Is Zero on Sara's Side?

nina wrote:The quotes are from this thread >> https://vampireknight.all-up.com/t1079p50-vampire-knight-chapter-78-full-raws-first-translation#24453

Juliet wrote: I think that the main question now is if he is a pawn > another puppet that as Sara claims he is at the same level of Takuma or if he plays his own game here and we are underestimating his intentions and scopes...

does he play chess or is he played around?

I hardly can see Zero playing chess, at least he never shown to have such trait as character. Moreover his reaction towards Yuuki and his wordings –for me at least- it is way too emotional and intense thus inconsistent with someone who’s thinking strategically and self-possessedly. >>

Anneliezz wrote: I don't think I ment you on that comment xD I quickly went to the prvious posts, and I read it somewhere in a post?. It was just my point that Zero suddenly revealing what he 'knows' was no deliberate move. Yuuki saying that Kaname was innnocent after all (or something like that) must've been the last drop (I don't even know if this expression is used in english, but you know what I mean?). I think sometimes we (we all) seek to much (like motives) behind simple emotional reactions. These are all humans (or vampires but you get the point ), not Robots.

Okay then sorry if I misunderstood.
So we agree …
I count his reaction more of an impulse driven from mixed and intense suppressed feelings rather as a well calculated move to serve a plan there. And while this estimation doesn’t rule out the possibility to have acted this way because he can’t stand Yuuki defending Kaname and want to go to him –thus and badmouthing him- it does limit the explanation that he is protecting her as a source for more info. >>

That's why I said we don't need to put him into a corner with Sara. Like everyoneone said it is totally against his values. But if he feels like he might only get the truth form her, then he will want to at least protect his information source. For example to win time.

I do not believe either that he suddenly loved Sara of course. But I think that he fully believed her thus placed himself into her web. If Zero had doubts for what Sara told him or a plan to counter her IMO he wouldn’t badmouth Kaname especially to Yuuki. Although we know his personal biased opinion for Kaname I find it difficult to degrade him in front of her moreover since Yuuki didn’t express the intention to kill Sara.
I mean in case that he wanted to protect the source for more info as you supported, why he went to such extents? Was Sara running any danger to be killed from Yuuki at that moment? Why such rush and determination to protect Sara right there? Why he treated roughly Hanadagi’s guard ignoring her testimony?

Anyways getting his source killed, would be unfurtunate.

Didn’t Yuuki say that she’ll stop Kaname? If Yuuki stops Kaname wouldn’t that serve Zero’s interest IF his interest is to protect Sara only in order to gain more time and info? If that was his motive then he should have let Yuuki to stop Kaname cuz their interests coincide.


His wording “I won’t let you lay your hands on that woman …” !!!! and
“That man … Kaname Kuran … every single one of his cells, the entirety of his existence, is nothing but filth!” IMO are very strong and emotional to indicate only his attempt to protect a source. And how by saying that Kaname is filthy protecting Sara? When he said that Kaname hadn’t appeared yet!?

Additional if his only intention was to protect only Sara=source why he said to Kaien>>

Zero: “…I just wish we had more purebloods like this who serve our interest.”

He wished to have more PBs to serve their interests?!!!! What this could have to do with his intention to protect ONLY Sara for the time being at least?

I think Yuuki’s words together with Zero’s statements nailed your estimation about Zero’s motive.

Furthermore Sara seems pretty confident that she gained the weapon aka Zero that she was seeking for long and that he shall fall as Takuma. Her words leading me to the thought that Zero believed her and thus possibly he’ll drink from her in the near future something that will bond him further and bring him on the same position as Takuma, if not even worse cuz Takuma knows her deceptions and he has self-awareness of the position that he is in to.

Hmm, I see for the murder of his parents Yagari would know more.but.. Kaien could possibly know more from K.(Like the situation with Yuuki, Kaien knew about it). Indeed he trusts Yagari, but that's why he wouldn't ask. Yagari would never hold back any information like that. While Kaien has already done that. The difference is that that time it was for Yuuki's best interest...But then again he never really trusted Kaien when it came to vampire matters.

I hardly can believe that Kaien would cover Kaname’s involvement into Zero’s parents’ murder. The fact that Kaien hid from Zero Yuuki’s true nature has a totally different gravity to be compared. Moreover, didn’t Kaien hide Zero’s vampirism from Yuuki and on expense of her? Zero has no right to mistrust Kaien based on this in the first place. And if that is his rational then in my eyes he is irrational.
Furthermore –maybe it’s me- but this speculation seems contradictory …
He goes to Kaien who doesn’t trust to ask about Kaname’s plan? And why trusting what Kaien would have to say since he doesn’t trust him; especially concerning Kaname’s affairs?

Sarah seems to have told him K had everything to do with his family, so it's not weird for Zero to ask If Kaien knew about Kaname's plans, like he knew about his plans with Yuuki.

For me it is weird! I’ll repeat myself … what connection can have Kaname’s current or future moves with the death of his parents??? Asking for Kaname’s current plan for a matter that happened 5 years ago and it is over!?

If you have any idea I would gladly hear it cuz frankly I can’t think any connection right now.

SassyKnight wrote:
Firstly, Ichiru led Shizuka to his home (stated in the Fanbook) and even though he said "Did you suffer having your fate twisted by Shizuka Sama?" It doesn't mean that he DID ask Shizuka turn Zero, because it didn't even say that...Well I might be wrong but that's just how I see it..

Knightmare wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:
Firstly, Ichiru led Shizuka to his home (stated in the Fanbook) and even though he said "Did you suffer having your fate twisted by Shizuka Sama?" It doesn't mean that he DID ask Shizuka turn Zero, because it didn't even say that...Well I might be wrong but that's just how I see it..

I agree that it wasn't Ichiru. The fanbook says that Shizuka turned Zero because she thought he resembled her lover and Ichiru resembled herself, which is why she kept him by her side. Shizuka also stated that she turned Zero to punish his parents (flashback) and in the side story, it states she recognised his nature like her lover.

lililovelilica wrote:

knightmare wrote:
I agree that it wasn't Ichiru. The fanbook says that Shizuka turned Zero because she thought he resembled her lover and Ichiru resembled herself, which is why she kept him by her side. Shizuka also stated that she turned Zero to punish his parents (flashback) and in the side story, it states she recognised his nature like her lover.

I think that's a lie
Zero's not like Shizuka's past love...Maybe she just did it for revenge...and because she met Ichiru first and saw that it wasn't needed to bite him like Zero?

iiXerxes wrote:I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

Katherine wrote:Right because of his main goal he can´t be completely on the side of a pureblood because in the end he has to kill the pureblood too...of course he has another goal by being on her side for some time, he doesn´t need to be completely loyal to her, I don´t think Zero could be loyal to sara (just to Yuuki)...
we´ll see but I don´t like the idea of seing one if my hot boys on Sara´s evil side

iiXerxes wrote:

Katherine wrote:Right because of his main goal he can´t be completely on the side of a pureblood because in the end he has to kill the pureblood too...of course he has another goal by being on her side for some time, he doesn´t need to be completely loyal to her, I don´t think Zero could be loyal to sara (just to Yuuki)...
we´ll see but I don´t like the idea of seing one if my hot boys on Sara´s evil side

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

chantelle123457 wrote: hi i think that he should not stay on her side

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:Well yes, they have made a deal, that zero will hide her at the association and she will help him to kill Kaname since they share a common enemy. Wasn't that obvious from the start? o.O

SassyKnight wrote: I don't think he is on her side exactly, I believe he wants her alive for more information about his family's death 5 years ago. Zero has a reason to act that way and I think he's just desperate for answers

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote: I don't think Zero is really "on Sara's side"

He did tell yuuki to leave Sara alone, but my guess is he probably thinks he can get more information out of her.

Shoujo-Zo-18 wrote: Is Zero on Sara's side....? Hm, nope i just think he wants to draw information for her... [u]But Kaname is on her side! Actually it's more like she's on his side since he probably commissioned her to help[/b].... If you read the latest chapter it was mentioned that Sara has been helping him kill purebloods....but now he's going to kill her. Is that how you treat your accomplices Kaname? I feel sorry for whatever becomes of Kain and Ruka!! D:

iiXerxes wrote: I don't think zero is on sara's side...I think he's just getting information from her. he didn't want yuuki to do anything to sara or anything probably because sara told him that information about kaname being connected to the death of his parents...and i dont think he'd side with a pureblood.

Yeah...thinking about zero on sara's side would be a bit odd XD

SassyKnight wrote:Zero is not on Sara's side. I think he's just using Sara for her power for his revenge on Kaname. I think that he also want answers from her. Zero is smart; He would never side with a Pureblood (Well except Yuki) XD