Is Zero on Sara's Side?

First topic message reminder :

In chapter 78, according to chinese raws:

>>> sara called zero a weapon, and everything is okay if she will get her weapon

>>>kaien asked zero who spread the blood tablets in cross acedemy, a flashback of sara went through his mind but he kept silent.

>>>Moreover he said to kaien they should have purebloods by themself who can be advantageous to them and he - zero - likes the idea to have purebloods inside cross academy.

>>>Moreover, zero told yuuki he won't let her do anything to sara.

OOops Nina seems like I still hadn't answered yet....sorry
I'll keep it short since we'll have a new chapter soon.

You're talking about the extreme measures he took. But he didn't do anthing more than Yuuki IMO. Neither of them will let Sara die and neither of them are giving any information (Yuuki didn't show up to talk too Kaien, maybe this does have it's reasons?). You wonder why he said such things to Yuuki while she didn't express any intent to kill Sara.....But he doesnt seem to know that. He says to her (something like it)'You want to kill sara shirabuki ...' upon finding her with the servant girl. She does not deny his words (probably to occupied with the rest he's saying, can't blame her) so I'm gussing he doesnt know about her promise towards Sara He wasn't there at the moment either). Considering that, his measures don't seem so extreme anymore... It's basically what Yuuki has done. He's more violent (toward the servant girl) but that girl clearly didn't behave the same towards him and Yuuki....and Yuuki would never react violent anyways...so here he would ofcourse react worse than hers. Here I still see Zero and Yuuki on the same side (Im not talking about next chapter, since Yuuki's reaction might change a lot, but here they have basically the same polan ( about Sara at least, not talking about Kaname ofcourse....that plan would be deifferent )

He didn't really say anything about her stopping K, did he? He only talked about the tainted part..... So he's not against her on this matter.


I don't really get why You're showing his words about Kaname, saying he means more to this than just protect Sara ...I though we agreed this was an emotional reaction (that follows without intentions)??? Maybe I misunderstood you earlier? I don't really get what you mean, it seems kinda contradicting to me..


The other words you showed. Look at the context. He's talkin about it to Kaien...Then says he asks about it because there's a pb (touma) in the headquarters. He's asking what Kaien is planning with Touma as he explains himself.

About Kaien. Ofcourse Zero is acting irrational. We've seen this state his was in last chapter......I know that Kaien would not hide such a fact, but seeing all zero's reeactions this chapter I don't think he knows who to trust anymore....(but I already mentioned this before.) And it's not contradicting ....if it were Yagari, I think Zero trusts Yagari and that's why he might think Yagari wouldve already told him.....


Well people plan things out for the future, right? If Kaname had sth to do with his family's death it could have to with some benefit for the future.....He let Zero live for the sake of protecting Yuuki in the future.....If all of this is a part of the same plan (Kaname mentioned he's had his plans for a long time) parts of the future in that plan might reveal the 'why' in the past. Maybe an intention to do something for some benefit in the future...

SassyKnight wrote:
Firstly, Ichiru led Shizuka to his home (stated in the Fanbook) and even though he said "Did you suffer having your fate twisted by Shizuka Sama?" It doesn't mean that he DID ask Shizuka turn Zero, because it didn't even say that...Well I might be wrong but that's just how I see it..

I agree that it wasn't Ichiru. The fanbook says that Shizuka turned Zero because she thought he resembled her lover and Ichiru resembled herself, which is why she kept him by her side. Shizuka also stated that she turned Zero to punish his parents (flashback) and in the side story, it states she recognised his nature like her lover.

Knightmare wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:
Firstly, Ichiru led Shizuka to his home (stated in the Fanbook) and even though he said "Did you suffer having your fate twisted by Shizuka Sama?" It doesn't mean that he DID ask Shizuka turn Zero, because it didn't even say that...Well I might be wrong but that's just how I see it..

I agree that it wasn't Ichiru. The fanbook says that Shizuka turned Zero because she thought he resembled her lover and Ichiru resembled herself, which is why she kept him by her side. Shizuka also stated that she turned Zero to punish his parents (flashback) and in the side story, it states she recognised his nature like her lover.

I think that's a lie
Zero's not like Shizuka's past love...Maybe she just did it for revenge...and because she met Ichiru first and saw that it wasn't needed to bite him like Zero?

lililovelilica wrote:

knightmare wrote:
I agree that it wasn't Ichiru. The fanbook says that Shizuka turned Zero because she thought he resembled her lover and Ichiru resembled herself, which is why she kept him by her side. Shizuka also stated that she turned Zero to punish his parents (flashback) and in the side story, it states she recognised his nature like her lover.

I think that's a lie
Zero's not like Shizuka's past love...Maybe she just did it for revenge...and because she met Ichiru first and saw that it wasn't needed to bite him like Zero?

Um no one knows what he was like except for Shizuka who made the claim. its because she recognises their refusal to obey her. her lover still resented her, even though she was his master etc. Shizuka said Zero's eyes were the same as her lovers. Shizuka knew Zero would be a challenge.

shizuka met the twins at the same time, Zero recognised her first as a vampire, later shizuka also realised he was stronger than his parents. ichiru continued visiting her after that initial meeting.

Is Zero on Sara's side....? Hm, nope i just think he wants to draw information for her... But Kaname is on her side! Actually it's more like she's on his side since he probably commissioned her to help.... If you read the latest chapter it was mentioned that Sara has been helping him kill purebloods....but now he's going to kill her. Is that how you treat your accomplices Kaname? I feel sorry for whatever becomes of Kain and Ruka!! D:

I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

iiXerxes wrote:I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

Right because of his main goal he can´t be completely on the side of a pureblood because in the end he has to kill the pureblood too...of course he has another goal by being on her side for some time, he doesn´t need to be completely loyal to her, I don´t think Zero could be loyal to sara (just to Yuuki)...
we´ll see but I don´t like the idea of seing one if my hot boys on Sara´s evil side

Katherine wrote:Right because of his main goal he can´t be completely on the side of a pureblood because in the end he has to kill the pureblood too...of course he has another goal by being on her side for some time, he doesn´t need to be completely loyal to her, I don´t think Zero could be loyal to sara (just to Yuuki)...
we´ll see but I don´t like the idea of seing one if my hot boys on Sara´s evil side

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

iiXerxes wrote:

Katherine wrote:Right because of his main goal he can´t be completely on the side of a pureblood because in the end he has to kill the pureblood too...of course he has another goal by being on her side for some time, he doesn´t need to be completely loyal to her, I don´t think Zero could be loyal to sara (just to Yuuki)...
we´ll see but I don´t like the idea of seing one if my hot boys on Sara´s evil side

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

I think Zero is a character who is often controlled by his emotions, even tough he always tries to not show it so much...Zero can´t be controlled by someone like Sara completely. She can only give him some impulse, for example by telling him a dark secret about kaname she knows that he reacts on it in a specific way, but she can´t controll what he tries to do when he f.e. meets Kaname...I think we have to admit that Zero has a strong side and I hope that he is the only one who influences his movements (no one else...I dont want to see Kaname influencing or controlling Zero too although I´m a Yume...everyone should have his/her own free will)

Zero will show his real intentions soon...the time has come to show what the characters really want to do

I agree with Katherine.
Zero is someone too independent to let himself being influenced by other person completly. On the other hand he was often taken out by his emotions, they were his impulse to act. Lately, we know he is able already to think emotionless, for example when he took part in the ball organised by Kaname.
Now it is easier to him to pretend he balives Sara. He can be just observator who look at what happening before his eyes and not interefere when it is according to his goal. Zero has no reasons to stop Kaname now when he is eliminating purebloods. In addition, Zero can look passively on Kaname following the path of his own destruction.
I must add I'm not criticize Zero's behaviour. I think he act wisely and he has developped much from the beginning.

Zero had been told to left Kaname alone to continue whatever plans he had . To only continue to watch Yuuki . This are direct orders from the Vampire Hunter's Association . Specially told by Yagari ( the real Hunter's President by action ) to Zero .

But Zero hates Kaname with all his heart . Worse now after what Sara told him . He even tried to shot a shadow of Kaname knowing this . Losing control of himself for some seconds . Requiring Yuuki to calm him out . So don't expect Zero to follow the Hunter's instructions . If Zero believes he is working alone to kill Kaname . He is in reality working in favor of Sara . So he got trapped in Sara's web because of his impulsivity .

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hi i think that he should not stay on her side

chantelle123457 wrote: hi i think that he should not stay on her side

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no, zero is not her weapon. didn't she call zero kaname's weapon anyway? zero make life simple and just get the hell out of there.

no idea whats going on but have to wait for chap 81 so i can get it on my ipod

Well ! Now there is enough proof for saying Zero is now at Sara's side as her White Vampire Knight .

Sara's was smart enough to make Zero to play with her team .

If you know a bit about Zero's personality . He is not the kind of guy who liked to be boss around . He likes to believe his choices are his own . Nor wanted to be manipulated .
Zero is very stubborn . A loner who liked to play alone and not in a team . His worst weakness / best strenght are his love for Yuuki

The thing is Zero's character is easier to read than he would like to believe . This is what makes him difficult to manipulate . But when the people who want to use him did cover his weakness ; Zero felt hard .

Sara had get to believe Zero is the one who is making all his choices . But he is only doing what Sara planned for him since the start .

The part of Zero drinking from Sara is easy to explain . This is basically what the story told : Zero wants to kill Kaname because of his hate . Zero's desire of vengance from what he see as Kaname destroying his whole world . Zero needs blood . He is not drinking blood tablets after meeting Yuuki again in the Cross Academy . He needs more power to fight Kaname . Sara has offered her blood to him before .

The only weird thing is why Zero decided to drink Sara's blood in front of the hunter's . Is he expecting to fight Kaname in mere minutes ? Would Zero wants hunters to chose if they going to turn to his side or not ?

For me it would not be rare if Zero is trying to see who is with him and who is against him with the public Sara's bite . Testing loyalties from the vampires hunters . To get if they accept his leadership in the next war or not .

I don't think Sara would give enough information with her blood about herself for Zero discovering being played by her .

A problem here will be : as Zero accepted Sara's blood . Could he get some harmful side effect from her ? Kaname did said her blood was bad . After all she is a " poisonous spider " .

Well yes, they have made a deal, that zero will hide her at the association and she will help him to kill Kaname since they share a common enemy. Wasn't that obvious from the start? o.O And since Zero drank her blood it looks like her way of helping is to make him stronger by drinking her blood, since she is a pureblood. But I wonder what Kaname meant when he said her blood was tainted. . . she is a pureblood right? Also i found interesting the rumour that the hunters have been spreading.... that it'd be better to let Kaname & Sara kill each other... Well that won't happen if Sara's in the Hunter's association safe and sound o.O I imagine she will sit back and watch with her creepy little spiders as Zero fights Kaname... and then if Kaname's weakened or Zero can no longer fight, then Sara will step in to finish him. Or... she'll jut let her faithful servants like Ichijou and the girls help zero.... I think she'd only help as a last resort.

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well yes, they have made a deal, that zero will hide her at the association and she will help him to kill Kaname since they share a common enemy. Wasn't that obvious from the start? o.O

Orly??? It was so obvious from the start?? Then who wrote the beneath posts???>>>

SassyKnight wrote: I don't think he is on her side exactly, I believe he wants her alive for more information about his family's death 5 years ago. Zero has a reason to act that way and I think he's just desperate for answers

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote: I don't think Zero is really "on Sara's side"

He did tell yuuki to leave Sara alone, but my guess is he probably thinks he can get more information out of her.

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1086p20-is-zero-on-sara-s-side

Shoujo-Zo-18 wrote: Is Zero on Sara's side....? Hm, nope i just think he wants to draw information for her... [u]But Kaname is on her side! Actually it's more like she's on his side since he probably commissioned her to help[/b].... If you read the latest chapter it was mentioned that Sara has been helping him kill purebloods....but now he's going to kill her. Is that how you treat your accomplices Kaname? I feel sorry for whatever becomes of Kain and Ruka!! D:

iiXerxes wrote: I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1086p30-is-zero-on-sara-s-side

Zero is not on Sara's side. I think he's just using Sara for her power for his revenge on Kaname. I think that he also want answers from her. Zero is smart; He would never side with a Pureblood (Well except Yuki) XD

SassyKnight wrote:Zero is not on Sara's side. I think he's just using Sara for her power for his revenge on Kaname. I think that he also want answers from her. Zero is smart; He would never side with a Pureblood (Well except Yuki) XD

But that is the Sara's plan for Zero.She use his hatred (also his weakness) to make Zero do what she want: Kill Kaname.

Well they are both using each other. I think that there will be a Zero and Kaname battle in the next chapter (YES) XD And Yuki will have to make her decision. To me, YuMe seems dead, and yes I know that they had a small "I miss you" reaction this chapter, but it's not enough to mend their relationship. IMO I think that Yuki wi=on't stand by and left Kaname do what he wants now (As Yuki had stated) And start to realise her feelings for Zero.

nina wrote:

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well yes, they have made a deal, that zero will hide her at the association and she will help him to kill Kaname since they share a common enemy. Wasn't that obvious from the start? o.O

Orly??? It was so obvious from the start?? Then who wrote the beneath posts???>>>

SassyKnight wrote: I don't think he is on her side exactly, I believe he wants her alive for more information about his family's death 5 years ago. Zero has a reason to act that way and I think he's just desperate for answers

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote: I don't think Zero is really "on Sara's side"

He did tell yuuki to leave Sara alone, but my guess is he probably thinks he can get more information out of her.

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1086p20-is-zero-on-sara-s-side

Shoujo-Zo-18 wrote: Is Zero on Sara's side....? Hm, nope i just think he wants to draw information for her... [u]But Kaname is on her side! Actually it's more like she's on his side since he probably commissioned her to help[/b].... If you read the latest chapter it was mentioned that Sara has been helping him kill purebloods....but now he's going to kill her. Is that how you treat your accomplices Kaname? I feel sorry for whatever becomes of Kain and Ruka!! D:

iiXerxes wrote: I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1086p30-is-zero-on-sara-s-side

Yes, you are completely right. Opinions change with new information and new chapters. I believe when I said that, Zero had spoken with Sara but I wasn't sure of his intentions yet. What i meant was obvious was that they share a common enemy, Kaname... Since Zero has always hated Kaname and Sara said she wants to defeat Kaname and become the Pureblood Queen. I think it was chapter 80 where Zero finally agreed on a deal with Sara, thus making them a team. I don't think chapter 80 was out yet when Zero first spoke with Sara. And it's obvious now that Kaname's not her ally since he wants to kill her and she wants to kill him. What are you trying to prove? That I had a different opinion in the past? Yes, yes I did. I'm not arguing that point because there is no rule that says I can't change my opinions with more information. As for the other quotes I don't believe those are mine.

Rikana-hime wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:Zero is not on Sara's side. I think he's just using Sara for her power for his revenge on Kaname. I think that he also want answers from her. Zero is smart; He would never side with a Pureblood (Well except Yuki) XD

But that is the Sara's plan for Zero.She use his hatred (also his weakness) to make Zero do what she want: Kill Kaname.

Now there's no more doubt about the relation between Sara and Zero .
Zero is drinking Sara's blood in a sexy way . Don't panic . They're are not lovers . YET ! Takuma runs to kill Zero !

Just a dumb joke !

In a little more serious rant . ( Not much ! )

Now everybody is saying they expect Zero bites Sara . As Zero wants to get stronger for killing Kaname . And seeing their siding together in a benefical symbiotic patnership . Where Zero has control of his acts and was not manipulated by Sara .

Easy to say the dog is male after lifting it and check the balls .

Another dumb joke !

I remember being the one who mentioned Zero's siding with Sara way back ( around chapter 58 ) .Including the bite part . Many dismissed my idea as crazy rants .

For once I like to quote the post in this same page :

Do you think Zero continue to be on Sara's side?
Yes!!!!!![ 26 ] [21%] .

No.[ 65 ] [53%] .

Not sure...[ 30 ] [24%] .

Only a 21 % of people believes Zero and Sara were at the same side .

But this unpopular idea is CANON NOW .

The problem of Zero siding Sara is he believes he is control of the situation . That he made his own choices . But Sara uses Zero in the way she wanted . Because Sara knew Zero was impetous , stubborn and a risk - taker . A loner . Hated Kanaem the most . And in love with Yuuki .

I think that Zero cannot be controlled easily. For one he has the power of FIVE Purebloods inside him, PLUS Ichiru's blood. So he is the strongest Hunter, along with Purebloods Blood...I doubt he can be easily controlled holding that much power.

Zero is only drinking Sara's blood for two reasons: POWER and REVENGE. Revenge is all that he wants right now. Power to fight against Kaname to avenge his family. That's all he wants... I feel sorry for the guy...

Zero is just using Sara, so I doubt that he will continue being on her side...Actually he was NEVER on her side... Just using her.

SassyKnight wrote:I think that Zero cannot be controlled easily. For one he has the power of FIVE Purebloods inside him, PLUS Ichiru's blood. So he is the strongest Hunter, along with Purebloods Blood...I doubt he can be easily controlled holding that much power.

Zero is only drinking Sara's blood for two reasons: POWER and REVENGE. Revenge is all that he wants right now. Power to fight against Kaname to avenge his family. That's all he wants... I feel sorry for the guy...

Zero is just using Sara, so I doubt that he will continue being on her side...Actually he was NEVER on her side... Just using her.

The thing with Zero is : he is very difficult to manipulate with magical powers nor spells . Meaning no mind control tricks in general .

As you said ; Zero had drank from more purebloods than any person alive ( except for a pureblood ) . Zero's powers has to be almost equal to a pureblood level . Probably more easy for him to break any kind of mind control thrown at him .

The problems are : no matter how powerful Zero is . His weakness involves being impulsive . Wanting to believe he is in control of things . His hate for vampires and his humongous hate for Kaname . His desire for revenge . His love for Yuuki .

This means Zero is blind to his emotions . Sara is a relative weak pureblood vampire . She is smart enough to recognize Zero could not turn to her side with the usual methods . For her the best bet was to play with Zero's emotions . Making Zero believe he is in total control of his actions . Making Zero thinks Yuuki is agreeing with her . In reality Sara is the one guiding him . This is called being tricked or played .

Of course Zero will not be forever with Sara . But will be very difficult to make him out of her hands . Specially now he drank from her blood .