takuma's fate

guys i am so worried of takuma,his character has now become like a hypnotized slave,i want our ichijo back.

I'm totally agree with u, Takuma was so funny and a good presence near Kaname, i think that if Takuma wasn't taken by Sara, he wouldn't allow to Kaname doing things like kill all the purebloods vampires... I think that he'll return to Kaname`s side but before/after that he will die... I have a bad foreboding, I'm sorry...

kialovejapan wrote:I'm totally agree with u, Takuma was so funny and a good presence near Kaname, i think that if Takuma wasn't taken by Sara, he wouldn't allow to Kaname doing things like kill all the purebloods vampires... I think that he'll return to Kaname`s side but before/after that he will die... I have a bad foreboding, I'm sorry...

i have the same feeling as well,maybe he will try in protecting sara from kaname or kaname from sara or yuuki or senri from sara.whatever i don't wanna see him dieing but at the same time he has become hopeless in current chapters literally pissing me off just like sara.

Takuma is under Sara’s blood influence … even Shiki said that he couldn’t recognize this Takuma.

Also Hino made that very clear >>



http://manga.animea.net/vampire-knight-chapter-82-page-34.html

The spreading blood lozenge, degenerated Ichijou

So I hope someone save Takuma from Sara’s web!

nina wrote:Takuma is under Sara’s blood influence … even Shiki said that he couldn’t recognize this Takuma.

Also Hino made that very clear >>



http://manga.animea.net/vampire-knight-chapter-82-page-34.html

The spreading blood lozenge, degenerated Ichijou

So I hope someone save Takuma from Sara’s web!

yeah i think only yuuki or kaname can save him,i hope they do.bring our old takuma back to us.

Maybe Shiki can save Takuma! I know he ate the Sara's pads, but we don't forget that Shiki managed to free himself from the possession of Rido...!!! (yeah, thank to Rima... ) but Rima is always attentive with him...maybe Shiki (or Shiki and Rima) might find a medicine for the Sara's pads.... Who knows The most important is to save Takuma in someway...! He can't die...!! He's a good guy....!!!! Please Hino save him!!!!

kialovejapan wrote:Maybe Shiki can save Takuma! I know he ate the Sara's pads, but we don't forget that Shiki managed to free himself from the possession of Rido...!!! (yeah, thank to Rima... ) but Rima is always attentive with him...maybe Shiki (or Shiki and Rima) might find a medicine for the Sara's pads.... Who knows The most important is to save Takuma in someway...! He can't die...!! He's a good guy....!!!! Please Hino save him!!!!

nah both shiki and rima are far too cool to do anything except modelling,their faces look to me like ah what are we doing here in this mess??

i think only yuuki's or kaname's blood can save our beloved takuma.wish they will save him.poor him.

lucykaede wrote:

kialovejapan wrote:Maybe Shiki can save Takuma! I know he ate the Sara's pads, but we don't forget that Shiki managed to free himself from the possession of Rido...!!! (yeah, thank to Rima... ) but Rima is always attentive with him...maybe Shiki (or Shiki and Rima) might find a medicine for the Sara's pads.... Who knows The most important is to save Takuma in someway...! He can't die...!! He's a good guy....!!!! Please Hino save him!!!!

nah both shiki and rima are far too cool to do anything except modelling,their faces look to me like ah what are we doing here in this mess??

i think only yuuki's or kaname's blood can save our beloved takuma.wish they will save him.poor him.

but Rima was the one that reacted before with Rido, wasn't her? she snapped Shiki out of it and she did well to do so...perhaps this time she reacts too...I think that at this phase Yuuki, Aidou and Rima should team up because at least they are the sober ones here, and see what they can do to fight back for the other two (Takuma and Shiki)...but since Yuuki has a big challenge ahead ( retrieving both kaname and Zero) perhaps the other two can possibly focus on Takuma and Shiki...something must work to get them...

juliet wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

kialovejapan wrote:Maybe Shiki can save Takuma! I know he ate the Sara's pads, but we don't forget that Shiki managed to free himself from the possession of Rido...!!! (yeah, thank to Rima... ) but Rima is always attentive with him...maybe Shiki (or Shiki and Rima) might find a medicine for the Sara's pads.... Who knows The most important is to save Takuma in someway...! He can't die...!! He's a good guy....!!!! Please Hino save him!!!!

nah both shiki and rima are far too cool to do anything except modelling,their faces look to me like ah what are we doing here in this mess??

i think only yuuki's or kaname's blood can save our beloved takuma.wish they will save him.poor him.

but Rima was the one that reacted before with Rido, wasn't her? she snapped Shiki out of it and she did well to do so...perhaps this time she reacts too...I think that at this phase Yuuki, Aidou and Rima should team up because at least they are the sober ones here, and see what they can do to fight back for the other two (Takuma and Shiki)...but since Yuuki has a big challenge ahead ( retrieving both kaname and Zero) perhaps the other two can possibly focus on Takuma and Shiki...something must work to get them...

yeah but they still seems to me like not caring much characters,shiki is so rude to rima for caring only about takuma,he just can't see how much rima loves him.

yeah but they still seems to me like not caring much characters,shiki is so rude to rima for caring only about takuma,he just can't see how much rima loves him.

he took the tablets that's why...the key is Yuuki's blood so at some point Yuuki must give her blood to make tablets that shall restore the vampires that took the tablets (and we saw many of them in the city)...if they can make the tablets...perhaps Aidou and Rima can sneak in and restore them back to reality..

juliet wrote:

yeah but they still seems to me like not caring much characters,shiki is so rude to rima for caring only about takuma,he just can't see how much rima loves him.

he took the tablets that's why...the key is Yuuki's blood so at some point Yuuki must give her blood to make tablets that shall restore the vampires that took the tablets (and we saw many of them in the city)...if they can make the tablets...perhaps Aidou and Rima can sneak in and restore them back to reality..

yeah i hope for that too....i hope yuuki will do that.

lucykaede wrote:

juliet wrote:

yeah but they still seems to me like not caring much characters,shiki is so rude to rima for caring only about takuma,he just can't see how much rima loves him.

he took the tablets that's why...the key is Yuuki's blood so at some point Yuuki must give her blood to make tablets that shall restore the vampires that took the tablets (and we saw many of them in the city)...if they can make the tablets...perhaps Aidou and Rima can sneak in and restore them back to reality..

yeah i hope for that too....i hope yuuki will do that.

Its either Yuuki or Kaname...someone of the two has to provide the blood that is the antidote...in a larger scale i could see Kaname going for that...

Yeah but remember this part about Rima! Don't underestimate her! She's smart!!
http://mangafox.me/manga/vampire_knight/v15/c075/22.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/vampire_knight/v15/c075/23.html
She's the one who has suspect on this tablets...!!!
I think that her help can be useful for Yuuki! In the end I think that the Yuuki's bloode is the medicine (like it was view in previous chapter...when some students of the night class had lose their control, and they were attacking Sayori and Kageyama and others students of the Day Class....)

juliet wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

juliet wrote:

he took the tablets that's why...the key is Yuuki's blood so at some point Yuuki must give her blood to make tablets that shall restore the vampires that took the tablets (and we saw many of them in the city)...if they can make the tablets...perhaps Aidou and Rima can sneak in and restore them back to reality..

yeah i hope for that too....i hope yuuki will do that.

Its either Yuuki or Kaname...someone of the two has to provide the blood that is the antidote...in a larger scale i could see Kaname going for that...

kaname will go for it but yuuki will do it.
@kia i was not underestimating rima,she just don't seem to do much,neither is shiki.

most probably it will either be yuuki or kaname who save takuma and everyone else from sara's evil bloodtablets.

lucykaede wrote:

juliet wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

yeah i hope for that too....i hope yuuki will do that.

Its either Yuuki or Kaname...someone of the two has to provide the blood that is the antidote...in a larger scale i could see Kaname going for that...

kaname will go for it but yuuki will do it.
@kia i was not underestimating rima,she just don't seem to do much,neither is shiki.

Yeah I understand you, in the Rido's saga Shiki and Rima seemed always bored...and not only there...Also when they went hunting Level E.... Their best is in the model's job!!!

i am guessing that kaname and takuma will have a fierce fight in next chapter if yuuki can't catch him.

lucykaede wrote:i am guessing that kaname and takuma will have a fierce fight in next chapter if yuuki can't catch him.

I don´t think in the next chapter...kaname has to fight against Yuuki and zero I think that this will be full of tension...it would be boring if this is a five-page fight where nothing happens...maybe Takuma joins the fight but i don´t think that there will be a Takuma-Kaname fight next chapter without Yuuki and Zero...I think that there are some dramatic moments between there

to Shiki and Rima: yes they seem to be bored very often but I think that we shouldn´t underestimate them...
remember when Rima started fighting against Rido un Shiki´s body...she can get angry too and I think that Shiki will try to keep his promise and goes to takuma...

Katherine wrote:

lucykaede wrote:i am guessing that kaname and takuma will have a fierce fight in next chapter if yuuki can't catch him.

I don´t think in the next chapter...kaname has to fight against Yuuki and zero I think that this will be full of tension...it would be boring if this is a five-page fight where nothing happens...maybe Takuma joins the fight but i don´t think that there will be a Takuma-Kaname fight next chapter without Yuuki and Zero...I think that there are some dramatic moments between there

to Shiki and Rima: yes they seem to be bored very often but I think that we shouldn´t underestimate them...
remember when Rima started fighting against Rido un Shiki´s body...she can get angry too and I think that Shiki will try to keep his promise and goes to takuma...

kaname is strong enough to pass zero and yuuki if her wings do not serve anything.what the heck these wings are??

lucykaede wrote:

Katherine wrote:

lucykaede wrote:i am guessing that kaname and takuma will have a fierce fight in next chapter if yuuki can't catch him.

I don´t think in the next chapter...kaname has to fight against Yuuki and zero I think that this will be full of tension...it would be boring if this is a five-page fight where nothing happens...maybe Takuma joins the fight but i don´t think that there will be a Takuma-Kaname fight next chapter without Yuuki and Zero...I think that there are some dramatic moments between there

to Shiki and Rima: yes they seem to be bored very often but I think that we shouldn´t underestimate them...
remember when Rima started fighting against Rido un Shiki´s body...she can get angry too and I think that Shiki will try to keep his promise and goes to takuma...

kaname is strong enough to pass zero and yuuki if her wings do not serve anything.what the heck these wings are??

I don´t think that they´re usefull too but we don´t know...maybe hino-sensei has a good plan...
but don´t you think that it would be boring if he beats them in 5 pages? I think that there needs to happen something quite dramatic between the three of them

Katherine wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

Katherine wrote:

I don´t think in the next chapter...kaname has to fight against Yuuki and zero I think that this will be full of tension...it would be boring if this is a five-page fight where nothing happens...maybe Takuma joins the fight but i don´t think that there will be a Takuma-Kaname fight next chapter without Yuuki and Zero...I think that there are some dramatic moments between there

to Shiki and Rima: yes they seem to be bored very often but I think that we shouldn´t underestimate them...
remember when Rima started fighting against Rido un Shiki´s body...she can get angry too and I think that Shiki will try to keep his promise and goes to takuma...

kaname is strong enough to pass zero and yuuki if her wings do not serve anything.what the heck these wings are??

I don´t think that they´re usefull too but we don´t know...maybe hino-sensei has a good plan...
but don´t you think that it would be boring if he beats them in 5 pages? I think that there needs to happen something quite dramatic between the three of them

kaname can turn to bats so he won't fight against them and fly away and here i think her wings serves,maybe he won't turn into bats in her wings or her wings will collect his bats or something like that .i still don't think they are comparable to kaname,kaname is too strong,even his master could not control him.that says something.

lucykaede wrote:

Katherine wrote:

lucykaede wrote:

kaname is strong enough to pass zero and yuuki if her wings do not serve anything.what the heck these wings are??

I don´t think that they´re usefull too but we don´t know...maybe hino-sensei has a good plan...
but don´t you think that it would be boring if he beats them in 5 pages? I think that there needs to happen something quite dramatic between the three of them

kaname can turn to bats so he won't fight against them and fly away and here i think her wings serves,maybe he won't turn into bats in her wings or her wings will collect his bats or something like that .i still don't think they are comparable to kaname,kaname is too strong,even his master could not control him.that says something.

I analized this wing-thing somewhere else before: i said too that kaname can turn to bats and on top of that that Zero can use is Bloody Rose "in the air" too (I hope you know what I mean...)
Yeah kaname WILL win that is quite obvious BUT don´t you think that Hino would let Zero and Yuuki team uip like this to show a real dramatic battle? I don´t think that he will be able to run away after evading Yuuki´s attack...there might happen something really special...

but I noticed right now that we aren´t on the topic anymore, so let´s return to this topic and continue this talk somewhere else (maybe chapter 84 predictions?)

I’m very disappointed and sad with the turn that Takuma’s character has taken … Not only cuz Takuma is my second fave character but mostly cuz I think that Hino is destroying the most scrupulous character of her story.

Don’t forget that even if he now believes (wrongly IMO) that all along he followed Kaname attracted from his blood his actions showed that he thwarted Kaname when he thought that he will harm Shiki/Rido.
He tried to kill his own grandfather cuz he was a wicked person!

BUT exactly because of the above and taking under account the situation that Takuma is in – as Hino sent the message >> “the spreading blood lozenge, degenerated Ichijou” - I’m still optimistic that Hino will save and redeem him.

My idea is that Takuma in the end will betray Sara … he cannot kill her but his betrayal will lead to her death. I’m basing it and on this chapter … Sara blatantly now mocked Takuma’s feelings showing clearly that she is using him. My hunch is that Hino deliberately showed how cruel Sara is with Takuma pushing his buttons maybe for bringing him on his limits. Takuma isn’t stupid … I want to believe that he’ll realize that she’s lying to him and whatever and if he does she won’t love him back.

Maybe he’ll want to die with her but there I think will play a role Shiki and Rima like a mirror image from the 1st arc where Takuma saved both of them.

IMO the only permanently and efficient way for Takuma and Zero to be freed from her blood is Sara’s death. Cuz as Kaname pointed out to Zero the owner of PB-ed blood which runs through his body will always be a PB. So even if they drink the Kurans’ blood as an antidote still she might be able to influence them.

what will takuma do in next chapter??
my answer is that maybe he will confront kaname with a sword in order of killing him with yuuki and zero.3 idiots saving the most idiotic villain of all time and trying to kill the hero.serious bastards.

i am scared of takuma being a villain but he it seems highly unlikely,shiki will save him,i think.