Ιf not Yuuki then who do you expect Zero to be with?

First topic message reminder :

I know it's a bit early to talk about the end...but i could not resist asking or initializing a discussion on the subject.

I also understand that this can be viewed as a debate at the aspect if Zeki has chances or not, but this is merely a question that is about how Zero's and Vk's fans in general would expect Zero to be, if Zero-Yuuki, does not happen after all.

What do you think about it? Would you be happy with Maria or Yori for Zero? would you prefer Zero to be alone or would you prefer another possible mate?

For example I do see a lack here; Zero is a hunter so in order to expand his lineage (of the Kiryu's hunter) he also needs a hunter girl (that I do not see existing right now in the script). So that means that Zero's lineage will cease to exist? wouldn't that also be unfair?

The other options for zero in my opinion are either yori or maria.
I favour Maria more than yori as a possible romantic interest for zero. I see them having more common ground mostly due to ichiru.
I see maria as being similar to ichiru really. They both had weak bodies from birth. Zero may feel protective of her, like he was of his own brother when they were little.
Also with maria being a vampire she will live longer by Zero's side. Zero would have to go through yori dieing sooner if he was with her and he's been through enough heart ache as it is.
So i would have to go with Maria being with Zero. (though i am always available if he wants! lol)

I love the thought of Zero and Maria now. I'd definetely want him to find a way to be with her if zeki doesn't happen. If not with her, then some cool huntress as the HA will use him as a breeder, heh XD But "Zera" all the way. I think she'd be good for him. And they both have silver hair, so they'd be a nice physical match too XD

I still say I would like to see zero with sara, just for the bad puppy "cracks whip" scenes.
Then again maybe maria would be even better in that role, the quite ones usually are.
Zero sees yuki walk by and goes to run towerds her, maria tugs on the his collar and goes bad puppy "cracks whip" lol

I don't think that Zero's gonna pair with someone else...but then again maybe I'm wrong? Haha...it would be nice if Yuuki and Zero got together but then what would happen to Kaname? And besides Yuuki's a pureblood...Zero hates them. Anyway i don't think that zero's interested in any kind of relationship right now, too busy slaughtering vampires at night to make up for his thirst =.= poor Zero... although Yori is a possibility...o.o

Single or...Sara-sama. I like, KanamexYuki, SaraxZero. Zero can capture the heart of this PureBlood.He can tame this woman.

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Ok, Zero doesn´t has any flame for other woman, so, I don´t see him with other girl. He doesn´t "see" Maria yet.

He´ll be like Kaien.

Li.llium wrote:Single or...Sara-sama. I like, KanamexYuki, SaraxZero. Zero can capture the heart of this PureBlood.He can tame this woman.

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Ok, Zero doesn´t has any flame for other woman, so, I don´t see him with other girl. He doesn´t "see" Maria yet.

He´ll be like Kaien.

Really!? I've never thought at that possibility....zero and sara.... Mmmhh.... But I prefer to see zerowith maria...I mean do you remember when maria goes to zero (while he's resting in the cross accademy's 'park') and she couldn't return to the moon's dorm 'cause she lost?! Ok then, she felt sick...and zero helped her, and took her with his strong arms.... Maria is similar to Ichiru, and this similiarity isn't indifferent to zero... This is my opinion...^^

kialovejapan wrote:

Li.llium wrote:Single or...Sara-sama. I like, KanamexYuki, SaraxZero. Zero can capture the heart of this PureBlood.He can tame this woman.

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Ok, Zero doesn´t has any flame for other woman, so, I don´t see him with other girl. He doesn´t "see" Maria yet.

He´ll be like Kaien.

Really!? I've never thought at that possibility....zero and sara.... Mmmhh.... But I prefer to see zerowith maria...I mean do you remember when maria goes to zero (while he's resting in the cross accademy's 'park') and she couldn't return to the moon's dorm 'cause she lost?! Ok then, she felt sick...and zero helped her, and took her with his strong arms.... Maria is similar to Ichiru, and this similiarity isn't indifferent to zero... This is my opinion...^^

Ah, those wonderful strong and shapely arms that a hunter must have
...

It's a possibility, I don´t discount. And Maria is a sweetheart. I just think that even he did not show any desire to bite her, I do not know if you understand the second intention here.

Now, yes. I really have this feeling. With Maria, Zero will be comforted because she brings back memories about Ichiru. It is as if he could recover the other half. Sweet.

Li.llium wrote:

kialovejapan wrote:

Li.llium wrote:Single or...Sara-sama. I like, KanamexYuki, SaraxZero. Zero can capture the heart of this PureBlood.He can tame this woman.

._.

Ok, Zero doesn´t has any flame for other woman, so, I don´t see him with other girl. He doesn´t "see" Maria yet.

He´ll be like Kaien.

Really!? I've never thought at that possibility....zero and sara.... Mmmhh.... But I prefer to see zerowith maria...I mean do you remember when maria goes to zero (while he's resting in the cross accademy's 'park') and she couldn't return to the moon's dorm 'cause she lost?! Ok then, she felt sick...and zero helped her, and took her with his strong arms.... Maria is similar to Ichiru, and this similiarity isn't indifferent to zero... This is my opinion...^^

Ah, those wonderful strong and shapely arms that a hunter must have
...

It's a possibility, I don´t discount. And Maria is a sweetheart. I just think that even he did not show any desire to bite her, I do not know if you understand the second intention here.

Now, yes. I really have this feeling. With Maria, Zero will be comforted because she brings back memories about Ichiru. It is as if he could recover the other half. Sweet.

I think that Hino-sensei didn't make this (Ichiru and Maria health) casually...there is a deeply connection..maybe maria is the zero's helper-saviour...look also the name that Hino-sensei choose for Maria...I know it's a bit religious...it's also a strange name towards kaname, yuki, hanabusa, shiki,rima, seiren, kain and others characters....^^

Sara? that would be odd...He doesnt like her. Obviously purebloods and him dont mix, not even Yuuki and him, whom he seemed to love when she was a human...

If anyone Maria? He doesnt treat her totally like a beast in human form...o zero...

[quote="kialovejapan"][quote="Li.llium"]

kialovejapan wrote:

I think that Hino-sensei didn't make this (Ichiru and Maria health) casually...there is a deeply connection..maybe maria is the zero's helper-saviour...look also the name that Hino-sensei choose for Maria...I know it's a bit religious...it's also a strange name towards kaname, yuki, hanabusa, shiki,rima, seiren, kain and others characters....^^

Interestingly, in first arc I always wondered why Maria was born weak. She´s a noble. Oddly enough, as Ichiru. It explained why Ichiru is weak, but the case of Maria isn´t detailed. However, as Hino gave no development on this issue, I consider it now, a little random. It's a pity. I was hoping this point be developed from Zero´s perspective: He thought about it, thought of how her is like ichiru, how she must have sweet memories about him. Because the way Maria refers to Ichiru and the lovely way as she hugged zero (Ch. 25), this demonstrates that Ichiru was affectionate with her too. After all, Maria is the only person I can imagine calling Ichiru-chan, he would not have allowed this approximation of anyone else.

And in the West Maria is a name that has a very strong symbol and a good very meaning. In addition, Maria, Zero and Sara are the only names in VK that has an Western sound.

In VK, Maria has two meanings:

Her first name Maria means "sea of bitterness" or "rebelliousness" or "star of the sea." Her last name Kurenai means "Crimson".
The kanji for the last a in Maria's first name is the same that is used in "Asia"


Random association:

Her name has a meaning as sad as Zero´s name. Perhaps because both of them lost Ichiru. But at the same time, her name means the star of the sea. This is so beautiful. And now, thinking about it. Perhaps, one can be a half part of the other. She brings Ichiru´s memories to Zero and he can bring the memories he has of Ichiru. One poetic sharing through the blood.

XxContradictionsxX wrote:Sara? that would be odd...He doesnt like her. Obviously purebloods and him dont mix, not even Yuuki and him, whom he seemed to love when she was a human...

If anyone Maria? He doesnt treat her totally like a beast in human form...o zero...

yes maria and zero will make a damn good pair but.............hmm...........zero should come out of his contradictions and see that there are things called girls exist.

[quote="Li.llium"][quote="kialovejapan"]

Li.llium wrote:

Interestingly, in first arc I always wondered why Maria was born weak. She´s a noble. Oddly enough, as Ichiru. It explained why Ichiru is weak, but the case of Maria isn´t detailed. However, as Hino gave no development on this issue, I consider it now, a little random. It's a pity. I was hoping this point be developed from Zero´s perspective: He thought about it, thought of how her is like ichiru, how she must have sweet memories about him. Because the way Maria refers to Ichiru and the lovely way as she hugged zero (Ch. 25), this demonstrates that Ichiru was affectionate with her too. After all, Maria is the only person I can imagine calling Ichiru-chan, he would not have allowed this approximation of anyone else.

And in the West Maria is a name that has a very strong symbol and a good very meaning. In addition, Maria, Zero and Sara are the only names in VK that has an Western sound.

In VK, Maria has two meanings:

Her first name Maria means "sea of bitterness" or "rebelliousness" or "star of the sea." Her last name Kurenai means "Crimson".
The kanji for the last a in Maria's first name is the same that is used in "Asia"


Random association:

Her name has a meaning as sad as Zero´s name. Perhaps because both of them lost Ichiru. But at the same time, her name means the star of the sea. This is so beautiful. And now, thinking about it. Perhaps, one can be a half part of the other. She brings Ichiru´s memories to Zero and he can bring the memories he has of Ichiru. One poetic sharing through the blood.

In addition, Maria, Zero and Sara are the only names in VK that has an Western sound.

Not only them...! Also Isaya!!!!! ^^
This is an Hebraw's name!!! How is strange isn't it!!
Isaya-derives from the Hebrew (Isaiah), it is the Hebrew meaning of "God is salvation" or "God is my helper / assistant / support / lifeline."
While for the surname Shouto it was really hard put to find something, I found a proper name derived, (often common practice among Japanese surnames), Shouta(which is a Japanese male name) and the meaning of "Shou" is flying, soar and the meaning of "Ta" is "thick, large,great" , so it may be of great flight ... XD.
I don't know, but I think that this character will surprise us...
Not much is known about his past, even if it is older than 2000 years. But it seems that he knew Juri Kuran before she dead. He is also one of the Kaien old friends, he seems to know who was to rais the Juri's daughter and also to its past as a vampire hunter.
Isaya also said he had a wife and children!! now he believes she is dead (since that the Isays wife has transformed their children offspring in humans). The offspring is then aged and dead, leaving him alone, a "useless" spectator.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/vampire_knight/v12/c058/10.html

I find much strange that Hino-sensei made some characters with Western names...
I hope that she could explain well in the end! XD

I don't think Zero would be with another girl other than Yuuki.Even if he did he wouldn't love her as much as Yuuki...He is stubborn so I guess he would be when it comes to love as well..Nevertheless I think Maria Kurenai would be his girl!

Maria is the most right choice,since she's aware of what Zero's past was and Ichiru-kun as well was her super friend,she even stated to Yuuki:-"Should i TAKE HIM THEN?"
I loved that!
Yes MARIA,tAKE zERO FOR yOU!
And Yuuki is only for KANAME-SAMA!
Yume Foreva!

mmh all of you know that Im not a fan of maria

yes you´re right she knows a lot about him and maybe she understands him and developed feelings for Zero...BUT somehow I don´t shee chemestry here...love shouldn´t be one sided or only because someone didn´t get the girl he favoured...you can give me thousands of reasons why Maria and Zero are a dream-couple but I´ll wait until I feel something...(sorry if someone is annoyed by this post because he or she is a big defender of MariaxZero but this is a personal opinion ;) )

Katherine wrote:mmh all of you know that Im not a fan of maria

yes you´re right she knows a lot about him and maybe she understands him and developed feelings for Zero...BUT somehow I don´t shee chemestry here...love shouldn´t be one sided or only because someone didn´t get the girl he favoured...you can give me thousands of reasons why Maria and Zero are a dream-couple but I´ll wait until I feel something...(sorry if someone is annoyed by this post because he or she is a big defender of MariaxZero but this is a personal opinion ;) )

I like zeria but I am not annoyed by your post.

For zero i had two options: yori or maria. I eliminated yori since she seems to be "lifeless" (yori needs a man like aidou), and I remained with maria.

Maria is the damsell in distress. zero is a chara who despite his tsundere attitude he cannot stay and watch when a girl is in danger; sometime he's soft towards girls.

Also maria is the chara who can make his life more interesting; she will get intentional in troubles to attract zero to her.

aya-chan wrote:

Katherine wrote:mmh all of you know that Im not a fan of maria

yes you´re right she knows a lot about him and maybe she understands him and developed feelings for Zero...BUT somehow I don´t shee chemestry here...love shouldn´t be one sided or only because someone didn´t get the girl he favoured...you can give me thousands of reasons why Maria and Zero are a dream-couple but I´ll wait until I feel something...(sorry if someone is annoyed by this post because he or she is a big defender of MariaxZero but this is a personal opinion ;) )

I like zeria but I am not annoyed by your post.

For zero i had two options: yori or maria. I eliminated yori since she seems to be "lifeless" (yori needs a man like aidou), and I remained with maria.

Maria is the damsell in distress. zero is a chara who despite his tsundere attitude he cannot stay and watch when a girl is in danger; sometime he's soft towards girls.

Also maria is the chara who can make his life more interesting; she will get intentional in troubles to attract zero to her.

HINO never developed trio properly except few elements in zero and yuuki and then they act really stupid,kaname needs no development,i don't think she is gonna develop zeria.

For zero i had two options: yori or maria. I eliminated yori since she seems to be "lifeless" (yori needs a man like aidou), and I remained with maria.

Maria is the damsell in distress. zero is a chara who despite his tsundere attitude he cannot stay and watch when a girl is in danger; sometime he's soft towards girls.

Also maria is the chara who can make his life more interesting; she will get intentional in troubles to attract zero to her.

I also see Maria better; i had some problems accepting into the script as being in love with Zero, mainly because it came out of "nowhere" and Ichirou's attachment sounds a bit superficial but she has other advantages like the Hio blood and perhaps her love for Ichirou can soften Zero, who knows?

It's interesting though that Hino throws her as an option into the scenario * surprise*, where all Zero fans are thinking solely of Yuuki as a choice...

generally for both guys...i would not have a problem going with what makes them happy but only Yuuki until now satisfies this criteria...

on a funny note i was thinking the other day that Yuuki does absolute the opposite;

Spoiler:

juliet wrote:

For zero i had two options: yori or maria. I eliminated yori since she seems to be "lifeless" (yori needs a man like aidou), and I remained with maria.

Maria is the damsell in distress. zero is a chara who despite his tsundere attitude he cannot stay and watch when a girl is in danger; sometime he's soft towards girls.

Also maria is the chara who can make his life more interesting; she will get intentional in troubles to attract zero to her.

I also see Maria better; i had some problems accepting into the script as being in love with Zero, mainly because it came out of "nowhere" and Ichirou's attachment sounds a bit superficial but she has other advantages like the Hio blood and perhaps her love for Ichirou can soften Zero, who knows?

It's interesting though that Hino throws her as an option into the scenario * surprise*, where all Zero fans are thinking solely of Yuuki as a choice...

generally for both guys...i would not have a problem going with what makes them happy but only Yuuki until now satisfies this criteria...

on a funny note i was thinking the other day that Yuuki does absolute the opposite;

Spoiler:

yuuki is more closer to aido,he he...

mmh there needs to be a reason why Hino-sensei presented Maria as someone who wants to get nearer to Zero...maybe she wants to show us that Zero wouldn´t be alone if Yuuki decides to be with Kaname, or she wants to confuse us because we believe that Zeria is possible and be get a Zeki at the end...I can´t believe that she presented Maria in this way just to drop it later without developing it...we´ll see

Katherine wrote:mmh there needs to be a reason why Hino-sensei presented Maria as someone who wants to get nearer to Zero...maybe she wants to show us that Zero wouldn´t be alone if Yuuki decides to be with Kaname, or she wants to confuse us because we believe that Zeria is possible and be get a Zeki at the end...I can´t believe that she presented Maria in this way just to drop it later without developing it...we´ll see

I completely agree. Although I like Zeria, because there are not many options for Zero (the harem of sarah, maybe) I realize that this is a potential that exists, but is not developed. This leads me to these conclusions:

Zero will die or will he be alone, as Kaien.

Zeki

Implicit end with Maria.

Well, none of it is pleasant to me.

No one. It would totally go against his character development and story so far. It is too late in the game to introduce this. Zero has never had any interest in any girls at all, aside from Yuuki. Much of the story has had many moments between Yuuki and Zero....and when they were not having moments, then other characters would make comments about them...especially Kaname.

Sorry, there is only one preferable ending for me....

EmeraldSky wrote:No one. It would totally go against his character development and story so far. It is too late in the game to introduce this. Zero has never had any interest in any girls at all, aside from Yuuki. Much of the story has had many moments between Yuuki and Zero....and when they were not having moments, then other characters would make comments about them...especially Kaname.

Sorry, there is only one preferable ending for me....

Yeah I have to agree with you on that. I couldn't really see Zero being with anyone except Yuki, even if Maria is interested in him I don't think he would really react to it, nor do I see him opening up to any girl other than Yuki

SilverAngel wrote:

EmeraldSky wrote:No one. It would totally go against his character development and story so far. It is too late in the game to introduce this. Zero has never had any interest in any girls at all, aside from Yuuki. Much of the story has had many moments between Yuuki and Zero....and when they were not having moments, then other characters would make comments about them...especially Kaname.

Sorry, there is only one preferable ending for me....

Yeah I have to agree with you on that. I couldn't really see Zero being with anyone except Yuki, even if Maria is interested in him I don't think he would really react to it, nor do I see him opening up to any girl other than Yuki

Zero's mind sees things as black and white. Yuuki is the light in his world. She presents to Zero that not everything is black and white--there are shades of grey (exceptions). SHE is the exception that not all Vampires must be hunted down and killed. She has not lost her humanity....neither has he! He has not progressed to a Level E.

I think if other women try to approach Zero (like Maria), it is only so the author can use it as a tactic to move the love story further....right now Yuuki and Zero are acting like "friends" or "allies"...man, they drive me CRAZY!!

EmeraldSky wrote:

SilverAngel wrote:

EmeraldSky wrote:No one. It would totally go against his character development and story so far. It is too late in the game to introduce this. Zero has never had any interest in any girls at all, aside from Yuuki. Much of the story has had many moments between Yuuki and Zero....and when they were not having moments, then other characters would make comments about them...especially Kaname.

Sorry, there is only one preferable ending for me....

Yeah I have to agree with you on that. I couldn't really see Zero being with anyone except Yuki, even if Maria is interested in him I don't think he would really react to it, nor do I see him opening up to any girl other than Yuki

Zero's mind sees things as black and white. Yuuki is the light in his world. She presents to Zero that not everything is black and white--there are shades of grey (exceptions). SHE is the exception that not all Vampires must be hunted down and killed. She has not lost her humanity....neither has he! He has not progressed to a Level E.

I think if other women try to approach Zero (like Maria), it is only so the author can use it as a tactic to move the love story further....right now Yuuki and Zero are acting like "friends" or "allies"...man, they drive me CRAZY!!

haha I take it you are a zeki fan then? honestly I'm not sure where their "relationship" is headed. Zero seems to be going the "suffer in silence" route so they always seem to be in an awkward phase. Hopefully things will pick up a bit, and unless there is a new character I think Zero may be ending up alone

SilverAngel wrote:

EmeraldSky wrote:

SilverAngel wrote:

Yeah I have to agree with you on that. I couldn't really see Zero being with anyone except Yuki, even if Maria is interested in him I don't think he would really react to it, nor do I see him opening up to any girl other than Yuki

Zero's mind sees things as black and white. Yuuki is the light in his world. She presents to Zero that not everything is black and white--there are shades of grey (exceptions). SHE is the exception that not all Vampires must be hunted down and killed. She has not lost her humanity....neither has he! He has not progressed to a Level E.

I think if other women try to approach Zero (like Maria), it is only so the author can use it as a tactic to move the love story further....right now Yuuki and Zero are acting like "friends" or "allies"...man, they drive me CRAZY!!

haha I take it you are a zeki fan then? honestly I'm not sure where their "relationship" is headed. Zero seems to be going the "suffer in silence" route so they always seem to be in an awkward phase. Hopefully things will pick up a bit, and unless there is a new character I think Zero may be ending up alone

Yup, definitely a Zeki fan.
I feel a big chunk of this story has been devoted to these two characters.....lots of silent moments....lots of taking care of each other and having the others back.

Yuuki has become the one thing Zero hates the most.....of course, this is not her fault, she did not deceive him. She thinks he hates her...she is a young silly girl (like 17, right?). Women are insecure at that age....they always find a reason as to why the guy they love does not return the same feelings. But we KNOW Zero does not hate her...we see his internal (and external) struggle all the time.....

But Zero needs to MAN UP, and ADMIT his feelings for her. He owes it to her b/c she has punished herself.
Like when he made her drink his blood b/c he thought she was acting "weird"....these two are so stubborn! At this point, the ball is in Zero's court. I think Yuuki has given him many subtle clues that she deeply cares for him.....the most recent thing that comes to mind is she still wears the bracelet to tame him.....when in reality, if she didnt care, she would NOT need it to control him (she is a pureblood so she can do it naturally). These are subtle, passive aggressive clues she is giving him.....he needs to pick up on them.