Hino's artwork, meanings?

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Ok XD I had no idea where to put this so I just shoved it in here, if the mods see it belonging somewhere else please move accordingly.

So lately I've been thinking alot about the VK artwork after seeing the artbook (*___*)

And I've noticed some interesting things, this post will be image heavy so if you have a bad connection i'm sorry D:

First this is a silly something I noticed xD But is there a reason why she did it? Just some food for thought and you may even come to notice things in other VK images.




As we can see Zero and Kaname are playing chess, but notice Zero is on the white side? And don't they always say, whichever side moves first wins? And what side always moves first? I'm not meaning this in a shippy way, but i'm meaning it in perhaps a fight that may occur, I feel like we've been getting teased for a while about a fight between these two and I think it may happen, but does this mean that, Zero would initiate the fight? and perhaps win? lols random random

Next is this image



This is proof that she does put hidden messages into her images, this is from what, the first volume? I think cant quite remember and too lazy to go check my books xD And it's quite obvious here that well, both Yuuki and Zero are in the Night class uniforms, which are for vampires of course, proof that they were both going to be vampires in this story (:

Then we have this image


Of Kaname holding Artemis, not sure really what to say about this one but I find it rather interesting, why is he holding Artemis, and why is it wrapped round Zero like that? Is this going to be something that will happen in the future?

Then these 2 images, 2 of my favourites tbh


Notice the striking similarity? I don't know what it is about these works but I feel like there's a reason she has put them both in very similar poses, maybe it's just to show their vulnerability in the chapters at the time but really, why did she make them so similar? I find it quite strange tbh

And lastly something shippy-ish xD

these 2 images of Kaname and Yuuki





Yin and Yang.

Random yes but, is this the proof that they will be the final couple in the end, purely because they seem to be decipted as Yin and Yang? who knows

Please don't take this too seriously, I was just sharing my thoughts on some images and hope maybe others will do the same if they notice anything in any other images, will be nice to hear others input

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:


WOW knigtmare So I was right The shirt belongs to Zero if you look in chapter 50 page 6 you can see that the was there on him too. I think the coat is the one from chapter 51 And the tie is Zero´s too That´s pretty hinty Zero is going without any shirt again

I completely agree! That double button hole shirt is a definite day class shirt and the red tie goes with that day class uniform. Zero is often seen wearing a dark coat and that's what it is in the picture IMO...

Yeah Zero the shirtless man is back again ...

Hehe finally I hope so xD xD xD

I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms from my shirtless-Zero deficiency

shizza24 wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

I completely agree! That double button hole shirt is a definite day class shirt and the red tie goes with that day class uniform. Zero is often seen wearing a dark coat and that's what it is in the picture IMO...

Yeah Zero the shirtless man is back again ...

Hehe finally I hope so xD xD xD

I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms from my shirtless-Zero deficiency

OMG Can´t wait to see him shirtless again I´m going fangirly someone please stop me

Note:Shizza on you signature there is a text isn´t it from a song ? I mean that i have heard a song that did have a text like that I know it´s offtopic but couldn´t ressist asking

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:

Yeah Zero the shirtless man is back again ...

Hehe finally I hope so xD xD xD

I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms from my shirtless-Zero deficiency

OMG Can´t wait to see him shirtless again I´m going fangirly someone please stop me

Note:Shizza on you signature there is a text isn´t it from a song ? I mean that i have heard a song that did have a text like that I know it´s offtopic but couldn´t ressist asking

Hehe yessss xDDDDD More Shirtless Zero


and LOL

And yes the lyrics are from the song "Love Song Requiem"

it goes like "She belongs to fairy tales that I could never be... The future haunts with memories that I could never have... And hope is just a stranger wondering how it got so bad..." It fits Zeki sooo perfectly so sad and tragic....

shizza24 wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:


Hehe finally I hope so xD xD xD

I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms from my shirtless-Zero deficiency

OMG Can´t wait to see him shirtless again I´m going fangirly someone please stop me

Note:Shizza on you signature there is a text isn´t it from a song ? I mean that i have heard a song that did have a text like that I know it´s offtopic but couldn´t ressist asking

Hehe yessss xDDDDD More Shirtless Zero


and LOL

And yes the lyrics are from the song "Love Song Requiem"

it goes like "She belongs to fairy tales that I could never be... The future haunts with memories that I could never have... And hope is just a stranger wondering how it got so bad..." It fits Zeki sooo perfectly so sad and tragic....

I'm not going to discuss wheter it's zero or not ( ) but.....

Indeed, We need shirtless zero. We've gotten him like that. It's not fair to take something away, once you've shown how delicious it looks

Guess Im' having with-drawl symptoms too-----> maybe this is where all the fangirling and zero-perviness comes from lately

Ps: and I really love that quote and you're signature It is indeed so zeki xD

Anneliezz wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:

OMG Can´t wait to see him shirtless again I´m going fangirly someone please stop me

Note:Shizza on you signature there is a text isn´t it from a song ? I mean that i have heard a song that did have a text like that I know it´s offtopic but couldn´t ressist asking

Hehe yessss xDDDDD More Shirtless Zero


and LOL

And yes the lyrics are from the song "Love Song Requiem"

it goes like "She belongs to fairy tales that I could never be... The future haunts with memories that I could never have... And hope is just a stranger wondering how it got so bad..." It fits Zeki sooo perfectly so sad and tragic....

I'm not going to discuss wheter it's zero or not ( ) but.....

Indeed, We need shirtless zero. We've gotten him like that. It's not fair to take something away, once you've shown how delicious it looks

Guess Im' having with-drawl symptoms too-----> maybe this is where all the fangirling and zero-perviness comes from lately

Ps: and I really love that quote and you're signature It is indeed so zeki xD

Hehe I think we're going here

But yes Hino-san was cruel.... taking us from shirtless Zero in EVERY chapter to NO Zero in ANY chapter that was just wrong

Well atleast Zero is back now all that's left is for him to...


and thanks! and yea that sig really caught my eye... the lyrics are sooo touching and zeki....

shizza24 wrote:

Anneliezz wrote:

shizza24 wrote:


Hehe yessss xDDDDD More Shirtless Zero


and LOL

And yes the lyrics are from the song "Love Song Requiem"

it goes like "She belongs to fairy tales that I could never be... The future haunts with memories that I could never have... And hope is just a stranger wondering how it got so bad..." It fits Zeki sooo perfectly so sad and tragic....

I'm not going to discuss wheter it's zero or not ( ) but.....

Indeed, We need shirtless zero. We've gotten him like that. It's not fair to take something away, once you've shown how delicious it looks

Guess Im' having with-drawl symptoms too-----> maybe this is where all the fangirling and zero-perviness comes from lately

Ps: and I really love that quote and you're signature It is indeed so zeki xD

Hehe I think we're going here

But yes Hino-san was cruel.... taking us from shirtless Zero in EVERY chapter to NO Zero in ANY chapter that was just wrong

Well atleast Zero is back now all that's left is for him to...


and thanks! and yea that sig really caught my eye... the lyrics are sooo touching and zeki....

Yeah we all going

How could i not know it I have Trading Yesterday CD More than this in itunes Yeah his songs are totally Zeki Beautifull and sorrowful Kind of like it

Back to topic: Hino is so evil The clothes could belong to both men. They both have weared diffrent black coats. But because of the tie, i more prefer setting my money on Zero Now it´s me who are gambling ...

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

Anneliezz wrote:

I'm not going to discuss wheter it's zero or not ( ) but.....

Indeed, We need shirtless zero. We've gotten him like that. It's not fair to take something away, once you've shown how delicious it looks

Guess Im' having with-drawl symptoms too-----> maybe this is where all the fangirling and zero-perviness comes from lately

Ps: and I really love that quote and you're signature It is indeed so zeki xD

Hehe I think we're going here

But yes Hino-san was cruel.... taking us from shirtless Zero in EVERY chapter to NO Zero in ANY chapter that was just wrong

Well atleast Zero is back now all that's left is for him to...


and thanks! and yea that sig really caught my eye... the lyrics are sooo touching and zeki....

Yeah we all going

How could i not know it I have Trading Yesterday CD More than this in itunes Yeah his songs are totally Zeki Beautifull and sorrowful Kind of like it

Back to topic: Hino is so evil The clothes could belong to both men. They both have weared diffrent black coats. But because of the tie, i more prefer setting my money on Zero Now it´s me who are gambling ...

ROFL Cythia....thanks for the gambling joke.....and yes, agreed that it could be Kaname's jacket, but the red Tie makes it more likely that the whole outfit is ZERO!!!

If I stay on this forum for more than five min, Cythia, kindly kick me off....I need sleep desparately!

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

Anneliezz wrote:

I'm not going to discuss wheter it's zero or not ( ) but.....

Indeed, We need shirtless zero. We've gotten him like that. It's not fair to take something away, once you've shown how delicious it looks

Guess Im' having with-drawl symptoms too-----> maybe this is where all the fangirling and zero-perviness comes from lately

Ps: and I really love that quote and you're signature It is indeed so zeki xD

Hehe I think we're going here

But yes Hino-san was cruel.... taking us from shirtless Zero in EVERY chapter to NO Zero in ANY chapter that was just wrong

Well atleast Zero is back now all that's left is for him to...


and thanks! and yea that sig really caught my eye... the lyrics are sooo touching and zeki....

Yeah we all going

How could i not know it I have Trading Yesterday CD More than this in itunes Yeah his songs are totally Zeki Beautifull and sorrowful Kind of like it

Back to topic: Hino is so evil The clothes could belong to both men. They both have weared diffrent black coats. But because of the tie, i more prefer setting my money on Zero Now it´s me who are gambling ...

Agreed!


And yes the shirt and coat can belong to both men but the tie is definitely Zero's..... Maybe this is what happened after the bite in VK 74?

caela wrote:

VampireCythia wrote:

shizza24 wrote:

Hehe I think we're going here

But yes Hino-san was cruel.... taking us from shirtless Zero in EVERY chapter to NO Zero in ANY chapter that was just wrong

Well atleast Zero is back now all that's left is for him to...


and thanks! and yea that sig really caught my eye... the lyrics are sooo touching and zeki....

Yeah we all going

How could i not know it I have Trading Yesterday CD More than this in itunes Yeah his songs are totally Zeki Beautifull and sorrowful Kind of like it

Back to topic: Hino is so evil The clothes could belong to both men. They both have weared diffrent black coats. But because of the tie, i more prefer setting my money on Zero Now it´s me who are gambling ...

ROFL Cythia....thanks for the gambling joke.....and yes, agreed that it could be Kaname's jacket, but the red Tie makes it more likely that the whole outfit is ZERO!!!

If I stay on this forum for more than five min, Cythia, kindly kick me off....I need sleep desparately!

Yeah I couldn´t resist making that joke about gambling Thanks for agree with me. If Zero is going around without any shirt again. I´m scared if i don´t stop thinking about I´ll get nosebleeds
So it´s late at night there were you are. I´m glad over here it´s morning
Shizza: It seems like I´m not the only one who is droling

nina wrote:

and kaname's regular shirts don't show the double button hole.
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/75/10

Well I guess you don’t pay much attention on kaname’s wardrobe


https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img267/6375/vampireknight1515914.jpg


https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img855/2017/vampireknight1515917.jpg

actually, i didn't miss those (i didn't go all through every shirt kaname wears just to find one you know), the buttons were removed in the published book, so she made a mistake when she put them in and she took them out in the fixed up version. she probably remembered later what she said in the fanbook about the lots of buttons being a feature of the school shirt.

the button holes and the buttons were removed:
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb9jdz/5
http://tinypic.com/r/rutd81/5

67, the buttons were still there, but again, removed for the fixed up book
http://tinypic.com/r/a596ac/5

so yah, i reckon its definitely meant to be the day class shirt esp when the school red tie is also there.

Knightmare wrote:

nina wrote:

and kaname's regular shirts don't show the double button hole.
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/75/10

Well I guess you don’t pay much attention on kaname’s wardrobe


https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img267/6375/vampireknight1515914.jpg


https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img855/2017/vampireknight1515917.jpg

actually, i didn't miss those (i didn't go all through every shirt kaname wears just to find one you know), the buttons were removed in the published book, so she obviously made a mistake when she put them in. or maybe one of her assistants did and she took them out in the fixed up version.

the button holes and the buttons were removed:
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb9jdz/5
http://tinypic.com/r/rutd81/5

67, the buttons http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/67/6were still there[/url], but again, removed for the fixed up book
http://tinypic.com/r/a596ac/5

so yah, i reckon its definitely meant to be the day class shirt esp when the school red tie is also there.

well then

kanamekisser wrote:

Knightmare wrote:

nina wrote:

Well I guess you don’t pay much attention on kaname’s wardrobe


https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img267/6375/vampireknight1515914.jpg


https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img855/2017/vampireknight1515917.jpg

actually, i didn't miss those (i didn't go all through every shirt kaname wears just to find one you know), the buttons were removed in the published book, so she obviously made a mistake when she put them in. or maybe one of her assistants did and she took them out in the fixed up version.

the button holes and the buttons were removed:
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb9jdz/5
http://tinypic.com/r/rutd81/5

67, the buttons http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/67/6were still there[/url], but again, removed for the fixed up book
http://tinypic.com/r/a596ac/5

so yah, i reckon its definitely meant to be the day class shirt esp when the school red tie is also there.

well then

I second that...Ditto Knightmare

We've been lawyered!

caela wrote:

kanamekisser wrote:

Knightmare wrote:

actually, i didn't miss those (i didn't go all through every shirt kaname wears just to find one you know), the buttons were removed in the published book, so she obviously made a mistake when she put them in. or maybe one of her assistants did and she took them out in the fixed up version.

the button holes and the buttons were removed:
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb9jdz/5
http://tinypic.com/r/rutd81/5

67, the buttons http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/67/6were still there[/url], but again, removed for the fixed up book
http://tinypic.com/r/a596ac/5

so yah, i reckon its definitely meant to be the day class shirt esp when the school red tie is also there.

well then

I second that...Ditto Knightmare

We've been lawyered!

WOW that´s really good Yuuki is biting in Zero´s tie... That´s pretty hinty...

such a need???

When Zero wears a coat usually he doesn’t wears the uniform hence not even the tie >>
http://www.mangareader.net/104-47679-22/vampire-knight/chapter-58.html

>> the shirt has ONE button
http://www.mangareader.net/104-47679-26/vampire-knight/chapter-58.html
>> or he doesn’t even wears a shirt … he prefers more casual clothes like t-shirts>>
http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-5/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html

Another one … coat without shirt >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/69/5

No shirt no tattoo
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/69/6

Coat with t-shirt >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/72/10

Again >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/72/28

I think you got the point. Also when Zero is IN the academy he wears only his uniform i.e. a black SHORT jacket with grey (white) details … NO coat as it is depicted on the pic in question.

While Kaname wears usually black coat with white shirt. An example >
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v15/c075/9.html

the button holes and the buttons were removed:
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb9jdz/5
http://tinypic.com/r/rutd81/5

Kaname wears the same shirt in the previous chapter (65) but the buttons weren’t there while are depicted on the SAME shirt in chapter 66. So what this proves? Logically that they forgot to draw them … either way the collar is too high to have one or none button. They have forgotten Zero’s tattoo in some pics haha what that means; that Zero has no tattoo? ROFL

But since it is so important for you this empty shirt … there are some more pics with Kaname wearing a shirt with 2 buttons >>

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v10/c048/24.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-38/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/32









If your point was that Kaname has NO shirt with 2 buttons

But do you really believe that the depiction in question has such importance or relevance for the actual story? Yuuki actually will strip Zero???

Woaw Knightmare!! You seem to have done your homework haha



And about the uniform under the coat.... well he is seen wearing a coat over his uniform..

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-6/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-7/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

nina wrote: such a need???

When Zero wears a coat usually he doesn’t wears the uniform hence not even the tie >>
http://www.mangareader.net/104-47679-22/vampire-knight/chapter-58.html

>> the shirt has ONE button
http://www.mangareader.net/104-47679-26/vampire-knight/chapter-58.html
>> or he doesn’t even wears a shirt … he prefers more casual clothes like t-shirts>>
http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-5/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html

Another one … coat without shirt >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/69/5

No shirt no tattoo
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/69/6

Coat with t-shirt >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/72/10

Again >>
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/72/28

I think you got the point. Also when Zero is IN the academy he wears only his uniform i.e. a black SHORT jacket with grey (white) details … NO coat as it is depicted on the pic in question.

While Kaname wears usually black coat with white shirt. An example >
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v15/c075/9.html

the button holes and the buttons were removed:
http://tinypic.com/r/2nb9jdz/5
http://tinypic.com/r/rutd81/5

Kaname wears the same shirt in the previous chapter (65) but the buttons weren’t there while are depicted on the SAME shirt in chapter 66. So what this proves? Logically that they forgot to draw them … either way the collar is too high to have one or none button. They have forgotten Zero’s tattoo in some pics haha what that means; that Zero has no tattoo? ROFL

But since it is so important for you this empty shirt … there are some more pics with Kaname wearing a shirt with 2 buttons >>

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v10/c048/24.html
http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-38/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/32









If your point was that Kaname has NO shirt with 2 buttons

But do you really believe that the depiction in question has such importance or relevance for the actual story? Yuuki actually will strip Zero???

awww...any image that is not part of the manga proper is not canon. They are fun though

Nina: None of the Kaname shirt pictures provided were white/two button collar shirts as part of the manga canon....(one was a black shirt)

Anyways, who ever Yuuki ends up doing stuff with, I do not see her as being passive. Yuuki is a bossy person. I can see her stripping either one of the guys.... (She did mention something about slapping Kaname )

@Shizza: Nice catch with Zero + uniform + coat!

shizza24 wrote:Woaw Knightmare!! You seem to have done your homework haha



And about the uniform under the coat.... well he is seen wearing a coat over his uniform..

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-6/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-7/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

And Nina, did a wonderful job there narrowing down the subject to the button's importance...

because if Hino would like to hint Zero would she use a simple coat, ordinary depiction of shirt and a red tie where mostly Kaname is depicted rather than the uniform jacket for example?

even though for me its a matter of pure fan there... but still I am betting on Kaname...since this interpretation fits better and with the current circumstances than anything else...

Before Yuuki strips Zero, she has other things to resolute first...

caela wrote:[
Nina: None of the Kaname shirt pictures provided were white/two button collar shirts as part of the manga canon....(one was a black shirt)

Anyways, who ever Yuuki ends up doing stuff with, I do not see her as being passive. Yuuki is a bossy person. I can see her stripping either one of the guys.... (She did mention something about slapping Kaname )

@Shizza: Nice catch with Zero + uniform + coat!

To which pictures do you refer Caela because I have lost counting here (and by the end of this discussion probably other things too LOL)


@ By the way Knightmare which edition was this that you posted the scans from? its not the Viz one right?)

nina wrote:
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img35/6977/538658807333ef4cd669.jpg
If your point was that Kaname has NO shirt with 2 buttons

matching Zero pic ---> http://108.60.201.122/552%2F73_15_AAFXT%2Fbonus09.png hino seems to like to give them matching clothing in colour pictures. the above clearly isn't the same shirt as https://2img.net/h/oi39.tinypic.com/2rz2tmh.png since its missing the bent collar.

I didn't say that kaname doesn't wear two button shirts, just saying that a two button collar shirt (plus a bent collar) plus a red tie is most likely meant to hint the day class shirt, because as hino said, its a distinctive trait of the shirt.

anybody can wear all three pieces of clothing. but if you all are looking for clues as to who the clothes belong to, its more likely to be the one (or two) who usually wears the style no?

someone clue me up on why this is only a reference to one person? i was perfectly happy with it being both. lol. but if its one, i pick zero.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v10/c048/24.html --> black shirt...nightlcass shirt?
http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-38/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/32 --> a panel from 67, one of the fixed images.

and its not that Hino won't draw kaname with two button, just that this particular shirt is mostly like to be the one we are all most familiar with. only because we're "supposed" to the guess who it refers to. if someone were wearing it, it'd mean nothing...

if we really want to get down to meaning...

i don't really think its about stripping anyone btw. its about sharing the image with another character(s) and they are there symbolically, like the wolves pic. its not a real picture of a scene thats gonna happen. the tree also reminds me of zero, a lot of their scenes recently have been around trees as well as reminding me of the big tree in his mind and how old yuuki was sitting under it.

juliet wrote:
@ By the way Knightmare which edition was this that you posted the scans from? its not the Viz one right?)

vol14. no its not viz its the other one. i get the viz ones too, i like them a lot better.

Knightmare wrote:

nina wrote:
https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img35/6977/538658807333ef4cd669.jpg
If your point was that Kaname has NO shirt with 2 buttons

matching Zero pic ---> http://108.60.201.122/552%2F73_15_AAFXT%2Fbonus09.png hino seems to like to give them matching clothing in colour pictures. the above clearly isn't the same shirt as https://2img.net/h/oi39.tinypic.com/2rz2tmh.png since its missing the bent collar.

I didn't say that kaname doesn't wear two button shirts, just saying that a two button collar shirt (plus a bent collar) plus a red tie is most likely meant to hint the day class shirt, because as hino said, its a distinctive trait of the shirt.

anybody can wear all three pieces of clothing. but if you all are looking for clues as to who the clothes belong to, its more likely to be the one (or two) who usually wears the style no?

someone clue me up on why this is only a reference to one person? i was perfectly happy with it being both. lol. but if its one, i pick zero.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v10/c048/24.html --> thats his coat
http://www.mangareader.net/104-56087-38/vampire-knight/chapter-63.html
http://www.mangareader.net/vampire-knight/71/32 --> a panel from 67, one of the fixed images.

and its not that Hino won't draw kaname with two button, just that this particular shirt is mostly like to be the one we are all most familiar with. only because we're "supposed" to the guess who it refers to. if someone were wearing it, it'd mean nothing...

if we really want to get down to meaning...

i don't really think its about stripping anyone btw. its about sharing the image with another character(s) and they are there symbolically, like the wolves pic. its not a real picture of a scene thats gonna happen. the tree also reminds me of zero, a lot of their scenes recently have been around trees as well as reminding me of the big tree in his mind and how old yuuki was sitting under it.

juliet wrote:
@ By the way Knightmare which edition was this that you posted the scans from? its not the Viz one right?)

vol14. no its not viz its the other one. i get the viz ones too, i like them a lot better.

@Knightmare

This scene represents the current Yuuki in Zero's mind (which we saw in chapter 74)? So the dayclass Yuuki got replaced finally with the updated Nightclass Yuuki? And the tree is the Shizuka tree? Extremely interesting! I wonder what the clothing represents then? Dirty laundry? (sorry, too silly to be serious for a whole paragraph

I like your theory Knightmare....its just too bad it doesn't include a certain shirtless vampire hunter

@Juliet
I lost count of the pictures. If you want, you can scroll up a few to Nina's last post. Right now, I'm now I'm lucky that I am not misspelling everything. sorry, so sleepy......

Shizza wrote: And about the uniform under the coat.... well he is seen wearing a coat over his uniform..

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-6/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

http://www.mangareader.net/104-2178-7/vampire-knight/chapter-50.html

Yes I had in mind that scene thus I wrote previously >>

When Zero wears a coat usually he doesn’t wears the uniform hence not even the tie …

Also when Zero is IN the academy he wears only his uniform i.e. a black SHORT jacket with grey (white) details … NO coat as it is depicted on the pic in question.

And in the depictions that you provided Zero is outside the academy … actually was when Zero lived in an apartment. I can’t recall any scene IN the academy (moreover since the depiction in question pinpoints the academy) where Zero wears black coat above his uniform.

caela wrote: awww...any image that is not part of the manga proper is not canon. They are fun though

Oh really? Then the pic in question according to your standards is canon or not canon?
I guess when it is convenient the non canon pics do count and when isn’t they don’t … Why I’m not surprised?

But since you brought up the canon subject … for whom it is canon to wear a black coat and in most cases with white shirt? >>

Juliet wrote: because if Hino would like to hint Zero would she use a simple coat, ordinary depiction of shirt and a red tie where mostly Kaname is depicted rather than the uniform jacket for example?

There you said it! And since Yuuki has stripped Zero there … where is his “trade mark” jacket?

@knightmare unfortunately I can’t see these links >>

matching Zero pic ---> http://108.60.201.122/552%2F73_15_AAFXT%2Fbonus09.png hino seems to like to give them matching clothing in colour pictures. the above clearly isn't the same shirt ashttps://2img.net/h/oi39.tinypic.com/2rz2tmh.png since its missing the bent collar.

But anyway I think we might have an agreement/compromise here >>

and its not that Hino won't draw kaname with two button,

That was my point though … so the shirt is debatable.

just that this particular shirt is mostly like to be the one we are all most familiar with. only because we're "supposed" to the guess who it refers to.

It could be ONLY the familiar one IF instead of the black coat was depicted the black jacket from the uniform.

i don't really think its about stripping anyone btw. its about sharing the image with another character(s) and they are there symbolically, like the wolves pic.

Now we agreed. This is how I view this particular depiction cuz as the red tie pinpoints on Zero the black coat pinpoints on Kaname (as symbols) and the shirt could be from both.

nina wrote:

caela wrote:
awww...any image that is not part of the manga proper is not canon. They are fun though

Oh really? Then the pic in question according to your standards is canon or not canon?
I guess when it is convenient the non canon pics do count and when isn’t they don’t … Why I’m not surprised?

But since you brought up the canon subject … for whom it is canon to wear a black coat and in most cases with white shirt? >>

(1) post chapter 69 (yuuki is in her nightclass uniform)
(2) red tie
(3) white shirt
(4) black coat

Kaname has no reason to wear a red tie. I can't imagine he will go back to school as a student.

Also, white shirt and black coat combo is the most common men's clothing combination in the manga. The red tie is what makes any sort of identification possible.

And as I said before, everyone in the manga wears black coats. Even Aido-dono died in a long black trench coat.

Also, I'm leaning towards Knightmare's suggestion that the pic is an updated interpretation of Zero's mind: Nightclass Yuuki sitting on a Shizuka Hio tree branch.

The Yuuki picture is definitely not canon, Nina. I hope you can trust me on that .

Some canon manga images of black coat/white shirt combo and just black coats:




Yagari, Zero and Kaname in the combo black coat, white shirt
everyone else in black coats, unable to determine what color clothing underneath.

caela wrote: The Yuuki picture is definitely not canon, Nina.

Exactly … so if this pic counts to prove something related to the canon story then every non canon pic counts as well.

But whateva …

knightmare wrote:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/vampire_knight/v10/c048/24.html --> black shirt...nightlcass shirt?

Now I saw that lol. Actually isn’t a shirt from the NC uniform. This scene is from the first day the NC moved at the academy. None of the students wore the uniform and if you go back you’ll see that Kaname comes from outside, finds Yuuki sleeping on the stairs and he is wearing his clothes and a black coat. So no, the shirt isn’t from the uniform.

nina wrote:

caela wrote: The Yuuki picture is definitely not canon, Nina.

Exactly … so if this pic counts to prove something related to the canon story then every non canon pic counts as well.

But whateva …

Wow, we really do not understand each other. I never said that the Yuuki-sitting-on-tree portrait had any relevance to canon. I do not believe anyone on the thread said so either. I will be on the lookout for such misunderstandings in the future.

Note: trying to interpret non-canon art with other non-canon art is like two people using two different translations of the manga to discuss the manga. Both situations make it harder to make a satisfying conclusion. Canon manga is easiest for any interpretation basis, even for the non-canon artwork.

I mean, there is even Hino artwork with Zero in a nightclass uniform. I do not think that means Zero has a night class uniform in his wardrobe.

Oh my I didn't know that posting this picture will give 5-pages discussion . Well for me I rather think that these clothes belongs to Kaname,but I think HM pictures are always full of symbols,colours which means sth. and it can be some kind of game with readers. I liked the idea with comparing this pictures with image with wolves( Zero and Kaname not literally as person) so it can be here as well with red tie( Zero) black coat ( Kaname), white shirt( both) altough if you once again look at the picture which I posted with this new image:



we can see very clear Kaname's tie. I now that he is in the uniform, but usually the tie is covered by vest or jacket. So this is my opinion in this let's say VERY DETAILED DISCUSSION
And I found another picture which can reconcile both sides:


Let's say Yuuki is to lucky to can have them both.

ambi9942* wrote: juliet there is also another picture with an unidentified hand is reaching for yuki and shes reaching for it to but the problem with this picture is that kaname is with her
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/vampire-knight/images/7038531/title/vampire-knight-photo
here is a link for the picture! if the hand is kaname than whos hand do you think this is????

that's Yuuki hand look closer it's her reflection in a mirror and also look closer at her hand the is some thing on it

im looking for a cover , can you guys help me ?
its the cover when yuuki is wearing something like a hood
with roses on it .. and kaname is with her looking sad
and the picture is burning
can you please give it to me if you have it ?