Rido's other child?!?

I was flicking through my fanbook and noticed that... IT SAYS RIDO HAS HAD A SECOND CHILD! I can't believe I just realised this. Do you think this character may be significant later on?!? and no this child has a different mother to Skiki's and Shizuka is not the Mom/Mum!

hmm yeah it´s barley visible but i guess that seiren could be his child...I mean no one knows anything about her but she is a noble vampire .....

You are right! Apparently there are two lines from Rido, it means he have another child.
Perhaps Hino is going to introduce one more character, and it can be someone evil, more alike his father than Shiki is. Maybe the fight between two brothers is starting now?
We can't be sure, Hino could plan something in that way, but we don't know if she use it further in her manga.

Akaruisama wrote:You are right! Apparently there are two lines from Rido, it means he have another child.
Perhaps Hino is going to introduce one more character, and it can be someone evil, more alike his father than Shiki is. Maybe the fight between two brothers is starting now?
We can't be sure, Hino could plan something in that way, but we don't know if she use it further in her manga.

Yeah, it could be Seiren! But fro some reason, I hope he had a Daughter so Yuki and Rido's daughter could have a fight

Or if it is a son, since he has Kuran genes... he might look like Kaname.. AHH TWO KANAMES!!!


This is interesting

wow what a discovery! thats great.. you're right.. but if the mother is not Shiki or Hio, then WHO???

(it can be Hio... who knows if they had a child that no one knows... but she was imprisoned all the time)

if Rido was taking mistresses, perhaps he had other mistresses too?

he probably mated with another noble, or maybe a pureblood... im leaning more to the noble part... hmmm this is definitely intriguing!

LOL @ seiren being his child... that would be the twist... although it seems to fit personality-wise..she seems a bit like Senri sometimes.

and what's her surname? it is blank right? she seems to be the only character who doesnt have a surname...

if she's rido's other child then it makes sense she was probably born out of wedlock...who's her mother? was she dead? how did kaname discover her, I think she's the one who takes care of kuran mansion all these years (when Kaname was staying with Ichijou's after his parents death) because Seiren knew about the location of the bedrooms when Kaname first entered the mansion
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2177-26/vampire-knight/chapter-49.html

she must know the mansion before then..

I wish the scan was more clearer though..

sweetsolace wrote:wow what a discovery! thats great.. you're right.. but if the mother is not Shiki or Hio, then WHO???

(it can be Hio... who knows if they had a child that no one knows... but she was imprisoned all the time)

if Rido was taking mistresses, perhaps he had other mistresses too?

he probably mated with another noble, or maybe a pureblood... im leaning more to the noble part... hmmm this is definitely intriguing!

LOL @ seiren being his child... that would be the twist... although it seems to fit personality-wise..she seems a bit like Senri sometimes.

and what's her surname? it is blank right? she seems to be the only character who doesnt have a surname...

if she's rido's other child then it makes sense she was probably born out of wedlock...who's her mother? was she dead? how did kaname discover her, I think she's the one who takes care of kuran mansion all these years (when Kaname was staying with Ichijou's after his parents death) because Seiren knew about the location of the bedrooms when Kaname first entered the mansion
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2177-26/vampire-knight/chapter-49.html

she must know the mansion before then..

I checked again and Seiren isn't even on the family tree, it doesn't even say anything like "Serves Kaname" but I think she serves Kaname because she feels guilty about what her father did (Rido), so yeah I think possibly Seiren is his child! That's my sort of theory XD

Mmm sorry if I spoil your assumptions but I think the other child of Rido, apart from Shiki of course probably is the little kid with the different eyes who we saw that drove Yuuki at the mansion where the first ball took place and sucked her energy … after Shizuka’s arc. The child probably at the time was possessed by Rido. Here …

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-11/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-12/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

And here his mother … more likely another noble vampire and Rido’s mistress.

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

nina wrote:Mmm sorry if I spoil your assumptions but I think the other child of Rido, apart from Shiki of course probably is the little kid with the different eyes who we saw that drove Yuuki at the mansion where the first ball took place and sucked her energy … after Shizuka’s arc. The child probably at the time was possessed by Rido. Here …

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-11/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-12/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

And here his mother … more likely another noble vampire and Rido’s mistress.

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

Good idea but didn't Rido's body get destroyed so it had to get back to normal etc, it did this for 10 years. That boy does look younger than 10 in my opinion, but you could be right as he could be 11 I guess.

nina wrote:Mmm sorry if I spoil your assumptions but I think the other child of Rido, apart from Shiki of course probably is the little kid with the different eyes who we saw that drove Yuuki at the mansion where the first ball took place and sucked her energy … after Shizuka’s arc. The child probably at the time was possessed by Rido. Here …

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-11/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-12/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

And here his mother … more likely another noble vampire and Rido’s mistress.

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

oooh i forgot about that kid.. i think it says somewhere that the requirements to be possessed is that the vampire should be a blood relative, so the child is probably Rido's blood relative/child.. that was how Rido possessed Senri and Shizuka possessed Maria's body later on.

mm will have to find that page later..

but still this doesnt cancel out Seiren's origins.. she doesn't have a surname... but she seems to be Kaname's servant. Servants usually only have the name that their master gave them, and their original name is lost.. i think

Kanamelover<3 wrote:

nina wrote:Mmm sorry if I spoil your assumptions but I think the other child of Rido, apart from Shiki of course probably is the little kid with the different eyes who we saw that drove Yuuki at the mansion where the first ball took place and sucked her energy … after Shizuka’s arc. The child probably at the time was possessed by Rido. Here …

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-11/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-12/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

And here his mother … more likely another noble vampire and Rido’s mistress.

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

Good idea but didn't Rido's body get destroyed so it had to get back to normal etc, it did this for 10 years. That boy does look younger than 10 in my opinion, but you could be right as he could be 11 I guess.

I’m not sure want you mean exactly about the age of the child, but that incident took place a year ago approximately.

sweetsolace wrote:

nina wrote:Mmm sorry if I spoil your assumptions but I think the other child of Rido, apart from Shiki of course probably is the little kid with the different eyes who we saw that drove Yuuki at the mansion where the first ball took place and sucked her energy … after Shizuka’s arc. The child probably at the time was possessed by Rido. Here …

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-11/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-12/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

And here his mother … more likely another noble vampire and Rido’s mistress.

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

oooh i forgot about that kid.. i think it says somewhere that the requirements to be possessed is that the vampire should be a blood relative, so the child is probably Rido's blood relative/child.. that was how Rido possessed Senri later on.

mm will have to find that page later..

but still this doesnt cancel out Seiren's origins.. she doesn't have a surname... but she seems to be Kaname's servant. Servants usually only have the name that their master gave them, and their original name is lost.. i think

I don't know about Seiren but it seems like she isn't a noble vampire since she doesn't have any supernatural ability like the other nobles but she is an expert in martial arts I think, according to the fan-book.

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I’m not sure want you mean exactly about the age of the child, but that incident took place a year ago approximately.
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I mean when Kaname destroyed Rido's body ten years ago when Yuki turned human.

nina wrote:
I don't know about Seiren but it seems like she isn't a noble
vampire since she doesn't have any supernatural ability like the other
nobles but she is an expert in martial arts I think, according to the
fan-book.

here is the link to that
https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t556-seiren-night-class
says her status is unknown
so she can be any vampire class except pureblood or human (she's in an environment filled with vampires that can distinguish this if she is either pureblood or human)

she seems to be a complete mystery.. but its clear that Seiren serves Kaname, and she is very loyal to him for a reason

btw about the child at the party, its not sure if he is Rido's relative as I cant find the page (or it probably doesnt exist) that its a requirement for someone to be blood relative to possess them, but seeing Senri and Maria getting possessed by their pureblood relative seem like a good hint..
here's the child's mother:
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

Kanamelover<3 wrote:

I’m not sure want you mean exactly about the age of the child, but that incident took place a year ago approximately.

I mean when Kaname destroyed Rido's body ten years ago when Yuki turned human.

Oh yes that's a very good question!!!!

If he didn't have a body how he conceived a child??? cuz that child it was his, since it has his different eyes!

A! maybe I have an idea … supposed that passed 10 years but human years … that means that the child it could be 10 or 11 years old if we count his age according the humans years but as a vampire he is probably 5 or 6 years old in appearance!

nina wrote:

Kanamelover<3 wrote:

I’m not sure want you mean exactly about the age of the child, but that incident took place a year ago approximately.

I mean when Kaname destroyed Rido's body ten years ago when Yuki turned human.

Oh yes that's a very good question!!!!

If he didn't have a body how he conceived a child??? cuz that child it was his, since it has his different eyes!

A! maybe I have an idea … supposed that passed 10 years but human years … that means that the child it could be 10 or 11 years old if we count his age according the humans years but as a vampire he is probably 5 or 6 years old in appearance!

mm remember only 10 years has passed.... for human life thats a long time but its different for vampires..
I think Rido went around and started his folly with women before Kaname chopped him to pieces because after that Rido was reviving his body
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2160-20/vampire-knight/chapter-34.html

sweetsolace wrote:

nina wrote:
I don't know about Seiren but it seems like she isn't a noble
vampire since she doesn't have any supernatural ability like the other
nobles but she is an expert in martial arts I think, according to the
fan-book.

here is the link to that
https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t556-seiren-night-class
says her status is unknown
so she can be any vampire class except pureblood or human (she's in an environment filled with vampires that can distinguish this if she is either pureblood or human)

she seems to be a complete mystery.. but its clear that Seiren serves Kaname, and she is very loyal to him for a reason

btw about the child at the party, its not sure if he is Rido's relative as I cant find the page (or it probably doesnt exist) that its a requirement for someone to be blood relative to possess them, but seeing Senri and Maria getting possessed by their pureblood relative seem like a good hint..
here's the child's mother:
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

About Seiren I agree she is a mystery I just assumed that she isn't a noble vampire from her servant status lol.

About the child ... I don't remember where exactly but Rido mentioned that he was waiting for Shiki to grow up so he could use his body and his powers I suppose. So if he could possess any other body, I mean not related with his blood then why he needed Shiki's body?

sweetsolace wrote:mm remember only 10 years has passed.... for human life thats a long time but its different for vampires..
I think Rido went around and started his folly with women before Kaname chopped him to pieces because after that Rido was reviving his body
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2160-20/vampire-knight/chapter-34.html

Yes that's exactly what I meant ... maybe it was confusing the way I wrote it!

nina wrote:

sweetsolace wrote:

nina wrote:
I don't know about Seiren but it seems like she isn't a noble
vampire since she doesn't have any supernatural ability like the other
nobles but she is an expert in martial arts I think, according to the
fan-book.

here is the link to that
https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t556-seiren-night-class
says her status is unknown
so she can be any vampire class except pureblood or human (she's in an environment filled with vampires that can distinguish this if she is either pureblood or human)

she seems to be a complete mystery.. but its clear that Seiren serves Kaname, and she is very loyal to him for a reason

btw about the child at the party, its not sure if he is Rido's relative as I cant find the page (or it probably doesnt exist) that its a requirement for someone to be blood relative to possess them, but seeing Senri and Maria getting possessed by their pureblood relative seem like a good hint..
here's the child's mother:
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2143-46/vampire-knight/chapter-25.html

About Seiren I agree she is a mystery I just assumed that she isn't a noble vampire from her servant status lol.

About the child ... I don't remember where exactly but Rido mentioned that he was waiting for Shiki to grow up so he could use his body and his powers I suppose. So if he could possess any other body, I mean not related with his blood then why he needed Shiki's body?

sweetsolace wrote:mm remember only 10 years has passed.... for human life thats a long time but its different for vampires..
I think Rido went around and started his folly with women before Kaname chopped him to pieces because after that Rido was reviving his body
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2160-20/vampire-knight/chapter-34.html

Yes that's exactly what I meant ... maybe it was confusing the way I wrote it!

yes I think so too, im wondering if Rido can possess a relative's body like what he did to that child (his son??) then why wait until his full resurrection when he can do what he wants even with an incomplete body, he waited until he was near revival before possessing the child... it seems to me he just loves to play around...
or maybe his powers were not enough to possess someone. When Shizuka possessed Maria's body she was not injured or anything so perhaps it has to do with power maturity

nina wrote:About the child ... I don't remember where exactly but Rido mentioned that he was waiting for Shiki to grow up so he could use his body and his powers I suppose. So if he could possess any other body, I mean not related with his blood then why he needed Shiki's body?

I found the page ... here

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2155-15/vampire-knight/chapter-29.html

sweetsolace wrote:yes I think so too, im wondering if Rido can possess a relative's body like what he did to that child (his son??) then why wait until his full resurrection when he can do what he wants even with an incomplete body, he waited until he was near revival before possessing the child... it seems to me he just loves to play around...
or maybe his powers were not enough to possess someone. When Shizuka possessed Maria's body she was not injured or anything so perhaps it has to do with power maturity

Well I think even Shiki’s grow up body wasn’t enough for him to fight Kaname or any other PB or a hunter … so probably he needed to be his body in a more complete state to do so hence and the 10 years. Then he planned to use Yuuki’s blood, viz the Kurans thick blood, to fully awake his body … but Kaname used his own …

hey guys please calm down a bit..about your theorie that the little boy could be his son...your only argument is that this child has two different eye colours...yeah of course it has because it has been possed by rido remember yourselves back as shiki was possed!! Rima has asked him to what happend with his eyes!!

Pinacolada wrote:hey guys please calm down a bit..about your theorie that the little boy could be his son...your only argument is that this child has two different eye colours...yeah of course it has because it has been possed by rido remember yourselves back as shiki was possed!! Rima has asked him to what happend with his eyes!!

First of all no one is arguing here! Wrong impression lol.

And secondly I think you’re missing a point here … the child had different eyes cuz he was possessed by Rido, yes … but to be able to posses a body probably you should be related by blood <<< this is an assumption, IMO safe, which is supported from the examples we have thus far …

1. Shizuka possessed Maria’s body and they were relatives.

2. Rido possessed Shiki’s body and he was his son. In fact he said that he was waiting for him to grow up. Why is that; if he could posses any other body?

So it’s quite plausible the little child to be Rido’s son as well.

First of all no one is arguing here! Wrong impression lol.

And secondly I think you’re missing a point here … the child had different eyes cuz he was possessed by Rido, yes … but to be able to posses a body probably you should be related by blood <<< this is an assumption, IMO safe, which is supported from the examples we have thus far …

1. Shizuka possessed Maria’s body and they were relatives.

2. Rido possessed Shiki’s body and he was his son. In fact he said that he was waiting for him to grow up. Why is that; if he could posses any other body?

So it’s quite plausible the little child to be Rido’s son as well.

if that's true .. the boy was born after shiki, kaname, yuki, zero etc. (because the boy is younger) and rido has nearly the same age as haruka and juuri and ´they have born yuki and the boy is younger than yuki!and THAT MEANS rido became latish father again if it's true

Lisi wrote:

First of all no one is arguing here! Wrong impression lol.

And secondly I think you’re missing a point here … the child had different eyes cuz he was possessed by Rido, yes … but to be able to posses a body probably you should be related by blood <<< this is an assumption, IMO safe, which is supported from the examples we have thus far …

1. Shizuka possessed Maria’s body and they were relatives.

2. Rido possessed Shiki’s body and he was his son. In fact he said that he was waiting for him to grow up. Why is that; if he could posses any other body?

So it’s quite plausible the little child to be Rido’s son as well.

if that's true .. the boy was born after shiki, kaname, yuki, zero etc. (because the boy is younger) and rido has nearly the same age as haruka and juuri and ´they have born yuki and the boy is younger than yuki!and THAT MEANS rido became latish father again if it's true

yeah ... he probably was very active! but since they are immortals maybe they can also conceive in old age!

Here, I had posted the chart to get the whole picture, yet as you will see the details are missing....

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t407-vampires-and-hunters-from-the-official-fanbook

nina wrote:

Lisi wrote:

First of all no one is arguing here! Wrong impression lol.

And secondly I think you’re missing a point here … the child had different eyes cuz he was possessed by Rido, yes … but to be able to posses a body probably you should be related by blood <<< this is an assumption, IMO safe, which is supported from the examples we have thus far …

1. Shizuka possessed Maria’s body and they were relatives.

2. Rido possessed Shiki’s body and he was his son. In fact he said that he was waiting for him to grow up. Why is that; if he could posses any other body?

So it’s quite plausible the little child to be Rido’s son as well.

if that's true .. the boy was born after shiki, kaname, yuki, zero etc. (because the boy is younger) and rido has nearly the same age as haruka and juuri and ´they have born yuki and the boy is younger than yuki!and THAT MEANS rido became latish father again if it's true

yeah ... he probably was very active! but since they are immortals maybe they can also conceive in old age!

hahahaha he was defnitvely very active because he was a little biiitch XD HAHAHA

Lisi wrote:

nina wrote:

Lisi wrote:

First of all no one is arguing here! Wrong impression lol.

And secondly I think you’re missing a point here … the child had different eyes cuz he was possessed by Rido, yes … but to be able to posses a body probably you should be related by blood <<< this is an assumption, IMO safe, which is supported from the examples we have thus far …

1. Shizuka possessed Maria’s body and they were relatives.

2. Rido possessed Shiki’s body and he was his son. In fact he said that he was waiting for him to grow up. Why is that; if he could posses any other body?

So it’s quite plausible the little child to be Rido’s son as well.

if that's true .. the boy was born after shiki, kaname, yuki, zero etc. (because the boy is younger) and rido has nearly the same age as haruka and juuri and ´they have born yuki and the boy is younger than yuki!and THAT MEANS rido became latish father again if it's true

yeah ... he probably was very active! but since they are immortals maybe they can also conceive in old age!

hahahaha he was defnitvely very active because he was a little biiitch XD HAHAHA

what a lucky woman:loltoo: , even though I am sure that with that Kuran genes he would get a mate very easily...after all he was still the Kuran current heir ( I guess since Kaname had not appear so actively in the picture yet). Oi... another vampire like Rido, just what were missing, I do consider it possible that the boy at the ball could be his son...it physically remind that red-brown Shiki style and Yuuki.