Is Zero on Sara's Side?

First topic message reminder :

In chapter 78, according to chinese raws:

>>> sara called zero a weapon, and everything is okay if she will get her weapon

>>>kaien asked zero who spread the blood tablets in cross acedemy, a flashback of sara went through his mind but he kept silent.

>>>Moreover he said to kaien they should have purebloods by themself who can be advantageous to them and he - zero - likes the idea to have purebloods inside cross academy.

>>>Moreover, zero told yuuki he won't let her do anything to sara.

SassyKnight wrote:Zero is not on Sara's side. I think he's just using Sara for her power for his revenge on Kaname. I think that he also want answers from her. Zero is smart; He would never side with a Pureblood (Well except Yuki) XD

But that is the Sara's plan for Zero.She use his hatred (also his weakness) to make Zero do what she want: Kill Kaname.

Well they are both using each other. I think that there will be a Zero and Kaname battle in the next chapter (YES) XD And Yuki will have to make her decision. To me, YuMe seems dead, and yes I know that they had a small "I miss you" reaction this chapter, but it's not enough to mend their relationship. IMO I think that Yuki wi=on't stand by and left Kaname do what he wants now (As Yuki had stated) And start to realise her feelings for Zero.

nina wrote:

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well yes, they have made a deal, that zero will hide her at the association and she will help him to kill Kaname since they share a common enemy. Wasn't that obvious from the start? o.O

Orly??? It was so obvious from the start?? Then who wrote the beneath posts???>>>

SassyKnight wrote: I don't think he is on her side exactly, I believe he wants her alive for more information about his family's death 5 years ago. Zero has a reason to act that way and I think he's just desperate for answers

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote: I don't think Zero is really "on Sara's side"

He did tell yuuki to leave Sara alone, but my guess is he probably thinks he can get more information out of her.

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1086p20-is-zero-on-sara-s-side

Shoujo-Zo-18 wrote: Is Zero on Sara's side....? Hm, nope i just think he wants to draw information for her... [u]But Kaname is on her side! Actually it's more like she's on his side since he probably commissioned her to help[/b].... If you read the latest chapter it was mentioned that Sara has been helping him kill purebloods....but now he's going to kill her. Is that how you treat your accomplices Kaname? I feel sorry for whatever becomes of Kain and Ruka!! D:

iiXerxes wrote: I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1086p30-is-zero-on-sara-s-side

Yes, you are completely right. Opinions change with new information and new chapters. I believe when I said that, Zero had spoken with Sara but I wasn't sure of his intentions yet. What i meant was obvious was that they share a common enemy, Kaname... Since Zero has always hated Kaname and Sara said she wants to defeat Kaname and become the Pureblood Queen. I think it was chapter 80 where Zero finally agreed on a deal with Sara, thus making them a team. I don't think chapter 80 was out yet when Zero first spoke with Sara. And it's obvious now that Kaname's not her ally since he wants to kill her and she wants to kill him. What are you trying to prove? That I had a different opinion in the past? Yes, yes I did. I'm not arguing that point because there is no rule that says I can't change my opinions with more information. As for the other quotes I don't believe those are mine.

Rikana-hime wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:Zero is not on Sara's side. I think he's just using Sara for her power for his revenge on Kaname. I think that he also want answers from her. Zero is smart; He would never side with a Pureblood (Well except Yuki) XD

But that is the Sara's plan for Zero.She use his hatred (also his weakness) to make Zero do what she want: Kill Kaname.

Now there's no more doubt about the relation between Sara and Zero .
Zero is drinking Sara's blood in a sexy way . Don't panic . They're are not lovers . YET ! Takuma runs to kill Zero !

Just a dumb joke !

In a little more serious rant . ( Not much ! )

Now everybody is saying they expect Zero bites Sara . As Zero wants to get stronger for killing Kaname . And seeing their siding together in a benefical symbiotic patnership . Where Zero has control of his acts and was not manipulated by Sara .

Easy to say the dog is male after lifting it and check the balls .

Another dumb joke !

I remember being the one who mentioned Zero's siding with Sara way back ( around chapter 58 ) .Including the bite part . Many dismissed my idea as crazy rants .

For once I like to quote the post in this same page :

Do you think Zero continue to be on Sara's side?
Yes!!!!!![ 26 ] [21%] .

No.[ 65 ] [53%] .

Not sure...[ 30 ] [24%] .

Only a 21 % of people believes Zero and Sara were at the same side .

But this unpopular idea is CANON NOW .

The problem of Zero siding Sara is he believes he is control of the situation . That he made his own choices . But Sara uses Zero in the way she wanted . Because Sara knew Zero was impetous , stubborn and a risk - taker . A loner . Hated Kanaem the most . And in love with Yuuki .

I think that Zero cannot be controlled easily. For one he has the power of FIVE Purebloods inside him, PLUS Ichiru's blood. So he is the strongest Hunter, along with Purebloods Blood...I doubt he can be easily controlled holding that much power.

Zero is only drinking Sara's blood for two reasons: POWER and REVENGE. Revenge is all that he wants right now. Power to fight against Kaname to avenge his family. That's all he wants... I feel sorry for the guy...

Zero is just using Sara, so I doubt that he will continue being on her side...Actually he was NEVER on her side... Just using her.

SassyKnight wrote:I think that Zero cannot be controlled easily. For one he has the power of FIVE Purebloods inside him, PLUS Ichiru's blood. So he is the strongest Hunter, along with Purebloods Blood...I doubt he can be easily controlled holding that much power.

Zero is only drinking Sara's blood for two reasons: POWER and REVENGE. Revenge is all that he wants right now. Power to fight against Kaname to avenge his family. That's all he wants... I feel sorry for the guy...

Zero is just using Sara, so I doubt that he will continue being on her side...Actually he was NEVER on her side... Just using her.

The thing with Zero is : he is very difficult to manipulate with magical powers nor spells . Meaning no mind control tricks in general .

As you said ; Zero had drank from more purebloods than any person alive ( except for a pureblood ) . Zero's powers has to be almost equal to a pureblood level . Probably more easy for him to break any kind of mind control thrown at him .

The problems are : no matter how powerful Zero is . His weakness involves being impulsive . Wanting to believe he is in control of things . His hate for vampires and his humongous hate for Kaname . His desire for revenge . His love for Yuuki .

This means Zero is blind to his emotions . Sara is a relative weak pureblood vampire . She is smart enough to recognize Zero could not turn to her side with the usual methods . For her the best bet was to play with Zero's emotions . Making Zero believe he is in total control of his actions . Making Zero thinks Yuuki is agreeing with her . In reality Sara is the one guiding him . This is called being tricked or played .

Of course Zero will not be forever with Sara . But will be very difficult to make him out of her hands . Specially now he drank from her blood .

I don´t really think so. Zero´s simply are not that impulse anymore. I actually think Zero has matured enough to think rational. Zero seems to have become a player in the game too.

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote: Yes, you are completely right. Opinions change with new information and new chapters.

Yes … you are right too. Opinions change and should change when new info comes to light which overturn old impressions. In fact this is the right way or else is like being in denial.

However this wasn’t my point.

I believe when I said that, Zero had spoken with Sara but I wasn't sure of his intentions yet. What i meant was obvious was that they share a common enemy, Kaname... Since Zero has always hated Kaname and Sara said she wants to defeat Kaname and become the Pureblood Queen. I think it was chapter 80 where Zero finally agreed on a deal with Sara, thus making them a team. I don't think chapter 80 was out yet when Zero first spoke with Sara. And it's obvious now that Kaname's not her ally since he wants to kill her and she wants to kill him. What are you trying to prove? That I had a different opinion in the past? Yes, yes I did. I'm not arguing that point because there is no rule that says I can't change my opinions with more information. As for the other quotes I don't believe those are mine.

To prove your contradiction … when you stated >> Wasn’t that obvious from the start? o.O >> while you’ve denied the obvious from the start and MOSTLY because of your subtle but yet transparent attempt to badmouth Kaname and provoking his fans by saying>>

If you read the latest chapter it was mentioned that Sara has been helping him kill purebloods....but now he's going to kill her. Is that how you treat your accomplices Kaname? I feel sorry for whatever becomes of Kain and Ruka!! D:

>> while it was obvious from the start that Sara is Kaname’s enemy …

I suppose you were pissed because some of us were stating the obvious from the start that Zero was heading towards Sara’s side … for his own reasons yes, but yet seems like he’s helping her with her goals. So you tried to badmouth Kaname in return.

That was my point ... plus that it wasn’t so obvious for some Zekis from the start (and still as I see ) thus and I quoted your friends’ posts as well. I didn’t say that it was yours hence I carefully put their names on the quotes to avoid misunderstandings.

mariangie wrote:

For once I like to quote the post in this same page :

Do you think Zero continue to be on Sara's side?
Yes!!!!!![ 26 ] [21%] .

No.[ 65 ] [53%] .

Not sure...[ 30 ] [24%] .

Only a 21 % of people believes Zero and Sara were at the same side .

But this unpopular idea is CANON NOW .

Bullseye Maria! (^.~)

VampireCythia wrote:I don´t really think so. Zero´s simply are not that impulse anymore. I actually think Zero has matured enough to think rational. Zero seems to have become a player in the game too.

and you base on opinion on what?

general question, didn't Zero see the effects of Sara's blood on the NC? is he aware of the consequences? can't exactly remember...

VampireCythia wrote:I don´t really think so. Zero´s simply are not that impulse anymore. I actually think Zero has matured enough to think rational. Zero seems to have become a player in the game too.

Personally, I don't believe Zero is matured to think rational... he's still the same Zero that we've known since chapter 1. I may have to agree with you that Zero is Sara's White Knight piece, but his hatred and avenging his twin brother to Kaname will always remain the same.

juliet wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:I don´t really think so. Zero´s simply are not that impulse anymore. I actually think Zero has matured enough to think rational. Zero seems to have become a player in the game too.

and you base on opinion on what?

general question, didn't Zero see the effects of Sara's blood on the NC? is he aware of the consequences? can't exactly remember...

Well... here's my opinion on Zero having matured... Seeings how it's been over a year since they left cross academy...ALL of the characters have matured at least a little bit. Obviously Zero is able to do his job as a hunter more seriously and not take pity on the murderous level e's who don't deserve it. ( as he did in the first arc...which could have gotten him killed if he kept doing so ) So i'd say recognizing a vampire's true nature and that you can't change it is very mature indeed. Letting Yuuki go, even making sure she was rid of all her worries before she left...without even putting up a fight for his love....very mature. He didn't break down and beg her not to go....he didn't battle Kaname for her sake... he told her "Go...be with the man who can spend eternity with you" ( not a direct quote...basic meaning from memory). As for the effects of Sara's blood on the night class.. they had blood tablets, not her blood. The tablet form could have a different effect....but then again you could be right... Sara might be able to control Zero now...but why would she need to? He already wants to kill kaname...nothing anyone says will change that. Zero may have been aware of how the tablets affected the night class ( i don't remember if she did... but yuuki would have to of told him about it) , but either way,he can't just attack Kaname at random.... he did think rationally by attaining power from the blood of another pureblood who had the same goal in mind.

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well... here's my opinion on Zero having matured... Seeings how it's been over a year since they left cross academy...ALL of the characters have matured at least a little bit. Obviously Zero is able to do his job as a hunter more seriously and not take pity on the murderous level e's who don't deserve it. ( as he did in the first arc...which could have gotten him killed if he kept doing so ) So i'd say recognizing a vampire's true nature and that you can't change it is very mature indeed. Letting Yuuki go, even making sure she was rid of all her worries before she left...without even putting up a fight for his love....very mature. He didn't break down and beg her not to go....he didn't battle Kaname for her sake... he told her "Go...be with the man who can spend eternity with you" ( not a direct quote...basic meaning from memory). As for the effects of Sara's blood on the night class.. they had blood tablets, not her blood. The tablet form could have a different effect....but then again you could be right... Sara might be able to control Zero now...but why would she need to? He already wants to kill kaname...nothing anyone says will change that. Zero may have been aware of how the tablets affected the night class ( i don't remember if she did... but yuuki would have to of told him about it) , but either way,he can't just attack Kaname at random.... he did think rationally by attaining power from the blood of another pureblood who had the same goal in mind.

Then why is Zero put the faith and trust in Sara instead of Kaien?

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.
Zero dislikes sara as much as he dislikes Kaname.... He is only helping sara for yuuki

KuranPrince wrote:

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well... here's my opinion on Zero having matured... Seeings how it's been over a year since they left cross academy...ALL of the characters have matured at least a little bit. Obviously Zero is able to do his job as a hunter more seriously and not take pity on the murderous level e's who don't deserve it. ( as he did in the first arc...which could have gotten him killed if he kept doing so ) So i'd say recognizing a vampire's true nature and that you can't change it is very mature indeed. Letting Yuuki go, even making sure she was rid of all her worries before she left...without even putting up a fight for his love....very mature. He didn't break down and beg her not to go....he didn't battle Kaname for her sake... he told her "Go...be with the man who can spend eternity with you" ( not a direct quote...basic meaning from memory). As for the effects of Sara's blood on the night class.. they had blood tablets, not her blood. The tablet form could have a different effect....but then again you could be right... Sara might be able to control Zero now...but why would she need to? He already wants to kill kaname...nothing anyone says will change that. Zero may have been aware of how the tablets affected the night class ( i don't remember if she did... but yuuki would have to of told him about it) , but either way,he can't just attack Kaname at random.... he did think rationally by attaining power from the blood of another pureblood who had the same goal in mind.

Then why is Zero put the faith and trust in Sara instead of Kaien?

Because Kaien is a pacifist... he doesn't want to kill Kaname if possible and he's already shown his disgust to Zero when he said he didn't have a problem with letting Kaname kill all the Purebloods. Meaning he's not on the same wavelength as Kaien. But he is with Sara because they both want to kill Kaname.

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:

KuranPrince wrote:

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well... here's my opinion on Zero having matured... Seeings how it's been over a year since they left cross academy...ALL of the characters have matured at least a little bit. Obviously Zero is able to do his job as a hunter more seriously and not take pity on the murderous level e's who don't deserve it. ( as he did in the first arc...which could have gotten him killed if he kept doing so ) So i'd say recognizing a vampire's true nature and that you can't change it is very mature indeed. Letting Yuuki go, even making sure she was rid of all her worries before she left...without even putting up a fight for his love....very mature. He didn't break down and beg her not to go....he didn't battle Kaname for her sake... he told her "Go...be with the man who can spend eternity with you" ( not a direct quote...basic meaning from memory). As for the effects of Sara's blood on the night class.. they had blood tablets, not her blood. The tablet form could have a different effect....but then again you could be right... Sara might be able to control Zero now...but why would she need to? He already wants to kill kaname...nothing anyone says will change that. Zero may have been aware of how the tablets affected the night class ( i don't remember if she did... but yuuki would have to of told him about it) , but either way,he can't just attack Kaname at random.... he did think rationally by attaining power from the blood of another pureblood who had the same goal in mind.

Then why is Zero put the faith and trust in Sara instead of Kaien?

Because Kaien is a pacifist... he doesn't want to kill Kaname if possible and he's already shown his disgust to Zero when he said he didn't have a problem with letting Kaname kill all the Purebloods. Meaning he's not on the same wavelength as Kaien. But he is with Sara because they both want to kill Kaname.

Hm... doesn't this apply on Yuuki too? I mean Kaien’s views do not coincide with Yuuki’s at the moment?

So how come and Zero isn’t on the same wavelength with Kaien but he is “kinda teaming up” with Yuuki as you supported in another thread?

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:

KuranPrince wrote:

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well... here's my opinion on Zero having matured... Seeings how it's been over a year since they left cross academy...ALL of the characters have matured at least a little bit. Obviously Zero is able to do his job as a hunter more seriously and not take pity on the murderous level e's who don't deserve it. ( as he did in the first arc...which could have gotten him killed if he kept doing so ) So i'd say recognizing a vampire's true nature and that you can't change it is very mature indeed. Letting Yuuki go, even making sure she was rid of all her worries before she left...without even putting up a fight for his love....very mature. He didn't break down and beg her not to go....he didn't battle Kaname for her sake... he told her "Go...be with the man who can spend eternity with you" ( not a direct quote...basic meaning from memory). As for the effects of Sara's blood on the night class.. they had blood tablets, not her blood. The tablet form could have a different effect....but then again you could be right... Sara might be able to control Zero now...but why would she need to? He already wants to kill kaname...nothing anyone says will change that. Zero may have been aware of how the tablets affected the night class ( i don't remember if she did... but yuuki would have to of told him about it) , but either way,he can't just attack Kaname at random.... he did think rationally by attaining power from the blood of another pureblood who had the same goal in mind.

Then why is Zero put the faith and trust in Sara instead of Kaien?

Because Kaien is a pacifist... he doesn't want to kill Kaname if possible and he's already shown his disgust to Zero when he said he didn't have a problem with letting Kaname kill all the Purebloods. Meaning he's not on the same wavelength as Kaien. But he is with Sara because they both want to kill Kaname.

Exactly. Kaien is just on a different page than Zero.
And, as you said, Zero is only with Sara because they both want to kill the same vampire... Pureblood... Kaname.
(I reckon that last part sounded pretty cool )
Anyway, Thats what I think...