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    It's contradiction, right??

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    It's contradiction, right??

    Post by Lenilya Rycanalica on Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:14 pm

    Hontou ni gomenasai, minna.. I disappeared from this forum for a while
    I just want to ask all of u, about this contradiction..
    Last month, I was rewatch Vampire Knight Guilty anime, and I reliazed one thing in this scene..
    When Rido drink Juuri’s blood??



    If before Yuuki’s Kaname-oniisama was born, why Juuri and Haruka welcome Rido’s arrival with a sense of brotherhood??


    from chapter 62

    I'm really confused here.. explosive explosive explosive
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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by nina on Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:17 pm

    Mm… I’m not a big fan of the anime and I didn’t even remember that line from Rido about drinking Juuri’s blood. Razz

    But as far as I remember right now, this line doesn’t exist in the manga (if it does and I’m wrong, please someone correct me). So there is no contradiction in the story from the manga.

    Now generally speaking do not compare the anime with the manga cuz they differ in many points. Sure we saw some elements much earlier in the anime that later showed in the manga as well … but their differences are still many.
    For example, in the anime Yuuki bitten Zero (as his request) when they parted in the end. This scene never existed in the manga. However Yuuki bitten Zero in the manga too, much much later and under different circumstances.

    The manga is the reliable one cuz it comes directly from the author. Very Happy





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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by aya-chan on Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:31 pm

    Lenilya Rycanalica wrote:Hontou ni gomenasai, minna.. I disappeared from this forum for a while
    I just want to ask all of u, about this contradiction..
    Last month, I was rewatch Vampire Knight Guilty anime, and I reliazed one thing in this scene..
    When Rido drink Juuri’s blood??



    If before Yuuki’s Kaname-oniisama was born, why Juuri and Haruka welcome Rido’s arrival with a sense of brotherhood??


    from chapter 62

    I'm really confused here.. explosive explosive explosive

    I do remember the episode. However, this line doesn't exist in manga.
    I reccomand you to rely on manga, and not anime. Anime altered a lot the story.
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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by mariangie on Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:40 pm

    As others said before , that scene doesn't exist in the manga .

    The anime changed a lot of things after chapter 8 of Guilty . The animation studio had problems with Hino .Maybe because they want to do things she didn't aprove . She left the proyect . But apparently she left some information to them before leaving ( as with who Yuuki will end at the last part of first arc . )

    In reality , there is so little information about when Rido , Haruka and Juuri were younger . This is only speculations . That scene could had happened as maybe Rido as older brother and the heir of the throne , was originally supposed to be Juuri's fiancee . And then she discovered the one she really loved was Haruka . After all that time she considered Haruka only as an annoying , sticky big brother ( as the bonus umbrella story shown ).
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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by Lenilya Rycanalica on Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:03 pm

    @ Nina & Aya-chan
    actually, I haven't read the manga version from first chapter until 48th chapter.. it's because, I think anime n manga have same line, no change and no add.. now, I know I'm wrong..
    thanks Nina & Aya-chan..

    "In reality , there is so little information about when Rido , Haruka and Juuri were younger . This is only speculations . That scene could had happened as maybe Rido as older brother and the heir of the throne , was originally supposed to be Juuri's fiancee . And then she discovered the one she really loved was Haruka . After all that time she considered Haruka only as an annoying , sticky big brother ( as the bonus umbrella story shown )."
    thank you, Mariangie.. but, can u tell me, where I can read "the bonus umbrella story shown"???

    mmm, wait..
    If actually relationship between Haruka Juuri and Rido is good, why he targeted Yuuki??? explosive explosive
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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by nina on Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:43 pm

    Lenilya Rycanalica wrote: @ Nina & Aya-chan
    actually, I haven't read the manga version from first chapter until 48th chapter.. it's because, I think anime n manga have same line, no change and no add.. now, I know I'm wrong..
    thanks Nina & Aya-chan..

    You are welcome Very Happy

    As aya said earlier I also recommend you to read the manga cuz it has many differences with the anime … knowing the half of the story from the anime and the other half from the manga won’t help you to understand well the real story.

    but, can u tell me, where I can read "the bonus umbrella story shown"???


    HERE is a link where you can read this extra chapter. Very Happy


    If actually relationship between Haruka Juuri and Rido is good, why he targeted Yuuki???

    One thing it is certain … Rido first attacked and stole their firstborn … the baby Kaname, Yuuki’s real brother. Rido killed the baby in order to resurrect the Kaname that we now know i.e. the ancestor Kaname who was in slumber at that time.
    After that incident Haruka and Juuri had severed all ties with Rido and they thought that his was under the senate’s surveillance. However the fear about Yuuki’s safety was lurking thus and they kept her existence secret something though that it wasn’t enough to prevent Rido’s second attack to take Yuuki. So their relationship when Rido attacked to Yuuki wasn’t good at all.

    Now … how exactly were their relationship before Rido’s first attack to their firstborn it is unknown. We only have some speculations from some scattered hints here and there. And since Rido didn’t hesitate to kill their first baby this means that at least from his part there were some ill emotions and we do know that Rido was very jealous cuz he couldn’t have Juuri.

    One thing though is that Rido was erased from their genealogical tree << this could have happened after his first attack to baby Kaname but again we do not know for certain.





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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by Zero's Lost Cause~ on Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:16 am

    Why would Rido target only Yuuki's blood? i know her and Juri share similar blood...and yet their is more pureblood blood out their. The Shirabuki's, Hio (at one time), Hanadagi...
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    Re: It's contradiction, right??

    Post by mariangie on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:22 am

    Zero's Lost Cause~ wrote:Why would Rido target only Yuuki's blood? i know her and Juri share similar blood...and yet their is more pureblood blood out their. The Shirabuki's, Hio (at one time), Hanadagi...



    In first arc , Rido was torn into little pieces by Kaname . He was techically alive , but in no shape to do any physical action . Only order others or try to possess somebody to do his bidding .

    For what we get , the Vampire Senate tried to aid resurrect Rido . But no matter how much blood they give him . It wasn't enough to fully resurect Rido . It was said only the blood of another Kuran could do the trick . So in that situation , Rido could believe getting Yuuki's blood was easier than Kaname's .

    Rido said at chap. 38 , Viz ed. , vol 8 . When Kaname tried to kill Rido the day Yuuki was turned human :


    Rido : " I shall rest awhile ... And then return for the rich blood of Kuran to resurrect myself completely ... "

    Now Rido is in worse shape than before . He basically is a large blood stain . His need for Kuran blood is bigger if he wants to get his old body back .

    But maybe there is another reason Rido wanted to get Yuuki's blood . Maybe he wants to absorb her pureblood powers . If her special power is to break spells . That is a very strong reason for wanting to get that kind of power .

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