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    Post by witlessfool Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:27 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Disclaimer: I've done this a couple of times before so for those who are familiar with me translating VK chapters from Chinese, you know the drill. The translation will inevitably be wrong in certain spots. Other areas, the dialogue could probably be worded a bit better but I want to keep everything as direct translations where-ever possible. Brackets contains my interpretations of the dodgy areas.

    Also, whenever one character is speaking across several panels, I put them in separate lines.

    EDIT: Underlines signify japanese translation of dodgy areas. See Narumi Maruru's comment on LJ for the details.

    Titlepage: The Seventy-fifth Night: Puppet
    Byline: Vampire Hunter’s Fight and – Loneliness

    Page 1:
    Zero: Kaname Kuran, hasn’t he already decided to kill out all the pureblood?
    In that case, there’s no reason to stop him, in my opinion.

    Back at the school
    Yuuki: Strange
    Rima: Eh?

    Page 2:
    Yuuki: Where’s Aidou-senpai?
    Rima: He’s taking over your duties and have ducked out for awhile
    Yuuki: Ah...
    Because I cannot freely leave this place
    Yuuki: Ah... but what if he does something strange and deliberately annoys the Hunter Association?
    Rima: Who knows?
    [Next panel, still Rima, glancing over at Sara]: Ah, Class President, for this reason, he’ll be temporarily absent.
    Sara: Ah... it’s like that...

    Page 3:
    Yuuki: Please don’t let the Association carelessly aggravate Aidou-senpai
    Kaito: What arrogance...
    [Glancing over at Zero] Although, we already know roughly where that rascal has gone to. Oi, Zero, you saw too, right?
    Zero: They’re here
    Yagari: Sorry for the wait
    Zero: What happened? To deliberately drag us here to the corner of the school ground?

    Page 4:
    Yagari: Because there’s something that we need to say that cannot be heard within the walls of the Association’s headquarters.
    [Yuuki stands in front of Zero]
    Yagari: Hey...
    Yuuki: What are you planning to do to Zero?

    Page 5
    Zero [Pushes Yuuki aside]: You weren’t called here. Go.
    Don’t act like my guardian or something (This line was slightly confusing. The general gist is Zero doesn’t want Yuuki to jump in and protect him)
    "Don't act like you own me"
    Yuuki: That type of speech
    That tone of disgust... it’s just like before
    Yagari: It’s okay, Zero. Maybe it’s a good thing to let her hear it. We just don’t want the President to hear this.

    Page 6:
    Yagori: We don’t share the President’s viewpoints. We hope Kaname Kuran can continue what he’s doing.
    Therefore... we feel, this time, his individual actions will only get in the way.

    Page 7:
    Kaname, blocking the sword: What a strange thing to ask...
    You of all people here have the most experience dealing with vampires. You should know very clearly.
    Kaien: I, Kaname, have thought that you’ve decided

    Page 8:
    Kaien: to walk down the path together with Yuuki.
    There would come a day... when you will reveal to me the responsibilities you’ve carried on your shoulders.
    [Flash back]
    When Yuuki grows up, there’s no way she can maintain her “human” self.
    When that time comes, I think this time... this time it will be my turn to change Yuuki into a “human”


    Page 9:
    Kaien: Your plans from back then have not transpired. To tell you the truth, I breathed out a sigh of relief.
    Because Juuri-san, they would not have wanted this type of ending... But –
    After having changed your mind, is this really the path you’re going to choose?
    Yuuki, somewhere deep inside, still believes in you

    Page 10:
    Kaname: That’s so like Yuuki...
    Please tell Yuuki – if you tell her this, maybe she’ll realize – tell her I killed Ouri-san. Next one will be Sara Shirabuki.

    Page 11:
    Kaien: Kaname...!
    Ruka looks on from the side. She glances up and notices Isaya watching from the window.

    Page 12:
    Hanabusa: Lost track of him...
    Where did he go... President of the Association?
    I saw the heavy expression on the President’s face as he headed off somewhere.
    Due to my excellent quick-thinking (Basically, Aidou's praising himself here), I sneakily followed him here


    Page 13:
    Hanabusa: The President must have found out Kaname-sama’s whereabouts
    Therefore... Kaname-sama could be somewhere close by...
    [Panel, super furious Hanabusa] Feel it! My Kaname-sama sensor! (Basically, Hanabusa thinks he should be able to sense Kaname’s whereabouts)
    [Panel, calm Hanabusa] That sort of thing... I would have done that sort of thing in the past... I was so naive back then...
    Hanabusa: What? There’s a party nearby?

    Page 14:
    Akatsuki, looking on...
    Lady with the tablets: Thank you so much
    Guy handing out the pills: It’s nothing really
    Akatsuki grabs the tablets as the lady walks by him

    Page 15:
    Lady: Ah! What are you doing? Give it back to me.
    Hey! Give it back!
    Akatsuki, with the bottle high above his head: What’s in the bottle?
    Guy, setting down another jar: If it’s okay, you can take this one.
    Guys runs away and bumps into Hanabusa: Ah, sorry
    Hanabusa: Was there a ball or a meeting somewhere here?
    Guy: No

    Page 16:
    Aidou: Ai...
    Akatsuki: ... Hanabusa ...
    Aidou: Eh... you...
    Where have you been, I can never get ahold of you!
    (Can also be interpreted as “I can’t make contact with you”)
    Hey... Akatsuki...

    Page 17:
    Aidou, stepping and pausing: Huh?
    Akatsuki: Sorry, Hanabusa.
    Please escort this collapsed lady to the Association. Her behaviour was very strange.
    Hanabusa: What?
    Akatsuki: Also take that jar of medicine rolling around on the ground with you.
    Hanabusa: Hey, wait a second.
    Wait, where are you going?

    Page 18:
    Akatsuki, setting a line of fire between him and Hanabusa: Back... back to Kaname-sama’s side

    Page 19:
    Vampire girl: Hey, do you know what type these new blood tablets are?
    (Not sure if she’s asking about "What do you think about these tablets" or if she's asking what blood type it is or what. The chinese characters were a bit ambiguous)
    Rima: I don’t know
    Girl: But... my grandmother did recommend this
    Rima: To push out a new drug at such times of unrest?
    Girl: I think it was under Sara-sama’s orders. It came out through Ichijou’s pharmaceutical company.
    Rima: But... how is a good enough reason to take those pills?
    Girl: Why?
    Rima: Because it’s too quick. Did they spend enough time thoroughly testing their effects?

    Page 20:
    Rima: Us vampires are totally submerged into the human society and their politics.
    But humans can kill vampires with no legal consequence. And to casually push out a relatively unknown new blood tablet.
    We might have a lifespan that’s so much longer than a human’s and much stronger powers. But apart from the reputation of nobles, we really have nothing to protect ourselves. If only the Senate had better used their powers...
    The reason for my bitter thoughts...
    (Image of Kaname's back) is because the king of the purebloods have already betrayed us vampires...

    Page 21:
    Kaname: So troubling... I want you to pass that message to Yuuki
    (I have a feeling the first bit "So troubling" is wrong, but I can't figure out he's trying to get at here)
    "It's troublesome..."

    Page 22:
    Kaname: Please... do not stop me
    Kaien: Do you seriously expect me to stand aside and watch the Shouto clan be destroyed?
    "you expect me to let you attack Isaya-kun's house and watch doing nothing?"
    Stop joking, I haven’t yet asked you.
    What are your reasons for doing this?

    Page 23:
    Kaname: It’s so simple, there’s no need to say it out loud –
    It’s just that the road forward will be different, the aim has never been changed.
    "my objective has been the same all along, I just changed the road to reach it"
    Say –

    Page 24:
    Kaname: As the President of the Vampire Hunter Association, you should have no problems with my actions, Kaien Cross.

    Page 25:
    Kaien: Huh, I have no wish to see the destruction of the purebloods.
    (Kaname collapses into a horde of bats)
    Kaname...!

    Page 26:
    Touma: So cruel... I’ve been seriously used...
    Kaien: You... you’re from the pureblood Touma clan, aren’t you?
    He was controlled?
    Touma: Say... how about giving me one last blow? OR In a way, it’s like giving me one final blow.
    (Hard to decide what he was saying. One way of interpreting it is he wants Kaien to finish him off. But it can also be interpreted as a reference back to Chapter 61, when Kaname said “I won’t do more to you than this one last hit” as in this was Kaname’s final hit to him as punishment for what he did to Yuuki. Maybe the Japanese translation will be a lot more clearer than this.)
    Kaname is serious about deciding to exterminate all the purebloods.

    Page 27:
    The man, to whom Yuuki meant everything...
    (Translation may be completely off with this line)
    Yuuki: Ah... In a little while, it will be morning.
    Kaito: So calm... have you taken in what they’ve said?

    Page 28:
    Yuuki: If that’s a way to tell me to “go and tell your adoptive father”, it won’t work, Kaito-sensei
    Kaito: Whatever. If Kaname Kuran was to destroy the purebloods, then our wishes would be fulfilled.
    Chairman... If he was to know about this, he would be very saddened.
    Kaito (con’t): You, also, don’t try to interfere. Although I’m saying this, in reality, you can’t do anything but stay here.
    Don’t know what that rascal’s aims are. And we also don’t know much about the anti-vampire weapon he’s wielding. But it’s clear that no matter what, you will be spared.
    To spare a pureblood who’s sympathetic to humankind is not a bad thing. As long as it’s just one person.

    Page 29:
    Yuuki: Just like your sensei, you should just let all those ruthless words off your chest. If there’s just me living for eternity, all the problems of the existence of purebloods will cease to exist.
    Zero: I’m clearly aware of that. It’s so clear I want to forget it all.
    Kaito sighs: I’m going to sleep. I’ll pass the responsibility of escorting her back to you, Zero.
    Yuuki: Zero... I can’t make any promises. Because I’ve already decided, no matter what, to stop Kaname...

    Page 30:
    Yuuki: But the important people in the Hunter Association all want the purebloods to all disappear
    Zero: Yes, eventually
    Yuuki: Does Zero also wish for “all”?
    Zero: All
    [Panel, Yuuki’s thought] All...

    Page 31:
    Yuuki (Grabbing Zero): Is there any shade around here?
    The morning rays are so painful
    Zero: If you are done talking, I’ll be going
    Yuuki: Sorry, I...

    Page 32:
    Yuuki: Sorry... I... I know... Just then, [flashback to when Zero was pushing her away] you were just...

    Page 33:
    Yuuki: In front of a horde of vampire hunters with killing auras, you protected me
    The pair looked at each other

    Page34:
    Yuuki: To eliminate all the purebloods, you never believed in that.
    Zero is more gentle than anyone else
    Therefore, your heart has not been broken.
    Zero puts gun to her temple.

    Page35:
    Yuuki: It’s okay. If I am wrong, then pull the trigger.
    Besides, sooner or later, I’ll be dealt with by the Hunter Association.
    (Literal translation: I’ll be picked off by the Hunter Association. As in, the vampire hunters will pick off the purebloods one at a time)
    Sara walks in: Ah... what a dangerous game...

    Page 36:
    Sara walks into the scene
    Yuuki: What is it?
    Sara: What an attitude, am I not trusted?
    What have I ever done to you?
    Yuuki: Ah... nothing

    Page 37:
    Sara: I see... Even if I were to tell you secrets, it would be a waste of time.
    Yuuki: Secrets...?
    Sara: Did you think I would carelessly reveal things to those who do not trust me?
    You two... please continue whatever it was you were doing...

    Page 38:
    Takuma knocking on the door: Shiki, are you asleep?
    Shiki, opening the door: What is it, Ichijou?
    Takuma, smiling, holding up those tablets: I’ve got something to give you.

    Done! cheers cheers cheers

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    Post by Akaruisama Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:44 am

    Thanks for translation!
    I hope Kaname doesn't plan sacrificing himself to turn Yuuki into a vampire again!
    I think Hino plau with us. She knowsfans are consderating such end so she is trying to confuse us all.
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    Post by ckaien Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:34 am

    ok wow.... im kinda floored, actually upset thst Yagari is for mutiny against Kaien. What the heck? Theyre freinds! Im kinda hurt by this in all honesty. Does Kaien not have any love in his life? Not even a simple trusted respect frrom Yagari??
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    Post by witlessfool Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:37 am

    mariangie wrote:
    But the tentative tittle is " Puppet " . As said in A Dreamer in Drugs summary .

    A Dreamer in Drugs summary here :

    http://web.pitas.com/tatsukida/

    The tittle is refering to Touma being used as a puppet for Kaname during this chapter scenes .

    That's really interesting.

    The literal translation from the title page (in the chinese scans) is vk hunter's fight & loneliness with the picture of Kaien with his sword. I thought it might have been worded better as "vk hunter's lonely fight" (which pretty much sums up Kaien's situation atm) but the chinese characters were definitely fight AND loneliness. So scratch not sure.
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    Post by keira Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:00 am

    witlessfool wrote:

    That's really interesting.

    The literal translation from the title page (in the chinese scans) is vk hunter's fight & loneliness with the picture of Kaien with his sword. I thought it might have been worded better as "vk hunter's lonely fight" (which pretty much sums up Kaien's situation atm) but the chinese characters were definitely fight AND loneliness. So scratch not sure.


    I think that it also signifies the lonliness Kaname is facing in this fight? Keeping it from Yuuki and wanting Yuuki to treat him as the 'enemy' it sounds pretty lonely doesnt it?

    I hope someone Yuuki stops him soon. I dont think anyone else will be able to convince him. Though at the rate she is going im a little worried that she'll only find out when kaname comes to turn her human. Kaname's life up till now seems so sad Crying or Very sad I really hope he gets the peace that he wants between humans and vampires and also gets to live a happy life, that isnt so lonely Crying or Very sad


    I think that Yuuki is a little naive/slow isnt she?
    I mean, Sara is circulating drugs right under her nose. And she dosent seem to be making progress at the night class too.And since she already knows that Kaname's plan is to kill all purebloods. Surely, she should suspect that Kaname sacrifice himself would turn her into a human, no? She should know that Kaname would never kill her. So shouldn't she be doing something about it? She says that she wants to stop him. And yet it seems that she is doing nothing/making no progress. Actually im not too sure either where she plans to head to by reforming the night class, since she hasn't made much of a progress there?

    Can someone explain to me what Yuuki's plans are and what she is planning to do with the night class? scratch

    Much appreciated! Smile
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    Post by mariangie Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:02 am

    witlessfool wrote:
    mariangie wrote:
    But the tentative tittle is " Puppet " . As said in A Dreamer in Drugs summary .

    A Dreamer in Drugs summary here :

    http://web.pitas.com/tatsukida/

    The tittle is refering to Touma being used as a puppet for Kaname during this chapter scenes .

    That's really interesting.

    The literal translation from the title page (in the chinese scans) is vk hunter's fight & loneliness with the picture of Kaien with his sword. I thought it might have been worded better as "vk hunter's lonely fight" (which pretty much sums up Kaien's situation atm) but the chinese characters were definitely fight AND loneliness. So scratch not sure.

    I'm quoting the entire blog summary of Kat of A Dreamer on Drugs .


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    Title: Puppet. The scene with Zero just says about his belief of not hindering Kaname if he wants to kill purebloods. In class, Yuuki notices that Hanabusa is gone. Rima tells her that instead of her, he went out to act. Yuuki just says ya, for she cannot freely go out. She is worried about things he would do that would make the association misunderstand. Rima tells Sara that Hanabusa will be absent. By the forest, Yuuki tells Kaito about Hanabusa. Kaito says that he generally know where he went. Then, Toga, together with other hunters, arrives. Zero asks what the matter is, that they are called to this place. Toga says that there is something that cannot be talked about within the association. Yuuki quickly goes in front of Zero with arms spread sideways. She asks them of what they are planning to do with Zero. Zero puts his hand on her head and says that she isn’t called, so leave, and don’t act like his pet owner. This made Yuuki blush a bit for she thinks that the way he say it, is like before. Toga tells Zero that it is okay for Yuuki to hear this for they only do not want the president [Kaien] to hear this. Toga and others do not agree with the president about Kaname continuing what he is doing so they felt that this time around, Kaien’s solo action is a hindrance. The scene changes to Kaien whose sword is being held by Kaname. Kaien says the he hopes he is wrong but why is Kaname annihilating the pure blood. Kaname says that his question is strange for he ought to know because he had dealt with vampires for a long time. After finally pulling his sword back away from Kaname, Kaien says that he thought Kaname chose the path of being together with Yuuki. That day [when the Kurans were young] Kaname said that he will carry his own responsibility that when Yuuki grows up, they can no longer keep this ‘human’ identity/status so Kaname thought that it will be his turn to make Yuuki into a human. Kaien admits that he is relieved that Kaname didn’t make that into a reality for Juri wouldn’t have wanted that kind of ending but Kaname changed the plan, and is this, the path he chose. He tells Kaname that somewhere in Yuuki’s heart, she still trusts him. After a pause, Kaname says that is so Yuuki’s style. He tells Kaien to tell Yuuki that if she says that, even if it is her, she would ‘awaken’ by telling her ‘Speaking of that, I also killed Ouri-sama and the next one is Shirobuki Sara.’ This made Kaien angrily shout his name. Ruka just watches them then she notices that inside the mansion, Isaya is also watching from the window. Walking around, Hanabusa is frustrated that he lost track of Kaien. He had decided to follow Kaien who went out, looking serious, but of course, he cannot chase after a running car. He is sure that Kaien has gotten hold of information regarding Kaname’s whereabouts. He tries to use his some mental telepathy to feel where Kaname-sama is, because he thinks Kaname is nearby. =P Then, he notices a lot of people that he wonders if there is some sort of night meeting.




    Observing things, Kain is standing by some building. A woman takes a bottle of pills and thanks a man. Kain quickly takes the bottle which angers the woman. While the woman keeps on trying to get it back, Kain asks the man what’s inside the bottle. The man puts down another bottle and says that if it is okay, he can have it, too. The man quickly leaves and bumps into Hanabusa. He asks the man if there is some meeting there but the man says there is none. When he turns around, Hanabusa is surprised to see Kain who is using his power. Hanabusa kicks the bottle on the floor [that he didn’t notice] and goes to Kain to tell him that he cannot get in touch with him. Then, he notices that he is stepping on someone on the ground. Kain tells Hanabusa to bring that woman to the association because she is acting weird, as well as that, bottle of medicine. Hanabusa shouts for him to wait, where he is going. Kain says he is going back to Kaname-sama’s side. With that, Kain uses his fire to make his exit. In some room, Rima’s roommate[?] asks her if she knows about this blood pills [in a blister pack] that was recommended by her grandmother. Rima is suspicious that a new medicine is being pushed during these not too peaceful times. The girl says that it is developed by a pharmaceutical company under Sara. Rima asks if they can relax with that reason, and just put that thing into their mouths. When asked why, Rima said that it is because there isn’t much time spent on finding out the side effects. She complains that vampires had merge into human society’s politics and economy that they have to obey human rules but there is no punishment on humans who kill vampires, and they are pushing this unknown drug to them. Even if vampires are stronger and have a longer lifespan, except for glorifying nobility, there is nothing that protects them and restricts them. She thinks it would be better if the council of ancients can show more function and what deeply pains her is the chief of purebloods had already betrayed the vampires. Back to Kaname, his chest is slightly cut while Kaien’s left arm is wounded. He says that it is quite troublesome and he still wants Kaien to pass the message to Yuuki. Kaname asks Kaien to please do not hinder him. Kaien asks if he wants him to just keep his eyes open as he attacks Isaya’s house. Kaien tells him to quit joking around and he still hasn’t asked him about the reason. Just as Kaien attacks him, Kaname asks what reason, it is so simple that there’s no need to say it. Kaname jumps on top of the wall to evade the attack. Kaname tells him that he is just moving towards a different path but the goal is still the same. He reminds Kaien that since he is the association’s president, he should not be rejecting the way he does things. Kaien uses his sword to hit Kaname’s shoulder. After removing the sword, Kaien says that he doesn’t want purebloods to be annihilated like this. He is surprised when Kaname suddenly turned into bats. What’s left is injured Toma who curses that he was used to be given the last blow. Kaien thinks that Kaname is serious about annihilating the purebloods.




    Soon, it will be morning. Kaito comments at how calm Yuuki is after hearing that. She tells him that it is useless to tell her to ‘persuade her father’ and if she is to complain about it, they will be scolded. Kaito tells her to do what she wants but Kaname is an expert in making pureblood disappear so their wish is becoming a reality. Yuuki thinks that the president will be sad to hear that. Kaito warns her not to interfere and she should just like before, just stand there and be good. He says that he doesn’t know Kaname’s goal or to what extent Kaname can swing around a hunter weapon but without a doubt, she will not be annihilated. It isn’t bad to leave behind a pureblood who is nice to people even if it is only one person. Yuuki comments that he can say such cruel things for making her live and pass the time of eternity all by herself. Zero says that pureblood are troublesome existence and he simply wants to forget. Kaito sighs and says that he is going to sleep, and it is Zero’s duty to bring her back [to the dorm]. After Kaito left, Yuuki tells Zero that she cannot promise anything but no matter what happens, she is going to stop Kaname but the important people in the association wants all of the purebloods to disappear. She asks Zero if it is also ‘all’ for him. She looks sad and then notices Zero’s shadow on the floor. She pulls his sleeve and tells them to go to the side since the school building can be seen. Behind a tree, Yuuki complains about the sun. Looking away, Zero says that if she is finished talking, he’s leaving. Yuuki apologizes and says she knows that a while ago, in front of the hunters who let out a killer intent for a moment, Zero protected her. She tells him that he obviously doesn’t think about wanting to kill ‘all’ of the pureblood because he is kind, compared to anyone, so the heart has not been destroyed. Zero points his gun on Yuuki’s head. Unfazed Yuuki tells him to pull the trigger if she is wrong about what she said, anyway, at some unknown time, she will be picked on by the association. They were interrupted when Sara arrives and says that is quite a dangerous game they are playing. Zero puts down his gun and Yuuki looks at him. Sara seems to have giggled that puzzled Yuuki asks what is it. Sara says that kind of attitude, she isn’t trusted by Yuuki, what she did to her. Yuuki blankly says nothing. Sara says that since it is like this, it would be a waste for her to tell some important secret. Yuuki asks, secret. Sara asks if Yuuki thinks that she would just tell it to someone who doesn’t trust her. She turns around to leave and tells the two to continue [what they are doing]. At the dorm, Takuma knocks on the door and calls out to Senri. Senri asks what is it. With a smile, waiter turn into salesman Takuma smiles and tells him that there is something he wants to give him. It is a blister packed pill.




    I’m amused over a comment in baidu who wrote that in the association, Kaien is the ‘black sheep’ while among the vampires, Kaname is the ‘black sheep’. Given their respective positions, it does seem quite ironic that Kaien seems to be protecting ‘bad vampires’ while Kaname is the one killing the ‘bad vampires’. Since Kaien is doing the attacking, I wonder if the wound inflicted on him is a defensive move by Kaname. I think for Kaname to be able to do this ‘switcheroo’, he is really a dangerous enemy. Wait..is it possible that Kaname also did this with Aidou papa..ah..can Kaname use someone else or it has to someone else pretending to be him? Hm..I wonder if Kaien will tell the others that he was the one who cut/killed Toma..though it is unintentionally ^^; Well, this slightly confirms that Kaname can be a bit suicidal if it is for Yuuki’s sake. It does make me wonder if Kaname will do it in the end, after all the purebloods are killed..that is, to turn Yuuki back into a human and probably erase her memories. Well, I better prepare myself for that possibility. Given Kaname’s threat, I guess he might actually stop if it is Yuuki who told him to stop for it seems he really wants her to forget about/give up on believing in him. Well, I guess father and daughter are the same about not wanting people to be killed especially if they were presumed to be not doing anything wrong. Hanabusa is quite funny about trying to find Kaname using his feeling..even after what happened, he still highly regards Kaname. I should say that Kaname and Kain’s exit are pretty cool ^^ Anyway, it is obvious that there is something between Yuuki and Zero..and Zero doesn’t seem to be true to his feelings..as always. Sara is obviously up to something about those drugs being spread around. It makes me wonder if Takuma is giving Senri some evidence or he is pushing those drugs. ^^; Scans by 玖玖爱枢♀汉化. By the way, the pictures are not in accordance to what happened but rather, on certain characters’ scene.




    Kat said the tittle was " Puppet " . First sentence of her summary .

    I got exactly the same translation of the tittle when asked some friend before reading Kat's summary .

    Coincidence ?
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    Post by witlessfool Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:04 am

    mariangie wrote: Kat said the tittle was " Puppet " . First sentence of her summary .

    I got exactly the same translation of the tittle when asked some friend before reading Kat's summary .

    Coincidence?

    I apologize if my comment seemed to be like I was doubting you. My "That's interesting" comment conveyed curiosity and intrigue over the possibility of what "puppet" could be referring to. (It's so hard to convey tone when typing!)

    I had another look at the Chinese scan and found where the misunderstanding came about. I translated the words next to Kaien's swords: "Vampire Hunter's Fight and - Loneliness"

    Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 E1cd96fceaa2db2ad7887d70

    The "Puppet" title is the 2 words words under the "Vampire Knight" banner (and just above Matsuri Hino's name). It reads: "The seventy-fifth night: puppet"

    I never doubted your comment, I was just puzzled. But I'm glad it's all clear now cheers
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    Post by witlessfool Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:07 am

    Just a quick heads-up, Narumi Maruru commented on LJ and cleared up some of the dodgy areas with Japanese translation. I've made changes on the opening post, striked out my words and put in the new ones as underlines. Please check it out. Hopefully, it clears some things. cheers
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    Post by juliet Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:51 am

    witlessfool wrote:Just a quick heads-up, Narumi Maruru commented on LJ and cleared up some of the dodgy areas with Japanese translation. I've made changes on the opening post, striked out my words and put in the new ones as underlines. Please check it out. Hopefully, it clears some things. cheers

    thanks for revising cheers
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    Post by nina Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:22 pm

    @witlessfool thank you for the translation!!!! Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 1927775417

    Is it only me or we have more questions than answers AGAIN??? *sigh*

    Well at least we have “food” for more theories haha … Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 594618053
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    Post by Lisi Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:57 pm

    thank you!

    @nina
    i thought the same. xD
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    Post by RedSonja Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:30 pm

    i dont get it...when kaname has a flash back in page 8 he sais that he will change yuki into a human??does he mean after she has turned to a pb again or his original plan was to make turn her human,istead of juri?? scratch Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 594618053
    nice chapter though and translaion,only that some pages are missing from the link,right?


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    Post by Katherine Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:33 pm

    RavenBlack wrote:i dont get it...when kaname has a flash back in page 8 he sais that he will change yuki into a human??does he mean after she has turned to a pb again or his original plan was to make turn her human,istead of juri?? scratch Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 594618053

    I think he meant to change her into a human after she has turned back into a pureblood
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    Post by RedSonja Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:37 pm

    Katherine wrote:
    RavenBlack wrote:i dont get it...when kaname has a flash back in page 8 he sais that he will change yuki into a human??does he mean after she has turned to a pb again or his original plan was to make turn her human,istead of juri?? scratch Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 594618053

    I think he meant to change her into a human after she has turned back into a pureblood
    aaaaaaaaaaaahhh...
    ok thanx..... Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 1927775417
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    Post by Katherine Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:40 pm

    RavenBlack wrote:
    Katherine wrote:
    RavenBlack wrote:i dont get it...when kaname has a flash back in page 8 he sais that he will change yuki into a human??does he mean after she has turned to a pb again or his original plan was to make turn her human,istead of juri?? scratch Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 594618053

    I think he meant to change her into a human after she has turned back into a pureblood
    aaaaaaaaaaaahhh...
    ok thanx..... Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 1927775417

    you´re welcome...I just loved that scene Yuuki looked so cute and Kaname was adorable...
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    Post by RedSonja Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:32 pm

    i found at youtube a full scanalation of chapter 75 and i saw the part where toyma appears and says to kaien to finish him off...its rather complicatig cause its like kaname took his form(????)
    or something like that....
    here's the link,check it out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r4fQ56qjYI
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    Post by Trinity Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:31 pm

    Thanks for the translations Smile

    The only thing that truly bothers me about this "revelation" if you will, is that if Kanames true goal is infact to sacrifice himself for Yuukis humanity I don't think that will be in her best interest. At all. Yuuki wouldn't want to be human again, i'm sure we all remember how painful it was for her as a human, she wouldn't want to be treated like a child again and to be left in the dark which is what this would do, the only person who would benefit from this is in fact Kaname, the man who had waited 10,000 years for death. Also isn't it cruel on himself if he wanted this that he would allow himself to get close to Yuuki and for them both to develop a love for each other? =/ All seems so very strange D: Just a little thought that's been nagging me XD
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    Post by Knightmare Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:00 pm

    Trinity wrote:Thanks for the translations Smile

    The only thing that truly bothers me about this "revelation" if you will, is that if Kanames true goal is infact to sacrifice himself for Yuukis humanity I don't think that will be in her best interest. At all. Yuuki wouldn't want to be human again, i'm sure we all remember how painful it was for her as a human, she wouldn't want to be treated like a child again and to be left in the dark which is what this would do, the only person who would benefit from this is in fact Kaname, the man who had waited 10,000 years for death. Also isn't it cruel on himself if he wanted this that he would allow himself to get close to Yuuki and for them both to develop a love for each other? =/ All seems so very strange D: Just a little thought that's been nagging me XD

    Well, we don't know that still is kaname's current plan (to turn Yuuki human), Kaien was worried that's what he was going to do once, but Kaname doesn't confirm or deny anything. Whcih is why Kaien's not so certain anymore that Kaname intends to leave Yuuki the only one alive.

    the turning yuuki human plan has major faults, whether it would last or be broken in 10 years time, it might drive Yuuki crazy. having 17 years of wiped memories. the alternative of leaving her with memories and yet powerless, she would be bound to get herself mixed up in vampire matters because of Zero at least. and she'd always be a temptation to vampires, like before, with her sweet smelling blood.

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    Post by Shoujo-Zo18 Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:27 pm

    I think that Kaname initially did want to kill all the purebloods and he still does. But he only wanted to spare Yuuki because he loves her and he knows that she is not dangerous. I don't think that's fair to all the other pureblood vampires.... it's like Yuuki is getting special treatment because of who she is and that she was kaname's lover. I think that Kaname will go through with the plan of turning her human, or atleast try to. She might try to stop him , or other people might try to stop him too. I don't think Kaien likes the idea... But if he does turn Yuuki into a human I hope he lets her keep her memories so she won't be driven insane by not knowing the truth about herself...that would be horrible. Or maybe he would just alter some of her memories... make her forget all the time since she became a vampire, or anything having to do with kaname,so that way she wouldn't have to suffer over anything and be the happy Yuuki she once was Smile Or make her forget about anything to do with the world of vampires and vampire hunters. I think Yuuki would be much happier if she could be a normal girl ^^
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    Post by ckaien Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:48 pm

    Not to mention? But if yuukis human.... How can she rule the vampire race as thier Queen? If kaname dies... Shes the lpast of the royal bloodline... Does this mean Kaname s handing leadership of the race ovewr to tphue council entirely? i find that saddening... Because the idea of the vampire race still being a monarchy sets them apart from humanity. Having a councdil makes them a socialist goveernment anid will be no different than the rest of the world. unless Kaname ordains a new king. X.x
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    Post by Shoujo-Zo18 Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:23 am

    Wow... You're really worried about the hierarchy? I honestly hope for Yuuki's happiness in the end. I don't think she could handle the huge responsibility of being the roayl "vampire queen". I really don't care if there's a pureblood in charge or a council in charge or whatever...
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    Post by juliet Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:26 am

    But he only wanted to spare Yuuki because he loves her and he knows that she is not dangerous. I don't think that's fair to all the other pureblood vampires.... it's like Yuuki is getting special treatment because of who she is and that she was kaname's lover. I think Yuuki would be much happier if she could be a normal girl ^^

    That can also be a reason that Yuuki gets a special treatment but I tend to think that right now Yuuki is the one that represents co-existence, or the one that can actually make it true. If she falls, who is going to remain and lead the rest of vampires into a peaceful co-existence?

    There is no one else like her and the script, revolves more and more around co-existence objective to be a priority...in terms of general good and in terms of what Hino tries to promote as the VK spirit and ultimate goal; no the script is not and should not be focused on Yuuki's happiness (like the hapiness of a signle girl is the requested issue when all the world shatters around her).

    Eventually all heroes have to suffer to deliver a final message that surpasses indivinduality.

    But if yuukis human.... How can she rule the vampire race as thier Queen? If kaname dies... Shes the lpast of the royal bloodline... Does this mean Kaname s handing leadership of the race ovewr to tphue council entirely? i find that saddening...

    this used to be an old thought of kaname (to turn Yuuki human). Eventually he shifted his path (as he later said) but not his objectives.

    I believe that Yuuki has to stand up for her role as a powerful Kuran Princess that shall become the co-existence medium herself.

    Being a simple human would be leaving vampires and Yuuki exposed.
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    Post by ckaien Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:25 am

    There is Shiki too though I suppose. Although his blood is lesser he is still the first born of the first born in the royal bloodline. And not to sound technical but justicely speaking.... He deserves the throne just as much as Yuuki. Although as Rima stated. Shiki doesnt want to be involved...... Hes sstill got some duty/responsibility to the ruling of the race and he should be a litttle more helpful.(Duke?) Im glad hes not bitter towards the fact that Haruka was favored as the King over his father, but saddened hes not interested at all.


    To be honest Im a little stranged out Kaname hasnt spoken to him about this factor at all. I remember when young Kaname first took out Rido he had said "It was my miscalculation tht allowed someone like you to be born."

    That statement at first I thought reffered ato the set royal family tradition of marriage. One boy, one girl, brother sisteer to marry and continue ruling but for some odd reason haruka, rido, and juuris parents had three. And kaname had miscalcuated that . he never considered thata to happen. But then to get technical Haruka was then the mistake. Not Rido.


    Now I think this statement is way deeper and refers to somethingr else entirely. And Im not sure what it is.. He meant but getting back to Shiki. As Ridos child he does have dibs to the throne as much as yuuki does and was Kaname considereing Shiki to take Yuukis place ? Or does Kaname not even consider shiki a worthy piece in equation here?
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    Post by shizza24 Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:36 am

    So Kaname plans to kill off all the PBS except for Yuuki and then turn her into a human by sacrificing himself.. That's what I gather from what he said.. It could be wrong because he was as usual very ambiguous with his words..

    But I don't think that would work because then who would lead the remaining vampires? And I don't think that turning one into a human is directly related to wiping off one's memories. There could be a way for Yuuki to be human and still have her memories... But either way as expected of Hino, she surprised me yet again with revealing part of Kaname's wish...
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    Post by sweetsolace Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:37 am

    Trinity wrote:she wouldn't want to be treated like a child again and to be left in the dark which is what this would do, the only person who would benefit from this is in fact Kaname, the man who had waited 10,000 years for death.

    yes, and I suppose the way he will "benefit" after he turns her into a human is to haunt her memories that she was the one responsible for his deathChapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456
    Ok this is ridiculous but surely you're not that desperate to imagine this act of sacrifice can be selfish? I even see it as an insane act, that can only come from someone who's willing to burn everything including himself for his LOVE for her... An act incomparable to any other character willing to die for love. Razz

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:I think that Kaname initially did want to kill all the purebloods and he still does. But he only wanted to spare Yuuki because he loves her and he knows that she is not dangerous. I don't think that's fair to all the other pureblood vampires.... it's like Yuuki is getting special treatment because of who she is and that she was kaname's lover. I think that Kaname will go through with the plan of turning her human, or atleast try to. She might try to stop him , or other people might try to stop him too. I don't think Kaien likes the idea... But if he does turn Yuuki into a human I hope he lets her keep her memories so she won't be driven insane by not knowing the truth about herself...that would be horrible. Or maybe he would just alter some of her memories... make her forget all the time since she became a vampire, or anything having to do with kaname,so that way she wouldn't have to suffer over anything and be the happy Yuuki she once was Smile Or make her forget about anything to do with the world of vampires and vampire hunters. I think Yuuki would be much happier if she could be a normal girl ^^

    Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456 Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456 she has to turn human, otherwise ZEKI have no other way of happening so I can imagine why ZEKIfans are so interested in this idea eventhough it was implied he had abandoned that plan. Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456 it is okay to be desperate.

    Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Wow... You're really worried about the hierarchy? I honestly hope for Yuuki's happiness in the end. I don't think she could handle the huge responsibility of being the roayl "vampire queen". I really don't care if there's a pureblood in charge or a council in charge or whatever...
    hilarious idea. Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456 Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456 when the idea of a ZEKI ending actually lies in REBUILDING this same "DYNASTI OF POWER" aka the "monarchy" thru Yuki vampire queen beside HA President Zero, to make their Coexistence Baby and show it to the world that ONLY TWO races can work together. Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456
    ok but just a thought. Smile

    ckaien wrote:There is Shiki too though I suppose. Although his blood is lesser he is
    still the first born of the first born in the royal bloodline. And not
    to sound technical but justicely speaking.... He deserves the throne
    just as much as Yuuki. Although as Rima stated. Shiki doesnt want to be
    involved...... Hes sstill got some duty/responsibility to the ruling of
    the race and he should be a litttle more helpful.(Duke?) Im glad hes not
    bitter towards the fact that Haruka was favored as the King over his
    father, but saddened hes not interested at all.
    why be interested over the throne when he was an illegitimate son? Rido drove his mother insane. I doubt Senri would want anything to do with his father.
    But its interesting to see why Yuki or Shiki would now be vying for the throne as if it exists, considering all they had prior to that was their night class game. Chapter 75 Translation - Page 2 215456 and isn't it true to the saying that the purer the blood, the more deserving for the throne? as long as Yuki is alive she will sit on that chair, not Shiki the halfblood, whether she likes or not.
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    Post by ckaien Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:45 am

    Sigh* going by eldest rights here . Old King system. Eldest child. Rights to throne. Shikis the technical Rightful heir. But because Rido had to settle fror less his blood is not pure x.x
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    Post by juliet Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:49 am

    shizza24 wrote:So Kaname plans to kill off all the PBS except for Yuuki and then turn her into a human by sacrificing himself.. That's what I gather from what he said.. It could be wrong because he was as usual very ambiguous with his words..

    But I don't think that would work because then who would lead the remaining vampires? And I don't think that turning one into a human is directly related to wiping off one's memories. There could be a way for Yuuki to be human and still have her memories... But either way as expected of Hino, she surprised me yet again with revealing part of Kaname's wish...

    What I concluded is that Kaname had wished in the past and when Yuuki was a child to sacrifice himself in order for her to sustain her human self, and that would make sense at that age, wouldn't it?

    There is no confirmation that Kaname wishes to do the same now (turn Yuuki into a human), actually it is said later on at the script that his path (meaning the that way) has changed but his objective remains the same. And it is also stated by Kaien that Kaname has preffered another way to go.

    Sigh* going by eldest rights here . Old King system. Eldest child. Rights to throne. Shikis the technical Rightful heir. But because Rido had to settle fror less his blood is not pure x.x


    Right, there is no heir now though, since kaname is not a king but a representative or used to be, now Yuuki has that role. If monarch would be back then you must remember that Rido was also banned from the familly tree, so according to that neither he nor his descedants (pure or not) can have a legitimate right, that leaves Yuuki both in blood and title alone.

    (ever though I do not think that vampires follow exactly that kind of though - the titles seem to be more like honors to the certain's familly influence)


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