knightmare wrote: Zero does say that and he's not wrong that Yuuki was all about Kaname. Whether she needed Kaname emotionally like she needed Zero, is pretty debatable, she clearly relies on Zero heavily for a multitude of reasons and in that, Zero is actually the wrong one for thinking he's not needed. Yuuki's words now also confirm that. Need isn't love though, its just a one facet of attachment and an example of why Yuuki cannot break her bond to Zero. She is only just start starting to confirm she wants Zero, by saying that she wants to talk to him like before and by her action of biting Zero with her fangs, she's fulfilling the idea of taking what she wants with her fangs.
1. Zero is a beloved person for Yuuki, hence and she always will needed him in her life … to have to cut off all the ties or even worse to be enemies with such a person is hurtful.
2. Yuuki’s blood doesn’t lie, no? … Zero had tasted her emotions a lot of times and in fact one of these times he was really pissed cuz he realized that Yuuki wanted to give her blood to Kaname. Furthermore Zero drank her blood and kissed her just before they parted … so I think he has a pretty good idea of Yuuki’s feelings despite whatever Yuuki said for multitude reasons.
3. Yuuki’s wording “why I can’t take what I want with my fangs” is at least blurred on who she was referring to … In the available scanlation Yuuki says …
“All the things that I want I can’t even seize them with my fangs … the thing that I want … No … because that person (aka Kaname) isn’t currently by my side …” >>> meaning that she wants to take Kaname’s blood with her fangs but she can’t do it …
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/73/26http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/73/27… and she continues … even if he hadn’t ask her to drink only his blood she’d do it … is also her wish and will I guess NOW. Also about the infamous phrase “a part of my heart …” >>>
NOW she is thinking that these words were
excessive and
childish.
I don’t know which version is the most accurate yet … but the two available versions (the translation and the scanlation) are quite different … I just wanted to point out the difference …
Also I think they're now beyond the issues of Zero accepting Yuuki's vampire side and differences of opinion aren't a huge barrier as we can see Zero isn't as extreme as he once was. they're both still on the other side of understanding each other, but the wall that was between them is gradually coming down.
How? By blackmailing her that if she won’t drink his blood he’ll smash her school-game right now? Then why Yuuki says “why can’t move forward without hurting each other? Why she feels hurt from Zero’s words and act?
Yuuki says she still has to run from Zero, but this no longer refers to a physical state, so she must mean emotionally she has to keep herself distant from Zero, which suggests more than friendship because there's no need to "run" for her own sake if friendship is all she wants. The alternative reason would be to protect Zero from...hurting him by her association? I wish that Yuuki would elaborate.
Among other reasons as well … maybe she wants to run away from him because as she said they keep hurting each other … from Yuuki’s last words I can’t see that their differences are starting to smooth … at least this is what she believes. And from the sample she has thus far from Zero’s words and actions is a logical conclusion from her part …
Vaille-chan wrote:
1) Yuki says that her thirst will not finish because her heart is connected to Zero.
... But she's always going to drink Kaname's blood, just him...
She’s just
recalling the words she told to Kaname
in the past … she’s not
repeating them as a
current statement … is quite different.
In fact she acknowledges that these words were
excessive and
childish … IMO there is the innuendo that her previous impression that she could not fully quench her thirst cuz a part of her heart was attached to Zero it might have being changed … but still there is space for different interpretations I suppose.
... But she recalls K´s sweet words: "I will kill you ... or you'll kill me" ...
Blackmail
Do you think that Yuuki believed even for a sec that he will kill her????? Or; the meaning of his words was to show her that no matter what she’ll tell him, he forgives her hence and he would prefer the death from her hands if he ever loses her?? IMO is an intensive way to smooth her guilt …
It’s far from blackmail …
2) She (maybe) will drink Z´s blood. Directly across his neck. Intensely.
Sure is more intensely to go for his neck rather to drink from his wrist. But…
1. Still remains to see why she do it, except from her hunger which is a given.
2. When Zero drank from Kaname he did it from his neck no? So can we make the assumption that Zero preferred his neck cuz it was more intensely and the most erotic spot??? Haha … I think no.
Generally the vampires are depicted to drink from the neck cuz from that spot runs the carotid vein which means the larger flow of blood hence and they can quench their thirst faster viz in a more satisfactory way … is an indication for the degree of their thirst … their wild instinct drives them there … So it’s not only out of passion, right?
... BUT ...
After Zero said that he would end the NC if she continues being a coward.
Blackmail
1. Zero said that he’ll smash/destroy her school-game <<< the tone is quite different …
2. He cut his wrist and let the blood flows … for a vampire in starvation like Yuuki is, this is something like compulsion …
So yes … this is a blackmail …
As always, Matsuri always makes things ambiguous. She continues to do scenes that do not override any side. Sincerely, Zekis and Yumes are equal and at the same level. As always.
Things will not be resolved. Things are not more complicated. The story just did not move.
Nice try there … but the two pairings is far from being equals. They never were equal and certainly they aren’t equals currently.
In short …
> Yume is a couple with the emotions clearly stated … romantic love from both sides, whereas Zeki is mostly depicted as an one-sided romantic love!
> Their status … Yuuki is Kaname’s fiancée acknowledged for the whole world … vampires and hunters, whereas Zeki was friends and currently enemies, even if is a fake status considering that they do not hate each other.
> Yume lived for a year under the same roof as a couple, whereas when Zeki were living together were like siblings.
So how and why they are equals???? Not to mention that even IF the romantic feelings were there for Zeki (from both sides), still Yuuki decided to go with Kaname, ergo? Still there is a distance …
The ambiguity is a given, meaning that IF Hino wants to reverses the situation she can do it. But till the ambiguity about the nature of Yuuki’s feelings, dissolved, Zeki is just an unrequited love … For be considered just close to equal we should have at least the same feelings stated, viz Yuuki to be tore between two ROMANTIC loves.
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