Vampire Knight chapter 78 Full Raws + first translation

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

Well that was my first thought, since Yuki was going to Sara's room, I also believe that Kaname was on his way there, and as we saw she found there Kaname , or it may be that he really had desire to see and ... to suck her blood .......Well that´s my opinion...

I'm certain he just missed her so much that he couldn't stop to think of her safety(since she got attacked by other vampires)and went to see her if she was okay...and saw such a scene(zero grabbing Yuuki and blurting lies)of course he would make a sad and angry face right?

yes why kaname have to handle that? Of course not!!! A less coming from zero!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
I'm certain he just missed her so much that he couldn't stop to think of her safety(since she got attacked by other vampires)and went to see her if she was okay...and saw such a scene(zero grabbing Yuuki and blurting lies)of course he would make a sad and angry face right?

yes why kaname have to handle that? Of course not!!! A less coming from zero!!!

Zero?
Zero's not even capable of saying he loves Yuuki
not like Kaname said directly
I love you!
it's a simple word...
but why he didn't said that?

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:


yes why kaname have to handle that? Of course not!!! A less coming from zero!!!

Zero?
Zero's not even capable of saying he loves Yuuki
not like Kaname said directly
I love you!
it's a simple word...
but why he didn't said that?

That confuses me! Perhaps because Kaname is more mature than zero , obviously!

Akaruisama wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
Zero?
Zero's not even capable of saying he loves Yuuki
not like Kaname said directly
I love you!
it's a simple word...
but why he didn't said that?

That confuses me! Perhaps because Kaname is more mature than zero , obviously!

How could Zero admit he loved Yuuki when he knew she loved Kaname?
I agree Kaname is more mature but Zero just couldn't say something like that in situation he was changing slowly into vampire. It seems he was aware of Yuuki's feeling but he just didn't want to express his own. After Yuuki's changing sitution has not changed.

Maria Kuran wrote:

Akaruisama wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

That confuses me! Perhaps because Kaname is more mature than zero , obviously!

How could Zero admit he loved Yuuki when he knew she loved Kaname?
I agree Kaname is more mature but Zero just couldn't say something like that in situation he was changing slowly into vampire. It seems he was aware of Yuuki's feeling but he just didn't want to express his own. After Yuuki's changing sitution has not changed.

yes, i also knew it, and I think that, it hurt more to Zero and so, I feel a bit too often Zeki! Thank you for your contribution Akaruisama! interesting

yukikuran90210 wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

Akaruisama wrote:


How could Zero admit he loved Yuuki when he knew she loved Kaname?
I agree Kaname is more mature but Zero just couldn't say something like that in situation he was changing slowly into vampire. It seems he was aware of Yuuki's feeling but he just didn't want to express his own. After Yuuki's changing sitution has not changed.

yes, i also knew it, and I think that, it hurt more to Zero and so, I feel a bit too often Zeki! Thank you for your contribution Akaruisama! interesting

ahhhhhhhhh true love hurts right zero?? z-z-z-z zero stop glaring at me....

Maria Kuran wrote:

yukikuran90210 wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

yes, i also knew it, and I think that, it hurt more to Zero and so, I feel a bit too often Zeki! Thank you for your contribution Akaruisama! interesting

ahhhhhhhhh true love hurts right zero?? z-z-z-z zero stop glaring at me....

PITY??????????

JAJAJAJ Well i´m look at you right now !!! But is just something !!! That i feel pity for zero !!!

yukikuran90210 wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

yukikuran90210 wrote:
ahhhhhhhhh true love hurts right zero?? z-z-z-z zero stop glaring at me....

PITY??????????

JAJAJAJ Well i´m look at you right now !!! But is just something !!! That i feel pity for zero !!!

Akaruisama wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
Zero?
Zero's not even capable of saying he loves Yuuki
not like Kaname said directly
I love you!
it's a simple word...
but why he didn't said that?

That confuses me! Perhaps because Kaname is more mature than zero , obviously!

How could Zero admit he loved Yuuki when he knew she loved Kaname?
I agree Kaname is more mature but Zero just couldn't say something like that in situation he was changing slowly into vampire. It seems he was aware of Yuuki's feeling but he just didn't want to express his own. After Yuuki's changing sitution has not changed.

But i think when you love someone you have to say it at any circunstances right?
and Kaname said it with so much love and so much passion
I hope there's gonna be just Kaname and Yuuki together!

Maria Kuran wrote:

But i think when you love someone you have to say it at any circunstances right?
and Kaname said it with so much love and so much passion
I hope there's gonna be just Kaname and Yuuki together!

yes you are right!!! So Kaname doesn´t Care about the circunstances (of lying Yuki and all that things) so stop and saying to Yuki that he love her!!! So Yume 4ever!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

But i think when you love someone you have to say it at any circunstances right?
and Kaname said it with so much love and so much passion
I hope there's gonna be just Kaname and Yuuki together!

yes you are right!!! So Kaname doesn´t Care about the circunstances (of lying Yuki and all that things) so stop and saying to Yuki that he love her!!! So Yume 4ever!!!

He really REALLY loves Yuuki from the bottom of his heart so does Yuuki...they must END TOGETHER ALIVE AND HAPPY!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

yes you are right!!! So Kaname doesn´t Care about the circunstances (of lying Yuki and all that things) so stop and saying to Yuki that he love her!!! So Yume 4ever!!!

He really REALLY loves Yuuki from the bottom of his heart so does Yuuki...they must END TOGETHER ALIVE AND HAPPY!

Yes!!! Yume!!! And if yuki want to stay with Zero, is not a problem, i´m saty w/Kaname!!!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
He really REALLY loves Yuuki from the bottom of his heart so does Yuuki...they must END TOGETHER ALIVE AND HAPPY!

Yes!!! Yume!!! And if yuki want to stay with Zero, is not a problem, i´m saty w/Kaname!!!

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NO NO NO!
Yuuki can't stay with Zero
it's impossible!

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

Yes!!! Yume!!! And if yuki want to stay with Zero, is not a problem, i´m saty w/Kaname!!!

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NO NO NO!
Yuuki can't stay with Zero
it's impossible!

jaja i´m just Kidding!! don´t worry!

yukikuran90210 wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:]
NO NO NO!
Yuuki can't stay with Zero
it's impossible!

jaja i´m just Kidding!! don´t worry!

if yuki ended up with zero i wuold

Maria Kuran wrote:

yukikuran90210 wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

jaja i´m just Kidding!! don´t worry!

if yuki ended up with zero i wuold

don´t worry, every yume is going to concern about that!!! ajaja

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

yukikuran90210 wrote:
if yuki ended up with zero i wuold

don´t worry, every yume is going to concern about that!!! ajaja

most of the characters of this manga are gloomy don't ya think?
but Yuuki don't think that Kaname would kill himself so why should us?
Hino-sensei always had that doubting type of writting and making the plot...
she always relies this manga on Kaname's protagonist sholders...so why kill him now?
isn't this stupid thing to do?

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

don´t worry, every yume is going to concern about that!!! ajaja

most of the characters of this manga are gloomy don't ya think?
but Yuuki don't think that Kaname would kill himself so why should us?
Hino-sensei always had that doubting type of writting and making the plot...
she always relies this manga on Kaname's protagonist sholders...so why kill him now?
isn't this stupid thing to do?

If it is, as I said earlier in a publication, it would be foolish to hino-sensei created a character so sophisticated and beautiful. That brings us to drool to all of us , as Kaname does, so he ended up dead at the end!

lililovelilica wrote:

Maria Kuran wrote:

lililovelilica wrote:
most of the characters of this manga are gloomy don't ya think?
but Yuuki don't think that Kaname would kill himself so why should us?
Hino-sensei always had that doubting type of writting and making the plot...
she always relies this manga on Kaname's protagonist sholders...so why kill him now?
isn't this stupid thing to do?

If it is, as I said earlier in a publication, it would be foolish to hino-sensei created a character so sophisticated and beautiful. That brings us to drool to all of us , as Kaname does, so he ended up dead at the end!

Yeah and Kaname's one of the characters that iniciated the manga
so you could say HE'S the protagonist of the hole manga history!

juliet wrote:the statement that the fan book provides for Rido changing the list is also stated multiple times in the manga by the direct interferaed people such as Shizuka, Ichiru (who tried to kill Rido) and also Yagari who was away in a search about the responsible of the Kiryu incident;

therefore canon or not canon the fan book states a canon event that was verified over and over again by multiple sources. There is no reason to doubt all these official sources just because Sara claims to know a secret > from a secret are we supposed to pass in doubting all of these sources that actually were supposed to investigate the crime?

And even if Sara claims it to be so, how much trust can you place upon her words when we know that her initial intention is to create a chaos at an academy and take in her possession Zero as a weapon against Kaname?

Yagari:
http://www.mangareader.net/104-2173-23/vampire-knight/chapter-47.html
If you notice, Yagari never names a name: Kaname is the one claiming that it is Rido here.

and when i found that there were corrupt liaisons between the high hierarchy of the hunter association and the vampire council, I was finally certain that what happened four years ago was not a pureblood losing their mind as it was said...and that there was someone...in the shadow corrupting the relations between the council and the association.

That man was after my little sister's youthful and thick blood but Zero has already taken care of him for us...

caela wrote:What Shizuka said about the list and who she blames: Nothing that I could find, except about blaming the Kiryuu's. If you can find the page of the manga where she says she blames Rido, I would appreciate it.

Ichiru is a human and not a vampire, he would only know secrets from direct observation and what people tell him. Not the best source.

So far, the only sources in the manga that Rido changed the list is Kaname and Ichiru, that I can see. Even the fanbook doesn't say that Rido changed the list, it says that Rido ordered the Senate to kill the lover.

and we have no idea about Ichiru's source

the fanbook does not address the matter of who was responsible for the list change.

Sara has not been called a liar by canon

aya-chan wrote:

caela wrote:What Shizuka said about the list and who she blames: Nothing that I could find, except about blaming the Kiryuu's. If you can find the page of the manga where she says she blames Rido, I would appreciate it.

You will not find shizuka calling rido as the culprit, however, you can find the followings:

->kaname chapter 19

We probably have the same objective in mind...shizuka - refference to rido - and continued in chapter 20

I shall destroy what you truly hated...those who twisted our fate of the purebloods.

->Maria chapter 26

There was someone behind the scenes who used the kiryu's as pawns to hunt down shizuka's lover. Someone who wasn't happy that she was in love with a vampire who used to be a human. And when shizuka regained her senses, she realized who the real enemy was and tried to gain more power to destroy her enemy. who ever did those things to her is the real enemy...the enemy of the purebloods and of you.

From Maria line you can understand that shizuka after she regained her senses she tried to find the real culprit - why her servant was put on hunters list when he did not fall to level e. her investigations lead to Rido.

->Ichiru chapter 40

I tried only to fulfill shizuka-sama wish...He was my only target...The one who imprisoned shizuka-sama and interffered with the execution list...Rido Kuran.


Moreover is yagari too who investigate their deaths.

His convo with kaname show rido being the subject of their discussion.

yagari: and when i found that there were corrupt liaisons between the high hierarchy of the hunter association and the vampire council, I was finally certain that what happened four years ago was not a pureblood losing their mind as it was said...and that there was someone...in the shadow corrupting the relations between the council and the association.

Kaname: That man was after my little sister's youthful and thick blood but Zero has already taken care of him for us...

I hate to repeat myself, but I would still do it: you must see those quotes as a whole, not to dismiss them when is convenient.

Ichiru is a human and not a vampire, he would only know secrets from direct observation and what people tell him. Not the best source.

Zero best source in knowing the culprit was shizuka - they spend 4 yrs in each other company. and shizuka way to find informations was through maria's ability to control animal minds. is possible for ichiru to have been around when shizuka discovered the culprit.

So far, the only sources in the manga that Rido changed the list is Kaname and Ichiru, that I can see. Even the fanbook doesn't say that Rido changed the list, it says that Rido ordered the Senate to kill the lover.

What's the difference? because he ordered to the senate to get rid of her servant he was put on the hunt list and kill afterwards. rido is the moral author of the crime.

and we have no idea about Ichiru's source

Since ichiru was with shizuka I guess ichiru source was shizuka herself.

the fanbook does not address the matter of who was responsible for the list change.

When a level e escape from vampire association watchful eyes they put that vampire on hunting list. Since the vampire senate had a strong connection with former hunters president I guessed they - the senate - inform them about it to take care of the problem - is hunters job to kill vampires after all

Sara has not been called a liar by canon

Do you need a manga character to call sara a liar? but when she said she suspect kaname for killing ouri what was that? did you skipped that part

lililovelilica wrote:
Wich mean Ichiru Knew about Kaname being the ancestor of the Kuran Family and the oldest Vampire?