Vampire Knight chapter 78

Chapter 78 has been scanlated!!

Here is the link
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78

EDIT:

http://winged-manga.com/vampireknight/78/

The chapter is still incomplete - I guess they uploaded before the scanlator finishing his job- but here's the complete chapter
http://winged-manga.com/vampireknight/78/

aya-chan wrote:The chapter is still incomplete - I guess they uploaded before the scanlator finishing his job- but here's the complete chapter
http://winged-manga.com/vampireknight/78/

Thank you aya-chan! I just noticed it ... I'll add your link on the first post if you don't mind.

Your welcome! and I do not mind at all.

What a good chapter followed by an agonizing wait lol. Glad to see that a certain pureblood has returned! ^^

You can see the chapter 78 here too ithink Manga Fox is the best site ever to see manga online:http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v15/c078/

Whoa....But what does Sara mean by "That child seems like the crystallization result of "Kaname's great sin." Does that mean Zero is somehow connected to Kaname's sin? This is why I'm concerned about Zero's past and what REALLY happened. Kaname COULD have been the one who figured everything out and he knows the truth behind the Kiryu families death....

SassyKnight wrote:Whoa....But what does Sara mean by "That child seems like the crystallization result of "Kaname's great sin." Does that mean Zero is somehow connected to Kaname's sin? This is why I'm concerned about Zero's past and what REALLY happened.

I think it's about "twins curse" but I don't know anything more. I have a bit info about the twins curse in the first arc and we already knew it somewhat connected to Kuran. And I am sure Kaname is not the one who killed Zero's family since he was just a young pureblood vampire in that time. But He is connected to the "twins curse" that may be destroyed Zero twins life. However, he doesn't involve in the murder of his family. Sara twisted the truth that I was certain she knew about from Takuma. We don't really know the "twins curse" we have really no info how/when it happened.

Kaname COULD have been the one who figured everything out and he knows the truth behind the Kiryu families death....

That's why Kaname used Zero to be Yuuki's shield in the first arc. He knew everything that one of the twins would devour another aka one was stronger and another was weaken, Zero got that from his very birth. And Kaname took Shizuka's heart to have to power and gave Zero's blood, it helped Zero in a way of not falling to Level E, since Zero couldn't kill his master and took Shizuka'blood himself. Kaname did that as far as possible Zero could kill Rido that he couldn't. Kaname is just a purblood of few purebloods who indirectly caused Zero's misery. It doesn't mean Kaname is behind the murder of Zero's parents. We all knew already.

Oh wow, shit it finally starting to hit the fan.
Zero and Shiki (more or less) are now on Sara's side. Yuuki's convinced Kaname isn't completely tainted, Zero is screaming at her he is...

So basically what I've gotten from this chapter is now Zero and Yuuki oppose each other. Yuuki hates Sara and doesn't trust her, there's no way she'd ever go over to that side of all sides. So until Zero finds out Sara is a liar and perhaps her plans to kill Yuuki, whenever that will happen, those two are most logically going to be against each other. Uh, I can't wait for the next chapter. I wonder what's going to happen to Yuuki and Kaname next. I slightly fear they may be "fighting" too and all three will end up against each other with their own plans until the very end. I hope not...
It'll be good to finally get some important information out of Kaname for the plot, though.

I predict Rima and Shiki will argue a bit. I don't think Rima will walk over to Sara's side to join Shiki, honestly.

SassyKnight wrote:Whoa....But what does Sara mean by "That child seems like the crystallization result of "Kaname's great sin." Does that mean Zero is somehow connected to Kaname's sin? This is why I'm concerned about Zero's past and what REALLY happened. Kaname COULD have been the one who figured everything out and he knows the truth behind the Kiryu families death....

This is the first time I think I got a better Spanish translation of a V. K. chapter than an English one .

From Menos Free time Spanish translation :

Sara : " Puedo decir que el nino es el fruto del " mayor pecado " de Kaname . "

My English translation of the same sentence :

Sara : " I can say that child is the fruit of the " greatest sin " of Kaname ."

I asked a friend who understand Japanese . This is what that person translated from the Japanese version .

"So to speak, that child is the fruit of Kaname's "serious crime" (or grave sin)".

My friend said " 結晶 " means "crystal" in a literal way . But in that sentence , it's meaning is more of "fruit" or "result" .
In that context saying : " Zero is the crystal or crystallization of the great sin of Kaname . " sounds kind of weird .

Indeed Zero appears to be involved somehow in Kaname's great sin . But not the way you think .

For now I think Kaname is the one who casted a curse to the hunters to their twins to die before being born .

What I can imagine is Zero ended being an outcome , result , fruit or consequence of Kaname cursing the hunters in the past . As Zero and Ichiru both survived being killed intra - uterus by the twins curse . This started the begin of Zero , Ichiru and his family tragedy .

mariangie wrote:

SassyKnight wrote:Whoa....But what does Sara mean by "That child seems like the crystallization result of "Kaname's great sin." Does that mean Zero is somehow connected to Kaname's sin? This is why I'm concerned about Zero's past and what REALLY happened. Kaname COULD have been the one who figured everything out and he knows the truth behind the Kiryu families death....

This is the first time I think I got a better Spanish translation of a V. K. chapter than an English one .

From Menos Free time Spanish translation :

Sara : " Puedo decir que el nino es el fruto del " mayor pecado " de Kaname . "

My English translation of the same sentence :

Sara : " I can say that child is the fruit of the " greatest sin " of Kaname ."

I asked a friend who understand Japanese . This is what that person translated from the Japanese version .

"So to speak, that child is the fruit of Kaname's "serious crime" (or grave sin)".

My friend said " 結晶 " means "crystal" in a literal way . But in that sentence , it's meaning is more of "fruit" or "result" .
In that context saying : " Zero is the crystal or crystallization of the great sin of Kaname . " sounds kind of weird .

Indeed Zero appears to be involved somehow in Kaname's great sin . But not the way you think .

For now I think Kaname is the one who casted a curse to the hunters to their twins to die before being born .

What I can imagine is Zero ended being an outcome , result , fruit or consequence of Kaname cursing the hunters in the past . As Zero and Ichiru both survived being killed intra - uterus by the twins curse . This started the begin of Zero , Ichiru and his family tragedy .

Thats what I think also. I don't understand this like Kaname did something to Zero with premeditation.( we only know that he used him as Yuuki's shield and to get rid of Rido). But he is responsible for this curse. He couldn't predict that in let's say 5000 Years, in some village in Kirryuu family twins will born.I don't think he even thought that something like that will happen: that's what curse is saying: this kind of pregnancy will end as miscarriage etc.
That's why in previous chapter Hino showed as the scene with twins and very shocked Kaname.

thank you for the links and for the comparision of the translation.
In japanese words mean so much ;)

Hino is so intelligent and magnificant to think about that fruit thing ;) I want to know everything now

Katherine wrote:thank you for the links and for the comparision of the translation.
In japanese words mean so much ;)

Hino is so intelligent and magnificant to think about that fruit thing ;) I want to know everything now

I also like these phrase. Somehow is mysterious and serious, because we can connect fruit with original-sin in Eden, which influenced future generations.

Thats what I think also. I don't understand this like Kaname did something to Zero with premeditation.( we only know that he used him as Yuuki's shield and to get rid of Rido). But he is responsible for this curse. He couldn't predict that in let's say 5000 Years, in some village in Kirryuu family twins will born.I don't think he even thought that something like that will happen: that's what curse is saying: this kind of pregnancy will end as miscarriage etc.
That's why in previous chapter Hino showed as the scene with twins and very shocked Kaname.

That's what I also believe in this case; that the "sin" is connected to the past and in a way that justifies also the significance of the "ancestor" revelation...that was the foundation of Sara's plan> she seems to have well estimated and taken into account that part in her plan> therefore she can twist and perplex things especially if there are parts of the past that are blurry...

In a way that could turn epic there because if we spoke about a revelation that is connected to Kaname's ancestor life and the cause that this curse was placed, suddenly a window opens that narrates ancestor story and that would travel us to the past again...

It would also justify certain parts> example...since Kaname knew that all of these would end up in his revelation about the past then it is logical why he also uncovered that part to Yuuki preparing her upon leaving> its like an introduction whereas at the same time he passes the message of the sacrifice...

Another part that would be justified perhaps could be his arrival now at the academy because among other things, Kaname would not like Yuuki to hear lies and uncover a past herself, one that he did not have the time to explain or that he may intended to found out later by herself (example with the key) > that sounds exciting...even though in predictions and theories mode, the twist to the past would be again tremendous here...

I am still left with the idea that the revelation of the past is a significant part for the future...

rosaever wrote:

Katherine wrote:thank you for the links and for the comparision of the translation.
In japanese words mean so much ;)

Hino is so intelligent and magnificant to think about that fruit thing ;) I want to know everything now

I also like these phrase. Somehow is mysterious and serious, because we can connect fruit with original-sin in Eden, which influenced future generations.

I thought about Eden too ;) The fruit is a symbol that returns very often in our history, in myths and in histories in general...

It´s so great that Hino thought about that. The fruit that had the power to change ecerything. A curse (Don´t want to see Zero or Ichiru as a curse but underline this power)

I was looking this page >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78/40

>> and I noticed that on the upper right panel seems like Zero is getting a “hit” or better passes right next to him? Cuz he suddenly stops and Yuuki turns her head … could be a “strike” from Kaname thus they realised his presence?

Am I wrong? I can’t be sure and the sound it’s not translated.

If there is something like that maybe we can have a first clue of how Kaname could react in the next issue!?

Cuz if he sent a strike to Zero, together with his pissed expression then

nina wrote:I was looking this page >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78/40

>> and I noticed that on the upper right panel seems like Zero is getting a “hit” or better passes right next to him? Cuz he suddenly stops and Yuuki turns her head … could be a “strike” from Kaname thus they realised his presence?

Am I wrong? I can’t be sure and the sound it’s not translated.

If there is something like that maybe we can have a first clue of how Kaname could react in the next issue!?

Cuz if he sent a strike to Zero, together with his pissed expression then

YEAH NINA!!!

if possible, look it seems that zero is bleeding or something. And if because Yuki is surprised face and then turns to see ... Uh, if you get really good the next chapter!! I think kaname did it, because zero was trying so violently to yuki, for something she had nothing to do!

nina wrote:I was looking this page >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78/40

>> and I noticed that on the upper right panel seems like Zero is getting a “hit” or better passes right next to him? Cuz he suddenly stops and Yuuki turns her head … could be a “strike” from Kaname thus they realised his presence?

Am I wrong? I can’t be sure and the sound it’s not translated.

If there is something like that maybe we can have a first clue of how Kaname could react in the next issue!?

Cuz if he sent a strike to Zero, together with his pissed expression then

I was also wondering how they realized that Kaname is there. First I thought that Yuuki sensed him, but now after your post I looked more carefully.
On page 39 Zero is holding his two hand on Yuukis and then this strange thing happened and it looks like his right hand is going up to his face.
And Yuuki is saying: Zero, just what- it's like she is wondering what he just said but maybe also because he get hurt. Very interesting.

rosaever wrote:

nina wrote:I was looking this page >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78/40

>> and I noticed that on the upper right panel seems like Zero is getting a “hit” or better passes right next to him? Cuz he suddenly stops and Yuuki turns her head … could be a “strike” from Kaname thus they realised his presence?

Am I wrong? I can’t be sure and the sound it’s not translated.

If there is something like that maybe we can have a first clue of how Kaname could react in the next issue!?

Cuz if he sent a strike to Zero, together with his pissed expression then

I was also wondering how they realized that Kaname is there. First I thought that Yuuki sensed him, but now after your post I looked more carefully.
On page 39 Zero is holding his two hand on Yuukis and then this strange thing happened and it looks like his right hand is going up to his face.
And Yuuki is saying: Zero, just what- it's like she is wondering what he just said but maybe also because he get hurt. Very interesting.

I asked a friend of mine and he told me the sound that it was maked in zero's face is a type of-SLASH
something really hurt his face...and it was Kaname attacking Zero because he's angry about what he said to Yuuki,next chapter maybe it'll end in a battle again between these two!

lililovelilica wrote:

rosaever wrote:

nina wrote:I was looking this page >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/78/40

>> and I noticed that on the upper right panel seems like Zero is getting a “hit” or better passes right next to him? Cuz he suddenly stops and Yuuki turns her head … could be a “strike” from Kaname thus they realised his presence?

Am I wrong? I can’t be sure and the sound it’s not translated.

If there is something like that maybe we can have a first clue of how Kaname could react in the next issue!?

Cuz if he sent a strike to Zero, together with his pissed expression then

I was also wondering how they realized that Kaname is there. First I thought that Yuuki sensed him, but now after your post I looked more carefully.
On page 39 Zero is holding his two hand on Yuukis and then this strange thing happened and it looks like his right hand is going up to his face.
And Yuuki is saying: Zero, just what- it's like she is wondering what he just said but maybe also because he get hurt. Very interesting.

I asked a friend of mine and he told me the sound that it was maked in zero's face is a type of-SLASH
something really hurt his face...and it was Kaname attacking Zero because he's angry about what he said to Yuuki,next chapter maybe it'll end in a battle again between these two!

O God all thanks to Nina!!! We discovered that is going to be a ugly fight or intensity at the time, in the next chapter!!! Thanks again Nina!!!
And yes kaname was angry!!!! For the way in zero treats yuki!!!!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

rosaever wrote:

I was also wondering how they realized that Kaname is there. First I thought that Yuuki sensed him, but now after your post I looked more carefully.
On page 39 Zero is holding his two hand on Yuukis and then this strange thing happened and it looks like his right hand is going up to his face.
And Yuuki is saying: Zero, just what- it's like she is wondering what he just said but maybe also because he get hurt. Very interesting.

I asked a friend of mine and he told me the sound that it was maked in zero's face is a type of-SLASH
something really hurt his face...and it was Kaname attacking Zero because he's angry about what he said to Yuuki,next chapter maybe it'll end in a battle again between these two!

O God all thanks to Nina!!! We discovered that is going to be a ugly fight or intensity at the time, in the next chapter!!! Thanks again Nina!!!
And yes kaname was angry!!!! For the way in zero treats yuki!!!!

Really??? WOW! This is really intersting!

Thanks for the info lililovelilica

You are welcome MariaKuran

Let's think what this could mean for Kaname's next move ...

nina wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
I asked a friend of mine and he told me the sound that it was maked in zero's face is a type of-SLASH
something really hurt his face...and it was Kaname attacking Zero because he's angry about what he said to Yuuki,next chapter maybe it'll end in a battle again between these two!

O God all thanks to Nina!!! We discovered that is going to be a ugly fight or intensity at the time, in the next chapter!!! Thanks again Nina!!!
And yes kaname was angry!!!! For the way in zero treats yuki!!!!

Really??? WOW! This is really intersting!

Thanks for the info lililovelilica

You are welcome MariaKuran

Let's think what this could mean for Kaname's next move ...

First Option:

1 - I think kaname is going to call yuki to come to his side (to protect her).
2-She is going to refuse, and kaname is going to get serious. Going to try to get close
3-She is going to say please do not approach but is explained first.
4-He will try to approach her.
5-Zero is going to threaten and to point the gun!

Second Option:

1 - zero is too angry and upset with kaname.
2 - Zero's going to take Yuki as hostage (Yuki surprised) pointed a gun at her and going to threaten to kaname.
3 - Kaname i going to be angry.
4 - Yuki begins to mourn, zero let go, she runs to the side of kaname.
5 - Kaname hides her behind his back.
6 - Zero points his gun at kaname and demands answers ...
7 - kaname begins to tell the truth ...

HAHAHA good imagination, but it's all that I occasionally happen ...

nina wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
I asked a friend of mine and he told me the sound that it was maked in zero's face is a type of-SLASH
something really hurt his face...and it was Kaname attacking Zero because he's angry about what he said to Yuuki,next chapter maybe it'll end in a battle again between these two!

O God all thanks to Nina!!! We discovered that is going to be a ugly fight or intensity at the time, in the next chapter!!! Thanks again Nina!!!
And yes kaname was angry!!!! For the way in zero treats yuki!!!!

Really??? WOW! This is really intersting!

Thanks for the info lililovelilica

You are welcome MariaKuran

Let's think what this could mean for Kaname's next move ...

no,it's nothing
well i think kaname will grab yuuki's arms and talk alone with her all by themselves!kya
and she'll ask him what's his secrets and kaname will not answer...just look ate her...
after he'll kill Sara...maybe even ichijou...
he wants very much to kill sara and zero after all!

lililovelilica wrote:

nina wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:


O God all thanks to Nina!!! We discovered that is going to be a ugly fight or intensity at the time, in the next chapter!!! Thanks again Nina!!!
And yes kaname was angry!!!! For the way in zero treats yuki!!!!

Really??? WOW! This is really intersting!

Thanks for the info lililovelilica

You are welcome MariaKuran

Let's think what this could mean for Kaname's next move ...

no,it's nothing
well i think kaname will grab yuuki's arms and talk alone with her all by themselves!kya
and she'll ask him what's his secrets and kaname will not answer...just look ate her...
after he'll kill Sara...maybe even ichijou...
he wants very much to kill sara and zero after all!

but you´re forgetting that there is zero. And he is really angry with kaname at that time ... And also Kaname attack zero, you think let them go to speak both "alone" ... We know that will not happen, zero is predictable in that part!!! ...

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

nina wrote:

Really??? WOW! This is really intersting!

Thanks for the info lililovelilica

You are welcome MariaKuran

Let's think what this could mean for Kaname's next move ...

no,it's nothing
well i think kaname will grab yuuki's arms and talk alone with her all by themselves!kya
and she'll ask him what's his secrets and kaname will not answer...just look ate her...
after he'll kill Sara...maybe even ichijou...
he wants very much to kill sara and zero after all!

but you´re forgetting that there is zero. And he is really angry with kaname at that time ... And also Kaname attack zero, you think let them go to speak both "alone" ... We know that will not happen, zero is predictable in that part!!! ...

Zero's not stronger than Kaname
so i think if they really fight each other than kaname wins of course and he will grab Yuuki and leave the school(for awhile)and then he kills Sara