zeki after 83

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i had to re-edit it as i myself found it really stupid.so now my ques is,can zeki in future chapters become a romantic couple or like a lovey dovey main couple??

Well i don't know if it will be a yume or a zeki ending but the only thing i really want is for zero to be happy and not suffer anymore . i really don't care how but i want him happy...and lucky you are not the one who cares about anime characters!!! i feel so so so so so so so sorry for zero ! i mean yesterday i watched an episode from vampire knight for the second time and i was so surprised at how much zero loves yuuki and how much he is suffering seeing her together with kaname ...i mean i knew it but i wasn't aware of how many feelings can you impart just with words...anyway i believe that the ending will be tragic for everyone but i hope that it wil be a zeki one!!!!

Neither Zero or Kaname will have complete happiness in VK. For me, the one who Yuki really loves, that person will die. I think it's Kaname.

Zero. The sacrifice of Juuri.Kaien. Well, I'm not really worried about his status. I think Zero will survive in the end.

Li.llium wrote:Neither Zero or Kaname will have complete happiness in VK. For me, the one who Yuki really loves, that person will die. I think it's Kaname.

Zero. The sacrifice of Juuri.Kaien. Well, I'm not really worried about his status. I think Zero will survive in the end.

i think you will not die because from the first chap it was all about protecting yuuki and blah blah.so when yuuki is not going to die she will end up with someone.
now...
1-she can end up with kaname though i don't see it happening.
2-she lost her immortality and yuuki and zero becomes endgame.
3-zero became mortal somehow by sacrifice and again duh zeki endgame.
4-zeki becomes humans.

kaname is going to die,there are 99% chances of this and yuuki will kill him because he can't die from anyone else hands.
so,
all things leads to zeki endgame,i hate hino matsuri for doing thing to yume,when she wanted to make a zeki ending why she gave us hope for yume??

lucykaede wrote:

Li.llium wrote:Neither Zero or Kaname will have complete happiness in VK. For me, the one who Yuki really loves, that person will die. I think it's Kaname.

Zero. The sacrifice of Juuri.Kaien. Well, I'm not really worried about his status. I think Zero will survive in the end.

i think you will not die because from the first chap it was all about protecting yuuki and blah blah.so when yuuki is not going to die she will end up with someone.
now...
1-she can end up with kaname though i don't see it happening.
2-she lost her immortality and yuuki and zero becomes endgame.
3-zero became mortal somehow by sacrifice and again duh zeki endgame.
4-zeki becomes humans.

kaname is going to die,there are 99% chances of this and yuuki will kill him because he can't die from anyone else hands.
so,
all things leads to zeki endgame,i hate hino matsuri for doing thing to yume,when she wanted to make a zeki ending why she gave us hope for yume??

Calm down, it's alright there are still a few chapters left. ^^; You can't give up just because something good happened for Zeki this chapter. I'm a Zeki and though I hope for it my opinion is always at 50/50 for chance of yume or zeki endgame. anything could happen from now until the end. And no I don't believe that anyone will be turned back into a human...^^; Just anticipate the next chapter if you love the series so much, like i do ^^ Things will even out in the end... Hino wouldn't leave things unsolved, but don't forget that the LT isn't the most important thing.... Yuuki may not even choose one of the guys, she doesn't have to. Things could stay like they are, her being Zero's ally and chasing Kaname until he is stopped ( this doesn't mean he will die, though it's a possibility).

Shoujo-Zo18 wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

Li.llium wrote:Neither Zero or Kaname will have complete happiness in VK. For me, the one who Yuki really loves, that person will die. I think it's Kaname.

Zero. The sacrifice of Juuri.Kaien. Well, I'm not really worried about his status. I think Zero will survive in the end.

i think you will not die because from the first chap it was all about protecting yuuki and blah blah.so when yuuki is not going to die she will end up with someone.
now...
1-she can end up with kaname though i don't see it happening.
2-she lost her immortality and yuuki and zero becomes endgame.
3-zero became mortal somehow by sacrifice and again duh zeki endgame.
4-zeki becomes humans.

kaname is going to die,there are 99% chances of this and yuuki will kill him because he can't die from anyone else hands.
so,
all things leads to zeki endgame,i hate hino matsuri for doing thing to yume,when she wanted to make a zeki ending why she gave us hope for yume??

Calm down, it's alright there are still a few chapters left. ^^; You can't give up just because something good happened for Zeki this chapter. I'm a Zeki and though I hope for it my opinion is always at 50/50 for chance of yume or zeki endgame. anything could happen from now until the end. And no I don't believe that anyone will be turned back into a human...^^; Just anticipate the next chapter if you love the series so much, like i do ^^ Things will even out in the end... Hino wouldn't leave things unsolved, but don't forget that the LT isn't the most important thing.... Yuuki may not even choose one of the guys, she doesn't have to. Things could stay like they are, her being Zero's ally and chasing Kaname until he is stopped ( this doesn't mean he will die, though it's a possibility).

i don't know about endgame but right now yume is 0bviously dead and about zeki well they are together not romantically but for same goals and ie to kill kaname because i don't think anyone can capture kaname without killing him.

i don't think zeki can ever be a romantic couple but hino is very very unpredictable,she is the one who knows the end but it seems very unlikely and unnatural if she makes zeki as an endgame.

lucykaede wrote:

Rikana-hime wrote:@Lucky: I think you should relax. Cause this manga is also have "Drama" not only "Tragedy". Everything hasnt ended yet and anything can still happen => That's what I believe now

right but i am a person who can't take so so much drama because i am a adorable who cares for cartoon characters.
wow,i found myself extremely weird ,how you guys are handling me??

I find what you said wierd. If you can't handle drama why are you reading this?

SilverAngel wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

Rikana-hime wrote:@Lucky: I think you should relax. Cause this manga is also have "Drama" not only "Tragedy". Everything hasnt ended yet and anything can still happen => That's what I believe now

right but i am a person who can't take so so much drama because i am a adorable who cares for cartoon characters.
wow,i found myself extremely weird ,how you guys are handling me??

I find what you said wierd. If you can't handle drama why are you reading this?

vampire knight is addicting

kanamekuranlover wrote:

SilverAngel wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

right but i am a person who can't take so so much drama because i am a adorable who cares for cartoon characters.
wow,i found myself extremely weird ,how you guys are handling me??

I find what you said wierd. If you can't handle drama why are you reading this?

vampire knight is addicting

Can't argue there!

SilverAngel wrote:

kanamekuranlover wrote:

SilverAngel wrote:

I find what you said wierd. If you can't handle drama why are you reading this?

vampire knight is addicting

Can't argue there!

absolutely,hino having drawbacks in the story still writes brilliantly.i wish she developed the characters more though. can't believe there are so many votes for yes.i mean there are still no signs for them being an official couple.

kanamekuranlover wrote:

SilverAngel wrote:

kanamekuranlover wrote:

vampire knight is addicting

Can't argue there!

absolutely,hino having drawbacks in the story still writes brilliantly.i wish she developed the characters more though. can't believe there are so many votes for yes.i mean there are still no signs for them being an official couple.

well teh yes-votes are wishes and maybe it becomes true...but I don´t see a yes yet and I wouldn´t be satisfied if it ends this way...when she wants a Zeki-ending I want some clear scenes ( I think we deserve it if she wants to end VK with this couple)

Katherine wrote:

kanamekuranlover wrote:

SilverAngel wrote:

Can't argue there!

absolutely,hino having drawbacks in the story still writes brilliantly.i wish she developed the characters more though. can't believe there are so many votes for yes.i mean there are still no signs for them being an official couple.

well teh yes-votes are wishes and maybe it becomes true...but I don´t see a yes yet and I wouldn´t be satisfied if it ends this way...when she wants a Zeki-ending I want some clear scenes ( I think we deserve it if she wants to end VK with this couple)

yeah if hino wants to end it up as a zeki endgame,she should fairly develop things between them, i did not read a single romantic quote from either yuuki or zero since that my heart is attached chapter and then that chapter was beasts madly in love.things should develop for a zeki endgame otherwise it would look hell absurd and zeki biased.

what i made at least from Yuuki's incoherent speech or Hino's poetic attempt in the last chapter was that Yuuki still had hopes...now if that was only for Yume, all for all of them, little difference it makes, since her intention was and is to protect HER kaname as she stated and thus probably wishing for all to have a good end...

this chapter the yume fans had a good dose of Yuukish LOL effects...can't complain...

and Maria's hint, I do not consider it an accident, I do not see why we have to overview such points> if Hino has no intention to develop Zeria why is she throwing this stuff in?

after all who insists here conquers at the end > kain and Ruka for example

Kaname that took back Yuuki...

Is it bad a Zeria ending for the Zeki fans (including Zero's happiness of course in there)...

yes back to the question I agree we need very solid proofs that shall revert what Yuuki has said and think in the last chapters considering her views about Kaname or her feelings to be totally demolished, but I do not see it yet..example she recognizes every little action that Kaname does like protecting her, she wonders "why", she questions his sayings and is throwing at his face that he cares about her (you can not kill me).

On the other hand still her interaction with Zero are limited to more subtle attitudes...they need many progress and the main fact is that yume still holds attraction vibes there even fighting....so...yes, Hino needs (IMO) too much work to revert what has been done here...

juliet wrote:what i made at least from Yuuki's incoherent speech or Hino's poetic attempt in the last chapter was that Yuuki still had hopes...now if that was only for Yume, all for all of them, little difference it makes, since her intention was and is to protect HER kaname as she stated and thus probably wishing for all to have a good end...

this chapter the yume fans had a good dose of Yuukish LOL effects...can't complain...

and Maria's hint, I do not consider it an accident, I do not see why we have to overview such points> if Hino has no intention to develop Zeria why is she throwing this stuff in?

after all who insists here conquers at the end > kain and Ruka for example

Kaname that took back Yuuki...

Is it bad a Zeria ending for the Zeki fans (including Zero's happiness of course in there)...

yes back to the question I agree we need very solid proofs that shall revert what Yuuki has said and think in the last chapters considering her views about Kaname or her feelings to be totally demolished, but I do not see it yet..example she recognizes every little action that Kaname does like protecting her, she wonders "why", she questions his sayings and is throwing at his face that he cares about her (you can not kill me).

On the other hand still her interaction with Zero are limited to more subtle attitudes...they need many progress and the main fact is that yume still holds attraction vibes there even fighting....so...yes, Hino needs (IMO) too much work to revert what has been done here...

i absolutely agree juliet,after all this a zeki ending would be pathetic and a total slap to yumes,i wish to develop zeki if hino decided zeki as a final couple.i can digest a good zeki ending if zeki truly love each other.zero loves yuuki,i don't deny it at all and yuuki obviously cares for zero very deeply but they have their own contradictions.zero hates purebloods,he wants to kill kaname who is brother,fiancee and ancestor of kaname,even after his tragedy yuuki still wishes an alive kaname,yuuki saying that she is not confused anymore and her actions in recent chapter points to yume.i am still not totally rejecting a zeki endgame,it can happen if hino wants but she has to develop some romantic feelings between them like yuuki abandoning kaname as she realized zero is the only one for her,will yuuki be able to do that??Will she be brave enough to kill kaname??the possibilties for now are totally nil.

and on zeria part,maria and zero are very cute together.

juliet wrote:what i made at least from Yuuki's incoherent speech or Hino's poetic attempt in the last chapter was that Yuuki still had hopes...now if that was only for Yume, all for all of them, little difference it makes, since her intention was and is to protect HER kaname as she stated and thus probably wishing for all to have a good end...

this chapter the yume fans had a good dose of Yuukish LOL effects...can't complain...

Err...this is gonna sound dumb but what's Yuukish? I've heard a few ppl mention it before but I have no idea what it means.

On the topic: I don't know what it was about Ch83 but a lot of Zekis were assuming Yuuki was going to kill Kaname and elope with Zero or something. This is VK things are never what they seem and well I still see Yuuki standing by Zero as his ally. I love that part of Zeki's relationship. It's like Zero's her best friend and Kaname is her lover, at least that's how I view it.

i will try to be logical here,we all know yuuki's feelings for kaname extremely well,she can try to stop him but can never kill him as he wants.her feelings for zero are hidden by hino,she never clarifies what she thinks of him.i remember in a very early chapter when zeki went to a market,maybe yuuki said that they were like bro and sis but i can be wrong as its been months since i read that chapter,but they are not like bro as sis because zero's feelings are obviously romantic.in end its gonna be yuuki who will choose her hub.there is a virtue in both zero and kaname that they don't meddle in their relationship with yuuki,when zero was with yuuki kaname visited yuuki but never interfered in their friendship same goes with zero,he never tried to stop kaname from visiting yuuki and other cheap things like in twilight,both guys knows what yuuki wants.so............its entirely on yuuki to choose and we don't know her clear feelings towards zero as hino never drew any,so wait and watch.don't even discuss because zekis are gonna defend their ship and yume's theirs.absolutely no use.

kanamekuranlover wrote:
zekis are gonna defend their ship and yume's theirs

Agreed It'll always be that way. Of course everyone will support their own ship; that's totally fine. It can be interesting to see what both parties take from each new chapter

ButterflyWingsx wrote:
Err...this is gonna sound dumb but what's Yuukish? I've heard a few ppl mention it before but I have no idea what it means.

Don't worry, it doesn't sound 'dumb' at all. It's a valid question

Adding 'ish' just means 'resembling' or 'in a style like..'.
Yuuki-ish means 'similar to Yuuki'. Kaname described her battle butterflies as being Yuuki-ish. By saying this, he is comparing Yuuki's personality to a butterfly. Butterflies aren't a feared creature at all. On the contrary, they are quite peaceful and gentle (ordinarily). The words he actually used to describe them were 'creatures that like light'. Light is associated with goodness.

"So your double is made of butterflies…You chose the form of a creature that likes light. It's very Yuuki-ish."

Essentially, Kaname seems to think that butterflies complement Yuuki's personality well.

ButterflyWingsx wrote:
This is VK things are never what they seem and well I still see Yuuki standing by Zero as his ally. I love that part of Zeki's relationship. It's like Zero's her best friend and Kaname is her lover, at least that's how I view it.

Exactly, wonderfully said The dynamics between them all have changed over the course of the story, but I think that this is how it stands at the moment.

Yuuki has always loved Kaname in a romantic way, while Yori and Zero have always been her closest friends. So Yuuki cares about both Kaname and Zero; but in different ways I think.

(Obviously there is a little repairing to do with Yuuki's relationships between Kaname and Zero respectively at the moment, but I still believe that's how it is with them all )

But, to be fair to Zeki fans as well, this is just a general idea of how things are right now. There are still chapters ahead of us and the story it's entirely possible that relationships might change. We won't know for sure until VK reaches its conclusion. Perhaps we should all 'expect the unexpected'. It's Hino who is controlling the direction of the story, after all...

kanamekuranlover wrote:don't even discuss because zekis are gonna defend their ship and yume's theirs.absolutely no use.

Well, forums are made for discussions after all, I don't see the harm in discussing things. Whether Zekis or Yumes defend their sides it's no reason to not discuss things in the story. I'd say it's no use if you're trying to convert someone to like your pairing. It's also no use if there's no real argument just bashing from one side. Like such and such character suck they should die...you can't really get a discussion or debate from comments like that. Most people are close-minded when it comes to ships they'll only see what they want to see it's like that in almost every fandom.

I favor Yume but it's not like I hate the Zeki ship, though it might appear so when I'm defending Kaname/Yume. I'm more irritated with some of the fans than the pairing itself. I actually do find some Zeki moments cute in manga but Yume moments always have a greater effect on me, thus why I love Yume so much.

Kara wrote:Adding 'ish' just means 'resembling' or 'in a style like..'.Yuuki-ish means 'similar to Yuuki'. Kaname described her battle butterflies as being Yuuki-ish. By saying this, he is comparing Yuuki's personality to a butterfly. Butterflies aren't a feared creature at all. On the contrary, they are quite peaceful and gentle (ordinarily). The words he actually used to describe them were 'creatures that like light'. Light is associated with goodness.

Oh wow, now I really feel that question was dumb. I don't know why I read the word differently instead of like Yuuki-ish. I just realized it was Yuuki and ish added at the end to mean Yuuki like. Thanks for explaining!

Right now both ships are at a crucial time in the story. I've been seeing the story going Zeki for a while now, but what could sink that ship is a reconciliation between Kaname and Yuuki. In all honesty, both ships need to work out their issues still. Zeki has started off by deciding to be a team and work together, now it's all up to Yume to start to work out theirs too. I still find an equal chance for both, but like I said, I'm still seeing the story favoring Zeki at the moment.

From what I've seen in this chapter, the story is favoring Yume. Neither of the Kurans were battling each other. And while Sara tries to kill Kaname, Yuuki was there to hug him while the mother metal had injured the evil pureblood who wants to become queen.

KuranPrince wrote:From what I've seen in this chapter, the story is favoring Yume. Neither of the Kurans were battling each other. And while Sara tries to kill Kaname, Yuuki was there to hug him while the mother metal had injured the evil pureblood who wants to become queen.

it can be just a treat for yume and in next chapter kaname again rejects yuuki,its a high possibility,kaname wants to kill himself,he obviously will hurt yuuki again emotionally.

kanamekuranlover wrote:it can be just a treat for yume and in next chapter kaname again rejects yuuki,its a high possibility,kaname wants to kill himself, he obviously will hurt yuuki again emotionally.

Remember the scene between Kaname & Yuuki? It wasn't even close to a battle scene. He knows he can't Yuuki either physically or emotionally. His fiancee is the only being that shines his darkest hour.

KuranPrince wrote:

kanamekuranlover wrote:it can be just a treat for yume and in next chapter kaname again rejects yuuki,its a high possibility,kaname wants to kill himself, he obviously will hurt yuuki again emotionally.

Remember the scene between Kaname & Yuuki? It wasn't even close to a battle scene. He knows he can't Yuuki either physically or emotionally. His fiancee is the only being that shines his darkest hour.

yes,he can't hurt her but he previously stated that he abandoned her,i know a little optimism is good but i don't wanna keep myself in hopes because i have a fear of these hopes getting shattered,chapter 83 was no treat to yumes.

There's always hope... not to mention the Hunters' lack of cooperation and knowledge. I understand about your comment, but I'm sure that it won't be a tragedy. But instead, there's hope. Remember the butterflies.

Dragonsrose15 wrote:Right now both ships are at a crucial time in the story. I've been seeing the story going Zeki for a while now, but what could sink that ship is a reconciliation between Kaname and Yuuki. In all honesty, both ships need to work out their issues still. Zeki has started off by deciding to be a team and work together, now it's all up to Yume to start to work out theirs too. I still find an equal chance for both, but like I said, I'm still seeing the story favoring Zeki at the moment.

My thoughts exactly! :O It seems that zeki is getting good but yume still has a chance if they "kiss and make up" as the phrase goes...xD

i too agree, because of all that's going on, i think that zeki is on its way to being 'real' and yume still needs some 'fixer-uppers'.