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    Post by lililovelilica Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:40 pm

    I already put that link on the other topic but it's okay^^
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    Post by caela Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:42 pm

    Oh...Juliet and lililove already posted this in the Raws thread.....aww, I came to late to be first....but I hope you enjoy it anyway cheers
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    Post by juliet Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:56 am

    Mariangie also posted the translation from the LJ here:

    https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t999p30-vampire-knight-full-raws-chapter-77 for whoever can not see it due to not being a member...

    thanks!
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    I'm cleaning and edict here:still processing:http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1186.html
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    Post by mariangie Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:47 am

    juliet wrote:Mariangie also posted the translation from the LJ here:

    https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t999p30-vampire-knight-full-raws-chapter-77 for whoever can not see it due to not being a member...

    thanks!


    This is the text of the translation for the ones without Livejournal account .


    senbyafanatic wrote in vampire_knight,
    @ 2011-11-21 22:06:00


    Chapter 77 English translation
    I have very limited time, so I didn't separate sentences according to panels, sorry for any inconveniences.

    This is NOT a direct Japanese-English translation!

    Night 77 Yuuki and Sara
    Page 1
    (Takuma thinking) That was when Yuuki was still young.

    Takuma: The old man named Cross called and said Yuuki was hurt playing with a sleigh in the mountain. I wonder if she's alright...

    Kaname: ...Yuuki is not here. Looks like he lied to bring me out again.

    Page 2
    Takuma: I see. I'll be relieved if the whole getting hurt thing is just a lie. But that old man named Cross, how mean of him. Is he trying to make fun of you, to get you to come out here to pick him up, or is he testing you...Kaname?

    Kaname: But...there are twins...here?

    Page 3
    Kaname: How come...that twins were born in the hunter's bloodline...

    Takuma: Kaname...?

    (Takuma thinking) I'm afraid that moment was...

    Page 4
    (Continuing fromt the previous page) the beginning of all of his plans.

    Sara: So how about this, Yuuki? If I tell you the bad things that Kaname kept from you, will you take my side?

    Page 5
    Yuuki: ...Kaname's...

    Takuma: Yuuki, can you call it a day and leave now? It certainly feels like that there's about to be bloodshed here, kinda scary.

    Page 6
    Sara: Takuma...

    Takuma: Yes, Sara-sama. I'm sorry.

    Yuuki. Don't worry, Ichijou-senpai. I never intend to cause any bloodshed. It's just I can't ignore this (meaning Kaname) either. Sara, as you said, Kaname is indeed doing the unforgivable right now. Although it saddens me...

    Page 7
    Yuuki: ...You seem to fear that you'll be his next target, because that was what Kaname said. But I can't let Kaname do whatever he wants, no matter what his secret is.

    Sara: ...Are you going to protect me?

    Yuuki: Yes. As the dorm president, I have the right to keep you in this room for protection for now.

    Page 8
    Yuuki: So please do not leave this room no matter what.

    Aidou: It's good that you got out without a scratch. Have you finished talking?

    Yuuki: ...Honestly speaking, I've never trusted Sara completely from the very beginning...

    Aidou: ...She could hear you from the inside.

    Page 9
    Yuuki: It doesn't matter. I'll definitely...I've never really liked her since that night party I snuck into where I met her for the first time...

    (Yuuki thinking) Secret...what's his secret...?

    Page 10
    Sayori: Class president? Isn't the classroom for the next class this way?

    Class president: Just give me a break, Wakaba-san!

    Sayori: You are actually thinking of going to the night class dorm...

    (Sayori thinking) Kageyama-kun's memories about the night class should have been erased like everyone else's...

    Kageyama: So what about you, why did you follow me here?

    Sayori: I also wanted to see my friend there (in the night class).

    Kageyama: You have friends there?

    Sayori: Yes. Although Kiryuu-kun knows a lot about the night class, he is reluctant to share any information.

    Kageyama: Kiryuu-kun..indeed...Recently I saw him with an unfamiliar girl in white uniform...

    Page 11
    Kageyama: I saw them in the morning when I was taking a walk in the "forest of philosophy". I saw Kiryuu pulled away by a girl in white uniform. That white uniform, it's the night class uniform, isn't it? Seeing that uniform, whose color is different from our day class's, that white uniform, and that beautiful long hair... I felt...The moment I saw her, I felt this pain in my chest, as if I was reunited with my first love...

    (Sayori thinking) Kageyama-kun... It was definitely Yuuki that he saw...but could it be that...

    Page 12
    (Sayori thinking) Could it be that his feelings for Ruka-senpai was so strong that his memories weren't completely erased? I didn't know this could happen (the smaller characters in the same panel: I'm a little touched)...perhaps there are others just like him.

    Kageyama: White uniform!

    Page 13
    Kageyama: Um...I'd like to ask you something. You are from the night class, aren't you? Do you know of a long haired girl...

    Sayori: Hold on, Kageyama-kun. Let's get out of here.

    Kageyama: Why?

    Sayori: Don't ask, just go.

    (Sayori thinking) I have a bad feeling about this. Kageyama-kun...

    Kageyama: Ah, they are coming after us.

    Sayori: Hurry!

    Kageyama: Ah!

    Page 14
    Kageyama: The long haired girl...and Kiryuu...

    Sayori: Let's hurry up and leave.

    Vampire: Can I please ask you to step out of the way, respected dorm president?

    Yuuki: This is my job, stay out of it, Zero.

    Zero: Then hurry up and get it over with.

    Page 15
    Vampire: What...

    Yuuki: What's going on here? You were going to go after those two just now. Have you forgotten about our rule?

    Page 16
    Yuuki: You must not harm any of the humans when you are in this academy. If you cannot abide by this rule, why did you even bother to come here at all?

    Page 17
    Yuuki: The reason why you forgot about important things...is it because of this blood tablet?

    Vampire: Ah...ahah...

    Page 18
    Vampire: Give it back to me!

    Yuuki: Just as I suspected...Zero, catch!

    Page 19
    Vampire: Give it back to me!

    Page 20
    Yuuki: Er... (to Zero) Stay out of this, Zero! (to the two vampires) It's alright...

    Page 21
    Yuuki: Calm down...find your old self...and try to remember the reason why you came to this academy...

    Vampire: Ah...

    Page 22
    Vampire A: What have I done?!

    Vampire B: We are ready to accept any punishment!

    (Yuuki thinking) They turned back to normal...? Because of my blood...?

    Yuuki: Hey...It's alright. You'd better return to your rooms now since it's still day time.

    Vampire: But...

    Yuuki: It'll be OK.

    Page 23
    Yuuki: I know what happened was not your fault, so don't mind.

    Page 24
    Yuuki (looking at the dissipating spider): Sara... (to Zero) Thank you for your help just now, Zero.

    Page 25
    Zero: Stay away from me.

    Sara: Haha...it's really laughable, those two.

    Page 26
    Sara: All I need to do is to provoke them a little bit, then there's no knowing whose side they'll take. It'll be a scene worth watching.

    Hanadagi's servant: You are planning to put someone into misery again, just like when you suddenly attacked my master Hanadagi-sama, aren't you?

    Aidou: Kiryuu...

    Zero: If it's OK with you, I'll keep an eye on the pureblood inside in your stead.

    Sara: Indeed that's what I intend to do...

    Page 27
    Sara: What I love to do most...is to make unpleasant things pleasant again...just like what I did to you...(to Zero) Thank you for your good job watching over me...

    Page 28
    Sara: I have something important that I didn't tell Yuuki...

    Maria: Eh?

    Page 29
    (Since only the upper half of the back of the head is visible, I don't know who said this, probably Maria) You said you were going to examine our personal belongings?

    Rima: An armband...

    Page 30
    Yuuki: If you don't want me to go through your stuff thoroughly, then please hand over your tablets. I'll find them, even if you try to put them away. (please note that Yuuki is doing all the talking in this entire page. There is no conversation between Zero and Sara)




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    Post by lililovelilica Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:09 am

    I finally could clean and edict the japanese-english scan
    Chapter 77 translation 4003709726 http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1387.html
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    Post by aiko Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:56 am

    Thanks for posting this!
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    Post by juliet Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:01 am

    lililovelilica wrote:I finally could clean and edict the japanese-english scan
    Chapter 77 translation 4003709726 http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1387.html

    haha love your yumefans account, the raws look wonderfully clean then, I am going to study Chapter 77 translation 2555855207 Chapter 77 translation 1927775417 Chapter 77 translation 1927775417 Chapter 77 translation 1927775417 and come back with questions.

    @Mariangie thanks for reposting should be easy for anyone reading to find this..
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    Post by mariangie Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:50 am

    lililovelilica wrote:I finally could clean and edict the japanese-english scan
    Chapter 77 translation 4003709726 http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1387.html

    Chapter 77 translation 1927775417 Thanks a lot ! sFun_hailbig

    By the way . Where is the double color page translation ? I miss it . I want to know what is written there .

    But a lot of thanks again .


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    Post by rosaever Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:14 pm

    lililovelilica wrote:I finally could clean and edict the japanese-english scan
    Chapter 77 translation 4003709726 http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1387.html

    Thank you so much Chapter 77 translation AddEmoticons09735
    It's a nice beginning of the day for me Very Happy Now I' m going to read
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    Post by nina Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:15 pm

    lililovelilica wrote:I finally could clean and edict the japanese-english scan
    Chapter 77 translation 4003709726 http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1387.html


    Thank you for your efforts lililovelilica! bounce Chapter 77 translation 1927775417

    So no secret nor a person who would appear in front of a shaken Yuuki! Hino is trolling us badly! explosive
    I won’t trust the previews again Evil or Very Mad ...

    Anyway a few thoughts with many reservations till we have the text from the japanese raws…

    1. Kaname was indeed startled from the existence of the Kiryuus’ twins. Now it’s getting more intriguing how this curse started hm … I think perhaps this is the indication of how much exceptional Zero was or would be as a hunter! >>
    Shizuka: “You’ve got good senses… you knew I was here, even before your parents noticed. The twin children of the hunters … it all comes down to your sinful blood …(cap.19)
    So probably his sinful blood - since he managed to be born - is the origin of his extraordinary power … ???

    2. Sara is still trying to take Yuuki on her side by making her lose her trust on Kaname but Yuuki still can’t trust her ofc… (Yuuki can’t get out of her mind the scene from the ball with Kaname and Sara … haha I guess the instinct of a woman in love worked! bounce )
    I also think that Yuuki cleverly used the offered excuse from Kaname - that he would kill Sara next - in order to restrain Sara into her room … If so then Yuuki found a way to kill two birds with one stone > to limit Sara (cuz of her tablets etc) but synchronously without using this as the real reason but her safety! Thus she “escaped” without a scratch! Hanabusa’s fear indicates that they do not take the situation with Sara lightly but for now seems wise not to stir up the things further and more openly …

    3. The major point is that Yuuki’s blood indeed nullified the effects of Sara’s tablets … and Yuuki just figured the power of her blood hm … I wonder if she can keep offering her blood like this cuz for the NC perhaps she can do it but the tablets have been distributed in the town as well!

    Also seems like the tablets made the vampires aggressive?! The two students from the NC were going after Yori and the class president! And certainly they became aggressive when Yuuki took their tablets … I wonder how many side
    effects the tablets can have … affraid

    4. Zero got affected from the scent of Yuuki’s blood thus he asked her not to approach him and ran off. But Sara saw the whole scene and confirms for another time Zero’s thirst … I wonder how Hino/Sara is going to make use all of these scenes … Sara has offered her blood to Zero before so probably she wants Zero to drink it … but is his thirst enough to make him drink from Sara? I doubt it, so she must use something more … As she said she wants to stir up things… affraid
    Not to mention that Sara seems really fearless and pretty cosy at the academy… Chapter 77 translation 1331846141 … except from the fact that she spread her tablets easily to the NC, now she’s having Hanadagi’s servant by a chain leash into her room while outside was Aido and Zero!!!! Chapter 77 translation 3045962615

    5. The scene with Sara and Zero it’s pretty fishy … What she could tell him that brought Zero’s surprise and then laugh????

    Well honestly the chapter from the raws seemed far more promising than what actually was. *sigh* No many info, no revealed secret … just more questions! sFun_transform
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    Post by rosaever Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:58 pm

    nina wrote:
    lililovelilica wrote:I finally could clean and edict the japanese-english scan
    Chapter 77 translation 4003709726 http://yumefans.livejournal.com/1387.html


    Thank you for your efforts lililovelilica! bounce Chapter 77 translation 1927775417

    So no secret nor a person who would appear in front of a shaken Yuuki! Hino is trolling us badly! explosive
    I won’t trust the previews again Evil or Very Mad ...

    Anyway a few thoughts with many reservations till we have the text from the japanese raws…

    1. Kaname was indeed startled from the existence of the Kiryuus’ twins. Now it’s getting more intriguing how this curse started hm … I think perhaps this is the indication of how much exceptional Zero was or would be as a hunter! >>
    Shizuka: “You’ve got good senses… you knew I was here, even before your parents noticed. The twin children of the hunters … it all comes down to your sinful blood …(cap.19)
    So probably his sinful blood - since he managed to be born - is the origin of his extraordinary power … ???

    2. Sara is still trying to take Yuuki on her side by making her lose her trust on Kaname but Yuuki still can’t trust her ofc… (Yuuki can’t get out of her mind the scene from the ball with Kaname and Sara … haha I guess the instinct of a woman in love worked! bounce )
    I also think that Yuuki cleverly used the offered excuse from Kaname - that he would kill Sara next - in order to restrain Sara into her room … If so then Yuuki found a way to kill two birds with one stone > to limit Sara (cuz of her tablets etc) but synchronously without using this as the real reason but her safety! Thus she “escaped” without a scratch! Hanabusa’s fear indicates that they do not take the situation with Sara lightly but for now seems wise not to stir up the things further and more openly …

    3. The major point is that Yuuki’s blood indeed nullified the effects of Sara’s tablets … and Yuuki just figured the power of her blood hm … I wonder if she can keep offering her blood like this cuz for the NC perhaps she can do it but the tablets have been distributed in the town as well!

    Also seems like the tablets made the vampires aggressive?! The two students from the NC were going after Yori and the class president! And certainly they became aggressive when Yuuki took their tablets … I wonder how many side
    effects the tablets can have … affraid

    4. Zero got affected from the scent of Yuuki’s blood thus he asked her not to approach him and ran off. But Sara saw the whole scene and confirms for another time Zero’s thirst … I wonder how Hino/Sara is going to make use all of these scenes … Sara has offered her blood to Zero before so probably she wants Zero to drink it … but is his thirst enough to make him drink from Sara? I doubt it, so she must use something more … As she said she wants to stir up things… affraid
    Not to mention that Sara seems really fearless and pretty cosy at the academy… Chapter 77 translation 1331846141 … except from the fact that she spread her tablets easily to the NC, now she’s having Hanadagi’s servant by a chain leash into her room while outside was Aido and Zero!!!! Chapter 77 translation 3045962615

    5. The scene with Sara and Zero it’s pretty fishy … What she could tell him that brought Zero’s surprise and then laugh????

    Well honestly the chapter from the raws seemed far more promising than what actually was. *sigh* No many info, no revealed secret … just more questions! sFun_transform

    That's the most important question scratch But I'm really curious about meaning of Sara's words: All I need to do is to provoke them a little bit. Then there's no knowing whose side they'll take. Because first: Sara told Zero's the secret, is she thinking Zero will tell it Yuuki or her plan is to keep it from her to the end It will be a scene worth watching and she hopes Yuuki will turn then against Kaname. Could this secret really be connected with Kiryuus family? Like Kaname is somehow guilty of killing Zero's parents ( just thinking I am really have no idea) and that's why she said whose side they ( so Yuuki also) will take?
    We already had the scene when Kaname confessed to Yuuki: I made as much use I possibly could of the closenness between you and Zero.( ch 49). So if Sara thinks some truth can change Yuuki then this secret is really BOOM! or her plan is not so perfect as she thinks Chapter 77 translation 23 or it's conncted with something totally different.
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    I agree about the preview, Hino is trolling us great there...
    my impression of the chapter;

    1. first Yuuki's special powers is coming to light more and more and justifies and kaname's decision to keep her safe at home while she still had no idea of the world that surrounded he, so we see now how Hino justifies Kaname's decision even chapters later.

    Perhaps under the current chapter it becomes more evident Kaname's fear that Yuuki shall sacrifice her life? meaning that was not a simple fear but his prediction about the outcome of this arc?...because he knew Sara's plans and he also knew that he has to go and step on that plan in order to fulfill his OP and this fear he finally tamed in order to open the way for his OP to take place thus all of his later actions?

    2. Sara is about to tell a secret- Takuma interrupts her, so in order to do such a thing, I assume that what Sara is about to said will be very twisted, not the truth, not the reality but her own twisted version of whatever she is hiding there OR Takuma does not want Yuuki to know Kaname's plan yet so that can buy time for kaname to go on with the fulfillment of his plan.

    Meanwhile Yuuki's discovery about the effects of her blood is victorious, in this way perhaps she can release Takuma from Sara's spell and finally earn an insight into Sara's plans.

    3. It seems that Sara realizes that the potential danger to be exterminated is driving closer thus NOW she decides to release this secret. Since she was keeping Takuma from the start, my question is why to release that secret now? Is it because it now matches with the conditions? Meaning if she had wanted just to twist Zero and Yuuki against Kaname she could have done it from the start along with her other lies example that Kaname killed Ouri.

    So why was she waiting that long if that's a secret that does not concern Yuuki alone but also Zero for example? I can not understand how this pureblood thinks, lol...So she gives me the impression that Sara was probably waiting was to dominate the night class and to release her tablets at town> this way now that she releases this secret, no matter what it is, there is not going to be any support for Yuuki in case she needs it in order to stand up for Kaname's side.

    All I need to do is to provoke them a little bit. Then there's no knowing whose side they'll take.

    shows also that she is not completely sure how this secret will effect Yuuki, she gambles there a little. And she also had said that she must earn Yuuki's trust in order to release this secret, another reason perhaps that she delayed there. I wonder if this is the reason that she turns to Zero, as he is far more "objective" in terms of Kaname and since Yuuki is immediately interfered (as representative of the peace) Zero will have to tell her. Also the fact that Sara is approaching Zero while he is having a difficult phase with a blood is it a coincidence? or she chooses the moment where she can mostly affect him and get to him thus be more vulnerable?

    Could this secret really be connected with Kiryuus family? Like Kaname is somehow guilty of killing Zero's parents ( just thinking I am really have no idea) and that's why she said whose side they ( so Yuuki also) will take?

    Its all up to theory, but would Zero smirk like that? plus Takuma thinks about how Kaname's plan started in general and it started from the moment that he heard about the twins- we do not know much about the curse and what it can mean to vampires. It looks that this blood is extraordinary and Kaname perhaps saw there a chance to kill Rido and get rid of him once and for all and also to restore balance among vampires and hunters.

    But my point is that Takuma thinks of the beginning (perhaps then also Kaname cancelled his intention to make Yuuki human?), not the incident of the death of Zero's parents, that is very specific and its later in time. Meaning what Takuma seems to reflect on by hearing Sara to speak of kaname's secret to Yuuki is unrelated to Zero as an incident, related to him only in respects of time. I think with all reservation that Hino troll us another time there.

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    Post by Yuuki Kuran Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:23 pm

    I personally don't think Sara's biggest concern is to get both of them on her side, I think she may be trying to turn Zero and Yuuki against each other, perhaps. Judging by Zero's smirk it wasn't anything that upset him. My guess is it's something Zero will agree with and Yuuki will not, thus turning them against each other for Sara's amusement/plan.

    May it be Kaname planning to sacrifice himself for Yuuki's sake, Kaname doing all the killing for Yuuki's sake, anything that Yuuki wouldn't agree with. Creating conflict between Yuuki and Zero could give Sara an opening as well.
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    Post by juliet Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:38 pm

    Yuuki Kuran wrote:I personally don't think Sara's biggest concern is to get both of them on her side, I think she may be trying to turn Zero and Yuuki against each other, perhaps. Judging by Zero's smirk it wasn't anything that upset him. My guess is it's something Zero will agree with and Yuuki will not, thus turning them against each other for Sara's amusement/plan.

    May it be Kaname planning to sacrifice himself for Yuuki's sake, Kaname doing all the killing for Yuuki's sake, anything that Yuuki wouldn't agree with. Creating conflict between Yuuki and Zero could give Sara an opening as well.

    could be because they way that Sara expresses it, she is unsure about the outcome (which sides they will take) but she seems to have amusement drawn out of it, so it actually fits her whatever the result.

    Yuuki and Kaname against Zero or Zero and Yuuki against Kaname, the main thing is that she is heading to create a conflict there...


    By the way, I miss Kaname, I want the plot to move forward, Hino is really dragging the issue too much... explosive

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    Post by Yuuki Kuran Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:01 am

    juliet wrote:
    Yuuki Kuran wrote:I personally don't think Sara's biggest concern is to get both of them on her side, I think she may be trying to turn Zero and Yuuki against each other, perhaps. Judging by Zero's smirk it wasn't anything that upset him. My guess is it's something Zero will agree with and Yuuki will not, thus turning them against each other for Sara's amusement/plan.

    May it be Kaname planning to sacrifice himself for Yuuki's sake, Kaname doing all the killing for Yuuki's sake, anything that Yuuki wouldn't agree with. Creating conflict between Yuuki and Zero could give Sara an opening as well.

    could be because they way that Sara expresses it, she is unsure about the outcome (which sides they will take) but she seems to have amusement drawn out of it, so it actually fits her whatever the result.

    Yuuki and Kaname against Zero or Zero and Yuuki against Kaname, the main thing is that she is heading to create a conflict there...


    By the way, I miss Kaname, I want the plot to move forward, Hino is really dragging the issue too much... explosive


    I personally hope Yuuki ends up taking Kaname's side. I think it would be nice for her character to find him and stand up to him so he'd involve her for once and not make her sit at the sidelines with no knowledge for her own safety. He worries about her, but she worries about him too and should let him know that.
    It could be possible character development for the both of them.

    I agree. I have to say when I saw the translations I frowned. I really was expecting something to come out of this chapter, some light to be shed even if it was just a little, but instead we got nothing at all. Just Sara saying she know's a secret, Yuuki finding out the obvious Kuran blood secret we all already knew, and Sara telling Zero the secret off panel.
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    Post by gentle yuuki Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:11 pm

    hi everybody .. im new here Smile
    i was mad that kaname didnt appear in this chapter .. im mean we have been waiting for a long time now ..and moreover sara didnt tell yuuki the secret ..we have to wait until zero tells us Crying or Very sad
    and im very afraid of yuuki knowing the power of her blood
    because she might try to help other vampires which leads to her sacrifising herself scratch

    I agree. I have to say when I saw the translations I frowned. I really was expecting something to come out of this chapter, some light to be shed even if it was just a little, but instead we got nothing at all. Just Sara saying she know's a secret, Yuuki finding out the obvious Kuran blood secret we all already knew, and Sara telling Zero the secret off panel.
    same as you Sad
    and i think sara doesnt care about which side zero or yuuki will take ..she is just playing with them in oreder to make them go against each other .. i think zero will stand against kaname but yuuki won`t
    and this way there will be a conflict just like you guys said before scratch
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    Post by caela Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:33 pm

    Yuuki Kuran wrote:
    juliet wrote:
    Yuuki Kuran wrote:I personally don't think Sara's biggest concern is to get both of them on her side, I think she may be trying to turn Zero and Yuuki against each other, perhaps. Judging by Zero's smirk it wasn't anything that upset him. My guess is it's something Zero will agree with and Yuuki will not, thus turning them against each other for Sara's amusement/plan.

    May it be Kaname planning to sacrifice himself for Yuuki's sake, Kaname doing all the killing for Yuuki's sake, anything that Yuuki wouldn't agree with. Creating conflict between Yuuki and Zero could give Sara an opening as well.

    could be because they way that Sara expresses it, she is unsure about the outcome (which sides they will take) but she seems to have amusement drawn out of it, so it actually fits her whatever the result.

    Yuuki and Kaname against Zero or Zero and Yuuki against Kaname, the main thing is that she is heading to create a conflict there...


    By the way, I miss Kaname, I want the plot to move forward, Hino is really dragging the issue too much... explosive


    I personally hope Yuuki ends up taking Kaname's side. I think it would be nice for her character to find him and stand up to him so he'd involve her for once and not make her sit at the sidelines with no knowledge for her own safety. He worries about her, but she worries about him too and should let him know that.
    It could be possible character development for the both of them.

    I agree. I have to say when I saw the translations I frowned. I really was expecting something to come out of this chapter, some light to be shed even if it was just a little, but instead we got nothing at all. Just Sara saying she know's a secret, Yuuki finding out the obvious Kuran blood secret we all already knew, and Sara telling Zero the secret off panel.

    LOL!...I have to say that I miss Kaname too...without him around, the plot barely moves....

    Not that I am good at guessing but....I'll agree with roasever that the secret Sara told Zero is about his parents' deaths and Kaname's involvement...Zero would be surprised at that...Zero smirked/laughed because he knows he can't trust Sara's words and Zero is not going to go after Kaname....Zero wants Kaname to kill all purebloods first (chapter 74/75)...so....plot really did not move....again.....

    ...unless Sara told Zero more than that "secret"....

    (Did someone say this manga is ending around chapter 100? well....I don't see it moving fast enough to finish then....I might be old when this manga is done rofl Sad )
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    Post by MGM Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:07 pm

    Thanks alot for your hard work lililovelilica cheers

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    That's the most important question scratch But I'm really curious about meaning of Sara's words: All I need to do is to provoke them a little bit. Then there's no knowing whose side they'll take. Because first: Sara told Zero's the secret, is she thinking Zero will tell it Yuuki or her plan is to keep it from her to the end It will be a scene worth watching and she hopes Yuuki will turn then against Kaname. Could this secret really be connected with Kiryuus family? Like Kaname is somehow guilty of killing Zero's parents ( just thinking I am really have no idea) and that's why she said whose side they ( so Yuuki also) will take?
    We already had the scene when Kaname confessed to Yuuki: I made as much use I possibly could of the closenness between you and Zero.( ch 49). So if Sara thinks some truth can change Yuuki then this secret is really BOOM! or her plan is not so perfect as she thinks Chapter 77 translation 23 or it's conncted with something totally different.

    I dont think Sara can say that to use Zero because Zero will know that Sara is lying. Zero witness with his own eyes Sizhuka (in the first arch) killed Zero's parents. And that night also Sizhuka bite Zero and the bite cause him to turn into vampire. This is also the reason why Zero hates vampires and purebloods the most.
    Here is the quote from the old chapters (about 2 years ago), indeed a very old chapter:
    http://www.mangareader.net/104-2127-20/vampire-knight/chapter-19.html
    (please read at least page 20 - 25)

    The one who Sizhuka's lover (a human) on the hunters list is Rido (the main villain in the first arch); Rido is also Sizhuka's fiance. Kiriyu's parents is very unfortunate to be assigned on that tasks, because once they killed her lover fiance; Sizhuka come to kill them for revenge. But still Sizhuka wants to kill the main villain Rido (her own fiance) because she knows he is the one behind it all - http://www.mangareader.net/104-2166-17/vampire-knight/chapter-40.html. But Sizhuka needs to gain more power to attack Rido because if not it will be even. That is why Sizhuka come to the academy in the first place; her plan is to consume Kaname to gain his power - http://www.mangareader.net/104-2130-8/vampire-knight/chapter-20.html and http://www.mangareader.net/104-2130-10/vampire-knight/chapter-20.html. But Kaname knows this and he already made a plan to counteract Sizhuka and then Rido. Because Kaname also want to defeat Rido; and he need to gain more power. That is why he said to Sizhuka on her dying time "I will destroy the one that you hate the most. Your death will not be in vain" vol5 ch20.

    *err.. the translation in the book is much clearer than some of the scanlation.. some scanlation is very good but some is just average.. but still I value all the scanlator hard effort *bows*

    @ Juliet-san

    Hi Juliet-san *huggles*... how are you? I just come drop by for the new chapter... I cant help but comment on this new chapter ^^" .... something I am so worried so long ago, since the first time I see... err... Kaname's first attachment in the past? The lady who sacrifice herself... after seeing her for the first time in this page http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-22/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html - I cant help but stop and think ... OMG ... she .. really .. looks .. like .... Zero @@
    (and I have been guessing for months that she will looks like Yuuki .. or more precisely.. Yuuki looks a lot like her).. I mean long straight light coloured hair (just like Zero) and elongated and calm eyes.. just like Zero @@ .... Shocked ... and in this new chapter Kaname look at the Kiriyu twins for the first time with such face and says something like "how come that twins were born in the hunter bloodline" (the twins really looks so cute and sweet .. and reminds me of that lady a lot!)....maybe what Sara say to Zero is "It is said that the lady who gave power to hunters will reincarante in the first hunter twin born alive .. and the lady was actually Kaname first love" .. and thats why Zero gave such face on the last page like "this is just a bad bad joke.. I really have to kill all the purebloods and then kill myself" rofl ........ I mean thats gonna be a bad joke if in the end turns out that Kiriyus twin is the reincarnated of that Pureblood lady of Kaname first love jocolor

    neee.... I am just kidding ... cant help ... Very Happy

    But I think there will be more secret, I actually can accept if that lady is Kaname's wife. But problem is, he and she never said so nor everyone else in manga. (Yuuki did call her "our mother" but Kaname never reply if it is true or not). Besides, Kurans all got dark curly hair, like Kaname. If the lady is their mother, why not even a single one of them got light straight hair like her? And Kaname feels the first sign of attachment that she is precious to him on the day the lady die (just before she left) http://www.mangareader.net/104-57201-12/vampire-knight/chapter-64.html. Apparently doesnt that suggest they havent start anything yet? scratch


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    @ Juliet-san

    Hi Juliet-san *huggles*... how are you? I just come drop by for the new chapter... I cant help but comment on this new chapter ^^" .... something I am so worried so long ago, since the first time I see... err... Kaname's first attachment in the past? The lady who sacrifice herself... after seeing her for the first time in this page http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-22/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html - I cant help but stop and think ... OMG ... she .. really .. looks .. like .... Zero @@
    (and I have been guessing for months that she will looks like Yuuki .. or more precisely.. Yuuki looks a lot like her).. I mean long straight light coloured hair (just like Zero) and elongated and calm eyes.. just like Zero @@ .... Shocked ... and in this new chapter Kaname look at the Kiriyu twins for the first time with such face and says something like "how come that twins were born in the hunter bloodline" (the twins really looks so cute and sweet .. and reminds me of that lady a lot!)....maybe what Sara say to Zero is "It is said that the lady who gave power to hunters will reincarante in the first hunter twin born alive .. and the lady was actually Kaname first love" .. and thats why Zero gave such face on the last page like "this is just a bad bad joke.. I really have to kill all the purebloods and then kill myself" rofl ........ I mean thats gonna be a bad joke if in the end turns out that Kiriyus twin is the reincarnated of that Pureblood lady of Kaname first love jocolor

    neee.... I am just kidding ... cant help ... Very Happy


    I think there´s something about what you saying. Why would she look like Zero and others from his family. hmms... scratch confused There´s something going on here scratch And it can only be something about the twin curse scratch I think the twin curse is the reason why the hunters hates the vampires. I don´t think that the hunters hated the purebloods from the start. Because the hunters did said once that they were grateful to the woman. Also some of the vampires were they saivours. If not for them the human race would have died. I think the vampires and hunters would have coperated today if
    it´s not was for twin curse. Can you remember when it was told that Zero acecstors had eatet a vampire? I think it means that they actually eatet a vampire for themself. It´s like that I quees.Maybe the vampire they eatet was someone important to Kaname. And maybe it was Kaname who cast the twin curse scratch Maybe he was out of anger and then did cast the spell at them? scratch Maybe it´s because they had a little of the hodded lady´s blood that they look like her scratch I am confused here scratch confused
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    VampireCythia wrote:
    MGM wrote:


    @ Juliet-san

    Hi Juliet-san *huggles*... how are you? I just come drop by for the new chapter... I cant help but comment on this new chapter ^^" .... something I am so worried so long ago, since the first time I see... err... Kaname's first attachment in the past? The lady who sacrifice herself... after seeing her for the first time in this page http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-22/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html - I cant help but stop and think ... OMG ... she .. really .. looks .. like .... Zero @@
    (and I have been guessing for months that she will looks like Yuuki .. or more precisely.. Yuuki looks a lot like her).. I mean long straight light coloured hair (just like Zero) and elongated and calm eyes.. just like Zero @@ .... Shocked ... and in this new chapter Kaname look at the Kiriyu twins for the first time with such face and says something like "how come that twins were born in the hunter bloodline" (the twins really looks so cute and sweet .. and reminds me of that lady a lot!)....maybe what Sara say to Zero is "It is said that the lady who gave power to hunters will reincarante in the first hunter twin born alive .. and the lady was actually Kaname first love" .. and thats why Zero gave such face on the last page like "this is just a bad bad joke.. I really have to kill all the purebloods and then kill myself" rofl ........ I mean thats gonna be a bad joke if in the end turns out that Kiriyus twin is the reincarnated of that Pureblood lady of Kaname first love jocolor

    neee.... I am just kidding ... cant help ... Very Happy


    I think there´s something about what you saying. Why would she look like Zero and others from his family. hmms... scratch confused There´s something going on here scratch And it can only be something about the twin curse scratch I think the twin curse is the reason why the hunters hates the vampires. I don´t think that the hunters hated the purebloods from the start. Because the hunters did said once that they were grateful to the woman. Also some of the vampires were they saivours. If not for them the human race would have died. I think the vampires and hunters would have coperated today if
    it´s not was for twin curse. Can you remember when it was told that Zero acecstors had eatet a vampire? I think it means that they actually eatet a vampire for themself. It´s like that I quees.Maybe the vampire they eatet was someone important to Kaname. And maybe it was Kaname who cast the twin curse scratch Maybe he was out of anger and then did cast the spell at them? scratch Maybe it´s because they had a little of the hodded lady´s blood that they look like her scratch I am confused here scratch confused

    I think the story was that the hunters drank a certain female pure blood's blood and for that they where cursed. The cure of the twins. I could be wrong.
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    Post by gentle yuuki Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:49 pm

    quote : "(Yuuki did call her "our mother" but Kaname never reply if it is true or not). "


    she is not his wife for many reasons ..and also when yuuki talked about "our mother " she was talking about juuri not that women
    and also kaname said it was only "small attachement"
    there is another women ..the mother of the kuran
    that is the biggest secret so far scratch
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    Post by theangelgirl1992 Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:53 pm

    gentle yuuki wrote:
    (Yuuki did call her "our mother" but Kaname never reply if it is true or not).

    she is not his wife for many reasons ..and also when yuuki talked about "our mother " she was talking about juuri no that women
    and also kaname said it was only "small attachement"
    there is another women ..the mother of the kuran
    that is the biggest secret so far scratch
    I agree Kaname IS the ancestor of the Kuran Clan he had to start a family with a lady. Personally I think that his wife/queen blood has been devoured by the hunters and because that the hunters where cursed with curse of the twins. Just an assumption of course Smile . There is a big mystery on Kaname's wife/queen/mother of the Kuran Clan and how the kurancest started, and Matsuri is keeping it a mystery so that when she tells us it will be a big shocker. Sneaky and even though it makes me restless I am also loving it Very Happy


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    Post by gentle yuuki Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:02 pm

    I agree Kaname IS the ancestor of the Kuran Clan he had to start a family with a lady. Personally I think that his wife/queen blood has been devoured by the hunters and because that the hunters where cursed with curse of the twins. Just an assumption of course Smile . There is a big mystery on Kaname's wife/queen/mother of the Kuran Clan and how the kurancest started, and Matsuri is keeping it a mystery so that when she tells us it will be a big shocker. Sneaky and even though it makes me restless I am also loving it Very Happy


    if hino is keeping so much mystery around it then it must have something to do with yuuki ..and thats bring us back to the hooded women theory Razz

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