roronoa-zoro wrote:
I think both fandoms are guilty of making biased comments...I, for instance never wanted Kaname dead and I'm a Zeki, so your comment is quite a generalization...it's unfair to say that every Zeki want Kaname dead. Some Yume aren't better since they keep repeating Zero will fall into level-E, level-E = death, is it any better?It's like you want him dead in the end. Or the ones who want to pair Zero up with any females who come across his path (even when they have nothing in common). It seems that Zero is also an obstacle to Yume since some would find any tiny things to get Zero out of the picture...Every fandom is the same, as long as the LT is not resolved, we will feel threatened by the opposite camp , nothing wrong in that, debates should be fun, Kaname and Zero are fictional characters after all, they won't feel hurt by our words but real people will and that's why we should never belittle others opinions... disagreeing with them, yes but attacking a group, no.
Concerning Zeki's reasoning becoming old, it's the same for Yume..."Zero hates Yuuki, they can't be together", I thought with this chapter it would be clear to any fans that he doesn't hate her completely since he stated "I've never thought that she had betrayed me", moreover he helped her several times during this second arc, it's quite an ironic behaviour coming from someone who is supposed to hate her, even promised to kill her in the future, don't you think so?... in the end, he wasn't serious, he was just hurt, hence his harsh words. Same for Kaname, he is not Yuuki's brother, he is the ancestor, hope that more and more people will come to understand this point because when some Zeki post childish comments such as "Kaname is Yuuki's brother, it's gross, incest yuck", frankly speaking, it brings a bad reputation to the whole group. Same goes for Yume of course "Zero is emo, get over your hatred already, he will kill her for sure"...
As for Kaname's reaction, I don't know for sure, Kaname is quite unpredictable...don't think he would be that happy but he might accept it if it's for Yuuki's sake. I'm sure he wants the best for her so he would respect whatever choices she may make or at least I think so.
i did not mean it generally but if i have struck a chord then it probably has an effect to the ones who claim they are not doing this.
anyway. reasoning based on zero falling to level E is backed by reasoning that can at least be scrutinized, while kaname dying is just soo entirely opinionated, to the ones that I've read so far... it was the same with Kaname imposing the shoes and clothes for her, it was opinionated but somehow some fans treat it like its factual, even when the real meaning says otherwise or it was obvious it was not the case, a ZEKI eventually just continues to dig and dig back for this irrelevant piece of information time to time and bring it out as if it were some important unfolding of history happening in vampire knight, when it just concerns the LT. Most ZEKI fans often bash Kaname because of his relation to the LT. "Kaname is such a monster he left Yuki, Yuki should go to zero" blablabla... his relation to the plot, which is huge, is often ignored because of this or seen in negativity because of his role in the ZEKI LT.
Most fans like myself see this an utter annoyance, a hindrance to completely enjoy the story, and this annoyance is caused for another annoyance to be caused.
This is why I said the intentions are just too obvious and it feels like some of you are running out of excuses to hate Kaname so you just recycle and reuse the same gig you previously paraded before on him. It even feels like a campaign of some sort,
"Spread
Our Truth! Kaname is Evil and Bad and He's Deceiving Everyone! Anyone who doesn't see this light are being Deceived"
Really I find such attempts quite delusional/alarming, though I'm not saying all ZEKIs share this, just some
as for Kaname dying, it is not even kaname's personality to be sacrificial, IMO. Saying "Zero will become a level E because I have a feeling it will be so. Poor Zero!" Is different from "Zero will be level E based on the Possible Signs"
can you see the difference there? I hardly see anyone just saying Zero will be level E
just because I said so.
ZEKI fans, some of them, are often seen bashing Kaname for his role in the LT rather than participating in the discussion of the story, I know not all of you, and I know some who are mature and starting to join discussion, what I'm referring to here are the ones who don't. most of the time, fanshipping activities are wasted on Kaname-bash than fanshipping Zero-Yuki.
Overall this created my impression. I don't think generalization applies, but it does for the guilty, I know not all feel the same and just a small portion do. I don't believe both fandoms are guilty, but to a certain extent those who fight back are also guilty, but then again its a free country and if someone throws back a rock someone is bound to throw another rock in response
the constant opposition is enjoyable, I never said it wasn't. The antagonistic attitudes and point of views is sometimes a challenge to undertake. It is only this moments where the entire act of debate doesn't seem worthy because it has become too repetitive, or phony.
by The Chrysalis Whispers Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:05 pm
:roll: :roll: :roll: 
:afro: 
I will give her a killer spank, with a baseball bat 
if you have in mind another weapon, I am open to ideas
Though Kaname did not seem like he directly meant it when he asked her to kill him (Yuki said he was not taking her seriously) I think he's serious... Yuki became his life after living for so long and experience much pain, she became his reason for existence. Finding the rest of his life can only exist when Yuki is beside him I feel like it says a lot how Kaname loves her, as if Yuki's existence made him live again literally. I love that he's saying how he feels and how he feels if she would be gone, 
i know, sorry)
you don't have to hide though LOL because trust me that's not working around here 
)
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