do you ever have a character in VK that often make you pissed off? well,just wondering
Anyway, I don't include Aidou, Ichijou, and Kaien because they just adorable and always make me laugh,so I guess no one dislike them
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Katherine wrote:lucykaede wrote:Rose.Petals wrote:Not a character, technically, but Hino second. The first will always be Yuuki. Is it weird to be a Yume fan, but more so a Kaname fan? Chapter 83 gave me some hope, but 83 chapters is too long to wait for Yuuki's character to develop!!
how she grew up??she is still on wrong side remember,well everyone is.
even adults make mistakes lucykaede or do you want to say that you´re a child because you make mistakes? well then we are a society of kids, wonderful
Compare the Yuuki from chapter 83 to the Yuuki at the beginning? don´t you see differences? All the things that happend triggered a change! She had to deal with a lot of things and started fighting! We as readers see both side, what Kaname thinks and what Yuuki thinks, now try to look at everything from Yuuki´s point of view. She must be very shocked and insecure! If there are so many people who tell you different things, maybe things you don´t want to hear it can be quite confusing. Yuuki tries to find the right way and tries to decide (and I think Kaname doesn´t make it easy for her to take his side, because he doesn´t want her to team up with him...Yuuki notices certain sentences and movements from kaname which show that he has still feelings for her but I think that she can´t understand them properly, she hears bad things about him she sees bad things which happen because of kaname...Yuuki is in a difficult position right now!)
Don´t understand me wrong I´m not a big fan of her too and she does stupid things but she goes through something quite difficult, confusing and hard right now, you have to watch the circumstances too...we have different knowledge that Yuuki, she doesn´t know as much as we know...her whole wonderful world with Kaname colapses right now and she needs to make decisions on her own right now and we all know that this can be quite hard when you have to do it when no one watches you and takes care that you don´t make mistakes...and I think that shows that she grew up: she decides! She choses her own way adn makes her decisions alone! And I think that the things that happened lately made her grow up!
lucykaede wrote:Katherine wrote:lucykaede wrote:
how she grew up??she is still on wrong side remember,well everyone is.
even adults make mistakes lucykaede or do you want to say that you´re a child because you make mistakes? well then we are a society of kids, wonderful
Compare the Yuuki from chapter 83 to the Yuuki at the beginning? don´t you see differences? All the things that happend triggered a change! She had to deal with a lot of things and started fighting! We as readers see both side, what Kaname thinks and what Yuuki thinks, now try to look at everything from Yuuki´s point of view. She must be very shocked and insecure! If there are so many people who tell you different things, maybe things you don´t want to hear it can be quite confusing. Yuuki tries to find the right way and tries to decide (and I think Kaname doesn´t make it easy for her to take his side, because he doesn´t want her to team up with him...Yuuki notices certain sentences and movements from kaname which show that he has still feelings for her but I think that she can´t understand them properly, she hears bad things about him she sees bad things which happen because of kaname...Yuuki is in a difficult position right now!)
Don´t understand me wrong I´m not a big fan of her too and she does stupid things but she goes through something quite difficult, confusing and hard right now, you have to watch the circumstances too...we have different knowledge that Yuuki, she doesn´t know as much as we know...her whole wonderful world with Kaname colapses right now and she needs to make decisions on her own right now and we all know that this can be quite hard when you have to do it when no one watches you and takes care that you don´t make mistakes...and I think that shows that she grew up: she decides! She choses her own way adn makes her decisions alone! And I think that the things that happened lately made her grow up!
guys i agree with you and i know more than you the facts i am telling are quite stupid but i just can't bear how things are going right now.well one thing,yeah she is taking decision but let me ask this straight,is her decision to capture kaname is right or wrong??
hmm...so accn to yuuki its right to stop kaname but doesn't she have a little faith in kaname??she knew that kaname did everything to save her going as far as killing shizuka,she herself said he is a liar,can't she see he is lying to her,she knows about the tablet thing of sara,if she can't have faith in kaname she shouldn't have in sara or even zero.she should try to see all things if she has so grown up.sara is a threat to all vamps and humans,she is needed to be killed.but the most jerkish thing was yagari blaming kaname for her fiance's death.how he was involved in it??Katherine wrote:lucykaede wrote:Katherine wrote:
even adults make mistakes lucykaede or do you want to say that you´re a child because you make mistakes? well then we are a society of kids, wonderful
Compare the Yuuki from chapter 83 to the Yuuki at the beginning? don´t you see differences? All the things that happend triggered a change! She had to deal with a lot of things and started fighting! We as readers see both side, what Kaname thinks and what Yuuki thinks, now try to look at everything from Yuuki´s point of view. She must be very shocked and insecure! If there are so many people who tell you different things, maybe things you don´t want to hear it can be quite confusing. Yuuki tries to find the right way and tries to decide (and I think Kaname doesn´t make it easy for her to take his side, because he doesn´t want her to team up with him...Yuuki notices certain sentences and movements from kaname which show that he has still feelings for her but I think that she can´t understand them properly, she hears bad things about him she sees bad things which happen because of kaname...Yuuki is in a difficult position right now!)
Don´t understand me wrong I´m not a big fan of her too and she does stupid things but she goes through something quite difficult, confusing and hard right now, you have to watch the circumstances too...we have different knowledge that Yuuki, she doesn´t know as much as we know...her whole wonderful world with Kaname colapses right now and she needs to make decisions on her own right now and we all know that this can be quite hard when you have to do it when no one watches you and takes care that you don´t make mistakes...and I think that shows that she grew up: she decides! She choses her own way adn makes her decisions alone! And I think that the things that happened lately made her grow up!
guys i agree with you and i know more than you the facts i am telling are quite stupid but i just can't bear how things are going right now.well one thing,yeah she is taking decision but let me ask this straight,is her decision to capture kaname is right or wrong??
Look at the facts Yuuki has and push away the reader´s thoughts (that kaname does everything for a higher reason): Yuuki gets information about Kaname which say: kaname is evil and crazy right now and he kills purebloods out of some crazy and stupid reason...if you know who the next victim is what would you do: let him kill Sara and look away? or would you stop him and examine his reasons in a questioning?
Well I wouldn´t let him kill someone...if I had only Yuuki´s information
lucykaede wrote:hmm...so accn to yuuki its right to stop kaname but doesn't she have a little faith in kaname??she knew that kaname did everything to save her going as far as killing shizuka,she herself said he is a liar,can't she see he is lying to her,she knows about the tablet thing of sara,if she can't have faith in kaname she shouldn't have in sara or even zero.she should try to see all things if she has so grown up.sara is a threat to all vamps and humans,she is needed to be killed.but the most jerkish thing was yagari blaming kaname for her fiance's death.how he was involved in it??Katherine wrote:lucykaede wrote:
guys i agree with you and i know more than you the facts i am telling are quite stupid but i just can't bear how things are going right now.well one thing,yeah she is taking decision but let me ask this straight,is her decision to capture kaname is right or wrong??
Look at the facts Yuuki has and push away the reader´s thoughts (that kaname does everything for a higher reason): Yuuki gets information about Kaname which say: kaname is evil and crazy right now and he kills purebloods out of some crazy and stupid reason...if you know who the next victim is what would you do: let him kill Sara and look away? or would you stop him and examine his reasons in a questioning?
Well I wouldn´t let him kill someone...if I had only Yuuki´s information
Katherine wrote:lucykaede wrote:hmm...so accn to yuuki its right to stop kaname but doesn't she have a little faith in kaname??she knew that kaname did everything to save her going as far as killing shizuka,she herself said he is a liar,can't she see he is lying to her,she knows about the tablet thing of sara,if she can't have faith in kaname she shouldn't have in sara or even zero.she should try to see all things if she has so grown up.sara is a threat to all vamps and humans,she is needed to be killed.but the most jerkish thing was yagari blaming kaname for her fiance's death.how he was involved in it??Katherine wrote:
Look at the facts Yuuki has and push away the reader´s thoughts (that kaname does everything for a higher reason): Yuuki gets information about Kaname which say: kaname is evil and crazy right now and he kills purebloods out of some crazy and stupid reason...if you know who the next victim is what would you do: let him kill Sara and look away? or would you stop him and examine his reasons in a questioning?
Well I wouldn´t let him kill someone...if I had only Yuuki´s information
I can´´t understand too why Yuuki has faith in sara...for me she doesn´t seem trustworthy especially when Yuuki found out that she made the students her slaves...i thought that she would notice it there and stop her...we see that Yuuki is wondering why Kaname treats her well and cares for her so she HAS to know that he isn´t absolutely bad! But she still knows that he has done something bad and maybe she wants to stop him because she wants him to be the good guy again...maybe she just uses Sara to capture Kaname to make him good again! We don´t know yet...thats the reason why I said that i would try to stop Kaname if I were Yuuki but I wouldn´t kill him but question him...I think that Yuuki doesn´t want him to do something evil...what do you think? what would you do? I think she is in quite a dilemma righ now
lucykaede wrote:Katherine wrote:lucykaede wrote:
hmm...so accn to yuuki its right to stop kaname but doesn't she have a little faith in kaname??she knew that kaname did everything to save her going as far as killing shizuka,she herself said he is a liar,can't she see he is lying to her,she knows about the tablet thing of sara,if she can't have faith in kaname she shouldn't have in sara or even zero.she should try to see all things if she has so grown up.sara is a threat to all vamps and humans,she is needed to be killed.but the most jerkish thing was yagari blaming kaname for her fiance's death.how he was involved in it??
I can´´t understand too why Yuuki has faith in sara...for me she doesn´t seem trustworthy especially when Yuuki found out that she made the students her slaves...i thought that she would notice it there and stop her...we see that Yuuki is wondering why Kaname treats her well and cares for her so she HAS to know that he isn´t absolutely bad! But she still knows that he has done something bad and maybe she wants to stop him because she wants him to be the good guy again...maybe she just uses Sara to capture Kaname to make him good again! We don´t know yet...thats the reason why I said that i would try to stop Kaname if I were Yuuki but I wouldn´t kill him but question him...I think that Yuuki doesn´t want him to do something evil...what do you think? what would you do? I think she is in quite a dilemma righ now
yeah why she is so protective of sara when she has hints of her being evil??that proves she has not grown up but proving she is a adorable.i don't know about kaname thing but in sara's case she did a really disappointing thing.
Elfiena Fiefie wrote:ambi9942* wrote: ok heres another question why do you think zero and kaname are at a ty right know, or do you know if theres a poll between zeki and yume fans???
very curious to find out!
its not tie anymore,more people hate kaname than zero this really make me upset!
poll between zeki n yume fan? i dont know about that.
i'm a YuMe fan(n will always be!) but i love zero too! so i just dont get it why people hate zero or kaname?
Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Elfiena Fiefie wrote:ambi9942* wrote: ok heres another question why do you think zero and kaname are at a ty right know, or do you know if theres a poll between zeki and yume fans???
very curious to find out!
its not tie anymore,more people hate kaname than zero this really make me upset!
poll between zeki n yume fan? i dont know about that.
i'm a YuMe fan(n will always be!) but i love zero too! so i just dont get it why people hate zero or kaname?
Glad to hear this :O Some people think they have to hate Zero just because he's a love rival... In the very beginning I was sort of the same as you, I liked Kaname by himself while still supporting zeki, but over time I grew to dislike Kaname and it had nothing to do with the LT, just by his own actions. :/
3. TEACH YUUKI HOW TO FIGHT TEACH YUUKI HOW TO FIGHT, she is constantly in danger, stop trying to clip her wings & teach her some PUREBLOOD POWERs!
Li.llium wrote:3. TEACH YUUKI HOW TO FIGHT TEACH YUUKI HOW TO FIGHT, she is constantly in danger, stop trying to clip her wings & teach her some PUREBLOOD POWERs!O.M.G.
these lines were epic. Epic. I never understood what´s the reason or circumstance, why Kaname didn´t teach the the ABC to Yuki. After all, he knows she will fight eventually. And she has merely wings and...artemis...but...ruka has hers powers...so.
Probably he did not consider it necessary, because he was protecting Yuki and Zero is the replacement shell. That just makes her more regrettable as heroine
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zeroandyuuki wrote:Kaname makes me pissed off because he keeps killing everybody.
nina wrote:zeroandyuuki wrote:Kaname makes me pissed off because he keeps killing everybody.
Oh then he should have had killed Zero too ... tsk he missed the oportunity and he had him on his knees
Katherine wrote:nina wrote:zeroandyuuki wrote:Kaname makes me pissed off because he keeps killing everybody.
Oh then he should have had killed Zero too ... tsk he missed the oportunity and he had him on his knees
You´re so evil nina, hurting this fans´feelings ;)
This scene was so great (a cool sentence from Kaname like: "Now I´m the boss" or "little children need to know when they have to stop" missed )
Evil in love wrote:Where is Takuma in the lists?
Hahaha I know Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
I loved that scene too! cheers The good thing though is that Zero (the pupil) realized Kaname's "lesson" (^_~)
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