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28blablainiayu wrote:kaname can't die...
at least until the last chapter
damn i jinx my self
If it's not just my idea, i think that Zero got his memory back?
2rsa wrote:Could someone tell me what's happening?I don't have V*P*N at the moment and I can't check it.
What happened to kaname?who took Yuuki?
nina wrote:2rsa wrote:Could someone tell me what's happening?I don't have V*P*N at the moment and I can't check it.
What happened to kaname?who took Yuuki?
Nothing happened to Kaname yet.
All of them (Kaname, Yuuki, Takuma, Zero and the injured Kaito) arrived at the academy to avoid the attack of the PBs at Kuran’s mansion.
Kaname spent his night with Yuuki in a dungeon at the academy while waiting for the furnace to be ready for the sacrifice.
Then Isaya came escorted from Zero and took Yuuki by force away from Kaname in order to turn her into human. I won’t describe the moment of the Yume parting cuz I can’t … too painful…
Anyway the point is that while Yuuki was crying pleading to Isaya not to turn her into human and even Zero seemed to leave them alone in order for Isaya to complete the ritual he recalled who Yuuki actually was (regained his memory) and in the last moment turned back and saved Yuuki from Isaya i.e. he stopped Isaya from turning her into human …
juliet wrote:Even though there is not a translation yet, things in overall do not look so bad...
1. The battle with the purebloods was postponed by Hino, this reserves the killing of the pureblood (if any) for later on, that can be seen positive as purebloods may remain.
2. Zero gets his memory back in a crucial point of time when Isaya is ready to change Yuuki, thus perhaps after seeing how unhappy she is with Kaname's decision, he may aid her after all, surpassing his feelings and turning just great, wishing the best for her, canceling Isaya's plan to aid in this way Kaname > leading Isaya to seek another way in order to help.
Anyway I know i am running, i also wish to wish for the best and say that there are ways to go from here that are not that sad.
:
P Let's be optimistic the end of the series is near..
nina wrote:juliet wrote:Even though there is not a translation yet, things in overall do not look so bad...
1. The battle with the purebloods was postponed by Hino, this reserves the killing of the pureblood (if any) for later on, that can be seen positive as purebloods may remain.
2. Zero gets his memory back in a crucial point of time when Isaya is ready to change Yuuki, thus perhaps after seeing how unhappy she is with Kaname's decision, he may aid her after all, surpassing his feelings and turning just great, wishing the best for her, canceling Isaya's plan to aid in this way Kaname > leading Isaya to seek another way in order to help.
Anyway I know i am running, i also wish to wish for the best and say that there are ways to go from here that are not that sad.
:
P Let's be optimistic the end of the series is near..
True… in fact they are going on a path that in general lines we were hoping for… and as I have said many times when things seem shining with Hino I feel more terrified … as the lull before a catastrophic storm…
However the atmosphere is so heavy… the mood so black that I can’t handle it anymore! Gosh it is like the torture of the drop! Little by little poisoning our minds and hearts!
Maybe is the first time that I was so moved and overwhelmed from Yuuki’s despair and tears but seeing Kaname’s pain all over his face paralyzed me… it’s like his heart is already torn out of his chest … I can’t take it anymore!
juliet wrote:yes..
@saphira I agree, it's bitter and sweet at the same time but it's okay. We knew that Hino will pull all the drama at the last chapters to reach climax and suspense, but we are all tired from the long waiting and also the laconic script and the plot that we can discuss if there is any point for all of these left, at the end.
At least there is hope at this chapter that Zero shall stop Isaya from turning Yuuki - human, if he does so:
Hino shall have succeeded in lifting him higher; surpassing his issues that kept him behind as far as it considers the purebloods, and also overcoming his own personal emotions to offer to Yuuki a chance to choose and live her own path.
The same as Kaname in a way that also choose to offer to Yuuki (according to his POV) a more suitable world, putting his own reasons to live aside, in expense of his own existence as he had made it clear that he has no reason to live without her.
I would love to see that in Zero too, an unconditional love finally arriving as the end approaches and it also fits Hino's style, since she has the tendency to analogically balance Kaname and Zero as pillars opposite to each other, but also in a way in the same frame of thought as far as it considers Yuuki's own good when things get really serious.
Saphira_Kuran wrote:juliet wrote:yes..
@saphira I agree, it's bitter and sweet at the same time but it's okay. We knew that Hino will pull all the drama at the last chapters to reach climax and suspense, but we are all tired from the long waiting and also the laconic script and the plot that we can discuss if there is any point for all of these left, at the end.
At least there is hope at this chapter that Zero shall stop Isaya from turning Yuuki - human, if he does so:
Hino shall have succeeded in lifting him higher; surpassing his issues that kept him behind as far as it considers the purebloods, and also overcoming his own personal emotions to offer to Yuuki a chance to choose and live her own path.
The same as Kaname in a way that also choose to offer to Yuuki (according to his POV) a more suitable world, putting his own reasons to live aside, in expense of his own existence as he had made it clear that he has no reason to live without her.
I would love to see that in Zero too, an unconditional love finally arriving as the end approaches and it also fits Hino's style, since she has the tendency to analogically balance Kaname and Zero as pillars opposite to each other, but also in a way in the same frame of thought as far as it considers Yuuki's own good when things get really serious.
my thoughts exactly! after reading the translation I can't help but think that hino has something big planned for zero. reading his thoughts, his actions, I'm smelling something brewing. I share the same opinion. he will be her knight once more, protecting her from isaya. it is clear that she does not want to become human, and I think zero can relate to and understand that. also with his interaction with kaname, it shows his understanding about PB. his opinion of them is no longer simply ruled by hate....an important change for zero. this is imo, the biggest transition that we've had. because he's not just accepting yuuki, he's widening his circle. this I think will be extremely important in what role zero will play.
the question I wonder is, as he does not want to be "ordered" around by pb, will he grant kaname's wish?? I think not. say he would keep yuuki safe, and she stays PB, what then? kaname wanted zero to protect her, stay with her, but zero has made it clear that he wants yuuki to be happy. he know they can't be together.
so....I reason that zero will aide her in stopping kaname??? I think his loyalty is more to her, then the HA no matter what.
I still hold under the opinion that kaname won't die. I anticipate some surprises when he tries to actually sacrifice himself. and also, my radar is still flashing when I think of Cross. i'm sure he's up to something. and though kaname has every intention of continueing I can't help but wonder when he said to yuuki: "Do you really think this is the right thing to do? Even if it means taking away the only weapon humans have against vampires?"
seems to me that this is not just aimed to her. perhaps this makes him think as well? could this perhaps help change the chain of events?
and yes. unconditional love from zero!! this is hino's chance to make zero, indeed, rise up once and for all.
what I want to see ultimately is no furnace! and problems not covered over, but truly solved.
Yuuki: Yori-chan…Why are you…haven’t your heard about what happened?
Yori: I have. But this place is safe, isn’t it? Or I should say, if something does happen, we humans can’t walk away unscathed anyway. So it doesn’t matter where I go.
Saphira wrote: what I want to see ultimately is no furnace! and problems not covered over, but truly solved
mariangie wrote: About Kaname . I don't think he would die . Nor a new furnace will be created . As there has to be a way for the story to avoid creating weapons of hate and desire to kill vampires . At the same time creating a real way for protecting humans from " bad vampires " , using a true collaboration between vampires and humans / hunters .
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