Looks like we took those pages in defrent ways, with the way I took it when a vampire choses his prey it means some one they want to feed on, I think we can both agree zero does not want to feed on sara.As for zero talking about his humanity, he could easily be talking about the desire he has to kill the p-blood, he devoted himself to that entirely and zero is simply blaming it on the vampire side.
If I insist in this, is because this is the way is portrayed; Zero describes viewing Sara as his prey, Kaito scolds him about this…Zero admits that it is too late for that; “That feeling, so similar to a blood impulse is something that can only be understood by a vampire”.
Not a hunter, a vampire…what feeling?
The one he mentions above... “Finally I would be able to have my prey, the anticipation of the pleasure it would be…the delight of that idea actually sends shivers, through my body, that was undeniably me.”
So is that a hunter instinct?
No, that’s a vampire instinct that he is talking about and to his condition (lol) he is a vampire, is quite normal. It seems that vampires in general (like the ones at the ball, coming from the lower ranks and some humans also), do consider, as you also said (and some humans) the purebloods, as a luxurious treat due to the thickness, the quality and the superior properties of their blood. Since Zero is a level-d vampire and since we see that he has become quite strong (so he must need a lot of energy) why should he be an exception to the rule?
Kaito disssaproves of Zero’s face and scolds him, “I do not want to see that face again…the face of a vampire that lost his meal
”…but Kaito profoundly fails to understand that Zero is a vampire (not a human like Kaito). Zero’s answers to that is that is too late to speak of differences. So isn’t all this dialogue a proof that Zero is becoming more of a vampire (thinking and blood lusting as one?)
he just wants to kill them. Using the word prey applys to both these as well. The word prey is just to describe the target, however the results are what I am trying to say are defrent here. On 1 group the result is the blood of the prey, on the other group the result is the life of the prey.
Zero combines the two traits together. Hunter+Vampire=Kill+Prey, it is quite logical if you think his dual nature that such a result would satisfy both of his sides.
As a hunter, Zero controls his hate “asking for a legal excuse”, as a vampire Zero resists his urges with consumption of tablets and exercising his hunting traits. So he acts reasonable in both cases. But whereas his hunter side is under control, it is his vampirish side that makes us wonder if and for how long he will be capable to suppress.
Solace here made a very good point;
As Kaname said his blood would “make the shadows of insanity grow farther”
also, Kaname said something about the “interval between the Hunger”.
Assuming Zero wasn’t stabilized by Shizuka’s blood by proxy, then his Hunger was growing shorter in the first arc, so Kaname gave him his blood to make it longer. Plus Zero bit Yuki before leaving her, her Kuran blood also served the same purpose as Kaname’s, so the “interval” probably lengthen to last him a year.
Now I think that interval is growing shorter again, and I believe he will need Kuran blood soon or he’ll be having more hunger fits.
I will agree with her and I will also add Mariangies comment in here:
During the second arc there are several times Zero is losing his control . Showing signs of becoming less human . The last obvious one was the time Zero was hunting a vampire that took a little girl . When the girl was hurt and bleed , Zero lost control for a while . Letting escape the vampire . Maybe even trying to attack the little girl ( this part I'm only speculating ) and Kaito having to recue the girl from Zero to avoid him attacking her . Others have being posted here by other members .
Now isn’t that the picture of a vampire that tries to resists his blood cravings? And his vampire side intensifies that much that becomes a trouble in his hunter job?
I don't get what Zero seeing vampires as his prey as to do with his level E.
They are separated. One thing is that he is a vampire (Level D) and another thing is that he may fall to level-e. But the question is since Zero’s vampirish side is becoming more and more powerful (mentioned of the incidents above that the girls showed), Zero may lose the control of the beast inside him.
A picture of the beast as Nina pinpointed;
Zero’s “shadow” as a monster when his “unique nature” was fully awaked after he devoured his brother’s fragments and Kaname’s blood!
The incident with a girl (where he lost the control of the situation) can be considered an indication of his fight with that part of himself (when the blood lust occurs). If he can not handle it, if his vampire side becomes more dominant and stronger than what he can handle, he may fall to level-e. I hope that explains the main idea of this…
Is there anyway to spoilerise those images, put them behind a cut or just link to those, they make for hard to read posts.
Yes sorry, too lazy, I shall keep it in mind..for the next posts…
Its Shizuka who says that Zero needs his master's blood to prevent him from falling to level E and after she dies, its the prez of the hunters who says that kuran's blood might be a good alternative without knowing that he drank Shizuka's blood.
Also thanks here for the mention and Solace for the scan provided (I was lost through all these pages).
This is exactly what I was thinking.... it is possible that Zero is indeed getting stronger, “more vampire” in a sense, hence his efforts to control his bloodlust also increases. WHY does he need to control it anyway?
If Zero is stabilized from the Shizuka blood he received by proxy, shouldn’t this show? So why is it that even he himself doubts this, perhaps he can feel inside him that he’s not yet stable? Zero’s hatred for pbs or Zero’s hunger for Yuki’s blood seems rather a vague justification why he is STILL having those effects to the horses in the stables even without a trigger to accompany it, or why he looks like he is struggling to keep something in, or why he would need large amounts of blood tablets to keep him calm.
Apparently he is not that stabilized as I at least thought in the first place, there are ups and downs, there is his effort to control his bloodlust and his desire to prey upon. He is struggling it.
Good point.... lol what kind of pureblood kidnaps human toddlers I wonder, and what for? And did Zero report this to the hunter’s association so they can look into it deeper? It should be enough to be report-able, since 2 incidents like this already happened and it is UNUSUAL.. And also you remember Zero’s target vampire who kidnapped the girl toddler, he seemed to recognize Yuki.
could it be he saw her before? And why does he say “in a place like this”? probably he wasn’t expecting to see a pureblood like Yuki in a hunter’s bar.. but I wonder where he saw her?
So it would not be rare for a Level E to seek small child as their victims . Not only their blood is tasty for them , also they are easier to get ; than finding their true love or getting to drink from a pureblood.. But maybe there is another reason for the rampage vampires trying to capture little kids . An unknown pureblood could be behind it ( Maybe Touma's sister ????????? )
@Solace we share the same questions, these two vampires were already at the list of the hunter’s, so Zero was under a task at that moment.
@Mariangie you are right..toddlers are a nice meal (LOL) for them, certainly but notice also that Zero is seeking for a master because profoundly the level-e (four in total until now that we have seen he was persecuting) did not become level-e on their own. You could blame anyone for this but the thing is that the three first denied to reveal their master…so that means that he/she is alive. Not a pureblood that has descended, but one alive they protect with their silence. Now about the toddlers, it’s hard to say if the vampires kidnapped them for their use, the word “kidnapped” has the meaning that they were transferred elsewhere. We shall see, perhaps Zero has more aces to his sleeves than what we know about this investigation.
if I understood correctly you believe (Juliet, sweetsolace & mariangie lol), that is possible Zero growing stronger in powers terms while synchronously experiencing symptoms of level-e transformation!? Mmm it could be since the clues about his condition are sort of controversial … As I said Zero is a “case study” … nobody seems to know how he’ll develop … how the 3 natures inside him (human, hunter, vampire) will combine and how or if the hunter nature can affect positive or negative his vampirism and vice versa.
Yes the idea is (that first Solace threw and I adopted LOL) that the stronger the vampire in Zero will become, the more dominant, the more trouble Zero will have pushing or keeping control this nature, because apparently he is a level-d, he balances between hunger and control and the thing that remains to see is how he is going to resist to his vampire urges.
I think you all might put a little too much weight to these words anyway when you're at the mercy of the translators whims. I was curious and in my book, Kaname doesn't use the word prey at all, though in the scanlation he does. In the book, he calls them "bait" and they can use it against the vampires and says "[they] are far more fascinating than any human children or even their own beloved partners..." fascinating? really? the translation baffles me.
What book is that? I do not have vol.12 so if you could supply the exact lines, it could be helpful. With all that said by Zero himself and Kaito, I think that there is no doubt, or space for a mistake done, even if exempt Kaname’s words. If you look at the scans at the ball, how the vampires view Yuuki, the picture talk by themself.
Butthat idea is also common in Vampire Knight..see Yuuri and Haruka keeping Yuuki's presence as secret ect.
Again this is not an exaggeration but an observation; Zero is a vampire, isn’t that a natural vampire need as it is presented? The debate here is for how long he will be able to control it and at what degree it has already started to affect him?
And what about the tattoo, the bracelet that the girls mentioned? are there for decorative reasons?
Then the next logical question to assume is that isn't Yuuki the profoundly number one prey for Zero?
1. She is a pureblood... (vampires lust for pureblood's blood)
2. He is supposed to be in love with her. (his thirst can only be satisfied through her)
And the only real excuse that he could have to prey upon her ( excluding the scenario where Zeki happens), it would be for him to lost control over his insticts (as his vampire side gets stronger). What could be a relief for him at the future? I wonder...