoping Artemis could become a weapon for healing . Transformed by Yuuki's will to protect . A weapon to kill only the ones who want to die . And to protect / save the ones who need to live .

mariangie wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

mariangie wrote:

A full legion of vampires ( level E or the last remains of Sara's zombified ones ) attacking the Kuran Manor or Cross Academy ( the former most probable ) will fill my need for crazed vampire fight against the good guys . So I liked that idea . Hope it's true . Specially if my idea of Yuuki's Artemis has a third transformation happens . If Artemis become a healing weapon that could help the crazed vampires . Even turn into level D stable the Level E ones . This would be an interesting battle .

A thing about that battle would be that Yuuki won't want anybody to kill the innocent . In that case would be the crazed vampires by Sara's blood pills . Also there would the problem of not many anti - vampire weapons available . Meaning the hunters have to improvise a bit . So the story have to find a way for ending that fight without many casualties and Yuuki looks good at the same time .



I did expect Zero to be an obstacle in the last part of V. K. But most because he hates Kaname and wants revenge . So I expect more of Zero aiding the pureblood complot against Kaname . Only because he would be manipulated by one of those purebloods . But Zero eventually would have to return to the light .

And yes , I don't expect Zero to die . As I said before , the main purposes of Zero are :

1- To fulfill his promise to Ichiru of living and do the things he couldn't .

2- To fulfill Yuuki's promise to see him smile from the bottom of his heart .

None can happen if Zero's dies . More , in reality both promises are the same . What Ichiru couldn't do was smile from the bottom of his heart . As he only find sadness and tragedy on his life .

3- Last purpose of Zero's is to learn that vampires and humans can coexist together in peace .
If Zero dies , this is a futile lesson .

But someone dying to save Zero could be a possibility . Kaien Cross is the one I have in mind . But there are options . the one I didn't want to be is Yuuki .

A reason to not killing Kaname is to at last give Yuuki ( and us as readers as well ) the closure to all the remain mysteries available . As many of Kaname's past life mysteries that remains can't be clarified unless Yume is definitively the final couple . Wit no more buts, ifs or lies between them . As Kaname is the only one with the answers .

Another thing I'm intrigued about . It's there any need to create a new furnace ???
I', actually inclined to think the story would end without the creation a a new furnace . Because one thing implied is the furnace metal desires only killing and hate . Who could create a new furnace without the anti - vampire continue to keep hate and kill desires ? I presume Yuuki is the only one who could . But that would imply she has to die as well . And even if she is the more gentle vampire alive . This doesn't prevent her feelings won't change to hate if her spirit is inside the furnace . If eternity alone inside a furnace won't turn her spirit bad or crazed .

But if there is no furnace . There will be the need for weapons who can be used against vampires . But if Artemis could be used as both a healing and a killing weapon for vampires ( depending on the " victim's " heart / desire ) . And hunters could use normal weapons against the regular non - pureblood vampires . There is no need for a lot of anti - vampire weapons .

As i was talking with another VK fans,i've got news:

Hino-sensei isn't gonna make Kaname commite suicide by trowing his heart at the furnace,cause the furnace will be destroyed so that no one else need to die again to create more weapons,those weapons only create more pain and suffering for the ones who are murdered and the ones who kill with them,as Kaien previously said,there's no need to create more.

Kaname thinks theres a need to create more,for protective reasons(yuuki needs to be his cute girl forever)

For Yuuki she will do anything to save kaname from this sad end

We just have to wait and see then.

Most probably Kaien will die or even Touma,he wants to kill the Kuran clan,to take posses of the current kingdom family or whatever,just need to say,with the vampires getting possessed by the Sara's blood pills,Kaname needs a good plan to protect Yuuki instead of thinking in making her even more lonely

I hope you're right ! I don't want to see a new furnace . For the reasons I stated before . That would only continue the hate between hunters / humans and vampires . There has to be a way for protect everybody without the need to continue the circle of hate .

I hoping Artemis could become a weapon for healing . Transformed by Yuuki's will to protect . A weapon to kill only the ones who want to die . And to protect / save the ones who need to live .

oh d***, i love where this is going!
mariangie, i love your thoughts i had wondered past a time if the furnace just wouldn't be, but i never delved into it, as it just didn't seem plausible? at least at the time.
if hino would have a battle like that, kudos to her! what a way to end the story, with a dramamtic climax.
i really like the idea of yuuki's artemis transforming into something more, something healing. this would be perfect too as it would compliment who yuuki is....like when kaname commented that of course her embodiment would be butterflies, creatures reaching for the light.
yuuki has always supported kaein's ideas of peace and coexistence. i would think that not having the story ending with that dream realized would be such a shame....in way, that's the focus of the story. it has to happen if she wants to end it right
and remember right before kaname revealed his past to yuuki, she had thought to herself that she would not let anyone sacrifice themselves or anything of the sort. she would become stronger, more mature, and figure out what's going on behind the scenes....how revelant! here we are, at the exact moment, and yuuki has no intention of letting kaname sacrifice himself.
it's all adding up, the final pieces of the puzzle are begining to fall into place.
hmm. having zero aiding the pb against the kuran's is a possibility. i do not think thought that yuuki will allow kaname to kill him, and so, i have to agree where you are heading with this mariangie.
this idea of having no furnace is quite a perfect match to the events that are happening now. already as mentioned^^ there is a considerable lack of anti-vampire weapons. the few left would be easily attained, and the h.a. would become obsolete. the furnace, uneeded, and peace at last. no doubt frictions will remain between pb, and this is a major factor that will have to be resolved. perhaps a new set of rules and governing shall have to be set in place

for the news, well i won't be surpised if it happens that way. i am a confident (as i can be lol) that kaname will not die, nor yuuki. i'd be like "duh" and beyond if it did happen. and this not just about being a yume or a zeki or a yuuki, etc! come-on, eliminate either and the story just flops.

the wait is the killing part though