Final Betrayal?

Maria Kuran wrote:Well...
we know that perhaps this is an unlikely, but there may be a possibility if we consider it in this way.
1-Takuma, was a friend of Kaname for almost a decade, as Takuma said in chapter 55. "during the ten years i Spent w / kaname ..."
So I think that being friends with a pure blood for so long, had to have given him advantages of their weaknesses and powers ... ect ...
2-Kaname, never had confided their secrets, (as the existence of Yuki) to someone who is left weak and manipulate. So this gives us that maybe we understand the Takuma is stronger than we thought.
3-Kaname, he was never worried that Takuma (The person who knows all his secrets), was with sara, which someone might consider a threat. Kaname always knew where Takuma was.
4-Rima said in Chapter 76. Takuma perhaps this with Sara, to know their plans, to help someone. "didn´t he say he was going to keep an eye on sara-sama so he could be of help to a certain someone..." And this may be true. Recall that Rima is always right, LOL ..
Well here are some things that came into my head while thinking about the poor Takuma ... Perhaps this betrays sarah? I know he is under the effect of the blood of Sara, but requests are only physical, not mental. And maybe kaname told him that there was a way to avoid being controlled by a pure blood or something. Remember that the only ones who know the true powers of the pures bloods are the same pures bloods.

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:Well...
we know that perhaps this is an unlikely, but there may be a possibility if we consider it in this way.
1-Takuma, was a friend of Kaname for almost a decade, as Takuma said in chapter 55. "during the ten years i Spent w / kaname ..."
So I think that being friends with a pure blood for so long, had to have given him advantages of their weaknesses and powers ... ect ...
2-Kaname, never had confided their secrets, (as the existence of Yuki) to someone who is left weak and manipulate. So this gives us that maybe we understand the Takuma is stronger than we thought.
3-Kaname, he was never worried that Takuma (The person who knows all his secrets), was with sara, which someone might consider a threat. Kaname always knew where Takuma was.
4-Rima said in Chapter 76. Takuma perhaps this with Sara, to know their plans, to help someone. "didn´t he say he was going to keep an eye on sara-sama so he could be of help to a certain someone..." And this may be true. Recall that Rima is always right, LOL ..
Well here are some things that came into my head while thinking about the poor Takuma ... Perhaps this betrays sarah? I know he is under the effect of the blood of Sara, but requests are only physical, not mental. And maybe kaname told him that there was a way to avoid being controlled by a pure blood or something. Remember that the only ones who know the true powers of the pures bloods are the same pures bloods.

I can only say(from my oppinion)that Takuma fell in love with Sara,we can see from his labels that he's supporting Sara,i think it's not betrayal,since he just turned sizes...it's difficult to say it...but i don't think he would attack Kaname or anything like that(only talk maybe)...
my my...what can we do if he have fallen in love with a beauttifull woman?:and he's sucking her blood as well...i think someone's behind Sara's plan as well...but Hino won't say us anything...what can we conclude about this?

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:Well...
we know that perhaps this is an unlikely, but there may be a possibility if we consider it in this way.
1-Takuma, was a friend of Kaname for almost a decade, as Takuma said in chapter 55. "during the ten years i Spent w / kaname ..."
So I think that being friends with a pure blood for so long, had to have given him advantages of their weaknesses and powers ... ect ...
2-Kaname, never had confided their secrets, (as the existence of Yuki) to someone who is left weak and manipulate. So this gives us that maybe we understand the Takuma is stronger than we thought.
3-Kaname, he was never worried that Takuma (The person who knows all his secrets), was with sara, which someone might consider a threat. Kaname always knew where Takuma was.
4-Rima said in Chapter 76. Takuma perhaps this with Sara, to know their plans, to help someone. "didn´t he say he was going to keep an eye on sara-sama so he could be of help to a certain someone..." And this may be true. Recall that Rima is always right, LOL ..
Well here are some things that came into my head while thinking about the poor Takuma ... Perhaps this betrays sarah? I know he is under the effect of the blood of Sara, but requests are only physical, not mental. And maybe kaname told him that there was a way to avoid being controlled by a pure blood or something. Remember that the only ones who know the true powers of the pures bloods are the same pures bloods.

I can only say(from my oppinion)that Takuma fell in love with Sara,we can see from his labels that he's supporting Sara,i think it's not betrayal,since he just turned sizes...it's difficult to say it...but i don't think he would attack Kaname or anything like that(only talk maybe)...
my my...what can we do if he have fallen in love with a beauttifull woman?:and he's sucking her blood as well...i think someone's behind Sara's plan as well...but Hino won't say us anything...what can we conclude about this?

If it is, but I think he is not in love with her.
First Test: What he said, I take it then and love / hate. LoL


Pero lo verdad es que Takuma es muy enigmatico, asi que la verdad ni so cuales son sus verdaderas intenciones!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
I can only say(from my oppinion)that Takuma fell in love with Sara,we can see from his labels that he's supporting Sara,i think it's not betrayal,since he just turned sizes...it's difficult to say it...but i don't think he would attack Kaname or anything like that(only talk maybe)...
my my...what can we do if he have fallen in love with a beauttifull woman?:and he's sucking her blood as well...i think someone's behind Sara's plan as well...but Hino won't say us anything...what can we conclude about this?

If it is, but I think he is not in love with her.
First Test: What he said, I take it then and love / hate. LoL

NO!I'm sure he loves her,or he wouldn't suck her blood or ignore Yuuki and the others,but he's sure a mystery...we can only wait to see his intentions...

lililovelilica wrote:Takuma feel pity for Sara:after all she's fighting against Kaname...
he's worried that maybe Sara could die...and leave him lonely

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Takuma feel pity for Sara:after all she's fighting against Kaname...
he's worried that maybe Sara could die...and leave him lonely

But he also can do the right thing ... Well even not know about the true intentions of Takuma! But I think that he would be him who kills sara and not Kaname, Well that's just my humble assumption ... But the still mysteries around...

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Takuma feel pity for Sara:after all she's fighting against Kaname...
he's worried that maybe Sara could die...and leave him lonely

But he also can do the right thing ... Well even not know about the true intentions of Takuma! But I think that he would be him who kills sara and not Kaname, Well that's just my humble assumption ... But the still mysteries around...

well...i can't imagine Takuma killing Sara,even if it's Kaname's orders...but he won't killl Kaname either...Ichijou already Killed his uncle?father?anyway that guy Called Ichiou...
Takuma's NOT EVIL!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

But he also can do the right thing ... Well even not know about the true intentions of Takuma! But I think that he would be him who kills sara and not Kaname, Well that's just my humble assumption ... But the still mysteries around...

well...i can't imagine Takuma killing Sara,even if it's Kaname's orders...but he won't killl Kaname either...Ichijou already Killed his uncle?father?anyway that guy Called Ichiou...
Takuma's NOT EVIL!

No he is not, for that reason i love him to, but maybe he can do a favor to us, by killing that of sara!!! N everyone is going to by happy!!!

but:
As you said he killed at his own grandfather to do the right thing this tells us that maybe he kill Sara by doing the right thing. Although this also applies to supocision Conversely, much as it can kill Sara, also can "try" to kill Kaname ..

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
well...i can't imagine Takuma killing Sara,even if it's Kaname's orders...but he won't killl Kaname either...Ichijou already Killed his uncle?father?anyway that guy Called Ichiou...
Takuma's NOT EVIL!

No he is not, for that reason i love him to, but maybe he can do a favor to us, by killing that of sara!!! N everyone is going to by happy!!!

but:
As you said he killed at his own grandfather to do the right thing this tells us that maybe he kill Sara by doing the right thing. Although this also applies to supocision Conversely, much as it can kill Sara, also can "try" to kill Kaname ..

I think that now that he sucked a LOT of Sara's blood,he's under her control...so if she ordered him to Kill Kaname,he would actually do that?
need to read more... then i will give you a more correct answer.

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

No he is not, for that reason i love him to, but maybe he can do a favor to us, by killing that of sara!!! N everyone is going to by happy!!!

but:
As you said he killed at his own grandfather to do the right thing this tells us that maybe he kill Sara by doing the right thing. Although this also applies to supocision Conversely, much as it can kill Sara, also can "try" to kill Kaname ..

I think that now that he sucked a LOT of Sara's blood,he's under her control...so if she ordered him to Kill Kaname,he would actually do that?
need to read more... then i will give you a more correct answer.

No, I think he really attacked Kaname if sara ask him ... But we know that Kaname does not let anyone stop him ... so maybe you know that Kaname, avoid him (not kill him in my thoughts) and left in the hands of Ruka and Kain ... That's my supocicion, but if we get to Shiki, Rima come into play, because if they stayed in the team of Sara, Rima stay with Yuki / alias shiki rescue at all costs, no matter if you join Kaname to ward off Takuma and Shiki away from the compulsion of Sarah.? You get my point?

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

If it is, but I think he is not in love with her.
First Test: What he said, I take it then and love / hate. LoL

who would love someone like sara i mean she is evil but i will say she is very prtty but yuki is prttyer than sara

NO!I'm sure he loves her,or he wouldn't suck her blood or ignore Yuuki and the others,but he's sure a mystery...we can only wait to see his intentions...

who would love sara she is pretty shure but yuki(in my apition) is prettyer
Yes, well I think he's in love, but love is different for everyone, perhaps it is doing the right thing with that loved one ...

lililovelilica wrote:Yuuki's pretier...but Sara's smarter...what a competition!

lililovelilica wrote:Yuuki's pretier...but Sara's smarter...what a competition!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Yuuki's pretier...but Sara's smarter...what a competition!

Jajaja, yes you are right, but Yuki has somebody that can support. Kaname! That is intelligent, agile and beautiful! Had ever seen! So get over it looks like Sara. Together do a great couple!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:Yuuki's pretier...but Sara's smarter...what a competition!

Jajaja, yes you are right, but Yuki has somebody that can support. Kaname! That is intelligent, agile and beautiful! Had ever seen! So get over it looks like Sara. Together do a great couple!!!

Yuuki needs Kaname
and Kaname can't live without his little bird who can give him some color in his gray life...

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

Jajaja, yes you are right, but Yuki has somebody that can support. Kaname! That is intelligent, agile and beautiful! Had ever seen! So get over it looks like Sara. Together do a great couple!!!

Yuuki needs Kaname
and Kaname can't live without his little bird who can give him some color in his gray life...

yes that´s a good definicion!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
Yuuki needs Kaname
and Kaname can't live without his little bird who can give him some color in his gray life...

yes that´s a good definicion!!!

thanks but it's not just mine(it's my mothers opinion too!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

yes that´s a good definicion!!!

thanks but it's not just mine(it's my mothers opinion too!

oh!!! oh well, say thanks to your mother too!!! jajajja

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
thanks but it's not just mine(it's my mothers opinion too!

oh!!! oh well, say thanks to your mother too!!! jajajja

Already said...and my mom said that she prefers a Yume HAPPY ENDING as well...she thinks Kaname looks like Edward from the Twilight movie....so he should be with Yuuki...she said me that:-"They love each other...i can clearly see that...so she should marry him and end this love triangle just like Bella did it staying with Edward and saying she's sorry to Jacob."
aw how cute!i said^^
i think she's right

Katherine wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

oh!!! oh well, say thanks to your mother too!!! jajajja

Already said...and my mom said that she prefers a Yume HAPPY ENDING as well...she thinks Kaname looks like Edward from the Twilight movie....so he should be with Yuuki...she said me that:-"They love each other...i can clearly see that...so she should marry him and end this love triangle just like Bella did it staying with Edward and saying she's sorry to Jacob."
aw how cute!i said^^
i think she's right

sorry but I think my head seems to explode everytime someone compares Twilight and Vampire Knight..It´s just so urghh...Twilight is so annoying in my eyes (only personl opinion)
VK has a much more dramatic story and I don´t think you can compare the main characters,

f.e:
Yuuki <--> Bella: Yuuki was weak like Bella once but now she fights and takes action! Bella only protects others in her mind-bubble or how others call it...Bella only becomes a vampire, her age doesn´t change anymore and she won some abilities but Yuuki´s change is bigger in my eyes...by turning her she understands that Kaname is her brother ( xy) she has a new position and a lot of problems start

Zero <--> Jacob...Zero is alone and feels dissapointed...he had a terrible past and searches for revenge...Jacob lived together with Bill...he had a normich childhood...he turned then and got new friends but lost (temporary) Bella...he found her again and fells in love with her daughter...Zero is on a low step in the vampire hierachy, he is not accepted by every hunter (especially at the beginning)...he sees how the girl he loves fell in love with his greatest enemy (well Jacob and Edward started to like each other at least a little bit)...

Kaname <--> Edward: That Kaname is awesome should be enough...I don´t want to point out some differences, Edward would cry on the floor^^

lililovelilica wrote:

Katherine wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
Already said...and my mom said that she prefers a Yume HAPPY ENDING as well...she thinks Kaname looks like Edward from the Twilight movie....so he should be with Yuuki...she said me that:-"They love each other...i can clearly see that...so she should marry him and end this love triangle just like Bella did it staying with Edward and saying she's sorry to Jacob."
aw how cute!i said^^
i think she's right

sorry but I think my head seems to explode everytime someone compares Twilight and Vampire Knight..It´s just so urghh...Twilight is so annoying in my eyes (only personl opinion)
VK has a much more dramatic story and I don´t think you can compare the main characters,

f.e:
Yuuki <--> Bella: Yuuki was weak like Bella once but now she fights and takes action! Bella only protects others in her mind-bubble or how others call it...Bella only becomes a vampire, her age doesn´t change anymore and she won some abilities but Yuuki´s change is bigger in my eyes...by turning her she understands that Kaname is her brother ( xy) she has a new position and a lot of problems start

Zero <--> Jacob...Zero is alone and feels dissapointed...he had a terrible past and searches for revenge...Jacob lived together with Bill...he had a normich childhood...he turned then and got new friends but lost (temporary) Bella...he found her again and fells in love with her daughter...Zero is on a low step in the vampire hierachy, he is not accepted by every hunter (especially at the beginning)...he sees how the girl he loves fell in love with his greatest enemy (well Jacob and Edward started to like each other at least a little bit)...

Kaname <--> Edward: That Kaname is awesome should be enough...I don´t want to point out some differences, Edward would cry on the floor^^

I think that everyone have their own opinion about the characters and i'm not bashing anyone...i'm just stating my feelings and opinions about the couples...i konw they're different somehow...but the love triabgle (it seems the same to me)....

Katherine wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Katherine wrote:



sorry but I think my head seems to explode everytime someone compares Twilight and Vampire Knight..It´s just so urghh...Twilight is so annoying in my eyes (only personl opinion)
VK has a much more dramatic story and I don´t think you can compare the main characters,

f.e:
Yuuki <--> Bella: Yuuki was weak like Bella once but now she fights and takes action! Bella only protects others in her mind-bubble or how others call it...Bella only becomes a vampire, her age doesn´t change anymore and she won some abilities but Yuuki´s change is bigger in my eyes...by turning her she understands that Kaname is her brother ( xy) she has a new position and a lot of problems start

Zero <--> Jacob...Zero is alone and feels dissapointed...he had a terrible past and searches for revenge...Jacob lived together with Bill...he had a normich childhood...he turned then and got new friends but lost (temporary) Bella...he found her again and fells in love with her daughter...Zero is on a low step in the vampire hierachy, he is not accepted by every hunter (especially at the beginning)...he sees how the girl he loves fell in love with his greatest enemy (well Jacob and Edward started to like each other at least a little bit)...

Kaname <--> Edward: That Kaname is awesome should be enough...I don´t want to point out some differences, Edward would cry on the floor^^

I think that everyone have their own opinion about the characters and i'm not bashing anyone...i'm just stating my feelings and opinions about the couples...i konw they're different somehow...but the love triabgle (it seems the same to me)....

I haven´t said that you´re bashing I only felt like posting my opinion because I think that there is a huge difference...yes ther is a love triangle but in my eyes there is not relly much more that is similar in VK... you have your opinion I have mine, by presenting my arguments I´m not bashing, these are my reasons ;) so don´t feel attacted