VAMPIRE KNIGHT 83! FULL RAWS!!!!

Spoiler:

http://vampire-knight.livejournal.com/999419.html

Full translation from Senby...credit to her..

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:

kialovejapan wrote:@evil in love: Thanks for your compliments!! ^^ But it's true when you say:

Every tiny thing about Zeki is so precious for Zeki fans.

Me too!! When I saw that Zero take up Yuuki, my heart was beating at 10,000

Of course everything about them is precious! It's not to be considered a bad thing. xD Yumes enjoy small things too don't they? Like a look about their eyes... or two words " My Kaname" Yea.... i understand how they feel cuz i'm like that over Zeki ^^ which is why I went all when she said " we have the same goal" and " is it okay for me to stay here?" x3

Same goal? to protect Sara?

kialovejapan wrote:

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:

kialovejapan wrote:@evil in love: Thanks for your compliments!! ^^ But it's true when you say:

Me too!! When I saw that Zero take up Yuuki, my heart was beating at 10,000

Of course everything about them is precious! It's not to be considered a bad thing. xD Yumes enjoy small things too don't they? Like a look about their eyes... or two words " My Kaname" Yea.... i understand how they feel cuz i'm like that over Zeki ^^ which is why I went all when she said " we have the same goal" and " is it okay for me to stay here?" x3

Oh yeah Zo!!!
Every fan is happy when see a sweet scene of their beloved pairing!!! I mean otherwise you are not a fan!!! XD
So sweet Yuuki in this chapter I can sleep with sweets dreams the night knowing that!! It doesn't matter if we have to wait 2 months for the next chapter!!! I'll read and re-read this chpter until to consume my mouse!!!! XD
Pay attention at the title of this chapter BOND!! This has 3 meanings:
1) Yuuki finally is free to the Kaname's bond!! She can set herself freerly in the sky!! And fly away with her wings by Kaname-sama XD
2) The second meaning is about Zero-kun...He was bounded by that black widow of Sara.....>.< damned...What she is going to planning?!?!?! She pisses me off
3)Another meaning could be referred to Ruka who betrayed Kaname, choosing to protect Kiryu....she broke the bond to Kaname and finally can see Kain's feeling!!!
The Hino sama is a really great mind!!!

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:
I loved Yuuki's thoughts about Zero... though they are very sad... it was said beautifully "If you entrust your body to darkness, where it is frozen, then you probably won’t feel a thing. If what’s frozen melts, you’ll feel the accompanying pain that was once frozen away.Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk out of this dark forest, and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves will shine on the frozen body." Yes, Yuuki... you are finally realizing that Zero is in a dark and frozen place... and he is hiding away his pain... Only you can bring him back into the warm light and unfreeze his tortured soul... x3

You left out the bond between zero & yuuki which has started to repair, even more with this chapter o.O

I thought that was kind of jerkish that kaname would just throw Ruka away like that....:/ Now he's got no one on his side, but Seiren. Ruka did it in part for kaname, not just zero... and Kaname treats her efforts like trash... so yea, he DID deserve that fireball from Kain! D:<

You left out the bond between zero & yuuki which has started to repair, even more with this chapter o.O

I thought that was kind of jerkish that kaname would just throw Ruka away like that....:/ Now he's got no one on his side, but Seiren. Ruka did it in part for kaname, not just zero... and Kaname treats her efforts like trash... so yea, he DID deserve that fireball from Kain! D:<

Knightmare wrote:The walking out of the dark forest is not a reference to yume as a couple. yuuki is talking about everyone being in the forest. the deep dark forest seems to be a metaphor for their issues, being lost in their problems/worries and not having a path. my friend suggested its about being alone/loneliness. zero chooses to isolate himself and wants no attachments since 43.

[Cut and paste a reposting of Yuuki's thoughts without the dialogue, based on Senbya's notes - repost from LJ]

"Even if we become exhausted in a deep and dark forest,
Ruka-san has Kain-senpai by her side,
so she’ll be OK, that’s what I believe.

We’ve always been wandering around
and searching for an exit in a deep and dark forest.
and now I have nowhere else to go.
While Zero is frozen in chilling darkness,
you are walking further and further away from me, Kaname…
I don’t think you’ll ever twine my hair (in your fingers) again.

Hey, Zero...
If you entrust your body to darkness,
where it is frozen,
then you probably won't feel a thing.

If what's frozen melts, you'll feel the accompanying pain
that was once frozen away.

Despite all that...
Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk
out of this dark forest,
and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves
will shine on the frozen body,

and then .. "

i believe the last bit yuuki is talking about she and zero walking out of the dark forest, since she's talking about getting sun on his frozen body. this is about hope that things will get better and they will get past their issues. so together, they will actually get past their loneliness.

"my beloved is now in a deep dark forest" was the title for 50.
retrospectively an addition to end of 49 was Kaname's words about Yuuki creating a deep dark forest in her heart that grew during the time he had to let go of her

If he is referring to when she became human, the deep dark forest must be referring to Yuuki's insecurities and fears about her lost self and missing memories. Kaname offers to wonder through it together -> to support her. to be with her.

additional to 50,
"one year...has passed...in this deep dark forest".
If the forest started from ten years ago, this seems a funny line.
it makes more sense now, yuuki during that year was worried about being alone forever, at the end of 51, she asks to stay with kaname and she is over her worries. now kaname is further and further away from her and she asks if she can stay with zero (because they share the same goal).

kialovejapan wrote:

Knightmare wrote:The walking out of the dark forest is not a reference to yume as a couple. yuuki is talking about everyone being in the forest. the deep dark forest seems to be a metaphor for their issues, being lost in their problems/worries and not having a path. my friend suggested its about being alone/loneliness. zero chooses to isolate himself and wants no attachments since 43.

[Cut and paste a reposting of Yuuki's thoughts without the dialogue, based on Senbya's notes - repost from LJ]

"Even if we become exhausted in a deep and dark forest,
Ruka-san has Kain-senpai by her side,
so she’ll be OK, that’s what I believe.

We’ve always been wandering around
and searching for an exit in a deep and dark forest.
and now I have nowhere else to go.
While Zero is frozen in chilling darkness,
you are walking further and further away from me, Kaname…
I don’t think you’ll ever twine my hair (in your fingers) again.

Hey, Zero...
If you entrust your body to darkness,
where it is frozen,
then you probably won't feel a thing.

If what's frozen melts, you'll feel the accompanying pain
that was once frozen away.

Despite all that...
Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk
out of this dark forest,
and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves
will shine on the frozen body,

and then .. "

i believe the last bit yuuki is talking about she and zero walking out of the dark forest, since she's talking about getting sun on his frozen body. this is about hope that things will get better and they will get past their issues. so together, they will actually get past their loneliness.

"my beloved is now in a deep dark forest" was the title for 50.
retrospectively an addition to end of 49 was Kaname's words about Yuuki creating a deep dark forest in her heart that grew during the time he had to let go of her

If he is referring to when she became human, the deep dark forest must be referring to Yuuki's insecurities and fears about her lost self and missing memories. Kaname offers to wonder through it together -> to support her. to be with her.

additional to 50,
"one year...has passed...in this deep dark forest".
If the forest started from ten years ago, this seems a funny line.
it makes more sense now, yuuki during that year was worried about being alone forever, at the end of 51, she asks to stay with kaname and she is over her worries. now kaname is further and further away from her and she asks if she can stay with zero (because they share the same goal).

@ nightmare: nice nice nice interpretation!! Lol XD
Now I don't wannaexclude anything!! ;) very nice Lol XD

Knightmare wrote:The walking out of the dark forest is not a reference to yume as a couple. yuuki is talking about everyone being in the forest. the deep dark forest seems to be a metaphor for their issues, being lost in their problems/worries and not having a path. my friend suggested its about being alone/loneliness. zero chooses to isolate himself and wants no attachments since 43.

[Cut and paste a reposting of Yuuki's thoughts without the dialogue, based on Senbya's notes - repost from LJ]

"Even if we become exhausted in a deep and dark forest,
Ruka-san has Kain-senpai by her side,
so she’ll be OK, that’s what I believe.

We’ve always been wandering around
and searching for an exit in a deep and dark forest.
and now I have nowhere else to go.
While Zero is frozen in chilling darkness,
you are walking further and further away from me, Kaname…
I don’t think you’ll ever twine my hair (in your fingers) again.

Hey, Zero...
If you entrust your body to darkness,
where it is frozen,
then you probably won't feel a thing.

If what's frozen melts, you'll feel the accompanying pain
that was once frozen away.

Despite all that...
Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk
out of this dark forest,
and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves
will shine on the frozen body,

and then .. "

i believe the last bit yuuki is talking about she and zero walking out of the dark forest, since she's talking about getting sun on his frozen body. this is about hope that things will get better and they will get past their issues. so together, they will actually get past their loneliness.

"my beloved is now in a deep dark forest" was the title for 50.
retrospectively an addition to end of 49 was Kaname's words about Yuuki creating a deep dark forest in her heart that grew during the time he had to let go of her

If he is referring to when she became human, the deep dark forest must be referring to Yuuki's insecurities and fears about her lost self and missing memories. Kaname offers to wonder through it together -> to support her. to be with her.

additional to 50,
"one year...has passed...in this deep dark forest".
If the forest started from ten years ago, this seems a funny line.
it makes more sense now, yuuki during that year was worried about being alone forever, at the end of 51, she asks to stay with kaname and she is over her worries. now kaname is further and further away from her and she asks if she can stay with zero (because they share the same goal).

aya-chan wrote: Third, the dark forest is a yume thing, mentioned for the first time at the end of chapter 49 when kaname said to yuuki they would wander together through that dark forest.

The dark forest has no connection with zero

Kaname: Yes…you will be the one who ends up standing in my way. I’ve always known this, Yuuki.

Yuuki (thinking): We’ve always been wandering around and searching for an exit in a deep and dark forest.

If what’s frozen melts, you’ll feel the accompanying pain that was once frozen away.

Li.llium wrote: Those words that Kaname told to Ruka hurt me. Amazing being hurt by something that does not exist, but ok.
I had a huge expectative about his reaction on Ruka. He had no intention of hurting her, it was somewhat accidental. But those words are too painful to say to someone who was beside him, freely. Ruka knew his cruel side, as she had said in past chapters. And I think part of her choice to want to stand next to him was meant to share his suffering.
Ruka does not deserve to hear it. - Although my side "I love Kaname-san" says he may have used this situation to keep her away of his side, I recognize that he may also find that she betrayed him. Because she interfered with his plans without his consent. Ruka does not deserves to think she´s a traitor - a natural consequence of Kaname´s words.

And the more I'm wanting to see a justification for this attitude, here, Kaname so has exceeded the reasonable greatly, that the only worthy option is to bow and ask apologize.

Knightmare wrote:The walking out of the dark forest is not a reference to yume as a couple. yuuki is talking about everyone being in the forest. the deep dark forest seems to be a metaphor for their issues, being lost in their problems/worries and not having a path. my friend suggested its about being alone/loneliness. zero chooses to isolate himself and wants no attachments since 43.

[Cut and paste a reposting of Yuuki's thoughts without the dialogue, based on Senbya's notes - repost from LJ]

"Even if we become exhausted in a deep and dark forest,
Ruka-san has Kain-senpai by her side,
so she’ll be OK, that’s what I believe.

We’ve always been wandering around
and searching for an exit in a deep and dark forest.
and now I have nowhere else to go.
While Zero is frozen in chilling darkness,
you are walking further and further away from me, Kaname…
I don’t think you’ll ever twine my hair (in your fingers) again.

Hey, Zero...
If you entrust your body to darkness,
where it is frozen,
then you probably won't feel a thing.

If what's frozen melts, you'll feel the accompanying pain
that was once frozen away.

Despite all that...
Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk
out of this dark forest,
and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves
will shine on the frozen body,

and then .. "

i believe the last bit yuuki is talking about she and zero walking out of the dark forest, since she's talking about getting sun on his frozen body. this is about hope that things will get better and they will get past their issues. so together, they will actually get past their loneliness.

"my beloved is now in a deep dark forest" was the title for 50.
retrospectively an addition to end of 49 was Kaname's words about Yuuki creating a deep dark forest in her heart that grew during the time he had to let go of her

If he is referring to when she became human, the deep dark forest must be referring to Yuuki's insecurities and fears about her lost self and missing memories. Kaname offers to wonder through it together -> to support her. to be with her.

additional to 50,
"one year...has passed...in this deep dark forest".
If the forest started from ten years ago, this seems a funny line.
it makes more sense now, yuuki during that year was worried about being alone forever, at the end of 51, she asks to stay with kaname and she is over her worries. now kaname is further and further away from her and she asks if she can stay with zero (because they share the same goal).

Knightmare wrote:

[Cut and paste a reposting of Yuuki's thoughts without the dialogue, based on Senbya's notes - repost from LJ]

"Even if we become exhausted in a deep and dark forest,
Ruka-san has Kain-senpai by her side,
so she’ll be OK, that’s what I believe.

We’ve always been wandering around
and searching for an exit in a deep and dark forest.
and now I have nowhere else to go.
While Zero is frozen in chilling darkness,
you are walking further and further away from me, Kaname…
I don’t think you’ll ever twine my hair (in your fingers) again.

Hey, Zero...
If you entrust your body to darkness,
where it is frozen,
then you probably won't feel a thing.

If what's frozen melts, you'll feel the accompanying pain
that was once frozen away.

Despite all that...
Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk
out of this dark forest,
and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves
will shine on the frozen body,

and then .. "

i believe the last bit yuuki is talking about she and zero walking out of the dark forest, since she's talking about getting sun on his frozen body. this is about hope that things will get better and they will get past their issues. so together, they will actually get past their loneliness.

"my beloved is now in a deep dark forest" was the title for 50.
retrospectively an addition to end of 49 was Kaname's words about Yuuki creating a deep dark forest in her heart that grew during the time he had to let go of her

If he is referring to when she became human, the deep dark forest must be referring to Yuuki's insecurities and fears about her lost self and missing memories. Kaname offers to wonder through it together -> to support her. to be with her.

additional to 50,
"one year...has passed...in this deep dark forest".
If the forest started from ten years ago, this seems a funny line.
it makes more sense now, yuuki during that year was worried about being alone forever, at the end of 51, she asks to stay with kaname and she is over her worries. now kaname is further and further away from her and she asks if she can stay with zero (because they share the same goal)

Like Ruka-san, I’m no longer confused. Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk out of this dark forest, and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves will shine on the frozen body, and then…

Li.llium wrote:
And I have broken my heart seeing Zero hearing and seeing Yuki showing her feelings for Kaname. It´s sad realize that there isn´t Zeki per si. If Zeki´ll be going forward the final pair, it is sad that this happened more by Kana´s behavior than Yuki feelings. I don´t understand how Zekis can be happy with it.

Li.llium wrote:


Excuse me, I still have trouble with some English phrases. I'll try to clarify:

1. Yuki wanted to go a step further. Kaname gave up on it.

2. Yuki found very bad things about Kaname. But she still wanted to be by his side.

3. My Kaname.

4. Yuki saw Kaname and Zero fighting, and Kana reaching Ruka. She cuts her hair, because she thinks it will never be a time when Kaname will return to touch in her hair again. Here, she realizes she can not be more with him because he really took a different path.

5. None of the changes related to Yuki's feelings are motivated by Zero. Romantically. She did not think of leaving Kana to stay with Zero or because she has feelings for Zero. She concluded that she and Kaname will no longer be together because Kaname has done things that prevent her from being with him.

6. That is: Zero is not the main reason. And that is sad because I have a taste of the second option here. The "If" is a hypothesis that will always exist in Zeki because "If Kaname had not quit, she would have taken a step further and my Kaname would have been complete.

juliet wrote:

Like Ruka-san, I’m no longer confused. Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk out of this dark forest, and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves will shine on the frozen body, and then…

Again I think that "WE" is a straight reference to her and Kaname for they had been wondering in the dark forest - what is she saying about Zero? that he has frozen and that he was lost and hurt like Ruka...(she says it above) but when they finally get out of it...the consequences again shall have an effect on others..as they did before...i think that's where Hino leaves us...here hanging...

chacile wrote: What she told to Zero was a clear metaphor.. a way to answer Kaname’s question - but actually not answering it. Remember that Kaname asked her what is she going to do to with him,

Before she can think of the things he wanted to do with him, she has to make sure that he is captured by any possible means and this also meant that she has to harden her heart so she won’t waver. That’s why she told Zero that if she’ll entrust her body to the darkness where it is frozen, then you won’t feel a thing. It’s another way of saying that she has to endure all the pain in order to be able to stand against Kaname’s plan and let herself bask on the emotions when everything is done.

If you entrust your body to darkness, where it is frozen, then you probably won’t feel a thing.

(Yuuki thinking about Kaname’s words) What do you want with me after you catch me? (thinking to herself) At that moment my hand flinched.
.
.
Because if I keep thinking about what I’m gonna do with you after I capture you while trying to do it, I will fail.

you are walking further and further away from me, Kaname… I don’t think you’ll ever twine my hair (in your fingers) again.

Like Ruka-san, I’m no longer confused.

If what’s frozen melts, you’ll feel the accompanying pain that was once frozen away.

Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk out of this dark forest, and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves will shine on the frozen body, and then…

Spoiler:

Knightmare wrote:

juliet wrote:

Like Ruka-san, I’m no longer confused. Despite all that, I still believe that one day we can walk out of this dark forest, and beams of sunlight coming through the leaves will shine on the frozen body, and then…

Again I think that "WE" is a straight reference to her and Kaname for they had been wondering in the dark forest - what is she saying about Zero? that he has frozen and that he was lost and hurt like Ruka...(she says it above) but when they finally get out of it...the consequences again shall have an effect on others..as they did before...i think that's where Hino leaves us...here hanging...

i respect that u guys have different interpretations, but i think thats the scan strengthens my interpetations, it shows better how the words/thoughts flow.

Yuuki,s "even so" is a direct response to "if it melts, u'll start hurting." she says it before she address kaname.

"hey zero,
When u abandon yourself to the darkness,
its so freezing cold that you may not feel anything
But if it were to melt
It,ll start hurting
Even so

Even so,
I believe, That someday,
we will be able to get out of this dark forest
And the day that we will be able to warm our frozen bodies under the sun will come
And..."

Looking at that now, it really does seem that she's talking to zero in her thoughts. That we and our might be wrong on that 2nd to last sentence, but it does at least apply to zero getting out into the sun, by getting out of the forest.

I dont think kaname needs to die for zeki. Kaname needs his own resolution and i see that as whatever plagues him from the past being resolved. He doesnt need yuuki, hes proven he can walk away from her for something more important. I think kaname needs to make suree that the hw did not make a meaningless sacrifice and that her wish is fulfilled and after that he can continue to protect ppl like she wanted or put himself to slumber until he is needed again.

However Kaname may have to die to make up for his actions, all the peoples he killed to achieve his goal and its something he may be willing to sacrifice himself for, reaching his goals and then paying the penance.

But i think these characters are no longer so tied to each other they can,t be happy on their own if its abetter path. i think this story is about them getting past fears of loneliness and choosing what makes them happy now, finding themselves and figuring out what they want and embracing it without fear, especially yuuki.

" El amor sangriento del destino . "